Oldsouljer said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Civilized said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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I don't know how history will regard DJT. But much of the animus towards him has to do with the fact that he "didn't pay his dues", I.e., come up through successive levels of office, becoming corrupted, and therefore controllable, along the way. First guy since Eisenhower to go to the White House without holding prior office.

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Fascinating that given his mountain of trashy, abusive, norm-violating, Jan-6'ing, illegal behavior that you and others want to ascribe "much of the animus" towards him to some nebulous sense of him not having paid political dues.

Isn't a vastly more likely explanation for the animus towards him simply that his bad behavior warrants most of the animus?

This isn't a mellow, likable, professional chap like John Kasich suddenly becoming a pariah for reasons unclear. It's someone who behaves extraordinarily poorly and who represents the Presidency and our country in ways never before seen catching heat commensurately with his behavior.

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Not much of what you've said, logically connects to anything I said, thus I really can't respond except perhaps to say that a significant majority of the American people decided that was what should be elected. No one for or against him can claim they didn't know what they were getting in electing him.

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You know, I sometimes wonder what the liberals are like in real life while riding their high horse on the internet? What skeletons does Civ have in his closet but yet he wants to point fingers at someone.

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Well, I hope it's not actually a real skeleton.

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hokiewolf said:

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I only judge Canadians and people who reverse sear their steaks

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hokiewolf said:

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I only judge Canadians and people who reverse sear their steaks

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Civilized said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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I don't know how history will regard DJT. But much of the animus towards him has to do with the fact that he "didn't pay his dues", I.e., come up through successive levels of office, becoming corrupted, and therefore controllable, along the way. First guy since Eisenhower to go to the White House without holding prior office.

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Fascinating that given his mountain of trashy, abusive, norm-violating, Jan-6'ing, illegal behavior that you and others want to ascribe "much of the animus" towards him to some nebulous sense of him not having paid political dues.

Isn't a vastly more likely explanation for the animus towards him simply that his bad behavior warrants most of the animus?

This isn't a mellow, likable, professional chap like John Kasich suddenly becoming a pariah for reasons unclear. It's someone who behaves extraordinarily poorly and who represents the Presidency and our country in ways never before seen catching heat commensurately with his behavior.

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Not much of what you've said, logically connects to anything I said, thus I really can't respond except perhaps to say that a significant majority of the American people decided that was what should be elected. No one for or against him can claim they didn't know what they were getting in electing him.

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You know, I sometimes wonder what the liberals are like in real life while riding their high horse on the internet? What skeletons does Civ have in his closet but yet he wants to point fingers at someone.

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Well, I hope it's not actually a real skeleton.

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Haha, I don't think so but I have noticed in life people who point fingers or judge others are often times complete hypocrites.

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🚨 BREAKING: Federal agents are RIGHT NOW in John Bolton's home "going through things" following an early morning FBI RAID in the DC area over national security concerns.

Yes. We did, indeed, vote for this.

This is Bolton's primary residence.

"This deals with classified… pic.twitter.com/PmIOAxTgtA

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) August 22, 2025

Gulfstream4 said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I only judge Canadians and people who reverse sear their steaks

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Canadians with their "bacon"deserve it along with any Yankee and people who call a grill a BBQ.

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Cracker Barrel is down by 12% today and by 45% since Julie Masino was selected CEO pic.twitter.com/Wvolv6z1CV

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) August 21, 2025

Cracker Barrel CEO Julie Masino should face charges for this crime against humanity pic.twitter.com/auBFPi4bpr

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) August 21, 2025

Gulfstream4 said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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I don't know how history will regard DJT. But much of the animus towards him has to do with the fact that he "didn't pay his dues", I.e., come up through successive levels of office, becoming corrupted, and therefore controllable, along the way. First guy since Eisenhower to go to the White House without holding prior office.

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Fascinating that given his mountain of trashy, abusive, norm-violating, Jan-6'ing, illegal behavior that you and others want to ascribe "much of the animus" towards him to some nebulous sense of him not having paid political dues.

Isn't a vastly more likely explanation for the animus towards him simply that his bad behavior warrants most of the animus?

This isn't a mellow, likable, professional chap like John Kasich suddenly becoming a pariah for reasons unclear. It's someone who behaves extraordinarily poorly and who represents the Presidency and our country in ways never before seen catching heat commensurately with his behavior.

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Not much of what you've said, logically connects to anything I said, thus I really can't respond except perhaps to say that a significant majority of the American people decided that was what should be elected. No one for or against him can claim they didn't know what they were getting in electing him.

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You know, I sometimes wonder what the liberals are like in real life while riding their high horse on the internet? What skeletons does Civ have in his closet but yet he wants to point fingers at someone.

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...much of the animus towards [Trump] has to do with the fact that he "didn't pay his dues", I.e., come up through successive levels of office, becoming corrupted, and therefore controllable, along the way

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Fascinating that given his mountain of trashy, abusive, norm-violating, Jan-6'ing, illegal behavior that you and others want to ascribe "much of the animus" towards him to some nebulous sense of him not having paid political dues.

Isn't a vastly more likely explanation for the animus towards him simply that his bad behavior warrants most of the animus?

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"We have great hamburgers cooked by the White House, and we have pizza... I'll eat with you and we're going to have a little fun... then we're going to get back to work and we're going to take care of these criminals." - President Donald J. Trump 💪 pic.twitter.com/ZZozT8KOuO

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) August 22, 2025

Now that the public is talking about Epstein and Obama’s operation to get President Trump it might be a good time to ask Barack how he spent $65,000 in pizza and hot dogs.

That’s enough pizza and hotdogs to feed all of Kenya.

Unless that’s code for something else…

We know. pic.twitter.com/6ieDiiGKVs

— C3 (@C_3C_3) July 26, 2025

SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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I don't know how history will regard DJT. But much of the animus towards him has to do with the fact that he "didn't pay his dues", I.e., come up through successive levels of office, becoming corrupted, and therefore controllable, along the way. First guy since Eisenhower to go to the White House without holding prior office.

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Fascinating that given his mountain of trashy, abusive, norm-violating, Jan-6'ing, illegal behavior that you and others want to ascribe "much of the animus" towards him to some nebulous sense of him not having paid political dues.

Isn't a vastly more likely explanation for the animus towards him simply that his bad behavior warrants most of the animus?

This isn't a mellow, likable, professional chap like John Kasich suddenly becoming a pariah for reasons unclear. It's someone who behaves extraordinarily poorly and who represents the Presidency and our country in ways never before seen catching heat commensurately with his behavior.

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Not much of what you've said, logically connects to anything I said, thus I really can't respond except perhaps to say that a significant majority of the American people decided that was what should be elected. No one for or against him can claim they didn't know what they were getting in electing him.

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You know, I sometimes wonder what the liberals are like in real life while riding their high horse on the internet? What skeletons does Civ have in his closet but yet he wants to point fingers at someone.

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Well, I hope it's not actually a real skeleton.

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Haha, I don't think so but I have noticed in life people who point fingers or judge others are often times complete hypocrites.

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It's pretty hard not to judge your stunning lack of self-awareness. Literally all you perpetually persecuted snowflakes have ever done on here is point fingers and judge others. Did I mention the IPS staff won't even set foot in here? You really are the worst.

Have a nice day!

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Oldsouljer said:

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Civilized said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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I don't know how history will regard DJT. But much of the animus towards him has to do with the fact that he "didn't pay his dues", I.e., come up through successive levels of office, becoming corrupted, and therefore controllable, along the way. First guy since Eisenhower to go to the White House without holding prior office.

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Fascinating that given his mountain of trashy, abusive, norm-violating, Jan-6'ing, illegal behavior that you and others want to ascribe "much of the animus" towards him to some nebulous sense of him not having paid political dues.

Isn't a vastly more likely explanation for the animus towards him simply that his bad behavior warrants most of the animus?

This isn't a mellow, likable, professional chap like John Kasich suddenly becoming a pariah for reasons unclear. It's someone who behaves extraordinarily poorly and who represents the Presidency and our country in ways never before seen catching heat commensurately with his behavior.

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Not much of what you've said, logically connects to anything I said, thus I really can't respond except perhaps to say that a significant majority of the American people decided that was what should be elected. No one for or against him can claim they didn't know what they were getting in electing him.

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You know, I sometimes wonder what the liberals are like in real life while riding their high horse on the internet? What skeletons does Civ have in his closet but yet he wants to point fingers at someone.

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LOLOL

Y'all are being oddly sensitive about what I've said on here.

What does my closet have to do with anything I've ever said?

I've got takes on political and other leaders and their actions and inactions, as we all do.

Who exactly have I pointed fingers at on here? Are we still talking about me calling someone's take "shortsighted" or are we talking about my exchange with Souljer?

I'm never on here calling posters names or talking about them personally, or making up their views and arguing against made-up stances like many folks on here do.

I've got political takes on a political topic.

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...much of the animus towards [Trump] has to do with the fact that he "didn't pay his dues", I.e., come up through successive levels of office, becoming corrupted, and therefore controllable, along the way

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Fascinating that given his mountain of trashy, abusive, norm-violating, Jan-6'ing, illegal behavior that you and others want to ascribe "much of the animus" towards him to some nebulous sense of him not having paid political dues.

Isn't a vastly more likely explanation for the animus towards him simply that his bad behavior warrants most of the animus?

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It's a direct response to what Souljer said, and that's it. I was questioning why in the world we're looking for mystical reasons that there's animus towards Trump, when his behavior alone is obviously very sufficient explanation for the animus.

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Cthepack said:

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I only judge Canadians and people who reverse sear their steaks

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I told myself yesterday I was going to stay out of this but brining up your lack of grilling expertise needed to be pointed out.

Just because you do not know how to grill does not mean others do not. Reverse sear is a fantastic way to grill steaks.

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I don't think we should have any name calling, but you guys set the discourse here, so when you stop, I'm sure others will stop too.

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Yes, we are all aware you want to hold others to standards that you yourself don't meet.

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hokiewolf said:

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I don't think we should have any name calling, but you guys set the discourse here, so when you stop, I'm sure others will stop too.

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Yes, we are all aware you want to hold others to standards that you yourself don't meet.

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Ok, I'll say this differently. What standard would you like and I would be happy to stick to it.

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packgrad said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I don't think we should have any name calling, but you guys set the discourse here, so when you stop, I'm sure others will stop too.

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Yes, we are all aware you want to hold others to standards that you yourself don't meet.

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I don't think we should have any name calling, but you guys set the discourse here, so when you stop, I'm sure others will stop too.

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Yes, we are all aware you want to hold others to standards that you yourself don't meet.

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Yes, please, go quote all the times hokie has called people mentally ill sheep, or worse.

Show us all those times he failed to live up to the same standard he holds others to.

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I don't think we should have any name calling, but you guys set the discourse here, so when you stop, I'm sure others will stop too.

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Yes, we are all aware you want to hold others to standards that you yourself don't meet.

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Yes, please, go quote all the times hokie has called people mentally ill sheep, or worse.

Show us all those times he failed to live up to the same standard he holds others to.

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Lol. No.


That said, I think we could just use your posting history and assume that what you're saying is not true.

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What happened to the Democrats, establishment Republicans and the media hacks favorite motto of no one is above the law?

The early morning raid on the mustache has them all to pieces. They used to be big fans of federal swat teams knocking in doors and brandishing automatic weapons during early pre-dawn raids of Trump associates, accused J-6'rs or Christians who dared to pray outside an abortion clinic.

Why all of the outrage today? A federal judge had to sign off on the warrant and as Civ has pointed out many times recently using the judiciary is following the Constitution. Anyway, if Bolton didn't do anything wrong he has nothing to worry about and even if he's charged with a crime he'll get his day in court in front of a jury of his peers.

I think the funniest thing about this is that 99% of those complaining today wanted Bolton tried for war crimes in the Hague a few short years ago. It's amazing how the Democrats and the media's hatred for Trump has caused them to cozy up with Bush, Cheney and Bolton because they all share an unhinged derangement disorder when it comes to Trump.

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Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Civilized said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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I don't know how history will regard DJT. But much of the animus towards him has to do with the fact that he "didn't pay his dues", I.e., come up through successive levels of office, becoming corrupted, and therefore controllable, along the way. First guy since Eisenhower to go to the White House without holding prior office.

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Fascinating that given his mountain of trashy, abusive, norm-violating, Jan-6'ing, illegal behavior that you and others want to ascribe "much of the animus" towards him to some nebulous sense of him not having paid political dues.

Isn't a vastly more likely explanation for the animus towards him simply that his bad behavior warrants most of the animus?

This isn't a mellow, likable, professional chap like John Kasich suddenly becoming a pariah for reasons unclear. It's someone who behaves extraordinarily poorly and who represents the Presidency and our country in ways never before seen catching heat commensurately with his behavior.

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Not much of what you've said, logically connects to anything I said, thus I really can't respond except perhaps to say that a significant majority of the American people decided that was what should be elected. No one for or against him can claim they didn't know what they were getting in electing him.

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You know, I sometimes wonder what the liberals are like in real life while riding their high horse on the internet? What skeletons does Civ have in his closet but yet he wants to point fingers at someone.

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LOLOL

Y'all are being oddly sensitive about what I've said on here.

What does my closet have to do with anything I've ever said?

I've got takes on political and other leaders and their actions and inactions, as we all do.

Who exactly have I pointed fingers at on here? Are we still talking about me calling someone's take "shortsighted" or are we talking about my exchange with Souljer?

I'm never on here calling posters names or talking about them personally, or making up their views and arguing against made-up stances like many folks on here do.

I've got political takes on a political topic.

Souljer literally said...

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...much of the animus towards [Trump] has to do with the fact that he "didn't pay his dues", I.e., come up through successive levels of office, becoming corrupted, and therefore controllable, along the way

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Fascinating that given his mountain of trashy, abusive, norm-violating, Jan-6'ing, illegal behavior that you and others want to ascribe "much of the animus" towards him to some nebulous sense of him not having paid political dues.

Isn't a vastly more likely explanation for the animus towards him simply that his bad behavior warrants most of the animus?

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It's a direct response to what Souljer said, and that's it. I was questioning why in the world we're looking for mystical reasons that there's animus towards Trump, when his behavior alone is obviously very sufficient explanation for the animus.

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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The DOJ interview sessions with Ghislaine Maxwell are out. Unfortunately for the board leftists, there is no incriminating evidence concerning Trump. They promised that was the reason why he was trying to hide the Epstein stuff. They assured us that Trump was compromised by Epstein. LOLOLOLOL

There is also an audio link in the story that is linked below.

Here is what she said about Trump.

"Maxwell in the interview told Blanche that she never witnessed President Donald Trump "in any inappropriate setting" with young girls that Epstein introduced him to, and that she never saw Trump get a "massage," which prosecutors have described as a code between Epstein and Maxwell regarding sexual encounters with the girls they recruited, per Politico."

"I actually never saw the President in any type of massage setting," Maxwell said. "I never witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in any way. The President was never inappropriate with anybody. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects."


https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/doj-releases-audio-recording-and-transcript-ghislaine-maxwell-interview

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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The DOJ interview sessions with Ghislaine Maxwell are out. Unfortunately for the board leftists, there is no incriminating evidence concerning Trump. They promised that was the reason why he was trying to hide the Epstein stuff. They assured us that Trump was compromised by Epstein. LOLOLOLOL

There is also an audio link in the story that is linked below.

Here is what she said about Trump.

"Maxwell in the interview told Blanche that she never witnessed President Donald Trump "in any inappropriate setting" with young girls that Epstein introduced him to, and that she never saw Trump get a "massage," which prosecutors have described as a code between Epstein and Maxwell regarding sexual encounters with the girls they recruited, per Politico."

"I actually never saw the President in any type of massage setting," Maxwell said. "I never witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in any way. The President was never inappropriate with anybody. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects."


https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/doj-releases-audio-recording-and-transcript-ghislaine-maxwell-interview

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caryking said:

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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The DOJ interview sessions with Ghislaine Maxwell are out. Unfortunately for the board leftists, there is no incriminating evidence concerning Trump. They promised that was the reason why he was trying to hide the Epstein stuff. They assured us that Trump was compromised by Epstein. LOLOLOLOL

There is also an audio link in the story that is linked below.

Here is what she said about Trump.

"Maxwell in the interview told Blanche that she never witnessed President Donald Trump "in any inappropriate setting" with young girls that Epstein introduced him to, and that she never saw Trump get a "massage," which prosecutors have described as a code between Epstein and Maxwell regarding sexual encounters with the girls they recruited, per Politico."

"I actually never saw the President in any type of massage setting," Maxwell said. "I never witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in any way. The President was never inappropriate with anybody. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects."


https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/doj-releases-audio-recording-and-transcript-ghislaine-maxwell-interview

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Queue up the…

she's only looking for a pardon, so, she would never say anything negative about Trump.

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