TRUMP 2024

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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.


What would President AOC do with Iran?
I strongly suspect, not invade it in the first place which oddly is exactly the way Trump said he'd handle it too until he reversed course and started taking orders from Bibi for some reason.


Do you have any proof your President Trump is "taking order from Bibi"?

The burden is on Trump to explain what the **** he's doing in Iran, not on the rest of us to intuit it in a total information vacuum.

He's explained nothing. He's sought no approval from Congress. He's articulated no clear strategy. He's got no clear way out.

All that's 100% on him.


So…no, you don't. You're just talking out of your * again. Got it.

Fine. Since we're playing semantic games, we'll call it "doing favors for Bibi" rather than "taking orders from Bibi." Does that distinction really make any of us feel any better?

Hillary Clinton and others have said that Bibi has been asking the US to do exactly this for years, but nobody was stupid enough to do it until Trump was in office.

Bibi asked, and Trump thought it would be fun, or thought it would help his legacy somehow, or something.

None of us know exactly why he was dumb enough to do it, but it's totally clear at this point that there was no sound reason, and that he has no good way out.



Hillary?! Haha, come on man.

How has your life changed from when Biden was President to now? Seems pretty similar to me?

LOL

That's weak sauce and you know it.

Unfortunately for you and Republicans in the midterms, Presidents are judged on macro and national outcomes, not on one American's anecdotal daily routine.

Economic growth
GDP
Employment
Wage growth
Debt/deficit
Foreign policy outcomes
National reputation and security

And there's also the counterfactual problem. It's not "how has my life changed" it's "how would any or all of us be in a better position with more serious, competent leadership and policies in place?"

But you know this already and are just deflecting for fun.


My life hasn't really changed and it sounds like your hasn't either.

Maybe I just chose to be happy and you chose to be unhappy?

LOLOL

Your gaslighting is sublime.

When you object to your President AOC starting new wars, grifting at unprecedented levels, covering for pedophiles, trying to overthrow a free and fair and secure election, talking like a senile lunatic, imposing illegal tariffs that stall the economy, getting flagged for money laundering, overseeing gestapo police squads roaming our streets and violating our constitutional rights, or any of the other illegal, unethical, or ridiculous **** Trump does on the daily, I'm going to remind you that if you were just happier, you'd have no issue at all with the mountain of malfeasance that you're watching transpire.

"Just choose happiness, Gulf!"

LOLOLOL


What a bunch of nonsense. If you need someone to talk to PM me before you do anything crazy.
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hokiewolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.


What would President AOC do with Iran?
I strongly suspect, not invade it in the first place which oddly is exactly the way Trump said he'd handle it too until he reversed course and started taking orders from Bibi for some reason.


Do you have any proof your President Trump is "taking order from Bibi"?
he no taking orders from anyone. He just has no strategy




He's probably just waiting on your expertise in foreign policy. Email him ASAP.
he wouldn't like my plan, it would involve winning


Are we not winning now? If we left today it would take Iran a decade to become the menace they were just a couple months ago.
we are in fact not winning at the moment. Wish we were but we aren't committed. Can't win if you're not committed to winning.


With your vast knowledge of warfare and tactics, where are we losing on the battlefield?
we are allowing Iran to attack military bases and tankers in the strait, why?


"Attack bases"? Most of their junk is shot out of the sky and the ones that get through are IDF just hoping to hit something…not a very well planned "attack".

Were you under the impression Iran would not attempt to inflict harm in a shooting conflict?
Gulfstream4
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Will someone please talk to eljefe
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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.


What would President AOC do with Iran?


My guess is she would send them a pallet of cash in the middle of the night then look the other way as they [wink] don't build a nuclear weapon.

So Trump's exact peace plan? Expect Trump wanted to send 500 pallets of cash for the same result.


What exactly are you talking about?

I'm sure it's confusing given how many times Trump has already declared victory.

You really don't remember the big "deal" announcement a while back where Iran's leaders were suddenly "very smart" and would be handed ALL of their frozen assets and Trump really didn't care about going after the nuclear material after all? Pretty sure the deal was called the You Can Have Whatever You Want I Don't Care Just Make This Go Away Before The Midterms Accords.




I'm still not seeing the "500 pallets of cash" you were saying? Did I miss something or were you just talking out of your * ?
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Gulfstream4 said:

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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Is President AOC defying Congress and letting a foreign leader pull her by the nose into a war in which she has no clear plan, no clear goal, which harms the country economically on a daily basis, and in which she has zero leverage to get out? And which all the while emboldens the enemy she impulsively invaded?

What an utter and total embarrassment.


What would President AOC do with Iran?
I strongly suspect, not invade it in the first place which oddly is exactly the way Trump said he'd handle it too until he reversed course and started taking orders from Bibi for some reason.


Do you have any proof your President Trump is "taking order from Bibi"?
he no taking orders from anyone. He just has no strategy




He's probably just waiting on your expertise in foreign policy. Email him ASAP.
he wouldn't like my plan, it would involve winning


Are we not winning now? If we left today it would take Iran a decade to become the menace they were just a couple months ago.
we are in fact not winning at the moment. Wish we were but we aren't committed. Can't win if you're not committed to winning.


With your vast knowledge of warfare and tactics, where are we losing on the battlefield?
we are allowing Iran to attack military bases and tankers in the strait, why?


"Attack bases"? Most of their junk is shot out of the sky and the ones that get through are IDF just hoping to hit something…not a very well planned "attack".

Were you under the impression Iran would not attempt to inflict harm in a shooting conflict?

yes, when the promise was "total surrender".
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