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s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior
#Sieve, do You mean like this?
I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.
Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.
This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.
No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.
What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?
My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!
As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…
John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.
Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.
Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.
Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…
Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.
I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.
We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.
Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.
i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.
Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.
And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.
I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…
I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.
The problem is that the people most likely to say things like that are the ones who usually act the least Christ-like in public. The Water Cooler is a perfect example... this place is packed to the ceiling with vile contempt. Could you imagine Jesus hanging out here trashing "trannies" and feasting on librul tears? Could you imagine Jesus as a Fox News guest talking about how amazing Trump is? Obviously the idea is laughable to most people.
So what's a "MAGA Christian" to do when "but that doesn't count, we're all sinners!" stops working to justify the increasingly cartoonish hypocrisy? A "Charlie Kirk revival"!!! Just focus that "own the libs" energy, harness an arsenal of debate tricks, and presto! Now empathy is a sin and retribution is a virtue! Jesus was MAGA after all, we were just reading the bible all wrong! Full steam ahead with the "Christian" revolution!
The left hates religion. You trying to guilt trip others using religion is laughable.
Peddle your BS somewhere else.
I like how you just edited your "send them all to the ovens!" comment. Let me guess, you're a "Christian", too?
Smapty…. Come on now…. You can be better, right?
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
I literally just told you that Gulf's first thought, after seeing a video of people having fun at a trans-themed restaurant in the Philippines, was that we should "send them all to the ovens". And your only response is "Smapty, you can be better, right?" Lol, really?
You would think that a person who was literally just wearing their Christianity on their sleeve five minutes ago might stop for a second and say "Oh wow. Damn Gulf, that was a completely psychotic thing to say about anyone. You can be better, right?" But nope! Didn't even occur to you! Or you simply have no interest in channeling your "John 8" energy when one of your own is spewing vile crap that aligns with your goals.
You guys are in a dark place, man. You can be better, right?
Smapty, my back and forth has been with you, right?
Regarding Gulf's post…. Well, I didn't initially read it. So, I just did. Specifically, what's wrong with his post? Let's debate it…
"The left hates religion"
That is his opinion. Is it true?
"you're trying to guilt trip others using religion is laughable"
were you trying to do that?
"Peddle your BS somewhere else"
ok, perhaps that could have been said differently; however, don't hold him to a standard you're not willing to do yourself.
