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In reply to Civilized • 2:14p
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3932

I have no problem bringing receipts. You can just look at the poll results and see the Dems ENTIRE message is "Trump is bad" and their voters fall right in line. Guarantee they can ask Dem voters if peace in Israel is good or not now that Trump made it happen and 90% would say it's awful. Brainwashed to the max.

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In reply to hokiewolf • 2:26p
hokiewolf said:
This is the future of the Democratic Party. It's not on the fringe my friend.


What is the future?

A mayoral candidate that wins after hammering home an affordability message in an outrageously expensive city, while running against a weak field where his biggest comp was a disgraced former governor who flamed out spectacularly because he was a serial sex harasser?

Seems like a massive extrapolation from a sample of one that has a lot of asterisks in it, doesn't it?

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In reply to Civilized • 2:51p
Sounds like #daSieve is pulling the lever for Curtis's Way if residing in #Nappy's utopia....
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In reply to wolf howl • 2:52p
wolf howl said:
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3932

I have no problem bringing receipts. You can just look at the poll results and see the Dems ENTIRE message is "Trump is bad" and their voters fall right in line. Guarantee they can ask Dem voters if peace in Israel is good or not now that Trump made it happen and 90% would say it's awful. Brainwashed to the max.



LOL @ "receipts."

Yeah this poll doesn't show what you say it does.

You said Americans don't agree with Democrats on issues and then produced a poll that doesn't show that at all. This is just a party satisfaction poll.

Hell, Democrats are really unhappy with the Democratic party right now because they feel like it lacks direction, coherent messaging, hasn't served as a sufficient counter to Trump's lunacy, etc.

That doesn't mean Democrats disagree with party positions on issues. Lots of moderates agree with Dems too.

It's pretty straightforward. Say what issues specifically Americans disagree with Dems on, and then produce the polls that ask Americans what their positions are on those issues.

Around 60% of Americans say abortion should be legal in most cases
The same percentage think we should increase taxes on the rich
65% of Americans support the ACA
61% disapprove of Trump tariffs on imports
Over 70% support nondiscrimination laws for LGBTQ folks, around the same or slightly less for gay marriage protections
65%-70% support weed legalization or at least decriminalization
The majority of Americans support criminal justice reform like lowering incarceration rates for petty crimes, blind sentencing, and other practical-sense measures

I could keep listing, but you get the point. Or maybe you don't still but what you're saying isn't supported by the data that's out there.
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In reply to Civilized • 3:09p
Civilized said:
caryking said:
Civilized said:
hokiewolf said:


Because - the left obviously struggling to compliment Trump in any way aside - most of the sliver of the left that was unabashedly "pro-Palestinian civilian," or "anti-genocide," are as much or even moreso objecting to the "oppressor" Israel and not the particulars of the war itself.

This is just another opportunity for some in that sliver of the left to lean into the oppressed-oppressor framing that they historically find much too comfortable.

The Jews, meanwhile, continue living in the awful purgatory of being considered not nearly white enough by the far right and much too white by the far left.

It's a ridiculous framing that's been used for eons, disproportionately towards Israel and Jewish people.



Civ, are you Jewish?


Negative. Grew up in Methodist and Presbyterian churches.

So, Jewish on your father's side, then?
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In reply to Civilized • 3:24p
Civilized said:
hokiewolf said:
This is the future of the Democratic Party. It's not on the fringe my friend.


What is the future?

A mayoral candidate that wins after hammering home an affordability message in an outrageously expensive city, while running against a weak field where his biggest comp was a disgraced former governor who flamed out spectacularly because he was a serial sex harasser?

Seems like a massive extrapolation from a sample of one that has a lot of asterisks in it, doesn't it?


You think THAT is why Cuomo won't win? Probably has a little more to do with sending grandma and grandpa to their death during the covid hoax but sure.

Would you vote for the Socialist mayor Civ? (I hesitate to even call him a democrat honestly as Dems sound sane compared to him)
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In reply to wolf howl • 4:04p
It's a NYC squeaker and essentially all tied up w Sliwa up by a single vote.

Sliwa - 1,200,302
Cuomo - 1,200,300
Mandami 1,200,301

#Sieve has relocated to NYC. Whom will #Sieve vote for....inquiring minds want to know.
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5:21p
A little bit of a hint. The Closing Act.


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In reply to Werewolf • 5:23p
Werewolf said:
It's a NYC squeaker and essentially all tied up w Sliwa up by a single vote.

Sliwa - 1,200,302
Cuomo - 1,200,300
Mandami 1,200,301

#Sieve has relocated to NYC. Whom will #Sieve vote for....inquiring minds want to know.

Lmfao no.
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5:35p
Wanna see how Trump treats a FRENEMY? Watch four 10-15 sec clips as he recognizes Germany, Hungary, Italy and UK.
Q: Why?
A: Interference in 2016, 2020 & 2024 elections by the UK RoyalCrown/MI-6 and #Gobbler's favorite City of London central bankers.
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5:47p
Well that took 5 minutes.

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-donald-trump-threatens-to-disarm-hamas-quickly-and-perhaps-violently-israel-ceasefire-wobbles/
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5:53p
I know some people that will be doing this...

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5:56p
How much sense does this make? Makes perfect sense to #Sieve & #Nappy, but how about others here?

#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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In reply to Oldsouljer • 5:59p
Oldsouljer said:
Civilized said:
caryking said:
Civilized said:
hokiewolf said:


Because - the left obviously struggling to compliment Trump in any way aside - most of the sliver of the left that was unabashedly "pro-Palestinian civilian," or "anti-genocide," are as much or even moreso objecting to the "oppressor" Israel and not the particulars of the war itself.

This is just another opportunity for some in that sliver of the left to lean into the oppressed-oppressor framing that they historically find much too comfortable.

The Jews, meanwhile, continue living in the awful purgatory of being considered not nearly white enough by the far right and much too white by the far left.

It's a ridiculous framing that's been used for eons, disproportionately towards Israel and Jewish people.



Civ, are you Jewish?


Negative. Grew up in Methodist and Presbyterian churches.

So, Jewish on your father's side, then?

No Jews anywhere in my family, but why does that matter?
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In reply to wolf howl • 6:04p
wolf howl said:
Civilized said:
hokiewolf said:
This is the future of the Democratic Party. It's not on the fringe my friend.


What is the future?

A mayoral candidate that wins after hammering home an affordability message in an outrageously expensive city, while running against a weak field where his biggest comp was a disgraced former governor who flamed out spectacularly because he was a serial sex harasser?

Seems like a massive extrapolation from a sample of one that has a lot of asterisks in it, doesn't it?


You think THAT is why Cuomo won't win? Probably has a little more to do with sending grandma and grandpa to their death during the covid hoax but sure.

Would you vote for the Socialist mayor Civ? (I hesitate to even call him a democrat honestly as Dems sound sane compared to him)

Yeah the sex harassment was the precipitating event and more salacious and but the COVID mismanagement and potential coverup was awful too.

We agree Cuomo is a terrible candidate and that's my point.

That NYC mayoral race is far from typical from a candidate standpoint.
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In reply to Civilized • 6:16p
Would you vote for the Socialist mayor Civ? (I hesitate to even call him a democrat honestly as Dems sound sane compared to him)
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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In reply to Oldsouljer • 7:11p
Oldsouljer said:
Turns out that Letitia James' kin gal that she's letting stay at that disputed Virginia "primary residence", has an outstanding arrest warrant issued right here in NC.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/letitia-james-fugitive-niece-has-been-ducking-justice-disputed-primary-residence

To quote those famous "philosophers" Darryl Hall and John Oates:

SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!

The lawlessness must run in the family. LOLOLOLOL
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In reply to Civilized • 7:16p
Civilized said:
caryking said:
Civilized said:
hokiewolf said:


Because - the left obviously struggling to compliment Trump in any way aside - most of the sliver of the left that was unabashedly "pro-Palestinian civilian," or "anti-genocide," are as much or even moreso objecting to the "oppressor" Israel and not the particulars of the war itself.

This is just another opportunity for some in that sliver of the left to lean into the oppressed-oppressor framing that they historically find much too comfortable.

The Jews, meanwhile, continue living in the awful purgatory of being considered not nearly white enough by the far right and much too white by the far left.

It's a ridiculous framing that's been used for eons, disproportionately towards Israel and Jewish people.



Civ, are you Jewish?


Negative. Grew up in Methodist and Presbyterian churches.

Well, that actually explains your views…
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In reply to Oldsouljer • 7:17p
Oldsouljer said:
Civilized said:
caryking said:
Civilized said:
hokiewolf said:


Because - the left obviously struggling to compliment Trump in any way aside - most of the sliver of the left that was unabashedly "pro-Palestinian civilian," or "anti-genocide," are as much or even moreso objecting to the "oppressor" Israel and not the particulars of the war itself.

This is just another opportunity for some in that sliver of the left to lean into the oppressed-oppressor framing that they historically find much too comfortable.

The Jews, meanwhile, continue living in the awful purgatory of being considered not nearly white enough by the far right and much too white by the far left.

It's a ridiculous framing that's been used for eons, disproportionately towards Israel and Jewish people.



Civ, are you Jewish?


Negative. Grew up in Methodist and Presbyterian churches.

So, Jewish on your father's side, then?

LOL
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#Sieve's side won't win many elections in the future outside of maybe AOC and Mamdani in NY.
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#Sieve, if you reside in NYC, who are you voting for? Sliwa or Mamdani?
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In reply to Werewolf • 7:52p
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Kill every last one of em'!


Awesomeness
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In reply to Werewolf • 7:58p
Werewolf said:
#Sieve, if you reside in NYC, who are you voting for? Sliwa or Mamdani?

Thanks for your input Chest Hair Guy. Now take your dumb ass back to Staten Island.
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In reply to Civilized • 9:00p
Civilized said:
Oldsouljer said:
Civilized said:
caryking said:
Civilized said:
hokiewolf said:


Because - the left obviously struggling to compliment Trump in any way aside - most of the sliver of the left that was unabashedly "pro-Palestinian civilian," or "anti-genocide," are as much or even moreso objecting to the "oppressor" Israel and not the particulars of the war itself.

This is just another opportunity for some in that sliver of the left to lean into the oppressed-oppressor framing that they historically find much too comfortable.

The Jews, meanwhile, continue living in the awful purgatory of being considered not nearly white enough by the far right and much too white by the far left.

It's a ridiculous framing that's been used for eons, disproportionately towards Israel and Jewish people.



Civ, are you Jewish?


Negative. Grew up in Methodist and Presbyterian churches.

So, Jewish on your father's side, then?

No Jews anywhere in my family, but why does that matter?

A jest. Unless you're Jewish by matrilineal descent, you're not Jewish, at least on the religious side of the equation.
CALS grad

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