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In reply to hokiewolf • 2:17p, 7/19/26
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Oldsouljer said:
hokiewolf said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

and yet you stand by while this administration continues to implement socialist policies because?. Strange world we live in.

Well, when the choice seems to be between socialist evolution and socialist Revolution, I'll take the slower road.

I prefer neither

Nor do I. But it's the socialists deserving of you telling them to tamp down the rhetoric. The rest of us are merely stating the reality that the socialists are themselves openly saying.
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In reply to Oldsouljer • 2:22p, 7/19/26
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 3:01p, 7/19/26
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.


Oh I know. Communists have killed 100's of millions throughout world history and they are here again.
you're afraid of over educated trust fund kids and the later stage boomer generation? Let's tamp down the rhetoric


hokie, no disrespect but I have seen your type before. You mean well and want the best for everyone but you are also the type of guy that lets things get so bad THEN you come around with that befuddled look on your face while asking how did this happen?

Open your eyes and look at what these people are saying and doing at these rallies. They are literally telling you who they are and what they want to do. Wake up man, wake up.
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In reply to Civilized • 3:15p, 7/19/26
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.


I know it's difficult for you to form a coherent thought without thinking about your great President Trump but, for the love of God, try harder.

Old school democrat party (you) are aging out. Your party is slowly being taken over by radicals.

They are winning primaries in NY, Michigan, Colorado. They are defeating long time, old school democrats like you and they literally say they want to abolish borders, abolish prisons, abolish the police, abolish the U.S. Senate. The Mayor of Seattle. The mayor of NYC is one of these also. He literally said he "would not condemn globalize the intifada"…

These people are here to destroy the country and you are going to help them because you are too proud to say you were wrong.

PS: try to respond without using the word "Trump"….
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Mamdani ripped over record-high NYC rents with critics pointing to policy they say is fueling crisis

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mamdani-ripped-over-record-high-nyc-rents-critics-pointing-policy-say-fueling-crisis.amp
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"You declared yourself a sanctuary city. You 'welcomed' hundreds of thousands of illegals. Then you had to find places to put them,"
- - -

"New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani is facing renewed criticism over housing affordability as rents in Manhattan and Brooklyn hit record highs"
- - -

…"but something-something TrUMp"
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 4:41p, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.


I know it's difficult for you to form a coherent thought without thinking about your great President Trump but, for the love of God, try harder.

Old school democrat party (you) are aging out. Your party is slowly being taken over by radicals.

They are winning primaries in NY, Michigan, Colorado. They are defeating long time, old school democrats like you and they literally say they want to abolish borders, abolish prisons, abolish the police, abolish the U.S. Senate. The Mayor of Seattle. The mayor of NYC is one of these also. He literally said he "would not condemn globalize the intifada"…

These people are here to destroy the country and you are going to help them because you are too proud to say you were wrong.

PS: try to respond without using the word "Trump"….

You're raging against boogeymen, which is all you can do because the current administration and their policies are a total disaster, and Republicans are going to get crushed in November.

Meanwhile, Democratic socialists in small progressive pockets are winning elections based on affordability and access to services. Boo hoo. Terrifying.

Name the socialists that are taking over the left. There are over 250 US reps and senators and many thousands more at state and local levels. Surely you can call out these world-ending commies by name? Surely all this panic is due to them now making up a statistically significant portion of the left?

Tell me the scariest couple of things these radicals have implemented without using the word "socialist" or "communist".

Talk about actual policies and actual harms, not boogeymen.
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 4:45p, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.


I know it's difficult for you to form a coherent thought without thinking about your great President Trump but, for the love of God, try harder.

Old school democrat party (you) are aging out. Your party is slowly being taken over by radicals.

They are winning primaries in NY, Michigan, Colorado. They are defeating long time, old school democrats like you and they literally say they want to abolish borders, abolish prisons, abolish the police, abolish the U.S. Senate. The Mayor of Seattle. The mayor of NYC is one of these also. He literally said he "would not condemn globalize the intifada"…

These people are here to destroy the country and you are going to help them because you are too proud to say you were wrong.

PS: try to respond without using the word "Trump"….

Just in case you were unaware, denialists are almost always immune to reason.
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In reply to Civilized • 5:00p, 7/19/26
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.


I know it's difficult for you to form a coherent thought without thinking about your great President Trump but, for the love of God, try harder.

Old school democrat party (you) are aging out. Your party is slowly being taken over by radicals.

They are winning primaries in NY, Michigan, Colorado. They are defeating long time, old school democrats like you and they literally say they want to abolish borders, abolish prisons, abolish the police, abolish the U.S. Senate. The Mayor of Seattle. The mayor of NYC is one of these also. He literally said he "would not condemn globalize the intifada"…

These people are here to destroy the country and you are going to help them because you are too proud to say you were wrong.

PS: try to respond without using the word "Trump"….

You're raging against boogeymen, which is all you can do because the current administration and their policies are a total disaster, and Republicans are going to get crushed in November.

Meanwhile, Democratic socialists in small progressive pockets are winning elections based on affordability and access to services. Boo hoo. Terrifying.

Name the socialists that are taking over the left. There are over 250 US reps and senators and many thousands more at state and local levels. Surely you can call out these world-ending commies by name? Surely all this panic is due to them now making up a statistically significant portion of the left?

Tell me the scariest couple of things these radicals have implemented without using the word "socialist" or "communist".

Talk about actual policies and actual harms, not boogeymen.


Well I'll give you a C+. You didn't use the word Trump, just this administration…that's a little bit of progress.

These radicals are winning on radical issues. A few of them will win a seat at the table and you'll then dismiss that too. Again, abolishing ICE, police, borders, jails, the U.S. Senate…they literally say this to their voters. These are just a few of the scariest things these people would do if given power.

You are a dying breed, Civ. Your party left you and you are too stubborn to see it.


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In reply to Oldsouljer • 5:03p, 7/19/26
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.


I know it's difficult for you to form a coherent thought without thinking about your great President Trump but, for the love of God, try harder.

Old school democrat party (you) are aging out. Your party is slowly being taken over by radicals.

They are winning primaries in NY, Michigan, Colorado. They are defeating long time, old school democrats like you and they literally say they want to abolish borders, abolish prisons, abolish the police, abolish the U.S. Senate. The Mayor of Seattle. The mayor of NYC is one of these also. He literally said he "would not condemn globalize the intifada"…

These people are here to destroy the country and you are going to help them because you are too proud to say you were wrong.

PS: try to respond without using the word "Trump"….

Just in case you were unaware, denialists are almost always immune to reason.


Pride is a powerful emotion. It's difficult to say I was wrong.

I don't know how old Civ is? There is a good chance reality sets in before he's gone but the damage will be done.
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 5:08p, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
Mamdani ripped over record-high NYC rents with critics pointing to policy they say is fueling crisis

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mamdani-ripped-over-record-high-nyc-rents-critics-pointing-policy-say-fueling-crisis.amp
- - -

"You declared yourself a sanctuary city. You 'welcomed' hundreds of thousands of illegals. Then you had to find places to put them,"
- - -

"New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani is facing renewed criticism over housing affordability as rents in Manhattan and Brooklyn hit record highs"
- - -

…"but something-something TrUMp"


To be fair, this is the "Trump 2024" thread. I don't know why you're so shocked he keeps being brought up here…

Mamdani was able to freeze rent-stabilized apartments, the ones he has some control over… he's also proposed expanding the city's capital investment in affordable housing, identified city-owned properties that could be redeveloped into residential housing, supported changes to zoning rules that would allow denser residential development in some areas, and proposed reducing delays in the permitting and approval process for qualifying housing projects, particularly affordable housing. But, as you know and choose to ignore, he's only been in office for several months, and these are in the early stages and some require approval from the City Council or New York State.

Meanwhile, since this is the Trump thread and not NYC, let's hear what he thinks about the 21st Century Road to Housing Act, a bipartisan bill that aims to tackle housing affordability:
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 5:21p, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.


I know it's difficult for you to form a coherent thought without thinking about your great President Trump but, for the love of God, try harder.

Old school democrat party (you) are aging out. Your party is slowly being taken over by radicals.

They are winning primaries in NY, Michigan, Colorado. They are defeating long time, old school democrats like you and they literally say they want to abolish borders, abolish prisons, abolish the police, abolish the U.S. Senate. The Mayor of Seattle. The mayor of NYC is one of these also. He literally said he "would not condemn globalize the intifada"…

These people are here to destroy the country and you are going to help them because you are too proud to say you were wrong.

PS: try to respond without using the word "Trump"….

Just in case you were unaware, denialists are almost always immune to reason.


Pride is a powerful emotion. It's difficult to say I was wrong.

I don't know how old Civ is? There is a good chance reality sets in before he's gone but the damage will be done.

I'm late 40's.

And again, no candidates are winning making any of these claims central to their campaign, or anything close, in the way you describe. Immigration reform isn't "open borders." Police reform and reduced incarceration isn't "abolish the police." Abolishing the Senate has zero widespread support.

My problem with all this is you mischaracterize these positions and then grossly overstate how much support they actually have and then mischaracterize the proportion of the left that are even running on milder versions of your doomsday policy positions.

The best example of this is Mamdani. He's the most famous and on the biggest stage. You can't name a single thing he's done that's unreasonable, much less scary.
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In reply to Civilized • 5:38p, 7/19/26
#Sieve doesn't seem his gentle self, LOL. We had hoped he could admit he has been wrong. Looks like he's going to fight to the death. :-) #Sieve, you'll enjoy the crow....it won't be dry, we can put some BBQ sauce on it. That is unless you choose the tar and feathers. What's your preference?

#Sieve, there is a mountain of evidencen being held back. Don't be in the last bunch of sheeple to wake up. You'll be grouped in with the Comunists my friend.....
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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In reply to Civilized • 6:06p, 7/19/26
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.


I know it's difficult for you to form a coherent thought without thinking about your great President Trump but, for the love of God, try harder.

Old school democrat party (you) are aging out. Your party is slowly being taken over by radicals.

They are winning primaries in NY, Michigan, Colorado. They are defeating long time, old school democrats like you and they literally say they want to abolish borders, abolish prisons, abolish the police, abolish the U.S. Senate. The Mayor of Seattle. The mayor of NYC is one of these also. He literally said he "would not condemn globalize the intifada"…

These people are here to destroy the country and you are going to help them because you are too proud to say you were wrong.

PS: try to respond without using the word "Trump"….

Just in case you were unaware, denialists are almost always immune to reason.


Pride is a powerful emotion. It's difficult to say I was wrong.

I don't know how old Civ is? There is a good chance reality sets in before he's gone but the damage will be done.

I'm late 40's.

And again, no candidates are winning making any of these claims central to their campaign, or anything close, in the way you describe. Immigration reform isn't "open borders." Police reform and reduced incarceration isn't "abolish the police." Abolishing the Senate has zero widespread support.

My problem with all this is you mischaracterize these positions and then grossly overstate how much support they actually have and then mischaracterize the proportion of the left that are even running on milder versions of your doomsday policy positions.

The best example of this is Mamdani. He's the most famous and on the biggest stage. You can't name a single thing he's done that's unreasonable, much less scary.


You don't think any of these radicals who have won primaries will get elected to the big show?
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In reply to eljefe444 • 6:07p, 7/19/26
eljefe444 said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Mamdani ripped over record-high NYC rents with critics pointing to policy they say is fueling crisis

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mamdani-ripped-over-record-high-nyc-rents-critics-pointing-policy-say-fueling-crisis.amp
- - -

"You declared yourself a sanctuary city. You 'welcomed' hundreds of thousands of illegals. Then you had to find places to put them,"
- - -

"New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani is facing renewed criticism over housing affordability as rents in Manhattan and Brooklyn hit record highs"
- - -

…"but something-something TrUMp"


To be fair, this is the "Trump 2024" thread. I don't know why you're so shocked he keeps being brought up here…

Mamdani was able to freeze rent-stabilized apartments, the ones he has some control over… he's also proposed expanding the city's capital investment in affordable housing, identified city-owned properties that could be redeveloped into residential housing, supported changes to zoning rules that would allow denser residential development in some areas, and proposed reducing delays in the permitting and approval process for qualifying housing projects, particularly affordable housing. But, as you know and choose to ignore, he's only been in office for several months, and these are in the early stages and some require approval from the City Council or New York State.

Meanwhile, since this is the Trump thread and not NYC, let's hear what he thinks about the 21st Century Road to Housing Act, a bipartisan bill that aims to tackle housing affordability:


Ahh yes waiter, I'll have a word salad and a sweet tea…
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 6:29p, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
eljefe444 said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Mamdani ripped over record-high NYC rents with critics pointing to policy they say is fueling crisis

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mamdani-ripped-over-record-high-nyc-rents-critics-pointing-policy-say-fueling-crisis.amp
- - -

"You declared yourself a sanctuary city. You 'welcomed' hundreds of thousands of illegals. Then you had to find places to put them,"
- - -

"New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani is facing renewed criticism over housing affordability as rents in Manhattan and Brooklyn hit record highs"
- - -

…"but something-something TrUMp"


To be fair, this is the "Trump 2024" thread. I don't know why you're so shocked he keeps being brought up here…

Mamdani was able to freeze rent-stabilized apartments, the ones he has some control over… he's also proposed expanding the city's capital investment in affordable housing, identified city-owned properties that could be redeveloped into residential housing, supported changes to zoning rules that would allow denser residential development in some areas, and proposed reducing delays in the permitting and approval process for qualifying housing projects, particularly affordable housing. But, as you know and choose to ignore, he's only been in office for several months, and these are in the early stages and some require approval from the City Council or New York State.

Meanwhile, since this is the Trump thread and not NYC, let's hear what he thinks about the 21st Century Road to Housing Act, a bipartisan bill that aims to tackle housing affordability:


Ahh yes waiter, I'll have a word salad and a sweet tea…


Apologies, didn't think you needed pictures to keep focus, like Dear Leader during a cabinet meeting

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-does-not-read-white-house-top-secret-intelligence-briefings-big-617515
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The blind mice would rather become subjects of the CCP then to admit they've been lied to, to admit that they've been duped once again, and to admit that Trump in the US military is saving their country and their freedoms for their white lily asses. #Pitiful, if not #Disgraceful
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 6:45p, 7/19/26
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Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.


I know it's difficult for you to form a coherent thought without thinking about your great President Trump but, for the love of God, try harder.

Old school democrat party (you) are aging out. Your party is slowly being taken over by radicals.

They are winning primaries in NY, Michigan, Colorado. They are defeating long time, old school democrats like you and they literally say they want to abolish borders, abolish prisons, abolish the police, abolish the U.S. Senate. The Mayor of Seattle. The mayor of NYC is one of these also. He literally said he "would not condemn globalize the intifada"…

These people are here to destroy the country and you are going to help them because you are too proud to say you were wrong.

PS: try to respond without using the word "Trump"….

Just in case you were unaware, denialists are almost always immune to reason.


Pride is a powerful emotion. It's difficult to say I was wrong.

I don't know how old Civ is? There is a good chance reality sets in before he's gone but the damage will be done.

I'm late 40's.

And again, no candidates are winning making any of these claims central to their campaign, or anything close, in the way you describe. Immigration reform isn't "open borders." Police reform and reduced incarceration isn't "abolish the police." Abolishing the Senate has zero widespread support.

My problem with all this is you mischaracterize these positions and then grossly overstate how much support they actually have and then mischaracterize the proportion of the left that are even running on milder versions of your doomsday policy positions.

The best example of this is Mamdani. He's the most famous and on the biggest stage. You can't name a single thing he's done that's unreasonable, much less scary.


You don't think any of these radicals who have won primaries will get elected to the big show?

And do what, the type of totally normal stuff Mamdani has done?

And if any do get elected, and even if they are vastly more progressive than you, there's a vast chasm between "any" and "enough to be electorally consequential."

The zombie Republican Party got hollowed out by MAGA, to the country's significant detriment.

That ain't happening on the left by people that want open borders, to abolish the police, and to do away with the Senate. Zero chance that happens.

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In reply to Civilized • 6:58p, 7/19/26
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

LOLOLOL

What socialists have taken over the Democratic Party? Name them.

There is an actual democratic socialist in power in New York City. Name the two or three craziest things he's done.

You have a dude sitting in the captains chair, the most powerful executive in the world, that has started new wars, endlessly and corruptly enriched his family, covered up for pedophiles, tried to overturn a free and fair election, raped and assaulted women and cheated on multiple wives, and generally proved himself to be an extraordinarily incompetent and unethical leader and human being.

And you're bawling about fixing potholes and affordable childcare and housing and health care being 'war'.

Yes, sure man, those devilish Democratic socialists are coming for your potholes. Truly horrifying.

Make it make sense.


I know it's difficult for you to form a coherent thought without thinking about your great President Trump but, for the love of God, try harder.

Old school democrat party (you) are aging out. Your party is slowly being taken over by radicals.

They are winning primaries in NY, Michigan, Colorado. They are defeating long time, old school democrats like you and they literally say they want to abolish borders, abolish prisons, abolish the police, abolish the U.S. Senate. The Mayor of Seattle. The mayor of NYC is one of these also. He literally said he "would not condemn globalize the intifada"…

These people are here to destroy the country and you are going to help them because you are too proud to say you were wrong.

PS: try to respond without using the word "Trump"….

Just in case you were unaware, denialists are almost always immune to reason.


Pride is a powerful emotion. It's difficult to say I was wrong.

I don't know how old Civ is? There is a good chance reality sets in before he's gone but the damage will be done.

I'm late 40's.

And again, no candidates are winning making any of these claims central to their campaign, or anything close, in the way you describe. Immigration reform isn't "open borders." Police reform and reduced incarceration isn't "abolish the police." Abolishing the Senate has zero widespread support.

My problem with all this is you mischaracterize these positions and then grossly overstate how much support they actually have and then mischaracterize the proportion of the left that are even running on milder versions of your doomsday policy positions.

The best example of this is Mamdani. He's the most famous and on the biggest stage. You can't name a single thing he's done that's unreasonable, much less scary.


You don't think any of these radicals who have won primaries will get elected to the big show?

And do what, the type of totally normal stuff Mamdani has done?

And if any do get elected, and even if they are vastly more progressive than you, there's a vast chasm between "any" and "enough to be electorally consequential."

The zombie Republican Party got hollowed out by MAGA, to the country's significant detriment.

That ain't happening on the left by people that want open borders, to abolish the police, and to do away with the Senate. Zero chance that happens.



Grow up Civ.
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In reply to IseWolf22 • 7:07p, 7/19/26
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I can guarantee I read a lot more news and analysis from POVs I do not agree with than you and the rest of the Trump crowd.

It doesn't surprise me you would say something like that…

I try to give you the benefit of the doubt as one of the few MAGA here not reveling in the lowest common denominator politics, but you consistently contradict yourself.

Really??
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For Mr. Civ
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Bill Maher admits he could vote for JD Vance, warns 'cowardly' Democrats face socialist takeover
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"My vote is in play because it can't be Trump running, so I'm not living in communist America," Maher said.


Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher said Sunday that he could vote for Vice President JD Vance in the 2028 presidential election if Democrats nominate a candidate aligned with the party's socialist wing, calling Democrats "cowardly" and warning that radicals are taking over the party.
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/bill-maher-admits-could-vote-174405996.html

You know the times are changing when BM is saying the same thing I'm saying.

Civ, you still there?
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 7:34p, 7/19/26
#Sieve would fall all over himself to vote for this..............particularly when AOC throws out that southern drawl.
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7:35p, 7/19/26
#nappy, this is some compendia, don't you agree?
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I recall making my first mention of Directed Energy Weapons (DEWs) here after the Maui fire. And the catcalls came from everywhere even some of those watching along, but not ever posting here. Better wake up #sheeple, the world is not as you've been led to believe across most all fronts. Keep on watching the lying MSM and you'll end up taking more jabs in the future in addition to putting Communists in office only to lose your sovereignty.

You ever heard to term #FreeEnergy? Well, I'll introduce right now, here, it if you haven't heard the term. It's coming.

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Our resident #blindmice could watch this clip all day for the next two months and never have a question about it.
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LMAO, #sheeple will always be #sheeple. I was in DC on January 06th for this reason. #StopTheSteal
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Could be a movie we go see at the theatre one day. Entitle it "THE SHEEPLE".
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In reply to Werewolf • 7:52p, 7/19/26
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LMAO, #sheeple will always be #sheeple. I was in DC on January 06th for this reason. #StopTheSteal


This is going to sound crazy but I'm okay with the democrats stealing 2020. I think it worked out for the best. The country got to see life under Obama's third term and Trump got to regroup, making his second term more meaningful.

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The same group controls both #iran and #israel. Great for the banking business, and great towards the end goal of a cataclysmic war to end civilization as we know it.

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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 8:01p, 7/19/26
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Werewolf said:
LMAO, #sheeple will always be #sheeple. I was in DC on January 06th for this reason. #StopTheSteal


This is going to sound crazy but I'm okay with the democrats stealing 2020. I think it worked out for the best. The country got to see life under Obama's third term and Trump got to regroup, making his second term more meaningful.


You're describing #devolution. Precisely what Military Intelligence did, it was a sting operation. Juan O'Savin has described this many times. #devolution wakes people up, and it also allows evildoers to continue their corruption, etc and for the US Military Intelligence to continue to collect the evidence. There remain about 750,000 sealed indictments out there.

In 2020, our population was too close to a 50-50 split across the spectrum of America's discourse. To correct 2020 would have resulted in certain civil war. The Q team fully understood this so we ended up with one of the best #RedPills the people could swallow. That #RedPill was none other than Joe Biden and Cackling Kamala Harris.........and what an illustrious show it was, LMAO.
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For Mr. Civ
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Bill Maher admits he could vote for JD Vance, warns 'cowardly' Democrats face socialist takeover
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"My vote is in play because it can't be Trump running, so I'm not living in communist America," Maher said.


Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher said Sunday that he could vote for Vice President JD Vance in the 2028 presidential election if Democrats nominate a candidate aligned with the party's socialist wing, calling Democrats "cowardly" and warning that radicals are taking over the party.
- - -

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/bill-maher-admits-could-vote-174405996.html

You know the times are changing when BM is saying the same thing I'm saying.

Civ, you still there?

LOLOL

If Bill Maher wants to vote for a smarmy, spineless chameleon like JD Vance that's his prerogative. He won't though; why would he? The closest thing to a viable DSA candidate right now is AOC, and in order for her to win the general she'll have to moderate her positions in a significant way.

That's the value of the process, it typically pushes candidates to the middle come general election time.

So it will be Vance vs. a normie Dem, or a more moderate AOC, and Bill Maher likely ain't voting for JD Vance in that showdown and even if he does more power to him. That's his choice.
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Gulfstream4 said:
For Mr. Civ
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Bill Maher admits he could vote for JD Vance, warns 'cowardly' Democrats face socialist takeover
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"My vote is in play because it can't be Trump running, so I'm not living in communist America," Maher said.


Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher said Sunday that he could vote for Vice President JD Vance in the 2028 presidential election if Democrats nominate a candidate aligned with the party's socialist wing, calling Democrats "cowardly" and warning that radicals are taking over the party.
- - -

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/bill-maher-admits-could-vote-174405996.html

You know the times are changing when BM is saying the same thing I'm saying.

Civ, you still there?

LOLOL

If Bill Maher wants to vote for a smarmy, spineless chameleon like JD Vance that's his prerogative. He won't though; why would he? The closest thing to a viable DSA candidate right now is AOC, and in order for her to win the general she'll have to moderate her positions in a significant way.

That's the value of the process, it typically pushes candidates to the middle come general election time.

So it will be Vance vs. a normie Dem, or a more moderate AOC, and Bill Maher likely ain't voting for JD Vance in that showdown and even if he does more power to him. That's his choice.


Why can't you just call him JD Vance? Why the hate?

You know more about who Bill Maher will vote for than Bill Maher? That's mighty bold of you. Who is a normal Democrat if not AOC? Bernie…lol? Newsom…lol? Harris…lol? There is no "normal" democrat, can't you see that?

AOC might say moderate things to win the low information voter but a leopard doesn't change her spots. Just like the "moderate" Governor of Virginia….once in office, they toe the party line.

Your old school democrat party is dead.
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8:23p, 7/19/26
I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument
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Case in point:

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I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.
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8:36p, 7/19/26
"The enormity of what is coming will SHOCK THE WORLD." - Q

"The Calm Before the Storm". What Storm Mr. President?
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