eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:Civilized said:Gulfstream4 said:wolfme said:Gulfstream4 said:wolfme said:Gulfstream4 said:wolfme said:Gulfstream4 said:wolfme said:Gulfstream4 said:wolfme said:
Does anyone believe Greenlanders are Americans or should be? Where do we stand on the subject of colonization?
Are Alaskans Americans? Are Hawaiians American? Heck, are Somali's Americans?
You'll cry about immigration today but nothing you can do after colonizing different places in the world. Look no further than the UK. Most their "immigration problems" are from UK born people. It's a pretty tight rope to walk if you want immigration enforcement and expansionist policy
I'll ask again, are Alaskans and Hawaiians Americans?
They are, yep. Do you want Greenland to be Americans, share your tax paying money with them rather than fix things within our borders?
I asked the first question and you're yet to answer it. But you keep asking your questions
Great. Then the people of Greenland can be Americans too? I would rather share my tax money with Greenland than Somalia. You?
What is your exact question again?
My question is whether or not you think America should take over Greenland against their will. It sounds like you think the answer is yes. I was just curious of the common sentiment around here. I got it now
I personally don't see a world where doing that and decreasing the national debt / small government influence on individual lives (something I'm passionate about) can coexist.
"Take over" is a disingenuous question. Next you'll drop the "stolen land" catch phrase?
Do I think America should acquire Greenland for national security and to keep Russia/China out of the Western Hemisphere, yes I do.
Would you rather China/Russia be to the west, south (Venezuela) and to the east in Greenland?
I'm fundamentally small government. I don't believe the government in any form is competent enough to protect the right of individual people. It's just that
So, what would you do? Allow America to get boxed in?
How are they going to get boxed in exactly?
We have China/Russia to the west. Nothing we can do about that. We get boxed in if they get a toehold in South America, which they were doing in Venezuela and in the East if they get a toehold in Greenland.
I'd rather play offense now than defense in 20 years.
Brother, that's what Article 5 of NATO is for…
Exactly.
Greenland ain't the moon or Mars. It's not finders keepers.
Russia and China aren't starting WWIII by invading at NATO nation's territory, and if you think that's actually a concern, we and our NATO allies can load it up with troops. We can do that at any point unilaterally if we want to.
This obviously isn't about Russia and China because if it was we'd engage with our allies on it.
It's some combo of Trump being demented and thinking this is real-life Monopoly and him wanting to bogart Greenland's natural resources.