USAID is looking like an enormous can of worms. Maybe Elon will talk about it tonight on his DOGE briefing at 12am. I'll be in bed, but will be interested to see what is discussed tomorrow morning.

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USAID is looking like an enormous can of worms. Maybe Elon will talk about it tonight on his DOGE briefing at 12am. I'll be in bed, but will be interested to see what is discussed tomorrow morning.

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There are going to be cans........and cans............and cans......of worms. We won't be able to bait our hooks fast enough.

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#SIeve & #Gobbler, I know you want the echo chamber to go away. It's those MAGA people that dominate the conversation, blah, blah, blah.

Do you boys know what a "target rich environment" is? Look it up. Gonna be like center console fishing for MAGA on a school of red snapper.......LOL Just find a spot on the boat and start pulling em' in. You'll continue eating crow, fellas.

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#Gobbler, allow me to put the red snapper analogy into context for you.

It's kinda like being on a bluegill bed for us #MAGA types. You can relate, I'm sure. :-)

One of the Never Trumpers putting it out there. Embarrassing.

The deep state is far preferable to the Trump state.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) February 2, 2025

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One of the Never Trumpers putting it out there. Embarrassing.

The deep state is far preferable to the Trump state.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) February 2, 2025

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A scoundrel for sure. I used to watch this SOB and I thought he was a really smart dude, a great American. Like all the other RINOs, a treasonist *******.

#Sieve, #Nappy & #Gobbler, it's called a MAGA STICK.

🚨Update: Panama surrenders!! “We’ll NOT renew agreement with China over Silk Route!” — Panama President after meeting Secretary Rubio!! USA! USA! USA!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/eCdVjorPGG

— US Homeland Security News (@defense_civil25) February 2, 2025

Market is currently crashing. Russell 2000 -3.41% alone. Yikes.

We're about to see real pain

Left or Right. Nobody wants to see this. If you do then you're just sour at society in general

Tarrifs were a real stupid idea. What an idiot. I thought he was just going to play hardball. Oh well.

Buying opp I guess?

NASDAQ -2.25

S&P -1.76


gonna get much worse once the market opens

thanks Trump. smh

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Market is currently crashing. Russell 2000 -3.41% alone. Yikes.

We're about to see real pain

Left or Right. Nobody wants to see this. If you do then you're just sour at society in general

Tarrifs were a real stupid idea. What an idiot. I thought he was just going to play hardball. Oh well.

Buying opp I guess?

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It's been coming. There is a plan, it will be short go and rough. We'll be fine.

My my my, #Sieve and #Gobbler, what do we have brewing here? #Gobbler, think bluegill bed.

Fear grips DC as Musk gains access to sensitive Treasury Department payment system that controls $5TRILLION

Read: https://t.co/aPfE05NEJ9 pic.twitter.com/72hxkwvZIv

— I’m No Angel (@HappyCamper2626) February 3, 2025

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Oh, I thought this was just about Fentanyl. It's nice that Trump at least acknowledged that prices are going to go up. Also, remember that celebrated United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) from his first term? Well Trump just violated that agreement.

All this winning for China and we get to pay for it too! But hey, what's a little bit of pain as long as we piss of our allies while rewarding our enemies, and we get to shoot our foot off too? Win win!!

The “Tariff Lobby,” headed by the Globalist, and always wrong, Wall Street Journal, is working hard to justify Countries like Canada, Mexico, China, and too many others to name, continue the decades long RIPOFF OF AMERICA, both with regard to TRADE, CRIME, AND POISONOUS DRUGS…

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) February 2, 2025

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Gobbler, allow me to provide some context.

Trump45 ---- SEARCH and
Trumy47 -----DESTROY

You've been #devolutioned, LMAO

I was critical of foreign policy mistakes that Biden made, Trump is making similar mistakes

Purge continues at USAID, many fear elimination, a win for China and Russia as developing nations and allies will turn to them for aid.
Fox has learned 50 senior USAID staff were placed on administrative leave then all staff were subjected to a gag order. https://t.co/L6FdBykH6j

— Jennifer Griffin (@JenGriffinFNC) February 3, 2025

USAID is not conservative and most certainly needs to be audited. $43B in funding this year. Fake conservatives and never trumpers should feign outrage. Lol

USAID, like the National Endowment for Democracy, are well-documented CIA fronts that are designed to manipulate other countries' internal politics for the benefits of DC elites and nobody else in the US.

Both agencies have wrought destruction and can't die soon enough: https://t.co/NoDxJDtht7

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) February 2, 2025

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No surprise they have hokie's support

USAID was a viper’s nest of radical-left marxists who hate America https://t.co/0xKxmN5Pss

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 2, 2025

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I don't have an issue with auditing USAID, and I think it's a good idea to fold it into the State Department. However, I don't think the program should be stopped, because of the concern about Russia and China, which is what Elon Musk is promoting. That, is where I think the bad idea is at.

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No surprise they have hokie's support

USAID was a viper’s nest of radical-left marxists who hate America https://t.co/0xKxmN5Pss

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 2, 2025

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I don't have an issue with auditing USAID, and I think it's a good idea to fold it into the State Department. However, I don't think the program should be stopped, because of the concern about Russia and China, which is what Elon Musk is promoting. That, is where I think the bad idea is at.

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MAGA: "Durp! All foreign aid is totally a Marxist conspiracy and must be killed!"

Also MAGA: "Durp! What's up with this massive migrant caravan heading our way from South America? Why won't they stay in their own countries?!"

I suspect he's carrying a huge stick….just my intuition

FINAL WARNING:

THIS IS MY FINAL WARNING AS IT RELATES TO CONFIRMATIONS OF @realDonaldTrump ‘s NOMINEES. IF THERE ARE PEOPLE INSIDE OF THE ODNI, THE CIA, OR THE FBI THAT ARE WORKING TO SUBVERT THE NOMINATIONS OF @TulsiGabbard , @Kash_Patel or @RobertKennedyJr , I AM WRITING TO…

— General Mike Flynn (@GenFlynn) February 2, 2025

hokiewolf said:

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I was critical of foreign policy mistakes that Biden made, Trump is making similar mistakes

Purge continues at USAID, many fear elimination, a win for China and Russia as developing nations and allies will turn to them for aid.
Fox has learned 50 senior USAID staff were placed on administrative leave then all staff were subjected to a gag order. https://t.co/L6FdBykH6j

— Jennifer Griffin (@JenGriffinFNC) February 3, 2025

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To some extent, I agree. Biden handled the Ukraine war badly, and Trump won't do any better and possibly worse. And that might be the only situation where one could possibly do worse than Biden.

Werewolf said:

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I suspect he's carrying a huge stick….just my intuition

FINAL WARNING:

THIS IS MY FINAL WARNING AS IT RELATES TO CONFIRMATIONS OF @realDonaldTrump ‘s NOMINEES. IF THERE ARE PEOPLE INSIDE OF THE ODNI, THE CIA, OR THE FBI THAT ARE WORKING TO SUBVERT THE NOMINATIONS OF @TulsiGabbard , @Kash_Patel or @RobertKennedyJr , I AM WRITING TO…

— General Mike Flynn (@GenFlynn) February 2, 2025

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Could also be those nominees suck. I mean Kennedy didn't know the difference between Medicaid and Medicare.

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erniencsu02 said:

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NASDAQ -2.25

S&P -1.76


gonna get much worse once the market opens

thanks Trump. smh

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It's been a long time coming, the threat of tariffs is at most a trigger…and any black swan event was due to take it down anyway. I'm not saying it to defend Trump but investors ought to appreciate just how severely overbought and over-valued these indices are. In fact, higher bond yields starting from several months ago have to be considered at least a co-trigger for an equity bloodbath. And for that, you can blame Congress, party control not withstanding, for unconstrained, runaway spending. Accruing more debt from spending while struggling to make payments on existing debt was never going to end well. Got gold, silver, and platinum?

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Been in the works for eons and was stalled to dump on Trump. The Trump team is wise to allow the inevitable to go down in 1st few days as opposed to fighting it.

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LOLOL. Pure fantasy.

This fits though.

Donald Trump when the tariffs hit pic.twitter.com/pPHmZ7jkkb

— Skyler Johnson (@SkylerforNY) February 2, 2025

Pissing all over our closest allies and trade partners is what you voted for Were.

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hokiewolf said:

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packgrad said:

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No surprise they have hokie's support

USAID was a viper’s nest of radical-left marxists who hate America https://t.co/0xKxmN5Pss

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 2, 2025

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I don't have an issue with auditing USAID, and I think it's a good idea to fold it into the State Department. However, I don't think the program should be stopped, because of the concern about Russia and China, which is what Elon Musk is promoting. That, is where I think the bad idea is at.

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MAGA: "Durp! All foreign aid is totally a Marxist conspiracy and must be killed!"

Also MAGA: "Durp! What's up with this massive migrant caravan heading our way from South America? Why won't they stay in their own countries?!"

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Because of the corruption in the South American governments is rampant therefore very little aid actually gets to the people in those countries. You really need to get out more and experience more.

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Liberals care more about other countries than they do the United States. No surprise though. They care more about mentally ill men than their daughters.

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You do realize it's not the other countries causing this it's greed of corporations, who were side by side with Trump at the inauguration.

Today finally marks the start of Week 3. Only 206 more weeks to go...

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packgrad said:

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Liberals care more about other countries than they do the United States. No surprise though. They care more about mentally ill men than their daughters.

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You do realize it's not the other countries causing this it's greed of corporations, who were side by side with Trump at the inauguration.

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The Biggest Companies Donating to Trump and Harris' 2024 Campaigns

That indirect access to corporate wealth has helped former President Donald Trump raise nearly $382 million for his candidacy. Vice President Kamala Harris has raked in more than $1 billion since entering the race just three months ago,

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biggest-companies-donating-trump-harris-170048844.html
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Interesting read.

Goldman Sachs saying the tarrifs are going to sink the S&P 500 next earnings.

I just cant understand why anyone wants this. But damn if some of you morons arent rooting for it.

Nothing says "this thing is trending in the right direction" like drawing fawning praise from genocidal oligarchs.

Putin says Europe will 'stand at the feet of the master' as Trump's tariffs alarm allies

What in the world would Reagan have to say about this?

Oh wait, he already said it.

RONALD REAGAN (1988): Our peaceful trading partners are not our enemies—they are our allies. We should be aware of the demagogues who are ready to declare a trade war against our friends, weakening our economy, our national security, and the entire free world—all while cynically… pic.twitter.com/Ag7dt33uGh

— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) February 2, 2025

Reagan's address on free trade is excellent.

"High tariffs inevitably lead to trade wars... Markets shrink & collapse; businesses & industries shut down; & millions of people lose their jobs." pic.twitter.com/r1wyCUHo3G

— Sheel Mohnot (@pitdesi) February 3, 2025

The following is what I'm rooting for:

Trade balances
Drug smuggling to stop
34T debt - figure out a way to slow, then stop adding to it
1.7T yearly deficit - balance it and ultimately get a surplus
Sound dollar

The following is what I don't care about:

Stock Market (its over-valued)
Investment bankers (they've gotten filthy rich from 0% interest rates - easy money)

So, Lets just see how this really affects people as it matures...

We will have a 3-6 mo rough spot and then things will settle down and improve. Tariffs win for the American people in the end

caryking said:

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The following is what I'm rooting for:

Trade balances
Drug smuggling to stop
34T debt - figure out a way to slow, then stop adding to it
1.7T yearly deficit - balance it and ultimately get a surplus
Sound dollar

The following is what I don't care about:

Stock Market (its over-valued)
Investment bankers (they've gotten filthy rich from 0% interest rates - easy money)

So, Lets just see how this really affects people as it matures...

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There don't seem to be many economists or people in industry that think tariffs are the way to achieve any of these things but I like your list as aspirational goals. We should all agree that these would be beneficial outcomes for the US.

What about inflation?

The price of eggs and gas was all we heard about in here for months leading up to the election.

What about the housing crisis?

Housing unaffordablity was a huge problem before actions that will undoubtedly make houses even more expensive to build and more expensive to finance.

What about humanitarian objectives for impoverished nations? What's our responsibility and ability to bring the weight of the biggest economy in the world to bear on issues like famine, disease control, and economic opportunity for developing nations? Beyond ethical considerations, what are the national security benefits of doing so?

What about our obligations to our allies and trade partners, including those obligations made by Trump during his first term? Should we not honor those and pursue win-win outcomes?

What about the constitutionality of fake government officials with insufficient security credentials vastly overstepping their authority to monitor and influence Treasury policy intrude on and shape federal offices?

This devil-may-care attitude the administration is taking with multiple issues of key domestic and global importance is completely unnecessary and counterproductive, at best.

Yet again.... if the TDS crew would just pause hyperventilating for a little bit....

The Mexican President says Donald Trump has agreed to put the tariffs on pause for a month, and that she is sending 10,000 members of National Guard to the border to stop the flow of drugs and immigrants. https://t.co/nex4bXLpFr

— Vikram Chandra (@vikramchandra) February 3, 2025

BREAKING: Trump has said: I just spoke with President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico. It was a very friendly conversation wherein she agreed to immediately supply 10,000 Mexican Soldiers on the Border separating Mexico and the United States.

These soldiers will be specifically…

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) February 3, 2025

Mexico folds its hand the day before the tariffs start, agrees to enforce its border more stringently and to interdict fentanyl too. The legacy media can’t keep up with Trump because we’ve legit never had a president moving faster and winning more in our country’s modern history. pic.twitter.com/jQM95GTMFx

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) February 3, 2025

For three days a lot of the far left has actively rooted against America and argued we’d get nothing out of President Trunp’s demands that Mexico secure its country.

Well, how do you like them apples? pic.twitter.com/NBpkRHXjko

— JD Vance (@JDVance) February 3, 2025

Nobody applies leverage like Trump. Nobody.

I am an advocate of free trade on a principled level when it doesn't threaten key national industries and national security (which is why we should tariff China). In a vacuum, trade wars are not good or easy to win.

BUT Trump saying…

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 3, 2025