TRUMP 2024

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hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.
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Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.


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Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.
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Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!

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SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

ETA: so you will stop your, it must be a Trump thing, one of my best friends dad was working at the US embassy in Iran in the late 70s. It is probably too personal for me but hey call me a Trump defender!
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Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

That's the funny part, Trump is accused of breaking his no new wars pledge. So far, he hasn't .
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SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!


no, that's not the only way. Once the regime can no longer pay soldiers, we'll see what happens.

As for your asinine take about Gaza. Sorry buddy, but those people made their choice to be lead by terrorism. Unfortunately that comes with a hefty price when those terrorist do absolutely deplorable things. I'll believe 70,000 were killed when I see a number from someone other than the minister of health in Gaza.
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Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?
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hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



no, that's not the only way. Once the regime can no longer pay soldiers, we'll see what happens.

As for your asinine take about Gaza. Sorry buddy, but those people made their choice to be lead by terrorism. Unfortunately that comes with a hefty price when those terrorist do absolutely deplorable things. I'll believe 70,000 were killed when I see a number from someone other than the minister of health in Gaza.

Your mindset basically justifies how every terrorist feels about every innocent Israeli, too. Once you've gone down that dark hole there are no innocent civilians. Pretty reprehensible, man.
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Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?
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SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



no, that's not the only way. Once the regime can no longer pay soldiers, we'll see what happens.

As for your asinine take about Gaza. Sorry buddy, but those people made their choice to be lead by terrorism. Unfortunately that comes with a hefty price when those terrorist do absolutely deplorable things. I'll believe 70,000 were killed when I see a number from someone other than the minister of health in Gaza.

Your mindset basically justifies how every terrorist feels about every innocent Israeli, too. Once you've gone down that dark hole there are no innocent civilians. Pretty reprehensible, man.
im sorry, who attacked who on October 7? Who murdered and raped and mutilated men women and children? Who kidnapped who and held them against their will, beat, starved, tortured, and then killed them?

Who was dropping leaflets before they attacked an area? Who was providing aid to the citizens of Gaza?

You sir, are the reprehensible one.
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SmaptyWolf
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Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.
Cthepack
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SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.
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hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



no, that's not the only way. Once the regime can no longer pay soldiers, we'll see what happens.

As for your asinine take about Gaza. Sorry buddy, but those people made their choice to be lead by terrorism. Unfortunately that comes with a hefty price when those terrorist do absolutely deplorable things. I'll believe 70,000 were killed when I see a number from someone other than the minister of health in Gaza.

Your mindset basically justifies how every terrorist feels about every innocent Israeli, too. Once you've gone down that dark hole there are no innocent civilians. Pretty reprehensible, man.

im sorry, who attacked who on October 7? Who murdered and raped and mutilated men women and children? Who kidnapped who and held them against their will, beat, starved, tortured, and then killed them?

Who was dropping leaflets before they attacked an area? Who was providing aid to the citizens of Gaza?

You sir, are the reprehensible one.

October 7th happened because Hamas thinks the same way that you do... they don't believe there are any innocent civilians in Israel.

And give me a break... Israel made it so difficult to get aid into Gaza that Biden literally had to pull a high risk naval beach head operation to try and get aid in. Apparently there aren't any innocent aid trucks or ambulances, either.
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The fact that you see a terrorist group the same as a country says a lot about you.
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Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?
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hokiewolf said:

The fact that you see a terrorist group the same as a country says a lot about you.

Palestinians see themselves as a country, too... that was kinda the point of the "two state solution" thing. The fact that you see an entire population as a terrorist group says a lot about you. Somehow in Iran you get the nuance, though. That's progress, I suppose.
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eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?

You can criticize anything you want. You can also make up as many falsehoods and conspiracy theories as you like.

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SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The fact that you see a terrorist group the same as a country says a lot about you.

Palestinians see themselves as a country, too... that was kinda the point of the "two state solution" thing. The fact that you see an entire population as a terrorist group says a lot about you. Somehow in Iran you get the nuance, though. That's progress, I suppose.
Palestine isnt a country, no matter how much you want to will it into existence. The facts are this situation was not created by creating Israel, it was created by the Arab countries rejecting the Palestinians, specifically Jordan. So, understand your history before you go blaming Israel and the US for the plight of the Palestinian
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Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?

You can criticize anything you want. You can also make up as many falsehoods and conspiracy theories as you like.




Well, he directly said he did it to help Israel and he could release the files at any time like he promised during the election
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eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?

You can criticize anything you want. You can also make up as many falsehoods and conspiracy theories as you like.




Well, he directly said he did it to help Israel and he could release the files at any time like he promised during the election

Like I said, you can make up as many conspiracy theories as you like.
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hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The fact that you see a terrorist group the same as a country says a lot about you.

Palestinians see themselves as a country, too... that was kinda the point of the "two state solution" thing. The fact that you see an entire population as a terrorist group says a lot about you. Somehow in Iran you get the nuance, though. That's progress, I suppose.

Palestine isnt a country, no matter how much you want to will it into existence. The facts are this situation was not created by creating Israel, it was created by the Arab countries rejecting the Palestinians, specifically Jordan. So, understand your history before you go blaming Israel and the US for the plight of the Palestinian

I've only been to weddings in Tel Aviv, driven through the West Bank, and have a friend currently living in Tehran. But I'll defer to your historical "expertise". Like most people invested in this region, you're confusing the mentality people always adopt in wartime where the other side must be at 100% at fault with reality.
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Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?

You can criticize anything you want. You can also make up as many falsehoods and conspiracy theories as you like.




Well, he directly said he did it to help Israel and he could release the files at any time like he promised during the election

Like I said, you can make up as many conspiracy theories as you like.


And you can defend a pedophile if you want. Again, isn't it surprising he's never sued anybody for defamation over that claim? He's shown that he'll sue his own DOJ and settle with taxpayer money. Why not sue to clear his name?
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eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?

You can criticize anything you want. You can also make up as many falsehoods and conspiracy theories as you like.




Well, he directly said he did it to help Israel and he could release the files at any time like he promised during the election

Like I said, you can make up as many conspiracy theories as you like.


And you can defend a pedophile if you want. Again, isn't it surprising he's never sued anybody for defamation over that claim? He's shown that he'll sue his own DOJ and settle with taxpayer money. Why not sue to clear his name?

I have not defended anyone.
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SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The fact that you see a terrorist group the same as a country says a lot about you.

Palestinians see themselves as a country, too... that was kinda the point of the "two state solution" thing. The fact that you see an entire population as a terrorist group says a lot about you. Somehow in Iran you get the nuance, though. That's progress, I suppose.

Palestine isnt a country, no matter how much you want to will it into existence. The facts are this situation was not created by creating Israel, it was created by the Arab countries rejecting the Palestinians, specifically Jordan. So, understand your history before you go blaming Israel and the US for the plight of the Palestinian

I've only been to weddings in Tel Aviv, driven through the West Bank, and have a friend currently living in Tehran. But I'll defer to your historical "expertise". Like most people invested in this region, you're confusing the mentality people always adopt in wartime where the other side must be at 100% at fault with reality.
lol ok man. You're not the only one who's traveled to Israel and the Middle East.
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Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?

You can criticize anything you want. You can also make up as many falsehoods and conspiracy theories as you like.




Well, he directly said he did it to help Israel and he could release the files at any time like he promised during the election

Like I said, you can make up as many conspiracy theories as you like.


And you can defend a pedophile if you want. Again, isn't it surprising he's never sued anybody for defamation over that claim? He's shown that he'll sue his own DOJ and settle with taxpayer money. Why not sue to clear his name?

I have not defended anyone.


Gotcha. I know you previously said you wouldn't defend Trump, but I just jumped in when you claimed someone said he wouldn't cheer for the US to win the war when it was clear he responded he would. You can hope we win the war without being complicit with what led to it.
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eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?


Literally none of that is true. It's just your opinion passed off as fact.
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SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The fact that you see a terrorist group the same as a country says a lot about you.

Palestinians see themselves as a country, too... that was kinda the point of the "two state solution" thing. The fact that you see an entire population as a terrorist group says a lot about you. Somehow in Iran you get the nuance, though. That's progress, I suppose.


How come none of the neighboring Arab countries see them as a country? How come none of those countries want them? Have you seen the border wall with Egypt for example?

Palestinians are the absolute worst of the worst. Everywhere they go trouble follows.
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eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?

You can criticize anything you want. You can also make up as many falsehoods and conspiracy theories as you like.




Well, he directly said he did it to help Israel and he could release the files at any time like he promised during the election


Why didn't your guy Biden release the files? With everything democrats did to stop your President Trump from winning, you don't think they would have leaked incriminating evidence to their lap dog media if they had any?
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eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

eljefe444 said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

Eastralwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"

It's the same leadership / regime though. You're being naive if you think anything will change in Iran. This has been nothing short of a disaster with no end in sight.

Iran has been at war for close to 50 years with the US. A couple months into something that should have happened long ago and we call it a disaster. Yep lets let countries kill 30 thousand citizens because it may take a little while to change the regime.

The lengths you guys will contort yourselves in order to DEFEND TRUMP and his moronic foreign policy is pretty amazing.

Guess what? There's is zero chance Trump is planning a ground invasion of Iran, and that's the only way that this regime will change. So everything else is just you being an easy mark. Trump got suckered into believing that Iran was so weak that a weekend of airstrikes would usher in a glorious civil war. Yeah, that didn't happen. What did happen is a fairly predictable meltdown of our global oil supply that apparently caught Trump by surprise, and the only play in his playbook isn't working to fix it.

So now you're defending $20 gas prices to cover for his stupidity? Of course you are. Somehow incinerating 70,000 innocent Gazans who were led by Hamas a**holes didn't raise an eyebrow, and you seemed to actually root for Putin trying to bulldoze Ukraine and threaten all of Europe... but -sob- think of the innocent Iranians!!! Give me a break.

I do like "Meatless Mondays" as your campaign slogan for the midterms... you should definitely go with that!



I would never vote for Trump and never have. I am not defending him or ever will. Your cheering for a terroist run country over the US is disgusting.

Pointing out that Trump is a moron who has made our Iran situation much worse is "cheering" for Iran? Got it!

I bet you thought demanding we stop being stupid in Iraq and Afghanistan was cheerleading the terrorists, too.

Do you want the US to win the war?

It's a stupid question, because the current "war" isn't "winnable". It was a bad idea to begin with. Best case now we'll have to make a deal that I'm very confident will be worse than the one Trump previously trashed... and Iran's nuclear program will still be intact with people who are actually justified in wanting to seek revenge, you know, for killing their leaders. Do you think we'd tolerate anyone killing our leaders? Yeah, no.

Do I think we should launch a ground invasion to actually win the war and change the regime? Hell no. Let the Israeli's and Saudi's sacrifice their kids instead of conning us into fixing their problems for them.

I did not ask if you thought the war was winnable or not. Or what you thought the potential outcome will be. I asked a very simple question.

We are in a conflct with Iran right now. Do you want the US to win this war/conflict?

Sure. I also want a magic pony. And what I really want are leaders who aren't shockingly inept grifters.

Sad you are pulling for the US to lose.


He literally just said he wants to win the war. Here's a simple one: Is it fair to criticize the way we entered this war?

Is it fair to criticize the one who threw away the peaceful resolution that kept Iran from enriching uranium to prevent nuclear weapons and then threw us into a war to appease Israel and distract from the Epstein files?

You can criticize anything you want. You can also make up as many falsehoods and conspiracy theories as you like.




Well, he directly said he did it to help Israel and he could release the files at any time like he promised during the election

Like I said, you can make up as many conspiracy theories as you like.


And you can defend a pedophile if you want. Again, isn't it surprising he's never sued anybody for defamation over that claim? He's shown that he'll sue his own DOJ and settle with taxpayer money. Why not sue to clear his name?

I have not defended anyone.


Gotcha. I know you previously said you wouldn't defend Trump, but I just jumped in when you claimed someone said he wouldn't cheer for the US to win the war when it was clear he responded he would. You can hope we win the war without being complicit with what led to it.


What led to it? How about your guy Obama sending two billion in cold hard cash? How about Hillary green lighting a sale of a uranium mine where something like 70% of that uranium went to Iran? How about your guy Biden unfreezing $6 billion dollars?
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

The fact that you see a terrorist group the same as a country says a lot about you.

Palestinians see themselves as a country, too... that was kinda the point of the "two state solution" thing. The fact that you see an entire population as a terrorist group says a lot about you. Somehow in Iran you get the nuance, though. That's progress, I suppose.


How come none of the neighboring Arab countries see them as a country? How come none of those countries want them? Have you seen the border wall with Egypt for example?

Palestinians are the absolute worst of the worst. Everywhere they go trouble follows.

Literally no country in the history of countries has been excited about taking in millions of refugees.

You're a moron.
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