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7:33p, 2/15/26
Marco Rubio continues to impress me greatly. It's a shame the rubes are going to nominate Vance.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 7:50p, 2/15/26
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Marco Rubio continues to impress me greatly. It's a shame the rubes are going to nominate Vance.

I suspect you believe Marco supports child trafficking, pedophilia and ritual sacrifice like your party does?
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Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.

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#Sieve, why would your party not want to clean voter roles?
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In reply to Civilized • 7:23a
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Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.



In 1-3 years no damage will be done and you'll lie about ever saying this. The usual. Keep pearl clutching though. This is the one!!!!
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Good to remember when the propagandists spout their rhetoric.

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It's just partisan politics, right #3blindmice?
Nothing to see here, right #3blindmice?
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In reply to packgrad • 7:45a
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Good to remember when the propagandists spout their rhetoric.



The night the United States narrowly escaped its death. Will the full truth of what actually happened ever be revealed.....
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The system fighting Donald Trump is described here. Think about what we've all been a part of, asleep at the wheel.
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In reply to Civilized • 8:01a
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Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.



Poppycock. That is liberal propaganda and is nowhere near representative of the European people.
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In reply to Civilized • 8:05a
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Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.


Been pretty open that I dont particularly care for how Trump/Vance have treated our allies, especially Europe/Canada. There are much more diplomatic ways to get your message across than their rambling incoherent ways, such as Rubio's speech in Munich (which was fantastic, btw).

Now, having said that, I do think they are on the right track policy wise. Europe has massive issues on their own that they seem unwilling to address, so sometimes tough love is needed. They complain about us being the world police then screech when we pull back. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, for the love of all that's holy, please stop with the Greenland nonsense. Just work out whatever diplomatic deal you are trying to achieve to get the bases wherever you want. It cannot be this difficult/stupid to accomplish
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Quality.

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In reply to FlossyDFlynt • 9:04a
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.


Been pretty open that I dont particularly care for how Trump/Vance have treated our allies, especially Europe/Canada. There are much more diplomatic ways to get your message across than their rambling incoherent ways, such as Rubio's speech in Munich (which was fantastic, btw).

Now, having said that, I do think they are on the right track policy wise. Europe has massive issues on their own that they seem unwilling to address, so sometimes tough love is needed. They complain about us being the world police then screech when we pull back. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, for the love of all that's holy, please stop with the Greenland nonsense. Just work out whatever diplomatic deal you are trying to achieve to get the bases wherever you want. It cannot be this difficult/stupid to accomplish


When you say they're on the right track policy-wise, what policy?

Border security is the obvious one and that has significant support electorally. It's a huge part of why Trump got elected a second time and almost certain to carry forward with either party in power.

What else?
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In reply to FlossyDFlynt • 9:06a
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.


Been pretty open that I dont particularly care for how Trump/Vance have treated our allies, especially Europe/Canada. There are much more diplomatic ways to get your message across than their rambling incoherent ways, such as Rubio's speech in Munich (which was fantastic, btw).

Now, having said that, I do think they are on the right track policy wise. Europe has massive issues on their own that they seem unwilling to address, so sometimes tough love is needed. They complain about us being the world police then screech when we pull back. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, for the love of all that's holy, please stop with the Greenland nonsense. Just work out whatever diplomatic deal you are trying to achieve to get the bases wherever you want. It cannot be this difficult/stupid to accomplish
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In reply to Civilized • 9:26a
Civilized said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.


Been pretty open that I dont particularly care for how Trump/Vance have treated our allies, especially Europe/Canada. There are much more diplomatic ways to get your message across than their rambling incoherent ways, such as Rubio's speech in Munich (which was fantastic, btw).

Now, having said that, I do think they are on the right track policy wise. Europe has massive issues on their own that they seem unwilling to address, so sometimes tough love is needed. They complain about us being the world police then screech when we pull back. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, for the love of all that's holy, please stop with the Greenland nonsense. Just work out whatever diplomatic deal you are trying to achieve to get the bases wherever you want. It cannot be this difficult/stupid to accomplish


When you say they're on the right track policy-wise, what policy?

Border security is the obvious one and that has significant support electorally. It's a huge part of why Trump got elected a second time and almost certain to carry forward with either party in power.

What else?


Why would it carry forward with Democrats? You all spent the Biden years calling anyone who questioned Biden's open door borders racist and xenophobic? Is that the official platform of Democrats to just pretend people forget the way you behaved for 4 years, or hell 8 if you include 45.

People have to look no further than Virginia to see how the Dems ran as moderates, and as soon as elected push for far left policy?

Is that the Dem official playbook? Pray for ignorance and then bait and switch?
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In reply to packgrad • 9:31a
packgrad said:
Civilized said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.


Been pretty open that I dont particularly care for how Trump/Vance have treated our allies, especially Europe/Canada. There are much more diplomatic ways to get your message across than their rambling incoherent ways, such as Rubio's speech in Munich (which was fantastic, btw).

Now, having said that, I do think they are on the right track policy wise. Europe has massive issues on their own that they seem unwilling to address, so sometimes tough love is needed. They complain about us being the world police then screech when we pull back. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, for the love of all that's holy, please stop with the Greenland nonsense. Just work out whatever diplomatic deal you are trying to achieve to get the bases wherever you want. It cannot be this difficult/stupid to accomplish


When you say they're on the right track policy-wise, what policy?

Border security is the obvious one and that has significant support electorally. It's a huge part of why Trump got elected a second time and almost certain to carry forward with either party in power.

What else?


Why would it carry forward with Democrats? You all spent the Biden years calling anyone who questioned Biden's open door borders racist and xenophobic? Is that the official platform of Democrats to just pretend people forget the way you behaved for 4 years, or hell 8 if you include 45.

People have to look no further than Virginia to see how the Dems ran as moderates, and as soon as elected push for far left policy?

Is that the Dem official playbook? Pray for ignorance and then bait and switch?


Because they just lost a Presidential election due to their stance on it, and will adapt moving forward.

The right is in no position to talk about baiting and switching. You were on here defending Trump's candidacy a year ago, saying he had no connection to Project 2025.

Over a year later, Project 2025 is the de facto manifesto of the Trump Administration.
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In reply to Civilized • 9:45a
Civilized said:
packgrad said:
Civilized said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.


Been pretty open that I dont particularly care for how Trump/Vance have treated our allies, especially Europe/Canada. There are much more diplomatic ways to get your message across than their rambling incoherent ways, such as Rubio's speech in Munich (which was fantastic, btw).

Now, having said that, I do think they are on the right track policy wise. Europe has massive issues on their own that they seem unwilling to address, so sometimes tough love is needed. They complain about us being the world police then screech when we pull back. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, for the love of all that's holy, please stop with the Greenland nonsense. Just work out whatever diplomatic deal you are trying to achieve to get the bases wherever you want. It cannot be this difficult/stupid to accomplish


When you say they're on the right track policy-wise, what policy?

Border security is the obvious one and that has significant support electorally. It's a huge part of why Trump got elected a second time and almost certain to carry forward with either party in power.

What else?


Why would it carry forward with Democrats? You all spent the Biden years calling anyone who questioned Biden's open door borders racist and xenophobic? Is that the official platform of Democrats to just pretend people forget the way you behaved for 4 years, or hell 8 if you include 45.

People have to look no further than Virginia to see how the Dems ran as moderates, and as soon as elected push for far left policy?

Is that the Dem official playbook? Pray for ignorance and then bait and switch?


Because they just lost a Presidential election due to their stance on it, and will adapt moving forward.

The right is in no position to talk about baiting and switching. You were on here defending Trump's candidacy a year ago, saying he had no connection to Project 2025.

Over a year later, Project 2025 is the de facto manifesto of the Trump Administration.



Trump ran on immigration reform. Trump ran on reducing federal workforce. Trump ran on eliminating department of education. Trump ran on getting rid of DEI. He is following through on his campaign promises. Leftists want to create a boogeyman in Project 2025, but it has as much tooth as you supporting immigration reform when you called everyone racist and xenophobic for doing the same the last 4 years.

Additionally, Dave cries about the Jones Act non stop on here. Why hasn't Trump done that if Project 2025 is the manifesto. Quite frankly he's gone the opposite direction.

Trump did not bait and switch. If you want to continue your lying ways, please dig in on that nonsense.
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In reply to packgrad • 10:27a
All you have to do is look at what Spanberger has done in Virginia... supposedly ran as a moderate (non-leftist) Democrat - and all she has done since is to enact policies to turn the entire Commonwealth of Virginia into Loudoun County (ie. DC).

That was a bait and switch already.
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In reply to TheStorm • 10:33a
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All you have to do is look at what Spanberger has done in Virginia... supposedly ran as a moderate (non-leftist) Democrat - and all she has done since is to enact policies to turn the entire Commonwealth of Virginia into Loudoun County (ie. DC).

That was a bait and switch already.
Im not sure every crazy piece of legislation that was introduced actually has a chance to pass.

The Democratic strongholds in the Commonwealth are not homogeneous. Maybe that will tamper down these insane proposals.

But I do agree, a lot of people fell for the Okie Doke.

Also, it was egregious to elect the Attorney General they did. That guy has zero integrity and should have been ostracized from politics and not rallied around.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 11:22a
hokiewolf said:
TheStorm said:
All you have to do is look at what Spanberger has done in Virginia... supposedly ran as a moderate (non-leftist) Democrat - and all she has done since is to enact policies to turn the entire Commonwealth of Virginia into Loudoun County (ie. DC).

That was a bait and switch already.

Im not sure every crazy piece of legislation that was introduced actually has a chance to pass.

The Democratic strongholds in the Commonwealth are not homogeneous. Maybe that will tamper down these insane proposals.

But I do agree, a lot of people fell for the Okie Doke.

Also, it was egregious to elect the Attorney General they did. That guy has zero integrity and should have been ostracized from politics and not rallied around.

There was a time when Virginia was a reliably red state. Republicans only have themselves to blame, as they weren't serious about drastically scaling back the size of the Federal government. It wasn't that long ago that Frank Wolf represented NOVA in Congress as a Republican back in the nineties.
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In reply to Civilized • 12:56p
Civilized said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.


Been pretty open that I dont particularly care for how Trump/Vance have treated our allies, especially Europe/Canada. There are much more diplomatic ways to get your message across than their rambling incoherent ways, such as Rubio's speech in Munich (which was fantastic, btw).

Now, having said that, I do think they are on the right track policy wise. Europe has massive issues on their own that they seem unwilling to address, so sometimes tough love is needed. They complain about us being the world police then screech when we pull back. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, for the love of all that's holy, please stop with the Greenland nonsense. Just work out whatever diplomatic deal you are trying to achieve to get the bases wherever you want. It cannot be this difficult/stupid to accomplish


When you say they're on the right track policy-wise, what policy?

Border security is the obvious one and that has significant support electorally. It's a huge part of why Trump got elected a second time and almost certain to carry forward with either party in power.

What else?

Getting Europe to rearm up to their NATO commitment levels. We should have never let them slack on that, especially after Russia invaded Crimea in 2014. Well past time for Europe to take their own defense seriously, especially with Russia/China becoming much more aggressive militarily.

Also like their pushback against EU censorship laws.
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In reply to FlossyDFlynt • 1:23p
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Reason #47 why America's opinion abroad matters.

This era of "nothing matters" can't end soon enough. The only questions surround how much of the damage done so far and in the next 1-3 years will be recoverable.


Been pretty open that I dont particularly care for how Trump/Vance have treated our allies, especially Europe/Canada. There are much more diplomatic ways to get your message across than their rambling incoherent ways, such as Rubio's speech in Munich (which was fantastic, btw).

Now, having said that, I do think they are on the right track policy wise. Europe has massive issues on their own that they seem unwilling to address, so sometimes tough love is needed. They complain about us being the world police then screech when we pull back. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, for the love of all that's holy, please stop with the Greenland nonsense. Just work out whatever diplomatic deal you are trying to achieve to get the bases wherever you want. It cannot be this difficult/stupid to accomplish


When you say they're on the right track policy-wise, what policy?

Border security is the obvious one and that has significant support electorally. It's a huge part of why Trump got elected a second time and almost certain to carry forward with either party in power.

What else?

Getting Europe to rearm up to their NATO commitment levels. We should have never let them slack on that, especially after Russia invaded Crimea in 2014. Well past time for Europe to take their own defense seriously, especially with Russia/China becoming much more aggressive militarily.

Also like their pushback against EU censorship laws.


Fully support businesslike conversations and actions surrounding those matters.

What's totally unnecessary and damaging isn't honest, direct, transparent discussions about those topics.

It's the reputational and economic and geopolitical damage wrought from treating our allies like our adversaries, while coddling our actual adversaries.

The whole Greenland thing is and always was preposterous, but the punitive, arbitrary tariffs (and totally unproductive, condescending dialogue surrounding them from Trump to foreign leaders) and pugilistic posturing on NATO, Ukraine, and other matters have probably done equal or greater damage.

There have been some victories in the last year, mainly border security and NATO funding, but this Administration is so far underwater because the totality of their constitutionality, maturity, honesty, tone, and overall effectiveness or lack thereoff especially economically has been so off-putting to so many Americans, and our significantly degraded ally relationships are a fair portion of that assessment.

And virtually all of that is self-inflicted and unnecessary.
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I've known this for years, but it's becoming more clear by the day....Trump is controlled op, and a Democrat plant. Trump was a life-long Democrat, and only spouted "conservative" RHETORIC on the campaign trail.

The Deep State Establishment controls 99% of both parties, including Trump. There's only a handful of "real" anti-Establishment members of Congress, like Massie and MTG and maybe Rand Paul.

The most important position in a President's administration is the Department of Justice. And Trump has picked two RINO pro-Establishment "swamp" creatures to head his DOJ -- Bill Barr and Pam Bondi. Both Barr and Bondi have done nothing but defend and protect the Establishment and Deep State/Swamp. We are a year into his second term and Bondi's DOJ has done NOTHING to prosecute any high-level criminals.

The two-party system is all scripted political theatre. The Republicans in Congress (Johnson and Thune) have done almost nothing over the last year. They are basically just lying down and squandering any chance to implement a conservative agenda. Why? Because the RINO leadership are like "Democrat lite". They work with the Democrats to implement the same big government, tyrannical, war-mongering agenda while only "opposing" each other on a few things to give the illusion of a real and meaningful difference between the parties.

You can see right now that they are setting things up to have the Democrats "win" (with rigged elections, etc) the midterms and take control of the House and Senate. And they will impeach Trump again and maybe even have enough votes to remove him in the Senate.

It's all theatre. They are using Trump to further demoralize conservatives, and to have the puppet Trump "tarnish" the face of the conservative movement.

"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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I've known this for years, but it's becoming more clear by the day....Trump is controlled op, and a Democrat plant. Trump was a life-long Democrat, and only spouted "conservative" RHETORIC on the campaign trail.

The Deep State Establishment controls 99% of both parties, including Trump. There's only a handful of "real" anti-Establishment members of Congress, like Massie and MTG and maybe Rand Paul.

The most important position in a President's administration is the Department of Justice. And Trump has picked two RINO pro-Establishment "swamp" creatures to head his DOJ -- Bill Barr and Pam Bondi. Both Barr and Bondi have done nothing but defend and protect the Establishment and Deep State/Swamp. We are a year into his second term and Bondi's DOJ has done NOTHING to prosecute any high-level criminals.

The two-party system is all scripted political theatre. The Republicans in Congress (Johnson and Thune) have done almost nothing over the last year. They are basically just lying down and squandering any chance to implement a conservative agenda. Why? Because the RINO leadership are like "Democrat lite". They work with the Democrats to implement the same big government, tyrannical, war-mongering agenda while only "opposing" each other on a few things to give the illusion of a real and meaningful difference between the parties.

You can see right now that they are setting things up to have the Democrats "win" (with rigged elections, etc) the midterms and take control of the House and Senate. And they will impeach Trump again and maybe even have enough votes to remove him in the Senate.

It's all theatre. They are using Trump to further demoralize conservatives, and to have the puppet Trump "tarnish" the face of the conservative movement.




Look at how Trump never even seemed scared or even really concerned when he was indicted with those bogus "34 felonies" and all those other lawsuits. That's because he was assured by the "powers that be" that it was all political theatre, and even if convicted he wouldn't be going to prison or anything.

All of this is like a WWE scripted show.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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#Sieve must have missed this episode of CNN; he's still convinced the D's are in control of 2026. The only supporters of the D party are the looney tunes we are seeing on the streets at ICE protests.

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All you have to do is look at what Spanberger has done in Virginia... supposedly ran as a moderate (non-leftist) Democrat - and all she has done since is to enact policies to turn the entire Commonwealth of Virginia into Loudoun County (ie. DC).

That was a bait and switch already.


There is no such things as a moderate democrat. Once they get in office they will do what they are told.
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Runbeck ;-) Maricopa County....
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To be fair for our liberal friends tomorrow we will celebrate "Almost Presidents Day"


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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 3:03p
#Sieve & the other mice have their sights set on this jewel of a candidate for 2028. We'll be Communist minions soon after her win.
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#Sieve & the other mice have their sights set on this jewel of a candidate for 2028. We'll be Communist minions soon after her win.


Embarrassing but democrats will vote for whomever they are told to vote for. Republicans will weight the opposition's democrats will toe the line.
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...........and now, a leak of voting system passwords, LOL. Create enough opportunities for fraud and its more difficult to identify which fraud system is being used. This woman may get the death penalty for all she's done.


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Guys like #Dave ....LOl
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