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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 6:40p, 6/24/25
SmaptyWolf said:
Civilized said:
SmaptyWolf said:
Civilized said:
jkpackfan said:
hokiewolf said:
jkpackfan said:
Werewolf said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Werewolf said:


Yes I do

This would be one of the best things to happen to our country in decades. Maybe centuries.

Honestly.

No way it happens but Congressional term limits would be one of the biggest legacy-building acts conceivable for a modern president. Get those jokers out of there after 2 or 3 terms.

Agree, I think it would solve a ton of issues within DC.

Dont know how he would plan on getting it through Congress. I dont see it as a realistic outcome, but would LOVE to be wrong
I think it happens once the election integrity is addressed. I also would like to see us return to state legislatures picking each state's US Senators.
Strongly disagree there, let the people vote for their representatives.
agree with you The issue seems to be primary participation and gerrymandering from BOTH parties.
Exactly

Yeah, technically "both" but let's be clear about "both" not doing too much work here.

Quote:
Research suggests that Republicans have benefited more from gerrymandering in recent election cycles, particularly in the context of U.S. House elections

Key findings:
  • Disproportionate control: Republicans controlled the redistricting process for significantly more districts than Democrats, drawing 191 districts compared to 75 for Democrats in the 2024 election cycle.
  • Court decisions: State courts in Republican-controlled states were less likely to address partisan gerrymandering claims, while Democratic-favoring gerrymanders were more often corrected through legal challenges.
  • National impact: This has resulted in a significant advantage for Republicans in the U.S. House, estimated to be around 16 seats in the 2024 election compared to a scenario with fair maps.
  • State legislative level: Studies indicate that roughly twice as many state legislatures are gerrymandered to favor Republicans compared to those favoring Democrats.
Important to note:
  • Both parties engage in gerrymandering: While Republicans have seen a greater advantage in recent years, both parties have engaged in gerrymandering when given the opportunity.
  • Impact on elections: Gerrymandering can lead to reduced representation, increased partisan polarization, decreased voter participation, and less competitive elections.
It is important to remember that gerrymandering is a complex issue with various perspectives and consequences. The impact of gerrymandering can vary depending on the specific state and election cycle.
How to partisan, Hokie edition:

If Dems do something bad, then Dems suck.
If Trump does something bad, then Trump sucks.
If Republicans do something bad, then BOTH parties suck, nothing to see here.

Comes off that way sometimes, but pleased to extend some grace to hokie here - by all accounts a good and thoughtful dude, and he's likely tired of being accused by the group-thinkers on here of not simply being what he says he is - a right-leaning libertarian that cares much more about issues than party.

Even if he goes a little overboard with "both-sides-ing" on here from time to time.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely appreciate that Hokie is here debating actual thoughts. I guess I just give him sh** sometimes because I hold him to a higher standard than the MAGA drones linking talking points and yelling "TDS" every post.
I am absolutely both-sides-ing because both sides do it. How many actual House seats are truly up for grabs? I agree on your NC example, but let's be honest, the old 12th district was a thing of gerrymandering beauty done by the Democrats. I would also point to NY State as another example of some pretty creative gerrymandering.

It would be nice if House districts were just nice boxes that actually represented the people within those districts. I have nothing in common with folks in Chapel Hill, but I'm forced to
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In reply to Civilized • 7:23p, 6/24/25
Civilized said:
SmaptyWolf said:
Civilized said:
SmaptyWolf said:
Civilized said:
jkpackfan said:
hokiewolf said:
jkpackfan said:
Werewolf said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Werewolf said:


Yes I do

This would be one of the best things to happen to our country in decades. Maybe centuries.

Honestly.

No way it happens but Congressional term limits would be one of the biggest legacy-building acts conceivable for a modern president. Get those jokers out of there after 2 or 3 terms.

Agree, I think it would solve a ton of issues within DC.

Dont know how he would plan on getting it through Congress. I dont see it as a realistic outcome, but would LOVE to be wrong
I think it happens once the election integrity is addressed. I also would like to see us return to state legislatures picking each state's US Senators.
Strongly disagree there, let the people vote for their representatives.
agree with you The issue seems to be primary participation and gerrymandering from BOTH parties.
Exactly

Yeah, technically "both" but let's be clear about "both" not doing too much work here.

Quote:
Research suggests that Republicans have benefited more from gerrymandering in recent election cycles, particularly in the context of U.S. House elections

Key findings:
  • Disproportionate control: Republicans controlled the redistricting process for significantly more districts than Democrats, drawing 191 districts compared to 75 for Democrats in the 2024 election cycle.
  • Court decisions: State courts in Republican-controlled states were less likely to address partisan gerrymandering claims, while Democratic-favoring gerrymanders were more often corrected through legal challenges.
  • National impact: This has resulted in a significant advantage for Republicans in the U.S. House, estimated to be around 16 seats in the 2024 election compared to a scenario with fair maps.
  • State legislative level: Studies indicate that roughly twice as many state legislatures are gerrymandered to favor Republicans compared to those favoring Democrats.
Important to note:
  • Both parties engage in gerrymandering: While Republicans have seen a greater advantage in recent years, both parties have engaged in gerrymandering when given the opportunity.
  • Impact on elections: Gerrymandering can lead to reduced representation, increased partisan polarization, decreased voter participation, and less competitive elections.
It is important to remember that gerrymandering is a complex issue with various perspectives and consequences. The impact of gerrymandering can vary depending on the specific state and election cycle.
How to partisan, Hokie edition:

If Dems do something bad, then Dems suck.
If Trump does something bad, then Trump sucks.
If Republicans do something bad, then BOTH parties suck, nothing to see here.

Comes off that way sometimes, but pleased to extend some grace to hokie here - by all accounts a good and thoughtful dude, and he's likely tired of being accused by the group-thinkers on here of not simply being what he says he is - a right-leaning libertarian that cares much more about issues than party.

Even if he goes a little overboard with "both-sides-ing" on here from time to time.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely appreciate that Hokie is here debating actual thoughts. I guess I just give him sh** sometimes because I hold him to a higher standard than the MAGA drones linking talking points and yelling "TDS" every post.

The non-loons on here definitely need to keep their **** tight.

They've got a lot of water to carry 'round these parts.


#Sieve, i answered your question today. Now, answer my one question back. Is this Mayor a D or an R?


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In reply to jkpackfan • 7:45p, 6/24/25
jkpackfan said:
SmaptyWolf said:
Civilized said:
jkpackfan said:
hokiewolf said:
jkpackfan said:
Werewolf said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Werewolf said:


Yes I do

This would be one of the best things to happen to our country in decades. Maybe centuries.

Honestly.

No way it happens but Congressional term limits would be one of the biggest legacy-building acts conceivable for a modern president. Get those jokers out of there after 2 or 3 terms.

Agree, I think it would solve a ton of issues within DC.

Dont know how he would plan on getting it through Congress. I dont see it as a realistic outcome, but would LOVE to be wrong
I think it happens once the election integrity is addressed. I also would like to see us return to state legislatures picking each state's US Senators.
Strongly disagree there, let the people vote for their representatives.
agree with you The issue seems to be primary participation and gerrymandering from BOTH parties.
Exactly

Yeah, technically "both" but let's be clear about "both" not doing too much work here.

Quote:
Research suggests that Republicans have benefited more from gerrymandering in recent election cycles, particularly in the context of U.S. House elections

Key findings:
  • Disproportionate control: Republicans controlled the redistricting process for significantly more districts than Democrats, drawing 191 districts compared to 75 for Democrats in the 2024 election cycle.
  • Court decisions: State courts in Republican-controlled states were less likely to address partisan gerrymandering claims, while Democratic-favoring gerrymanders were more often corrected through legal challenges.
  • National impact: This has resulted in a significant advantage for Republicans in the U.S. House, estimated to be around 16 seats in the 2024 election compared to a scenario with fair maps.
  • State legislative level: Studies indicate that roughly twice as many state legislatures are gerrymandered to favor Republicans compared to those favoring Democrats.
Important to note:
  • Both parties engage in gerrymandering: While Republicans have seen a greater advantage in recent years, both parties have engaged in gerrymandering when given the opportunity.
  • Impact on elections: Gerrymandering can lead to reduced representation, increased partisan polarization, decreased voter participation, and less competitive elections.
It is important to remember that gerrymandering is a complex issue with various perspectives and consequences. The impact of gerrymandering can vary depending on the specific state and election cycle.
How to partisan, Hokie edition:

If Dems do something bad, then Dems suck.
If Trump does something bad, then Trump sucks.
If Republicans do something bad, then BOTH parties suck, nothing to see here.
You accusing someone of being partisan is absolutely hilarious, there's not a more partisan person on this board than you and it's not close. It's always republicans bad no matter what we're talking about and I'm not even talking about Trump.

...
Uh huh. I've had plenty of good things to say about the shrinking pool of sane Republicans... in fact I even vowed to send Adam Kinzinger a pile of cash if he ever runs for office again.

Feel free to link anything positive you've ever had to say on the WC about a Dem. Spoiler alert! Exactly zero of the MAGA clowns on here have ever had a good thing to say about a Dem. You guys aren't even partisan... you live in an alternate universe where there's only one party and a bunch of "enemies".
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So much more complicated than our resident checkers players can comprehend.
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It's a relatively small # when compared to 300+million Americans. It's many of the same people, paid to protest. Just like Kackling Kamala, the cell phones pinged at her rallies were mostly the same every rally. They were bussed from rally to rally, maybe 5,000 of em. Soros and Canadian funded?
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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 8:14p, 6/24/25
SmaptyWolf said:
jkpackfan said:
SmaptyWolf said:
Civilized said:
jkpackfan said:
hokiewolf said:
jkpackfan said:
Werewolf said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Werewolf said:


Yes I do

This would be one of the best things to happen to our country in decades. Maybe centuries.

Honestly.

No way it happens but Congressional term limits would be one of the biggest legacy-building acts conceivable for a modern president. Get those jokers out of there after 2 or 3 terms.

Agree, I think it would solve a ton of issues within DC.

Dont know how he would plan on getting it through Congress. I dont see it as a realistic outcome, but would LOVE to be wrong
I think it happens once the election integrity is addressed. I also would like to see us return to state legislatures picking each state's US Senators.
Strongly disagree there, let the people vote for their representatives.
agree with you The issue seems to be primary participation and gerrymandering from BOTH parties.
Exactly

Yeah, technically "both" but let's be clear about "both" not doing too much work here.

Quote:
Research suggests that Republicans have benefited more from gerrymandering in recent election cycles, particularly in the context of U.S. House elections

Key findings:
  • Disproportionate control: Republicans controlled the redistricting process for significantly more districts than Democrats, drawing 191 districts compared to 75 for Democrats in the 2024 election cycle.
  • Court decisions: State courts in Republican-controlled states were less likely to address partisan gerrymandering claims, while Democratic-favoring gerrymanders were more often corrected through legal challenges.
  • National impact: This has resulted in a significant advantage for Republicans in the U.S. House, estimated to be around 16 seats in the 2024 election compared to a scenario with fair maps.
  • State legislative level: Studies indicate that roughly twice as many state legislatures are gerrymandered to favor Republicans compared to those favoring Democrats.
Important to note:
  • Both parties engage in gerrymandering: While Republicans have seen a greater advantage in recent years, both parties have engaged in gerrymandering when given the opportunity.
  • Impact on elections: Gerrymandering can lead to reduced representation, increased partisan polarization, decreased voter participation, and less competitive elections.
It is important to remember that gerrymandering is a complex issue with various perspectives and consequences. The impact of gerrymandering can vary depending on the specific state and election cycle.
How to partisan, Hokie edition:

If Dems do something bad, then Dems suck.
If Trump does something bad, then Trump sucks.
If Republicans do something bad, then BOTH parties suck, nothing to see here.
You accusing someone of being partisan is absolutely hilarious, there's not a more partisan person on this board than you and it's not close. It's always republicans bad no matter what we're talking about and I'm not even talking about Trump.

...
Uh huh. I've had plenty of good things to say about the shrinking pool of sane Republicans... in fact I even vowed to send Adam Kinzinger a pile of cash if he ever runs for office again.

Feel free to link anything positive you've ever had to say on the WC about a Dem. Spoiler alert! Exactly zero of the MAGA clowns on here have ever had a good thing to say about a Dem. You guys aren't even partisan... you live in an alternate universe where there's only one party and a bunch of "enemies".
I wonder how well #daNappy's pineal gland is holding up?

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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 8:19p, 6/24/25
SmaptyWolf said:
jkpackfan said:
SmaptyWolf said:
Civilized said:
jkpackfan said:
hokiewolf said:
jkpackfan said:
Werewolf said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Werewolf said:


Yes I do

This would be one of the best things to happen to our country in decades. Maybe centuries.

Honestly.

No way it happens but Congressional term limits would be one of the biggest legacy-building acts conceivable for a modern president. Get those jokers out of there after 2 or 3 terms.

Agree, I think it would solve a ton of issues within DC.

Dont know how he would plan on getting it through Congress. I dont see it as a realistic outcome, but would LOVE to be wrong
I think it happens once the election integrity is addressed. I also would like to see us return to state legislatures picking each state's US Senators.
Strongly disagree there, let the people vote for their representatives.
agree with you The issue seems to be primary participation and gerrymandering from BOTH parties.
Exactly

Yeah, technically "both" but let's be clear about "both" not doing too much work here.

Quote:
Research suggests that Republicans have benefited more from gerrymandering in recent election cycles, particularly in the context of U.S. House elections

Key findings:
  • Disproportionate control: Republicans controlled the redistricting process for significantly more districts than Democrats, drawing 191 districts compared to 75 for Democrats in the 2024 election cycle.
  • Court decisions: State courts in Republican-controlled states were less likely to address partisan gerrymandering claims, while Democratic-favoring gerrymanders were more often corrected through legal challenges.
  • National impact: This has resulted in a significant advantage for Republicans in the U.S. House, estimated to be around 16 seats in the 2024 election compared to a scenario with fair maps.
  • State legislative level: Studies indicate that roughly twice as many state legislatures are gerrymandered to favor Republicans compared to those favoring Democrats.
Important to note:
  • Both parties engage in gerrymandering: While Republicans have seen a greater advantage in recent years, both parties have engaged in gerrymandering when given the opportunity.
  • Impact on elections: Gerrymandering can lead to reduced representation, increased partisan polarization, decreased voter participation, and less competitive elections.
It is important to remember that gerrymandering is a complex issue with various perspectives and consequences. The impact of gerrymandering can vary depending on the specific state and election cycle.
How to partisan, Hokie edition:

If Dems do something bad, then Dems suck.
If Trump does something bad, then Trump sucks.
If Republicans do something bad, then BOTH parties suck, nothing to see here.
You accusing someone of being partisan is absolutely hilarious, there's not a more partisan person on this board than you and it's not close. It's always republicans bad no matter what we're talking about and I'm not even talking about Trump.

...
Uh huh. I've had plenty of good things to say about the shrinking pool of sane Republicans... in fact I even vowed to send Adam Kinzinger a pile of cash if he ever runs for office again.

Feel free to link anything positive you've ever had to say on the WC about a Dem. Spoiler alert! Exactly zero of the MAGA clowns on here have ever had a good thing to say about a Dem. You guys aren't even partisan... you live in an alternate universe where there's only one party and a bunch of "enemies".
I really liked Bob Etheridge, that dude was solid. And a heck of a nice guy to me personally.
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Just want to drop this, regarding how this supposed "Republican" became a foaming at the mouth TDS Leftist…

https://instagr.am/p/DLN0tZBsP-c
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 8:27p, 6/24/25
I've posted this a number of times on the WC; a couple of times on the CIA thread. Dolla's to Donuts the CIA or MOSSAD blackmailed him or framed him.

Joe probably murdered her but got a chance at liberty..............with his handler none other than the wicked witch sitting beside him in the morning.
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In reply to Wolfblood • 8:34p, 6/24/25
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SmaptyWolf said:
Werewolf said:
Every mother, father, wife and child of airmen on that mission should be thankful.


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Looks like they should have focused on keeping it secret from Trump. Hey, at least Hegseth didn't tweet the battle plans this time!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/vance-hints-uranium-was-moved-after-trump-tipped-off-tehran/


Do you bring a doll along with you on your visits to your therapist or do they just keep one at the office for you so you can point out where Trump has hurt you that day?

Don't worry, I'm sure the next Democrat President just like Obama and Biden, will gift billions to Iran so they can replenish their terrorists proxies Hamas and Hezbollah to unleash death and terror throughout the region. I'm not sure with USAID under scrutiny that the next Democrat President will be able to funnel enough taxpayer money to reignite Iran's nuclear program, but you can hope.

While you suffer through these tough times remember the good times of the former reanimated corpse-in-chief and his foreign policy and repeat his favorite motto of deterrence to help you survive.

"Don't"

"Don't"

"Don't"
To your first question, I'm guessing yes.
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#MAHA, drinking distilled water from your very own water distiller might have some benefits. Take tap water and distill it for drinking or cooking. Do you think nano size particles are removed from surface water drinking facilities?
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In reply to jkpackfan • 8:38p, 6/24/25
jkpackfan said:
Werewolf said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Werewolf said:


Yes I do

This would be one of the best things to happen to our country in decades. Maybe centuries.

Honestly.

No way it happens but Congressional term limits would be one of the biggest legacy-building acts conceivable for a modern president. Get those jokers out of there after 2 or 3 terms.

Agree, I think it would solve a ton of issues within DC.

Dont know how he would plan on getting it through Congress. I dont see it as a realistic outcome, but would LOVE to be wrong
I think it happens once the election integrity is addressed. I also would like to see us return to state legislatures picking each state's US Senators.
Strongly disagree there, let the people vote for their representatives.
They do. Senators are a different matter. The same "democracy" complaints we hear today were used back then to push the 17th Amendment. The founders knew what they were doing when they made Senators the choice of state legislatures. We screwed with that and it's led us to an imbalance of power favoring the federal government.
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In reply to Werewolf • 8:41p, 6/24/25
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I've posted this a number of times on the WC; a couple of times on the CIA thread. Dolla's to Donuts the CIA or MOSSAD blackmailed him or framed him.

Joe probably murdered her but got a chance at liberty..............with his handler none other than the wicked witch sitting beside him in the morning.


That's how the entire "Deep State" operates. Blackmailed puppets who are controlled via the dirt on them.
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In reply to Oldsouljer • 8:41p, 6/24/25
Oldsouljer said:
jkpackfan said:
Werewolf said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Werewolf said:


Yes I do

This would be one of the best things to happen to our country in decades. Maybe centuries.

Honestly.

No way it happens but Congressional term limits would be one of the biggest legacy-building acts conceivable for a modern president. Get those jokers out of there after 2 or 3 terms.

Agree, I think it would solve a ton of issues within DC.

Dont know how he would plan on getting it through Congress. I dont see it as a realistic outcome, but would LOVE to be wrong
I think it happens once the election integrity is addressed. I also would like to see us return to state legislatures picking each state's US Senators.
Strongly disagree there, let the people vote for their representatives.
They do. Senators are a different matter. The same "democracy" complaints we hear today were used back then to push the 17th Amendment. The founders knew what they were doing when they made Senators the choice of state legislatures. We screwed with that and it's led us to an imbalance of power favoring the federal government.
Much better articulated than my words above.
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In reply to Werewolf • 8:44p, 6/24/25
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#MAHA, drinking distilled water from your very own water distiller might have some benefits. Take tap water and distill it for drinking or cooking. Do you think nano size particles are removed from surface water drinking facilities?
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In reply to Werewolf • 8:51p, 6/24/25
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Werewolf said:
#MAHA, drinking distilled water from your very own water distiller might have some benefits. Take tap water and distill it for drinking or cooking. Do you think nano size particles are removed from surface water drinking facilities?
#MAHA
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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 9:17p, 6/24/25
SmaptyWolf said:
jkpackfan said:
SmaptyWolf said:
Civilized said:
jkpackfan said:
hokiewolf said:
jkpackfan said:
Werewolf said:
FlossyDFlynt said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Werewolf said:


Yes I do

This would be one of the best things to happen to our country in decades. Maybe centuries.

Honestly.

No way it happens but Congressional term limits would be one of the biggest legacy-building acts conceivable for a modern president. Get those jokers out of there after 2 or 3 terms.

Agree, I think it would solve a ton of issues within DC.

Dont know how he would plan on getting it through Congress. I dont see it as a realistic outcome, but would LOVE to be wrong
I think it happens once the election integrity is addressed. I also would like to see us return to state legislatures picking each state's US Senators.
Strongly disagree there, let the people vote for their representatives.
agree with you The issue seems to be primary participation and gerrymandering from BOTH parties.
Exactly

Yeah, technically "both" but let's be clear about "both" not doing too much work here.

Quote:
Research suggests that Republicans have benefited more from gerrymandering in recent election cycles, particularly in the context of U.S. House elections

Key findings:
  • Disproportionate control: Republicans controlled the redistricting process for significantly more districts than Democrats, drawing 191 districts compared to 75 for Democrats in the 2024 election cycle.
  • Court decisions: State courts in Republican-controlled states were less likely to address partisan gerrymandering claims, while Democratic-favoring gerrymanders were more often corrected through legal challenges.
  • National impact: This has resulted in a significant advantage for Republicans in the U.S. House, estimated to be around 16 seats in the 2024 election compared to a scenario with fair maps.
  • State legislative level: Studies indicate that roughly twice as many state legislatures are gerrymandered to favor Republicans compared to those favoring Democrats.
Important to note:
  • Both parties engage in gerrymandering: While Republicans have seen a greater advantage in recent years, both parties have engaged in gerrymandering when given the opportunity.
  • Impact on elections: Gerrymandering can lead to reduced representation, increased partisan polarization, decreased voter participation, and less competitive elections.
It is important to remember that gerrymandering is a complex issue with various perspectives and consequences. The impact of gerrymandering can vary depending on the specific state and election cycle.
How to partisan, Hokie edition:

If Dems do something bad, then Dems suck.
If Trump does something bad, then Trump sucks.
If Republicans do something bad, then BOTH parties suck, nothing to see here.
You accusing someone of being partisan is absolutely hilarious, there's not a more partisan person on this board than you and it's not close. It's always republicans bad no matter what we're talking about and I'm not even talking about Trump.

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Uh huh. I've had plenty of good things to say about the shrinking pool of sane Republicans... in fact I even vowed to send Adam Kinzinger a pile of cash if he ever runs for office again.

Feel free to link anything positive you've ever had to say on the WC about a Dem. Spoiler alert! Exactly zero of the MAGA clowns on here have ever had a good thing to say about a Dem. You guys aren't even partisan... you live in an alternate universe where there's only one party and a bunch of "enemies".
There are very few sane moderate democrats left so I can definitely relate.
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That settles it, #Nappy, aka #SpikeProtein, will never - ever - reside in South Carolina!!!!

Smartest guy in the WC!

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10:19p, 6/24/25

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"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 10:23p, 6/24/25
u betcha they are!!!! And the MSM will be sure to tell us about it too ;-)
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What say u, #daSieve?
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#daGobbler has long insisted Trump is a grifter. Very believable; #daGobbler is right one more time!!!!LOL we

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A couple of recent Juan O'Savin interviews have been monumental disclosures. Here's one of the two.......more than an hour long.

Discussions of 2020 elections and the elections across the globe, operations by the CCP, EO13848, COVID, Operation Warp Speed, Middle Eat, Russia Ukraine, Central Africa, SE Asia , Nuremberg type trials coming that will mobilize the world against the CCP, "shock the world" and the impending dangers of AI.

I don't expect our resident blind mice to look into this, but I would urge all others to seriously consider sitting down with the spouse and a cup of coffee and listen. One is a huge fish and in the middle of the fight, intimately familiar with all the evidence related to the election fraud. From the CCP issued drivers license and copies and the ballots paper ballots printed in China flown in and by ship to the digital fraud in the intimate understanding of the testimony of the more than 100 involved in the digital fraud, I cannot express adequately the gravity of the information soon to be disclosed over the coming weeks the degree of sedition and treason and the numbers of American citizens involved with foreign agents actors in a toppling our government will be earth shattering for all

https://rumble.com/v6uycv5-juan-o-savin-lets-analyze-ai-mel-carmine-6-17-2025.html

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Looks like WW3 has concluded, Tucker Carlson must be sad he was wrong again. But he can wipe his tears with the money he's grifted from isolationist rubes

Our missile strike only happened because Trump was desperate to not be called "TACO" again. I'm sure Iran is giving him the off ramp he clearly wants.

Spoiler alert! Their nuclear program wasn't obliterated. Though we did obliterate any chance they will stop wanting one.


You are deranged and you literally need professional help.
Poor Gulf... trying to figure out the "America First Regime Change" talking points you've been fed the last couple days must have been a struggle for you.


Poor Smapty hoping for world war just to GET TRUMP. Keep hoping, wishing, praying for the worst.

There are cases to be made for and against, and we won't truly know whether this strike was worth the risk until years from now.

And you realize well over half of Republicans were opposed to military action in Iran, right?

By your logic are they out to GET TRUMP too? LOL



I'm betting what was done will be better than doing nothing at all. What say you? Give a yes or no.

Many people are "opposed" to war, myself included. Dropping 6-8 bombs on a third world *hole ain't war my friend. Smapty and his far left loons are all over the place saying we are now in a world war. It's ridiculous. It's just hoping for the worst, every day, so everyone will say he was right, we're sorry for voting for Trump. It's lunacy.

I suspect we'll find out over time that these strikes had a fairly limited impact on Iran's nuclear capability.

It's been broadly reported that much or all of the most-enriched uranium had already been relocated prior to these strikes. The strikes may have damaged or destroyed some enrichment equipment and program records and other appurtenances. Hopefully a lot of the uranium was buried also but the evidence of that is nonexistent at this point.

Whatever the damage, once determined we'll then have to weigh that against impacts to US's reputational,economic, geopolitical, and military interests, and our safety at home and abroad.

The jury will be out on this for months/years.

As to alternatives, doing nothing wasn't the only other option.

Trump could've stayed in the 2015 nuclear treaty that seemed to be providing us with significant transparency about Iran's level of enrichment in exchange for economic benefits to them.

Trump could've increased the economic pressure Iran to engage in more significant diplomacy.

He could've partnered with Israel to engage in more covert attacks on Iran's infrastructure.

He could've engaged with international suppliers of enrichment technology to embargo Iran from successfully being supplied such tech.

You haven't seen me come out strongly for or against this move; it's simply too early to tell how prudent it was. But they were very clearly multiple viable alternatives to bombing Iran that also didn't involve just sitting on our hands.



The possibility of a strike forced Iran to move uranium, which Hillary gave them, and we know exactly where it is. I bet Israel takes that out very soon. Go Trump.

We put the world on notice. Iran is isolated. No China and no Russia. They don't want that smoke. Go Trump.

We'll know very soon, don't need a jury. That's just liberal talking points.

Iran has been a bad actor since 1979. It's about time someone punched them in the face. Go Trump.

That "deal" was BS and only a fool like Smapty thinks it was working. If you also think it was working, send me your banking information and I'll deposit a million bucks in your account. Go Trump.
If we know where it is why didn't we just bomb it instead of an empty mountain? Wait, why did Trump want to bomb an empty mountain again? Seems like a weird thing to do for a guy insisting he just "obliterated" their nuclear program. I'm sure your Trump Devotion Syndrome helps this all make sense to you.

Here in the real world, all we've done is blown up a little equipment they can easily replace, and make ourselves look like unhinged idiots. There are only two possible ways to end their nuclear ambitions: Regime change (a.k.a. long term occupation) or a "deal". Or I guess we can just do the MAGA thing, pretend the nuclear program was obliterated, and then jerk ourselves to sleep.


Because ending their program requires more than just blowing up the uranium. Do you know how long it took Iran to build those facilities? How much money they spent? Building something like that is not easy. It all needs to be destroyed.

Far as "jerk ourselves to sleep"….I'll leave that to you. Sounds like you know what you're talking about.
Given that you can't comprehend how hard it is to get around the kind of nuclear inspections we had in place until Trump tore them up 7 years ago (which of course reignited their program), I'm gonna assume you have no idea how stupid it is to think we can obliterate their nuclear program in a weekend... especially if we give them advanced warning to move important stuff.

You live in the Trump Show. He's super manly and tough. He waves his hands and all of your dreams come true. Enjoy bedtime! Here's a new poster to hang above your bed:





That nuclear deal was NOT stopping Iran from building their program. It was worthless. Only a dip$#*+ such as yourself would believe anything Iran says. Even if we didn't obliterate their program we sure as hell set them back a decade. That's better than doing nothing at all, right? On top of all that Iran is responsible either directly or indirectly for the deaths of nearly 2000 Americans since the early 80's. It's about time we had a President do something.

And we didn't give them notice to move anything. They were forced to move stuff because of the threat of attack. You do understand the difference? They took it out of the underground bunker for all the satellites to see. We know exactly what they moved and where it is. If it's of any importance it too will be destroyed, probably by the Israelis.

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So true. They opened the door and in walked millions of people from around the world. I don't want hear anything from the democrats concerning security.
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