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Werewolf
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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
wolf howl
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If he's supporting the government forcibly injecting an untested poison to keep your job you can bet the house he'd support mandating every person in the country sign up for ACA or have their own insurance.
Werewolf
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The algorithm that rigged the Census.
https://amuseonx.substack.com/p/the-algorithm-that-rigged-the-census
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Werewolf
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I'll put this here since most don't look at anything on the NWO-WEF thread.
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SmaptyWolf
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caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Might be trans, but not wrong.



Yeah, bullsh**. Republicans have worked to ratfu** the ACA every step of the way, and completely removed one of the three legs of the stool, the mandates, which was key to widening the risk pool and making the affordability math work. Since then the ACA has been limping along with subsidies. Biden's expanded subsidies barely scraped through with the "help" of Joe Manchin, who was a massive tool who insisted that they not be permanent. So here we are.

Let's put aside the merits of funding the ACA, for a moment…

did you support the concept of government compelling a person to buy something?

The ACA mandate didn't apply to anyone who couldn't afford it, and there were a bunch of other loopholes, but no, it wouldn't have been my first choice. Single payer would have been a lot better... and somehow Americans can deal with taxes a lot better than "OMG being forced to buy something".

But despite the MAGA fan fiction Obama was almost pathologically bipartisan. He could have rammed through single payer, but he mistakenly thought Republicans would embrace their own "free market" health care idea more. So he took RomneyCare, rebranded it, and voila! The mandates were a Republican idea, because it's the only way to make risk pools work while keeping existing insurance company middlemen intact. Of course Republicans rejoiced! Just kidding... by sundown their own health care plan became Marxism.

Anyway, I take it you want to go back to "the good ol days"?
  • Health care costs spiraling to oblivion even faster
  • Being denied health insurance at all for an ever growing list of preexisting conditions
  • Being dumped from your insurance the second you get sick, generally being forced to declare bankruptcy while dealing with cancer
Of course you do.

Between gutting the expanded ACA subsidies and trashing Medicaid in general, all Republicans have managed to accomplish is dramatically increasing the number of people who will now use the emergency room as their primary care doctor. Great work!
hokiewolf
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Nicely done DOGE

packgrad
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hokiewolf said:

Nicely done DOGE



Yeah, a grant would have prevented a typhoon!! Project wouldn't have even started yet either. But yeah, lets spread some propaganda and get some attention!!!!


I'm sure civ will be along shortly to scold you for gaslighting.
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Might be trans, but not wrong.



Yeah, bullsh**. Republicans have worked to ratfu** the ACA every step of the way, and completely removed one of the three legs of the stool, the mandates, which was key to widening the risk pool and making the affordability math work. Since then the ACA has been limping along with subsidies. Biden's expanded subsidies barely scraped through with the "help" of Joe Manchin, who was a massive tool who insisted that they not be permanent. So here we are.

Let's put aside the merits of funding the ACA, for a moment…

did you support the concept of government compelling a person to buy something?

The ACA mandate didn't apply to anyone who couldn't afford it, and there were a bunch of other loopholes, but no, it wouldn't have been my first choice. Single payer would have been a lot better... and somehow Americans can deal with taxes a lot better than "OMG being forced to buy something".

But despite the MAGA fan fiction Obama was almost pathologically bipartisan. He could have rammed through single payer, but he mistakenly thought Republicans would embrace their own "free market" health care idea more. So he took RomneyCare, rebranded it, and voila! The mandates were a Republican idea, because it's the only way to make risk pools work while keeping existing insurance company middlemen intact. Of course Republicans rejoiced! Just kidding... by sundown their own health care plan became Marxism.

Anyway, I take it you want to go back to "the good ol days"?
  • Health care costs spiraling to oblivion even faster
  • Being denied health insurance at all for an ever growing list of preexisting conditions
  • Being dumped from your insurance the second you get sick, generally being forced to declare bankruptcy while dealing with cancer
Of course you do.

Between gutting the expanded ACA subsidies and trashing Medicaid in general, all Republicans have managed to accomplish is dramatically increasing the number of people who will now use the emergency room as their primary care doctor. Great work!


I think the mandate was for anyone not insured. If you couldn't afford Insurance, you received it for free and on the backs of taxpayers.

RomneyCare was a joke, just like ObamaCare. I don't remember hearing anyone supporting RomneyCare when they learned about it, except big government ideologues...

Now, I'm not opposed to some simple laws managing how Insurance Providers operate. What they are? I'm not sure. Personally, I'd like to see a complete overhaul of all laws governing Insurance and start over with something simple.

Single payer doesn't work anywhere, unless you dont spend money on other things, like Military. For all these great country's you will call out, I bet they damn near completely rely on the US for defense.

Smapty, is health insurance a right? If so, how does a person get that right?

Understand, I am separating Health Insurance from Health Care as they are two different things. One is a means of performing a service for sickness and the other is a payment method. Don't conflate the two...

wolf howl
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hokiewolf said:

Nicely done DOGE



I've got zero insight into what this is but knowing enough about contracts, $20M ain't even going to touch stopping that flooding.
wolf howl
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I'm all for overhauling healthcare in this country, without the mandates. Everyone should have a choice.

I think it has to start with diving into for profit health care providers, big pharma and others to understand why costs are out of control, but only in the US. A drug here should cost the same as the exact same thing in Mexico. American's should not be subsidizing the worlds healthcare, which it certainly feels that way when you look at those things as apples to apples.
hokiewolf
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I agree, but it's not a great look
Werewolf
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wolf howl said:

hokiewolf said:

Nicely done DOGE



I've got zero insight into what this is but knowing enough about contracts, $20M ain't even going to touch stopping that flooding.


LOL, u are on it . You can't build much of anything for $20M with today's dolla'.

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Werewolf
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You and your TDS outrage, LOL. Tariffs!!! And paying military, outrage....blah blah blah
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hokiewolf
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Canceling a flood control project for DEI reasons and then the area has a typhoon hit it is not a great look. That's all I'm saying.

Are the positive Trump posts I've had the last few days also TDS? Or do you just ignore them to have a straw man?

I'm fine with paying the military, the doesn't change my position on tariffs. I'm even good with the layoffs. Keep shrinking the government. Just be smart about it.
Werewolf
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#daGobbler, I trust the Trump administration so I have no doubts about the decision. The millions and millions of dollars pissed away by politicians and pet "I got my constituents money is off the charts. I've watched it and been a part of the process for 40+ years.....But you go ahead....it gives me something to chuckle at.

I can't build a headworks in Florida for $20M. A project we have was estimated at $500M five years ago ....now it's $1B.
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SmaptyWolf
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caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Might be trans, but not wrong.



Yeah, bullsh**. Republicans have worked to ratfu** the ACA every step of the way, and completely removed one of the three legs of the stool, the mandates, which was key to widening the risk pool and making the affordability math work. Since then the ACA has been limping along with subsidies. Biden's expanded subsidies barely scraped through with the "help" of Joe Manchin, who was a massive tool who insisted that they not be permanent. So here we are.

Let's put aside the merits of funding the ACA, for a moment…

did you support the concept of government compelling a person to buy something?

The ACA mandate didn't apply to anyone who couldn't afford it, and there were a bunch of other loopholes, but no, it wouldn't have been my first choice. Single payer would have been a lot better... and somehow Americans can deal with taxes a lot better than "OMG being forced to buy something".

But despite the MAGA fan fiction Obama was almost pathologically bipartisan. He could have rammed through single payer, but he mistakenly thought Republicans would embrace their own "free market" health care idea more. So he took RomneyCare, rebranded it, and voila! The mandates were a Republican idea, because it's the only way to make risk pools work while keeping existing insurance company middlemen intact. Of course Republicans rejoiced! Just kidding... by sundown their own health care plan became Marxism.

Anyway, I take it you want to go back to "the good ol days"?
  • Health care costs spiraling to oblivion even faster
  • Being denied health insurance at all for an ever growing list of preexisting conditions
  • Being dumped from your insurance the second you get sick, generally being forced to declare bankruptcy while dealing with cancer
Of course you do.

Between gutting the expanded ACA subsidies and trashing Medicaid in general, all Republicans have managed to accomplish is dramatically increasing the number of people who will now use the emergency room as their primary care doctor. Great work!


I think the mandate was for anyone not insured. If you couldn't afford Insurance, you received it for free and on the backs of taxpayers.

RomneyCare was a joke, just like ObamaCare. I don't remember hearing anyone supporting RomneyCare when they learned about it, except big government ideologues...

Now, I'm not opposed to some simple laws managing how Insurance Providers operate. What they are? I'm not sure. Personally, I'd like to see a complete overhaul of all laws governing Insurance and start over with something simple.

Single payer doesn't work anywhere, unless you dont spend money on other things, like Military. For all these great country's you will call out, I bet they damn near completely rely on the US for defense.

Smapty, is health insurance a right? If so, how does a person get that right?

Understand, I am separating Health Insurance from Health Care as they are two different things. One is a means of performing a service for sickness and the other is a payment method. Don't conflate the two...

The "joke" was the years of "repeal and replace" nonsense you guys tried after ObamaCare. You never could figure out the "replace" part, because affordable health care isn't simple.

There still is no Republican plan, outside of hoping that a sizeable percentage of the population will be fine watching their kids die with no access to health care and then not eventually revolt and shove your fat heads through a guillotine. Looks like MAGA has decided to take their chances with that "plan". Good luck!
caryking
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Might be trans, but not wrong.



Yeah, bullsh**. Republicans have worked to ratfu** the ACA every step of the way, and completely removed one of the three legs of the stool, the mandates, which was key to widening the risk pool and making the affordability math work. Since then the ACA has been limping along with subsidies. Biden's expanded subsidies barely scraped through with the "help" of Joe Manchin, who was a massive tool who insisted that they not be permanent. So here we are.

Let's put aside the merits of funding the ACA, for a moment…

did you support the concept of government compelling a person to buy something?

The ACA mandate didn't apply to anyone who couldn't afford it, and there were a bunch of other loopholes, but no, it wouldn't have been my first choice. Single payer would have been a lot better... and somehow Americans can deal with taxes a lot better than "OMG being forced to buy something".

But despite the MAGA fan fiction Obama was almost pathologically bipartisan. He could have rammed through single payer, but he mistakenly thought Republicans would embrace their own "free market" health care idea more. So he took RomneyCare, rebranded it, and voila! The mandates were a Republican idea, because it's the only way to make risk pools work while keeping existing insurance company middlemen intact. Of course Republicans rejoiced! Just kidding... by sundown their own health care plan became Marxism.

Anyway, I take it you want to go back to "the good ol days"?
  • Health care costs spiraling to oblivion even faster
  • Being denied health insurance at all for an ever growing list of preexisting conditions
  • Being dumped from your insurance the second you get sick, generally being forced to declare bankruptcy while dealing with cancer
Of course you do.

Between gutting the expanded ACA subsidies and trashing Medicaid in general, all Republicans have managed to accomplish is dramatically increasing the number of people who will now use the emergency room as their primary care doctor. Great work!


I think the mandate was for anyone not insured. If you couldn't afford Insurance, you received it for free and on the backs of taxpayers.

RomneyCare was a joke, just like ObamaCare. I don't remember hearing anyone supporting RomneyCare when they learned about it, except big government ideologues...

Now, I'm not opposed to some simple laws managing how Insurance Providers operate. What they are? I'm not sure. Personally, I'd like to see a complete overhaul of all laws governing Insurance and start over with something simple.

Single payer doesn't work anywhere, unless you dont spend money on other things, like Military. For all these great country's you will call out, I bet they damn near completely rely on the US for defense.

Smapty, is health insurance a right? If so, how does a person get that right?

Understand, I am separating Health Insurance from Health Care as they are two different things. One is a means of performing a service for sickness and the other is a payment method. Don't conflate the two...

The "joke" was the years of "repeal and replace" nonsense you guys tried after ObamaCare. You never could figure out the "replace" part, because affordable health care isn't simple.

There still is no Republican plan, outside of hoping that a sizeable percentage of the population will be fine watching their kids die with no access to health care and then not eventually revolt and shove your fat heads through a guillotine. Looks like MAGA has decided to take their chances with that "plan". Good luck!

Exaggerate much?
packgrad
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Let's go.

Oldsouljer
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packgrad said:

Let's go.



NC-01 isn't just getting struck down, but redrawn. Most likely, the GA will swap out Edgecombe County for Dare County.
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SmaptyWolf
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caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Might be trans, but not wrong.



Yeah, bullsh**. Republicans have worked to ratfu** the ACA every step of the way, and completely removed one of the three legs of the stool, the mandates, which was key to widening the risk pool and making the affordability math work. Since then the ACA has been limping along with subsidies. Biden's expanded subsidies barely scraped through with the "help" of Joe Manchin, who was a massive tool who insisted that they not be permanent. So here we are.

Let's put aside the merits of funding the ACA, for a moment…

did you support the concept of government compelling a person to buy something?

The ACA mandate didn't apply to anyone who couldn't afford it, and there were a bunch of other loopholes, but no, it wouldn't have been my first choice. Single payer would have been a lot better... and somehow Americans can deal with taxes a lot better than "OMG being forced to buy something".

But despite the MAGA fan fiction Obama was almost pathologically bipartisan. He could have rammed through single payer, but he mistakenly thought Republicans would embrace their own "free market" health care idea more. So he took RomneyCare, rebranded it, and voila! The mandates were a Republican idea, because it's the only way to make risk pools work while keeping existing insurance company middlemen intact. Of course Republicans rejoiced! Just kidding... by sundown their own health care plan became Marxism.

Anyway, I take it you want to go back to "the good ol days"?
  • Health care costs spiraling to oblivion even faster
  • Being denied health insurance at all for an ever growing list of preexisting conditions
  • Being dumped from your insurance the second you get sick, generally being forced to declare bankruptcy while dealing with cancer
Of course you do.

Between gutting the expanded ACA subsidies and trashing Medicaid in general, all Republicans have managed to accomplish is dramatically increasing the number of people who will now use the emergency room as their primary care doctor. Great work!


I think the mandate was for anyone not insured. If you couldn't afford Insurance, you received it for free and on the backs of taxpayers.

RomneyCare was a joke, just like ObamaCare. I don't remember hearing anyone supporting RomneyCare when they learned about it, except big government ideologues...

Now, I'm not opposed to some simple laws managing how Insurance Providers operate. What they are? I'm not sure. Personally, I'd like to see a complete overhaul of all laws governing Insurance and start over with something simple.

Single payer doesn't work anywhere, unless you dont spend money on other things, like Military. For all these great country's you will call out, I bet they damn near completely rely on the US for defense.

Smapty, is health insurance a right? If so, how does a person get that right?

Understand, I am separating Health Insurance from Health Care as they are two different things. One is a means of performing a service for sickness and the other is a payment method. Don't conflate the two...

The "joke" was the years of "repeal and replace" nonsense you guys tried after ObamaCare. You never could figure out the "replace" part, because affordable health care isn't simple.

There still is no Republican plan, outside of hoping that a sizeable percentage of the population will be fine watching their kids die with no access to health care and then not eventually revolt and shove your fat heads through a guillotine. Looks like MAGA has decided to take their chances with that "plan". Good luck!

Exaggerate much?

Nope! Oh, that's right... your plan is to have everyone that used to be on Medicaid just use the emergency room for their health care. I bet that'll work great and won't collapse the system at all!

You've clearly thought this through.
hokiewolf
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No kidding. It's this hyperbole that solves nothing with respect to healthcare. Saying that is saying "I don't want to fix it"
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