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Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.

🚨BREAKING: Trump just told reporters on Air Force One that he called off the attacks at Iran because a deal on the Strait of Hormuz is "eminent" and "ultimately the denuclearization"

​Minutes later, Iran's IRGC launched an anti-ship cruise missile at a US-backed oil tanker.… pic.twitter.com/pKd8aYrKBQ

— CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) August 2, 2026

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What would President AOC do with Iran?

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I strongly suspect, not invade it in the first place which oddly is exactly the way Trump said he'd handle it too until he reversed course and started taking orders from Bibi for some reason.

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Do you have any proof your President Trump is "taking order from Bibi"?

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The burden is on Trump to explain what the **** he's doing in Iran, not on the rest of us to intuit it in a total information vacuum.

He's explained nothing. He's sought no approval from Congress. He's articulated no clear strategy. He's got no clear way out.

All that's 100% on him.

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So…no, you don't. You're just talking out of your * again. Got it.

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Fine. Since we're playing semantic games, we'll call it "doing favors for Bibi" rather than "taking orders from Bibi." Does that distinction really make any of us feel any better?

Hillary Clinton and others have said that Bibi has been asking the US to do exactly this for years, but nobody was stupid enough to do it until Trump was in office.

Bibi asked, and Trump thought it would be fun, or thought it would help his legacy somehow, or something.

None of us know exactly why he was dumb enough to do it, but it's totally clear at this point that there was no sound reason, and that he has no good way out.

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Hillary?! Haha, come on man.

How has your life changed from when Biden was President to now? Seems pretty similar to me?

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LOL

That's weak sauce and you know it.

Unfortunately for you and Republicans in the midterms, Presidents are judged on macro and national outcomes, not on one American's anecdotal daily routine.

Economic growth
GDP
Employment
Wage growth
Debt/deficit
Foreign policy outcomes
National reputation and security

And there's also the counterfactual problem. It's not "how has my life changed" it's "how would any or all of us be in a better position with more serious, competent leadership and policies in place?"

But you know this already and are just deflecting for fun.

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My life hasn't really changed and it sounds like your hasn't either.

Maybe I just chose to be happy and you chose to be unhappy?

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LOLOL

Your gaslighting is sublime.

When you object to your President AOC starting new wars, grifting at unprecedented levels, covering for pedophiles, trying to overthrow a free and fair and secure election, talking like a senile lunatic, imposing illegal tariffs that stall the economy, getting flagged for money laundering, overseeing gestapo police squads roaming our streets and violating our constitutional rights, or any of the other illegal, unethical, or ridiculous **** Trump does on the daily, I'm going to remind you that if you were just happier, you'd have no issue at all with the mountain of malfeasance that you're watching transpire.

"Just choose happiness, Gulf!"

LOLOLOL

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What a bunch of nonsense. If you need someone to talk to PM me before you do anything crazy.

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Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.

🚨BREAKING: Trump just told reporters on Air Force One that he called off the attacks at Iran because a deal on the Strait of Hormuz is "eminent" and "ultimately the denuclearization"

​Minutes later, Iran's IRGC launched an anti-ship cruise missile at a US-backed oil tanker.… pic.twitter.com/pKd8aYrKBQ

— CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) August 2, 2026

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What would President AOC do with Iran?

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I strongly suspect, not invade it in the first place which oddly is exactly the way Trump said he'd handle it too until he reversed course and started taking orders from Bibi for some reason.

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Do you have any proof your President Trump is "taking order from Bibi"?

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he no taking orders from anyone. He just has no strategy

I have never seen a president so eager to announce to the world that he has been fooled by the other negotiating party, over and over again. pic.twitter.com/j3J4qfGkvX

— Jim Geraghty (@jimgeraghty) August 3, 2026

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He's probably just waiting on your expertise in foreign policy. Email him ASAP.

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he wouldn't like my plan, it would involve winning

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Are we not winning now? If we left today it would take Iran a decade to become the menace they were just a couple months ago.

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we are in fact not winning at the moment. Wish we were but we aren't committed. Can't win if you're not committed to winning.

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With your vast knowledge of warfare and tactics, where are we losing on the battlefield?

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we are allowing Iran to attack military bases and tankers in the strait, why?

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"Attack bases"? Most of their junk is shot out of the sky and the ones that get through are IDF just hoping to hit something…not a very well planned "attack".

Were you under the impression Iran would not attempt to inflict harm in a shooting conflict?

Will someone please talk to eljefe

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Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.

🚨BREAKING: Trump just told reporters on Air Force One that he called off the attacks at Iran because a deal on the Strait of Hormuz is "eminent" and "ultimately the denuclearization"

​Minutes later, Iran's IRGC launched an anti-ship cruise missile at a US-backed oil tanker.… pic.twitter.com/pKd8aYrKBQ

— CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) August 2, 2026

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What would President AOC do with Iran?

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My guess is she would send them a pallet of cash in the middle of the night then look the other way as they [wink] don't build a nuclear weapon.

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So Trump's exact peace plan? Expect Trump wanted to send 500 pallets of cash for the same result.

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What exactly are you talking about?

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I'm sure it's confusing given how many times Trump has already declared victory.

You really don't remember the big "deal" announcement a while back where Iran's leaders were suddenly "very smart" and would be handed ALL of their frozen assets and Trump really didn't care about going after the nuclear material after all? Pretty sure the deal was called the You Can Have Whatever You Want I Don't Care Just Make This Go Away Before The Midterms Accords.

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I'm still not seeing the "500 pallets of cash" you were saying? Did I miss something or were you just talking out of your * ?

🚨 Cuba, Venezuela & China Were Working Together - And U.S. Officials Were Compromised.

Appearing on @DrDrew, @EmeraldRobinson claimed the Trump administration is investigating what she described as years of coordinated influence involving China, Cuba, and Venezuela.

According… pic.twitter.com/mXFCLkGKwz

— LindellTV (@RealLindellTV) August 3, 2026

Trump on Platner: “Can you imagine if the Republicans had him?” “There's never been a guy like that that's run for office.”

Trump on Max Miller: “He’s a good person…it’s accusations.”

The double standard is glaring. https://t.co/5bRtBm5mVW

— Kristy Greenberg (@KGreenberg_) August 3, 2026

This coming from an adjudicated rapist

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Leave it to a total X rando foreigner to coin the best phrase I've ever heard to describe this era of stunted and pathetic American leadership.

"Vortex of absolute nonsense" is 10/10 no notes.

Honestly, as a non American living outside of the US...how on earth can any sane person tolerate this constant vortex of absolute nonsense from their "leader"? He can't be real? Are you all "You're on Candid Camera" the rest of the globe? It's not funny.

— Nikki (@NikkigGauthier) August 3, 2026

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Liberal white women are the easiest to manipulate and they have all but destroyed Western Europe with suicidal empathy and political correctness.

Respectfully, you seem to get one side of the story and take it as the gospel and I understand you want to promote this "everyone hates Trump just like I do" but it's not true. Most of the Portuguese people I associate with like Trump and want a strong leader for their country.

#Sieve doesn't understand that there is a new Republican electorate. The old NEOCON Bush/Cheney Republican leadership is being pushed out. Conway is certainly one of them, and no friend of American sovereigns. The only NEOCON RINOs winning in the R primary this year are a result of stolen primaries. The 2026 midterms will be 'paused' as the election fraud/integrity problem is ironed out. Voter rolls, etc issues to receive attention, military style.

Truth or another Conspiracy Theory?
What say the CCP's resident #BlindMice?

SHOCKING IRS BOMBSHELL! The 16th Amendment Was NEVER RATIFIED – Income Tax Is a SCAM! $330 TRILLION STOLEN!

For over a CENTURY, we’ve been ENSLAVED by a LIE! The IRS has STOLEN every dollar you’ve ever paid in income tax—based on a FRAUDULENT amendment that was NEVER legally… pic.twitter.com/KvjZcWVnzy

— Whiplash437 (@MrWhiplash_) August 4, 2026

Trump is running a live command test across the entire Iran machine…

MBS asked him to hold the massive strike… Trump opened space for a deal… IRGC media rejected the terms… Hormuz was hit… the Houthis struck Najran…

The Iranian delegation does not run Iran… it works the… https://t.co/fJSKMz0TZB pic.twitter.com/8W8vQS3XTt

— Observing Consciousness (@holonabove) August 4, 2026

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Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.

🚨BREAKING: Trump just told reporters on Air Force One that he called off the attacks at Iran because a deal on the Strait of Hormuz is "eminent" and "ultimately the denuclearization"

​Minutes later, Iran's IRGC launched an anti-ship cruise missile at a US-backed oil tanker.… pic.twitter.com/pKd8aYrKBQ

— CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) August 2, 2026

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What would President AOC do with Iran?

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My guess is she would send them a pallet of cash in the middle of the night then look the other way as they [wink] don't build a nuclear weapon.

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So Trump's exact peace plan? Expect Trump wanted to send 500 pallets of cash for the same result.

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What exactly are you talking about?

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I'm sure it's confusing given how many times Trump has already declared victory.

You really don't remember the big "deal" announcement a while back where Iran's leaders were suddenly "very smart" and would be handed ALL of their frozen assets and Trump really didn't care about going after the nuclear material after all? Pretty sure the deal was called the You Can Have Whatever You Want I Don't Care Just Make This Go Away Before The Midterms Accords.

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I'm still not seeing the "500 pallets of cash" you were saying? Did I miss something or were you just talking out of your * ?

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Obama's Iran deal handed them $1.7 billion dollars. Trump's deal, which was written down and seen by everyone's eyeballs, planned to hand Iran $300 BILLION DOLLARS.

So if $1.7 billion dollars is a "pallet of cash", then you're right, Trump only wanted to hand them 177 pallets of cash. My mistake.

The ridicule and mocking that went on here when I first posted about the existence of DEW's, it wasn't merely my suggesting their use in Lahaina.

AM 45:47
😎⚡️🔥

Just to add, remember a few years ago when you posted about DEW's how they came at you with "fact-checking" and all sorts of internet "experts" called you a conspiracy theorist?
Well, Trump ended that too.
You were right 🫵😎
Again. https://t.co/2uX0Ediz9j

— Autist The 17th (@AutistDivision) August 4, 2026

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Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.

🚨BREAKING: Trump just told reporters on Air Force One that he called off the attacks at Iran because a deal on the Strait of Hormuz is "eminent" and "ultimately the denuclearization"

​Minutes later, Iran's IRGC launched an anti-ship cruise missile at a US-backed oil tanker.… pic.twitter.com/pKd8aYrKBQ

— CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) August 2, 2026

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What would President AOC do with Iran?

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My guess is she would send them a pallet of cash in the middle of the night then look the other way as they [wink] don't build a nuclear weapon.

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So Trump's exact peace plan? Expect Trump wanted to send 500 pallets of cash for the same result.

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What exactly are you talking about?

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I'm sure it's confusing given how many times Trump has already declared victory.

You really don't remember the big "deal" announcement a while back where Iran's leaders were suddenly "very smart" and would be handed ALL of their frozen assets and Trump really didn't care about going after the nuclear material after all? Pretty sure the deal was called the You Can Have Whatever You Want I Don't Care Just Make This Go Away Before The Midterms Accords.

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I'm still not seeing the "500 pallets of cash" you were saying? Did I miss something or were you just talking out of your * ?

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Obama's Iran deal handed them $1.7 billion dollars. Trump's deal, which was written down and seen by everyone's eyeballs, planned to hand Iran $300 BILLION DOLLARS.

So if $1.7 billion dollars is a "pallet of cash", then you're right, Trump only wanted to hand them 177 pallets of cash. My mistake.

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The Art of War and it might also be called a form of #devolution. But carry on, you're fun to watch.

Hey cool! Trump is now demanding that Iran negotiate with Oman a new system for them both to toll the Strait of Hormuz. You know, the strait that was free international waters before Trump's stupidity.

In other words, Iran and Oman were already carving up the strait whether we like it or not, so just before the deal is done Trump is now "demanding" that it happen so he can keep pretending he's in charge. Pathetic.

This is what a total strategic defeat looks like.

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Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.

🚨BREAKING: Trump just told reporters on Air Force One that he called off the attacks at Iran because a deal on the Strait of Hormuz is "eminent" and "ultimately the denuclearization"

​Minutes later, Iran's IRGC launched an anti-ship cruise missile at a US-backed oil tanker.… pic.twitter.com/pKd8aYrKBQ

— CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) August 2, 2026

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What would President AOC do with Iran?

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My guess is she would send them a pallet of cash in the middle of the night then look the other way as they [wink] don't build a nuclear weapon.

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So Trump's exact peace plan? Expect Trump wanted to send 500 pallets of cash for the same result.

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What exactly are you talking about?

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I'm sure it's confusing given how many times Trump has already declared victory.

You really don't remember the big "deal" announcement a while back where Iran's leaders were suddenly "very smart" and would be handed ALL of their frozen assets and Trump really didn't care about going after the nuclear material after all? Pretty sure the deal was called the You Can Have Whatever You Want I Don't Care Just Make This Go Away Before The Midterms Accords.

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I'm still not seeing the "500 pallets of cash" you were saying? Did I miss something or were you just talking out of your * ?

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Obama's Iran deal handed them $1.7 billion dollars. Trump's deal, which was written down and seen by everyone's eyeballs, planned to hand Iran $300 BILLION DOLLARS.

So if $1.7 billion dollars is a "pallet of cash", then you're right, Trump only wanted to hand them 177 pallets of cash. My mistake.

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Are you confused with the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) nations effort to rebuild Iran and encourage a stable regional economic partnership?
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Iran $300bn linked funding expected from GCC, Brookings expert says

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202606181864

Suzanne Maloney, Vice President and Director of Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution, said on Thursday that the $300 billion linked to the US-Iran agreement would come from Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) states, adding that sanctions waivers would be granted if they help ensure regional stability.

The $300b is coming from the GCC. They'll get the waivers they need as long as that helps ensure they don't have drones through the windows of luxury hotels. https://t.co/6d3fspoat7
Suzanne Maloney (@MaloneySuzanne) June 18, 2026
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Iran deal includes $300 billion fund, more than half of which already committed

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/iran-deal-includes-300-billion-fund-more-than-half-which-already-committed-2026-06-16/
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The new fund is a private investment vehicle, not a reconstruction or reparations programme and will not include any government money or grants, the source said, adding that companies based in the U.S., the Gulf Arab states, Asia, South America and Africa have agreed to commit financing.
Investments pledged span energy, logistics, manufacturing and transport, the source said.
U.S. President Donald Trump pushed back on Wednesday against any characterisation of the fund as a U.S. investment. "We're not investing, we're not putting up 10 cents," he said, adding that he was not asking Gulf countries to invest either.

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All of this is based on extensive stipulations that Iran is currently not meeting.

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Hey cool! Trump is now demanding that Iran negotiate with Oman a new system for them both to toll the Strait of Hormuz. You know, the strait that was free international waters before Trump's stupidity.

In other words, Iran and Oman were already carving up the strait whether we like it or not, so just before the deal is done Trump is now "demanding" that it happen so he can keep pretending he's in charge. Pathetic.

This is what a total strategic defeat looks like.

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Brother, take your medication. You are not having a good day.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/03/us/politics/strait-of-hormuz-possible-reopening-deal.html
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Iranian officials say that while there will be no tolls charged the agreement includes a "service fee" to cover the environmental impact of the shipping, security for the cargo ships and tankers, and staffing. Revenues would be divided equally between Iran and Oman, two Iranian officials said.

But a U.S. official familiar with the negotiations said on Monday that the Iranian account was "not accurate," and said that any "temporary" routes established through the strait would not involve approvals or permissions by Iran, and would involve no tolls.
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Hey cool! Trump is now demanding that Iran negotiate with Oman a new system for them both to toll the Strait of Hormuz. You know, the strait that was free international waters before Trump's stupidity.

In other words, Iran and Oman were already carving up the strait whether we like it or not, so just before the deal is done Trump is now "demanding" that it happen so he can keep pretending he's in charge. Pathetic.

This is what a total strategic defeat looks like.

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Strong leadership!

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Leave it to a total X rando foreigner to coin the best phrase I've ever heard to describe this era of stunted and pathetic American leadership.

"Vortex of absolute nonsense" is 10/10 no notes.

Honestly, as a non American living outside of the US...how on earth can any sane person tolerate this constant vortex of absolute nonsense from their "leader"? He can't be real? Are you all "You're on Candid Camera" the rest of the globe? It's not funny.

— Nikki (@NikkigGauthier) August 3, 2026

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Liberal white women are the easiest to manipulate and they have all but destroyed Western Europe with suicidal empathy and political correctness.

Respectfully, you seem to get one side of the story and take it as the gospel and I understand you want to promote this "everyone hates Trump just like I do" but it's not true. Most of the Portuguese people I associate with like Trump and want a strong leader for their country.

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Sure. "Most of the Portugese people" you know must be right-wing populists, because Trump is even less popular in Europe than he is here.



Bombast is not strength. Grievance is not strength. Tariffing and threatening our allies is not strength.

Most recently, this Iran affair is the opposite of strong leadership. It's pathetic. And Portuguese or people anywhere else certainly aren't responding to Trump's assaults on democracy, corruption, senility, sex assaults, covering for Epstein, or anything else with approval.

And if any select Europeans respond positively to Trump, it is either solely on the basis of border security, or unthinking. There is no other conclusion, because no comprehensive, thoughtful, halfway objective analysis of Trump's leadership for his six years as president lands on "Strong leader, full stop."

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Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.

🚨BREAKING: Trump just told reporters on Air Force One that he called off the attacks at Iran because a deal on the Strait of Hormuz is "eminent" and "ultimately the denuclearization"

​Minutes later, Iran's IRGC launched an anti-ship cruise missile at a US-backed oil tanker.… pic.twitter.com/pKd8aYrKBQ

— CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) August 2, 2026

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What would President AOC do with Iran?

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My guess is she would send them a pallet of cash in the middle of the night then look the other way as they [wink] don't build a nuclear weapon.

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So Trump's exact peace plan? Expect Trump wanted to send 500 pallets of cash for the same result.

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What exactly are you talking about?

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I'm sure it's confusing given how many times Trump has already declared victory.

You really don't remember the big "deal" announcement a while back where Iran's leaders were suddenly "very smart" and would be handed ALL of their frozen assets and Trump really didn't care about going after the nuclear material after all? Pretty sure the deal was called the You Can Have Whatever You Want I Don't Care Just Make This Go Away Before The Midterms Accords.

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I'm still not seeing the "500 pallets of cash" you were saying? Did I miss something or were you just talking out of your * ?

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Obama's Iran deal handed them $1.7 billion dollars. Trump's deal, which was written down and seen by everyone's eyeballs, planned to hand Iran $300 BILLION DOLLARS.

So if $1.7 billion dollars is a "pallet of cash", then you're right, Trump only wanted to hand them 177 pallets of cash. My mistake.

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Are you confused with the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) nations effort to rebuild Iran and encourage a stable regional economic partnership?
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Iran $300bn linked funding expected from GCC, Brookings expert says

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202606181864

Suzanne Maloney, Vice President and Director of Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution, said on Thursday that the $300 billion linked to the US-Iran agreement would come from Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) states, adding that sanctions waivers would be granted if they help ensure regional stability.

The $300b is coming from the GCC. They'll get the waivers they need as long as that helps ensure they don't have drones through the windows of luxury hotels. https://t.co/6d3fspoat7
Suzanne Maloney (@MaloneySuzanne) June 18, 2026
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Iran deal includes $300 billion fund, more than half of which already committed

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/iran-deal-includes-300-billion-fund-more-than-half-which-already-committed-2026-06-16/
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The new fund is a private investment vehicle, not a reconstruction or reparations programme and will not include any government money or grants, the source said, adding that companies based in the U.S., the Gulf Arab states, Asia, South America and Africa have agreed to commit financing.
Investments pledged span energy, logistics, manufacturing and transport, the source said.
U.S. President Donald Trump pushed back on Wednesday against any characterisation of the fund as a U.S. investment. "We're not investing, we're not putting up 10 cents," he said, adding that he was not asking Gulf countries to invest either.

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Lol, ohhh, it was just a magical definitely not laundered $300 billion "fund" that would be used to rebuild Iran while they used their oil money and unfrozen assets (forgot about that, another $120 BILLION) to build drones and missiles. Of course it was very important to pretend that we weren't technically paying for it because that makes it ok.

If only you'd used some of your mental horsepower to similarly explain away Obama's paltry $1.7 billion we might not be in this quagmire right now.

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Hey cool! Trump is now demanding that Iran negotiate with Oman a new system for them both to toll the Strait of Hormuz. You know, the strait that was free international waters before Trump's stupidity.

In other words, Iran and Oman were already carving up the strait whether we like it or not, so just before the deal is done Trump is now "demanding" that it happen so he can keep pretending he's in charge. Pathetic.

This is what a total strategic defeat looks like.

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Brother, take your medication. You are not having a good day.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/03/us/politics/strait-of-hormuz-possible-reopening-deal.html
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Iranian officials say that while there will be no tolls charged the agreement includes a "service fee" to cover the environmental impact of the shipping, security for the cargo ships and tankers, and staffing. Revenues would be divided equally between Iran and Oman, two Iranian officials said.

But a U.S. official familiar with the negotiations said on Monday that the Iranian account was "not accurate," and said that any "temporary" routes established through the strait would not involve approvals or permissions by Iran, and would involve no tolls.
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Riiiiiiiiight... it's not a toll, it's a "service fee". And it's totally temporary!

Man, you will gobble up literally anything Trump feeds you.

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"Attack bases"? Most of their junk is shot out of the sky and the ones that get through are IDF just hoping to hit something…not a very well planned "attack".

Were you under the impression Iran would not attempt to inflict harm in a shooting conflict?

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Come on Gulf, you know Iran would "NEVER FIGHT BACK." They were just going to lay down their weapons they have collected over the last 47 years and put up neon signs for USA COME ON IN!!! How could the Germans "allow" us to storm Normandy and take back Europe? The premise is just so bad.

Who came up with that $300B number? With inflation, that's like double or triple what was spent rebuilding Europe in WWII. It doesn't add up