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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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Imprtance of understanding Canadian leadership./

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Three Venezuelan illegals arrested after ICE officer 'ambushed and attacked'

https://www.foxnews.com/us/three-venezuelan-illegals-arrested-ice-officer-ambushed-attacked-traffic-stop-noem.amp

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These are the people our liberal friends are protesting for.
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Trump had said that if Machado gave him her Nobel Peace Prize he would accept it. So, in a desperate effort to be handed Venezuela after all she gave it to him today... and he accepted it!

Seriously, what a pathetic, emotionally stunted man-baby.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-venezuela-machado-01-15-26?post-id=cmkg2o57400003b6p3vmthcxo
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packgrad
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You don't sound mentally ill at all. LOL!
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packgrad said:

You don't sound mentally ill at all. LOL!

Lol, I bet you guys are planning a celebration to honor Trump finally "earning" a Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaking of emotionally stunted weirdos.
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Welcome to #Sieve and # Nappy's quick-burn Utopia.
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SmaptyWolf said:

packgrad said:

You don't sound mentally ill at all. LOL!

Lol, I bet you guys are planning a celebration to honor Trump finally "earning" a Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaking of emotionally stunted weirdos.


We aren't going to celebrate your President Trump earning it, we are going celebrate you crying about it.
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Oh no. Lefties are going to have to get their Denmark flags soon. Trump has been superb for the flag economy.

Werewolf
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Big developments with the Federal Reaerve coming in conflict with the US Constitution.

Reatitution will render a 50-yr Jubilee.

Words cannot describe how big this will be to your pocketbook. #LoyBrunson #Q


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packgrad said:

Oh no. Lefties are going to have to get their Denmark flags soon. Trump has been superb for the flag economy.




I read this as Denmark knows what's up.
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packgrad said:

You don't sound mentally ill at all. LOL!

Lol, I bet you guys are planning a celebration to honor Trump finally "earning" a Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaking of emotionally stunted weirdos.


We aren't going to celebrate your President Trump earning it, we are going celebrate you crying about it.

Speaking of emotionally stunted weirdos.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packgrad said:

You don't sound mentally ill at all. LOL!

Lol, I bet you guys are planning a celebration to honor Trump finally "earning" a Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaking of emotionally stunted weirdos.


We aren't going to celebrate your President Trump earning it, we are going celebrate you crying about it.

Speaking of emotionally stunted weirdos.


Cry more
Civilized
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This is a purely apolitical question.

Shouldn't ICE agents be well-trained before giving them lethal weapons and thrusting them into highly charged situations and asking them to make sound executive decisions in potentially life or death circumstances?

ICE is going to facilitate deportations under Trump, and the scope of their work is commensurate with many of the challenges and risks of traditional LEO.

As such, is it too much to ask that the agents were putting on the steeet have adequate training, commensurate with the screening and academy training traditional LEO received for the jobs they're being asked to do?
Werewolf
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#Sieve's Democrat utopia is going up in smoke.
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Civilized said:

This is a purely apolitical question.

Shouldn't ICE agents be well-trained before giving them lethal weapons and thrusting them into highly charged situations and asking them to make sound executive decisions in potentially life or death circumstances?

ICE is going to facilitate deportations under Trump, and the scope of their work is commensurate with many of the challenges and risks of traditional LEO.

As such, is it too much to ask that the agents were putting on the steeet have adequate training, commensurate with the screening and academy training traditional LEO received for the jobs they're being asked to do?
helping #daSieve out.


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Civilized said:

This is a purely apolitical question.

Shouldn't ICE agents be well-trained before giving them lethal weapons and thrusting them into highly charged situations and asking them to make sound executive decisions in potentially life or death circumstances?

ICE is going to facilitate deportations under Trump, and the scope of their work is commensurate with many of the challenges and risks of traditional LEO.

As such, is it too much to ask that the agents were putting on the steeet have adequate training, commensurate with the screening and academy training traditional LEO received for the jobs they're being asked to do?


ICE agents are trained. Many are also ex military and ex police.

These are purely apolitical questions. Shouldn't local and state leaders cooperate with federal agents when enforcing federal law?

Shouldn't local and state leaders be held legally accountable when knowingly aiding those breaking federal laws?

Shouldn't local police help federal officers when enforcing federal laws in local jurisdictions? If not, why not?

As such, is it too much to ask that local and state leaders follow federal laws and cooperate with federal agents?

As such, is it too much to ask for leaders not to demonize federal agents simply for doing their jobs and enforcing the law?

As such, is it too much to ask for local police to work with federal agents in enforcing the law?
packgrad
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Perfect. Our 3 usual suspects are the ones in the background.

Werewolf
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GP, you're a patriot. Trust the Plan.
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Look. If you are in the construction business, some of your subs are going to have illegals working at your projects... that's just a fact. I'm not accusing anybody of doing anything that is different than the working norm in that industry... I'm not saying it's right, and I'm not saying it's wrong - but what I am saying is that it definitely helps shape one's opinion about deporting illegals. Simple common sense. Just be honest about it and dispense with the smoke and mirrors bull*****

Being that it's the subs that are paying the guys cash, and not the GC, it conveniently provides a layer of plausible deniability - and I guess the basis to provide faux outrage on a message board, for whatever reason someone wants to expend that amount of energy into arguing about it, god knows why. It is what it is. The person I addressed knows it's true - and so does anyone else here with an ounce of common sense.

I can honestly say that I don't know anybody's personal names on here - and don't care to either. I don't know any company names either - and again, don't care to... and if I did, I certainly wouldn't stoop to posting them here. That is not who I am. *For further clarification, the only personal name I know on here is Glass', and that is only because he has pointed out when he's been in pictures at Savage Wolves events and at some point in time in the past he's indicated who he was working for... and sure, we've all met random people from these boards at random sporting events. But no one here is getting doxxed. Not by me anyway. That's a liberal thing... and I don't have any time for that stupid nonsense anyway. Hell, I don't even dislike the person that I got into the disagreement with either - can't figure him out, that's for sure - but I certainly don't dislike the guy. I have no reason to. *I can't say that for everybody that posts on the WC though - there are a handful that I genuinely strongly dislike - but at least I try to be honest about it.

I don't even think I said there was anything wrong with it either. That's just how it is in a 1099 industry. It's the norm.

So yeah. What I posted last night is factual. Big deal. Get over it.
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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the construction industry works and my opinion on illegals in this country. I suggest you read more carefully on what I have written here numerous times in the past, because it is not what you are implying.

The fact that you or anyone else here doesn't see how coming on this board and accusing me of putting profit over anything else would be an inexcusable comment if you actually knew who I am and how hard I've worked for 25 years to maintain an impeccable reputation in an industry that has a lot of terrible people in it.

I'm miffed that none of you ever come here and say, "hey I made a mistake, my bad. ".
It's usually the ones who have sacrificed their integrity who are the first to accuse others of the things they've done in the past.
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Civilized
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packgrad said:

Civilized said:

This is a purely apolitical question.

Shouldn't ICE agents be well-trained before giving them lethal weapons and thrusting them into highly charged situations and asking them to make sound executive decisions in potentially life or death circumstances?

ICE is going to facilitate deportations under Trump, and the scope of their work is commensurate with many of the challenges and risks of traditional LEO.

As such, is it too much to ask that the agents were putting on the steeet have adequate training, commensurate with the screening and academy training traditional LEO received for the jobs they're being asked to do?


ICE agents are trained. Many are also ex military and ex police.

These are purely apolitical questions. Shouldn't local and state leaders cooperate with federal agents when enforcing federal law?

Shouldn't local and state leaders be held legally accountable when knowingly aiding those breaking federal laws?

Shouldn't local police help federal officers when enforcing federal laws in local jurisdictions? If not, why not?

As such, is it too much to ask that local and state leaders follow federal laws and cooperate with federal agents?

As such, is it too much to ask for leaders not to demonize federal agents simply for doing their jobs and enforcing the law?

As such, is it too much to ask for local police to work with federal agents in enforcing the law?

All deflections. I'll come back to those.

The answer is simply "No, it's not too much to ask."

It's been widely reported that agent training has been often abbreviated to accommodate the aggressive enforcement ramp-up, and it's obvious seeing the way many incidents have arisen and transpired that many agents aren't adequately trained. That's a fixable problem.

Yes everyone from the president on down should follow applicable laws including and especially the Constitution. And when they don't there are channels to check illegal behavior.

As far as buying-in from local officials? No, you're not going to get that at least not on scale until Trump stops clearly targeting certain cities based on their political leanings and ICE tactics stop resembling masked goon squads that roam from city harassing people with no probable cause other than looking foreign or talking with an accent, and in some cases beating and killing people, including Americans.

Especially since these tactics quite possibly violate the 4th and run so counter to the manner in which Trump said they would when he got elected.

Police and military frequently undertake active efforts to engage in the community and earn the trust of community residents in the areas they patrol or occupy. That process sometimes takes years and in the best case scenario is still often challenging and fraught despite best efforts.

It is wildly unrealistic to think that ICE will enjoy the support of local governments or residents when their engagement in the community looks like it does. There is a less than zero chance that happens, and why would it?

What has anybody in the administration on down to the agents that are on the streets done to earn the respect and trust of the community?

Masked agents roaming streets, profiling people to see what brown person or person with an accent they should snatch and throw in their van next are never going to enjoy the support of local governments or residents. Who in the world would think they would or should?

Other than Steven Miller, of course.
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Washington sheriff under attack by WA legislature.


packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

This is a purely apolitical question.

Shouldn't ICE agents be well-trained before giving them lethal weapons and thrusting them into highly charged situations and asking them to make sound executive decisions in potentially life or death circumstances?

ICE is going to facilitate deportations under Trump, and the scope of their work is commensurate with many of the challenges and risks of traditional LEO.

As such, is it too much to ask that the agents were putting on the steeet have adequate training, commensurate with the screening and academy training traditional LEO received for the jobs they're being asked to do?


ICE agents are trained. Many are also ex military and ex police.

These are purely apolitical questions. Shouldn't local and state leaders cooperate with federal agents when enforcing federal law?

Shouldn't local and state leaders be held legally accountable when knowingly aiding those breaking federal laws?

Shouldn't local police help federal officers when enforcing federal laws in local jurisdictions? If not, why not?

As such, is it too much to ask that local and state leaders follow federal laws and cooperate with federal agents?

As such, is it too much to ask for leaders not to demonize federal agents simply for doing their jobs and enforcing the law?

As such, is it too much to ask for local police to work with federal agents in enforcing the law?

All deflections. I'll come back to those.

The answer is simply "No, it's not too much to ask."

It's been widely reported that agent training has been often abbreviated to accommodate the aggressive enforcement ramp-up, and it's obvious seeing the way many incidents have arisen and transpired that many agents aren't adequately trained. That's a fixable problem.

Yes everyone from the president on down should follow applicable laws including and especially the Constitution. And when they don't there are channels to check illegal behavior.

As far as buying-in from local officials? No, you're not going to get that at least not on scale until Trump stops clearly targeting certain cities based on their political leanings and ICE tactics stop resembling masked goon squads that roam from city harassing people with no probable cause other than looking foreign or talking with an accent, and in some cases beating and killing people, including Americans.

Especially since these tactics quite possibly violate the 4th and run so counter to the manner in which Trump said they would when he got elected.

Police and military frequently undertake active efforts to engage in the community and earn the trust of community residents in the areas they patrol or occupy. That process sometimes takes years and in the best case scenario is still often challenging and fraught despite best efforts.

It is wildly unrealistic to think that ICE will enjoy the support of local governments or residents when their engagement in the community looks like it does. There is a less than zero chance that happens, and why would it?

What has anybody in the administration on down to the agents that are on the streets done to earn the respect and trust of the community?

Masked agents roaming streets, profiling people to see what brown person or person with an accent they should snatch and throw in their van next are never going to enjoy the support of local governments or residents. Who in the world would think they would or should?

Other than Steven Miller, of course.


All bull**** propaganda.

Why do you support democrat local and state leaders releasing criminals into the streets with ICE detainers? Trump and ICE are targeting liberal cities for additional manpower because your people are not honoring the detainers. It's pretty simple cause and effect.

Why do you encourage this? Why do you say that ICE is roaming the streets looking for people who speak a certain way or look a way without giving context? Why do you say ICE is roaming the streets beating and killing people without giving context? Do you even realize what a piece of **** ******* you are saying untruthful things like that?

I truly hope you need law enforcement help one day and it doesn't come.
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Thought this was an interesting read on Greenland. Didn't know about Greenland approaching China about airports.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-knows-good-real-estate-he-knows-greenlands-value-national-security

" No, there probably won't be an invasion. The one sure way for Greenland to lose its home rule sovereignty is to get too close to China. In 2017, Greenland's prime minister flew to Beijing and asked China to bankroll new airports, according to The Wall Street Journal. Denmark stopped the deal. If anything like that happens again, Greenland will be flying a U.S. flag."
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packgrad said:

Oh no. Lefties are going to have to get their Denmark flags soon. Trump has been superb for the flag economy.



Sooner or later, Denmark will realize that their government-provided everything will cause them to run out of money, and they'll gladly accept a U.S. cash infusion to keep their socialist scam going a little longer.
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packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

This is a purely apolitical question.

Shouldn't ICE agents be well-trained before giving them lethal weapons and thrusting them into highly charged situations and asking them to make sound executive decisions in potentially life or death circumstances?

ICE is going to facilitate deportations under Trump, and the scope of their work is commensurate with many of the challenges and risks of traditional LEO.

As such, is it too much to ask that the agents were putting on the steeet have adequate training, commensurate with the screening and academy training traditional LEO received for the jobs they're being asked to do?


ICE agents are trained. Many are also ex military and ex police.

These are purely apolitical questions. Shouldn't local and state leaders cooperate with federal agents when enforcing federal law?

Shouldn't local and state leaders be held legally accountable when knowingly aiding those breaking federal laws?

Shouldn't local police help federal officers when enforcing federal laws in local jurisdictions? If not, why not?

As such, is it too much to ask that local and state leaders follow federal laws and cooperate with federal agents?

As such, is it too much to ask for leaders not to demonize federal agents simply for doing their jobs and enforcing the law?

As such, is it too much to ask for local police to work with federal agents in enforcing the law?

All deflections. I'll come back to those.

The answer is simply "No, it's not too much to ask."

It's been widely reported that agent training has been often abbreviated to accommodate the aggressive enforcement ramp-up, and it's obvious seeing the way many incidents have arisen and transpired that many agents aren't adequately trained. That's a fixable problem.

Yes everyone from the president on down should follow applicable laws including and especially the Constitution. And when they don't there are channels to check illegal behavior.

As far as buying-in from local officials? No, you're not going to get that at least not on scale until Trump stops clearly targeting certain cities based on their political leanings and ICE tactics stop resembling masked goon squads that roam from city harassing people with no probable cause other than looking foreign or talking with an accent, and in some cases beating and killing people, including Americans.

Especially since these tactics quite possibly violate the 4th and run so counter to the manner in which Trump said they would when he got elected.

Police and military frequently undertake active efforts to engage in the community and earn the trust of community residents in the areas they patrol or occupy. That process sometimes takes years and in the best case scenario is still often challenging and fraught despite best efforts.

It is wildly unrealistic to think that ICE will enjoy the support of local governments or residents when their engagement in the community looks like it does. There is a less than zero chance that happens, and why would it?

What has anybody in the administration on down to the agents that are on the streets done to earn the respect and trust of the community?

Masked agents roaming streets, profiling people to see what brown person or person with an accent they should snatch and throw in their van next are never going to enjoy the support of local governments or residents. Who in the world would think they would or should?

Other than Steven Miller, of course.


All bull**** propaganda.

Why do you support democrat local and state leaders releasing criminals into the streets with ICE detainers? Trump and ICE are targeting liberal cities for additional manpower because your people are not honoring the detainers. It's pretty simple cause and effect.

Why do you encourage this? Why do you say that ICE is roaming the streets looking for people who speak a certain way or look a way without giving context? Why do you say ICE is roaming the streets beating and killing people without giving context? Do you even realize what a piece of **** ******* you are saying untruthful things like that?

I truly hope you need law enforcement help one day and it doesn't come.


LOL @ "releasing criminals into the streets" Dang, sounds scary. But according to who? DHS/ICE? Your problem now is nobody believes anything they say because they've spent months firehosing us all down with lies. Nobody trusts Kristi Noem or DHS or this Administration's information at this point and that is a problem totally of their own creation.

Someone being held for whom there is no PC they committed a crime isn't a "criminal."

Local and state police have never routinely enforced federal immigration law. This isn't new, and it's both jurisdictional and intentional. Local and state cops don't have jurisdiction, and our communities are less safe when city occupants don't trust and fear calling the cops.

Courts have ruled detainers aren't legal warrants. Holding someone without PC isn't constitutional.

I support local officials handling their business lawfully. If local and state officials are behaving unlawfully, take them to court and force them to comply. If they're not, and you want them to handle business differently, change the law.

Train the masked mall cops better.

Stop acting like goons. Take the masks off. Engage positively in the community so residents see something other than masked enforcement.

Stop randomly harassing people without any probable cause other than the way they look or talk.

Stop asking for papers without any probable cause.

Stop shooting people in the face three times on video because you're mad they're fleeing.

You can't have it both ways. Trump and Stephen Miller like the optics of the masked goons roaming the streets in tactical gear, harassing, and intimidating Americans and sometimes worse. They think it's good for their brand. They chose that approach even though there are far less divisive tactics that could be used. That has very obvious downsides, and you're seeing those play out.

Don't make your bed a certain way and cry about having to lay down in it.
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Lying propagandist,

Remember your words when Trump invokes the Insurrection Act.

I expect you to be the hypocrite you are when he does though.

FAFO, snowflake.
packgrad
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Look at Civ's people. And they're wearing masks too. Typical.

hokiewolf
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Oldsouljer said:

packgrad said:

Oh no. Lefties are going to have to get their Denmark flags soon. Trump has been superb for the flag economy.



Sooner or later, Denmark will realize that their government-provided everything will cause them to run out of money, and they'll gladly accept a U.S. cash infusion to keep their socialist scam going a little longer.
Why exactly does the US need to seize Greenland? Are there not better ways to spend $500-$700B (what I've seen as the minimum to "purchase" Greenland?

If this happens, I don't want to hear from anyone on this site ever again about government spending and deficits.
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packgrad
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Civ's people committing felonies.... he's fine with it though because "MASKS!!! TRUMP!!! STEPHEN MILLER!!!! Argh!!!"

Werewolf
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Spot on, well summarized.
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