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In reply to hokiewolf • 6:07a, 9/17/25
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You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 6:13a, 9/17/25
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hokiewolf said:


You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…


The Consevatives need more people like the poster who threatens legal action against people who talk smack on a message board like a dog needs more fleas!

I'm guessing living rent free like Trump does in his head makes him feel good since he has his entire life!

The left has FA now it's their FO moment!
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 7:34a, 9/17/25
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hokiewolf said:


You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…

Nobody cares if he embraces it.

Nobody definitely cares whether or not he likes it.

It's not his job to embrace it or like it. It is his job to uphold the constitution, and that means even protecting speech that he doesn't like.

And I'm sorry but he owns *some* responsibility for his actions that get called into question this way. He is VERY CLEARLY not Hitler, nobody is.

But you simply cannot ask people to brush off and disregard how very alarming it is for hundreds of millions of people around the world to see his fawning attitude towards murderous oligarchs; his clear autocratic tendencies; his clear Narcissism; his years-long assault on our electoral system; and his encouraging a riot intended to disrupt the certification of a free and fair election that he lost.

American Presidents simply do not do that. They have never done that. It is gaslighting to act like those behaviors aren't unheard of historically or that they don't feel jarring and completely un-American. That is never who we have been on the world stage, not for over 200 years.

They scare people, and that's not some crazy reaction. He behaves far more like an autocrat than any past American president and it's not even close.

So does crying wolf help? No, but we can't act like he's a sheep getting called a wolf.

He ain't acting like Gandhi and then mystifyingly getting compared to Hitler.
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7:44a, 9/17/25
I actually agree with this. I would hope most everyone would. It's clearly destabilizing for our country to have non-citizens in it that celebrate political violence or unrest.

The devil is in the details; this does not mean that someone should get kicked out out of the country for simply expressing a political opinion, or support for ending the war in Israel, or expressing dismay at the humanitarian conditions in Ukraine or western Russia. This interpretation doesn't need to be unreasonably heavy-handed and would obviously need to be adjudicated through appropriate legal channels.

But yeah, if they're nakedly celebrating political violence, Bye Felicia.
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 8:01a, 9/17/25
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hokiewolf said:


You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…
Thats is not the point, you know this. When a democrat President was in office not too long ago, they also proposed speech codes.
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In reply to Civilized • 8:28a, 9/17/25
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:


You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…

Nobody cares if he embraces it.

Nobody definitely cares whether or not he likes it.

It's not his job to embrace it or like it. It is his job to uphold the constitution, and that means even protecting speech that he doesn't like.

And I'm sorry but he owns *some* responsibility for his actions that get called into question this way. He is VERY CLEARLY not Hitler, nobody is.

But you simply cannot ask people to brush off and disregard how very alarming it is for hundreds of millions of people around the world to see his fawning attitude towards murderous oligarchs; his clear autocratic tendencies; his clear Narcissism; his years-long assault on our electoral system; and his encouraging a riot intended to disrupt the certification of a free and fair election that he lost.

American Presidents simply do not do that. They have never done that. It is gaslighting to act like those behaviors aren't unheard of historically or that they don't feel jarring and completely un-American. That is never who we have been on the world stage, not for over 200 years.

They scare people, and that's not some crazy reaction. He behaves far more like an autocrat than any past American president and it's not even close.

So does crying wolf help? No, but we can't act like he's a sheep getting called a wolf.

He ain't acting like Gandhi and then mystifyingly getting compared to Hitler.

Personality-wise, he acts a lot like Andrew Jackson, which is a good or bad thing depending on who you ask.
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In reply to Civilized • 12:41p, 9/17/25
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:


You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…

Nobody cares if he embraces it.

Nobody definitely cares whether or not he likes it.

It's not his job to embrace it or like it. It is his job to uphold the constitution, and that means even protecting speech that he doesn't like.

And I'm sorry but he owns *some* responsibility for his actions that get called into question this way. He is VERY CLEARLY not Hitler, nobody is.

But you simply cannot ask people to brush off and disregard how very alarming it is for hundreds of millions of people around the world to see his fawning attitude towards murderous oligarchs; his clear autocratic tendencies; his clear Narcissism; his years-long assault on our electoral system; and his encouraging a riot intended to disrupt the certification of a free and fair election that he lost.

American Presidents simply do not do that. They have never done that. It is gaslighting to act like those behaviors aren't unheard of historically or that they don't feel jarring and completely un-American. That is never who we have been on the world stage, not for over 200 years.

They scare people, and that's not some crazy reaction. He behaves far more like an autocrat than any past American president and it's not even close.

So does crying wolf help? No, but we can't act like he's a sheep getting called a wolf.

He ain't acting like Gandhi and then mystifyingly getting compared to Hitler.


No sir, you own it. Your side owns it. Your hate speech just got a good man assassinated.

Civ you're a good man but a dying breed. When all the old school are gone there will be nothing left but the radicals.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 12:45p, 9/17/25
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:


You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…
Thats is not the point, you know this. When a democrat President was in office not too long ago, they also proposed speech codes.


Did anyone try to assadsinte him…twice? Was he labeled Hitler, dictator, called a Nazi day in and day out?

Heck, I felt sorry for President Biden. I disagreed with him but I never cheered for his death. Did you?
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 1:45p, 9/17/25
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:


You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…
Thats is not the point, you know this. When a democrat President was in office not too long ago, they also proposed speech codes.


Did anyone try to assadsinte him…twice? Was he labeled Hitler, dictator, called a Nazi day in and day out?

Heck, I felt sorry for President Biden. I disagreed with him but I never cheered for his death. Did you?
You should know by now that I don't cheer for anyone's death nor do I have patience for ridiculous rhetoric from both sides. Don't call people Hitler, unless they kill millions of people because of their actions, nor should we condemn 1/2 the country for extreme views that don't necessarily reflect their own values.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 2:57p, 9/17/25
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:


You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…
Thats is not the point, you know this. When a democrat President was in office not too long ago, they also proposed speech codes.


Did anyone try to assadsinte him…twice? Was he labeled Hitler, dictator, called a Nazi day in and day out?

Heck, I felt sorry for President Biden. I disagreed with him but I never cheered for his death. Did you?
You should know by now that I don't cheer for anyone's death nor do I have patience for ridiculous rhetoric from both sides. Don't call people Hitler, unless they kill millions of people because of their actions, nor should we condemn 1/2 the country for extreme views that don't necessarily reflect their own values.


Fair enough and I wasn't calling you out. Me thinks you are a pretty reasonable guy (like Civ)
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 3:14p, 9/17/25
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hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:


You're right, it's ridiculous. President Trump should embrace the comparison to Hitler, a man responsible for the deaths of 10 million people. Fascist, Nazi, dictator….etc. This kind of continuous inspirational speech could inspire the leftists radicals to try to assassinate him or others one day…

Thats is not the point, you know this. When a democrat President was in office not too long ago, they also proposed speech codes.


Did anyone try to assadsinte him…twice? Was he labeled Hitler, dictator, called a Nazi day in and day out?

Heck, I felt sorry for President Biden. I disagreed with him but I never cheered for his death. Did you?

You should know by now that I don't cheer for anyone's death nor do I have patience for ridiculous rhetoric from both sides. Don't call people Hitler, unless they kill millions of people because of their actions, nor should we condemn 1/2 the country for extreme views that don't necessarily reflect their own values.


Fair enough and I wasn't calling you out. Me thinks you are a pretty reasonable guy (like Civ)


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3:17p, 9/17/25
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 4:14p, 9/17/25
Careful, #Sieve might be in the mode of converting trannies :-)
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 4:18p, 9/17/25
No worries man, I know you weren't calling me out. It was a great discussion.
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In reply to Civilized • 5:46p, 9/17/25
I'm touring Williamsburg today, found some literary help for you guys…
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In reply to Werewolf • 5:48p, 9/17/25
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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In reply to Oldsouljer • 7:20p, 9/17/25
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I'm touring Williamsburg today, found some literary help for you guys…


EXCELLENT!! Give us the Cliff's Notes version!
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10:25p, 9/17/25
Let's go! Time for the reckoning.

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In reply to packgrad • 10:31p, 9/17/25
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Let's go! Time for the reckoning.


They must be terrifying to fascists.
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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 10:36p, 9/17/25
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packgrad said:
Let's go! Time for the reckoning.


They must be terrifying to fascists.


I'm sure you'd think that, terrorist. Trump is coming for you....
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10:40p, 9/17/25
Breaking: NY Times Releases Bombshell Report Tying Jeffrey Epstein To Obama, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Rockefellers, the Pritzker Family & More!

While the Democrats and their Mockingbird Media counterparts have tried to distract you with the fake Jeffrey Epstein-Trump birthday card as part of their new hoax, the NY Times released a bombshell report today detailing Epstein's relationship with JPMorgan and named several names of Epstein alleged associates including Benjamin Netanyahu, Barack Obama, the Rockefellers, the Pritzkers and more.

I put together the key bullet points from the story:

- Epstein introduced JPMorgan executives to men who would become lucrative clients such as Google co-founder Sergey Brin, and to global leaders, like Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. In 2011, Epstein granted JPMorgan's investment bankers in Israel an audience with Netanyahu. A bank spokesman said JPMorgan "neither needed nor sought Epstein's help for meetings with any government leaders."

- Epstein in the words of close friend, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, was a collector of people.

- Epstein told JPMorgan legal counsel that prominent names could vouch for his character. "Go talk to Bill Gates about me," Epstein said at one point.

- Epstein told a JPMorgan chief executive he managed money for the Rockefellers.

- A 2003 JPMorgan internal report put Epstein's net worth at about $300 million. The report, which hasn't previously been disclosed, noted that Epstein's occupation was advising wealthy individuals like Leslie H. Wexner, the billionaire operator of brands like Victoria's Secret and the Limited. However, bank documents at the time did not list any other clients.

- JPMorgan also provided financial backing for alleged Epstein co-conspirator Jean-Luc Brunel who allegedly trafficked victims via his MC2 modeling agency.

- Former JPMorgan executive Jes Staley said in a deposition that a parade of Epstein referrals included Gates, Elon Musk and Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, an Emirati billionaire, but not all became clients.

- JPMorgan also took Ghislaine Maxwell on as a client per Epstein's referral. Epstein later transferred millions of dollars into Maxwell's JPMorgan account, including $7.4 million to buy a green Sikorsky helicopter to fly people to Little Saint James.

- JPMorgan wired money from his accounts to banks in Russia and Eastern Europe, where young women were being drawn into his sex-trafficking network, according to sealed court records.

- Epstein said in an e-mail he could help push Obama into naming JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon as Treasury Secretary in Obama's administration. And also that Obama economic adviser and former Harvard President, Lawrence "Larry" Summers was friendly with Epstein.

- Staley disclosed confidential information to Epstein including that JPMorgan was working on a deal for the Pritzker family, and he detailed the bank's talks with the Federal Reserve about how to stabilize the financial system.

- Epstein urged Staley to embrace China, perhaps by moving some banking operations there. He arranged for Staley to get "a quick tutorial" about China from an Oxford-educated expert.

- In 2007, tens of millions of dollars poured into Epstein's account from billionaire Leon Black, a founder of the private-equity firm Apollo Global Management; Black, himself a JPMorgan client, said the payments were for Epstein's advice about taxes and estate planning.

#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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In reply to packgrad • 5:40a
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SmaptyWolf said:
packgrad said:
Let's go! Time for the reckoning.


They must be terrifying to fascists.


I'm sure you'd think that, terrorist. Trump is coming for you....

I've said this before…. Smapty needs to stay off discord.
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In reply to caryking • 6:16a
caryking said:
packgrad said:
SmaptyWolf said:
packgrad said:
Let's go! Time for the reckoning.


They must be terrifying to fascists.



I'm sure you'd think that, terrorist. Trump is coming for you....

I've said this before…. Smapty needs to stay off discord.


Where else is he going to find his "twinks" at?

I'm sure the losers he and his unc brethren sword fight with are always looking for new "friends" to join in with them!
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I am by no means defending Antifa, but I'm not sure what the legality is designating an American group a terrorist organization. Is there different rules? Does that mean using the Military against US citizens? I honestly don't know?
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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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I am by no means defending Antifa, but I'm not sure what the legality is designating an American group a terrorist organization. Is there different rules? Does that mean using the Military against US citizens? I honestly don't know?

It's a legit question. I'm also unsure
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In reply to caryking • 8:31a
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packgrad said:
SmaptyWolf said:
packgrad said:
Let's go! Time for the reckoning.


They must be terrifying to fascists.


I'm sure you'd think that, terrorist. Trump is coming for you....

I've said this before…. Smapty needs to stay off discord.

Yeah, if he became disappeared because he was FA with discord, we'd really miss him around here. Well, a little. Maybe.
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I am by no means defending Antifa, but I'm not sure what the legality is designating an American group a terrorist organization. Is there different rules? Does that mean using the Military against US citizens? I honestly don't know?

That, and the fact that it's not even a group. It's the liberal boogeyman. It has no structure. No hierarchy. No leader. No meetings.

It's optics. It's Trump wanting to seem like he's cracking down on rad-libs.

The KKK isn't even a designated terror organization. That tells you all you need to know.

This is no different than trying to characterize Anonymous as a terror organization.

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Been paying attention?
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This will put some teeth into the national guard and military when Deep State arrests start. There will be attempts to trigger a civil war. #Devolution has been implemented for several years now to avoid civil war. #Antifa and other groups will be called upon the create upheaval when the arrests begin.

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hokiewolf said:
I am by no means defending Antifa, but I'm not sure what the legality is designating an American group a terrorist organization. Is there different rules? Does that mean using the Military against US citizens? I honestly don't know?

That, and the fact that it's not even a group. It's the liberal boogeyman. It has no structure. No hierarchy. No leader. No meetings.

It's optics. It's Trump wanting to seem like he's cracking down on rad-libs.

The KKK isn't even a designated terror organization. That tells you all you need to know.

This is no different than trying to characterize Anonymous as a terror organization.


A bit of a stretch considering they're not really a factor anymore, and haven't been in half a century. Whatever remnants now exist, do nothing more than rallies…and that's well within the 1st Amendment.
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Oldsouljer said:
Civilized said:
hokiewolf said:
I am by no means defending Antifa, but I'm not sure what the legality is designating an American group a terrorist organization. Is there different rules? Does that mean using the Military against US citizens? I honestly don't know?

That, and the fact that it's not even a group. It's the liberal boogeyman. It has no structure. No hierarchy. No leader. No meetings.

It's optics. It's Trump wanting to seem like he's cracking down on rad-libs.

The KKK isn't even a designated terror organization. That tells you all you need to know.

This is no different than trying to characterize Anonymous as a terror organization.

A bit of a stretch considering they're not really a factor anymore, and haven't been in half a century. Whatever remnants now exist, do nothing more than rallies…and that's well within the 1st Amendment.

Yea, when was the last time the KKK reared its ugly head? BTW, when they were active, they were mostly Democrats, as I recall. I'll bet some Dems would love to have those days again.

Antifa may or may not have any organization; however, they have money. The naming of them being a terrorist org allows the government to do more investigative work (wire tapping, money tracing, etc…).

Antifa activist, on the streets, are nothing but a bunch of thugs. The money is driving this activity. Round them up and prosecute the money for racketeering…
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