"Conservative" hokie thinks republicans/conservatives are pro war. Does he really need to say anything else to prove he's full of *****

At least civ no longer pretends to be independent.

BREAKING: President Trump announces that on DAY ONE he will impose a 25% Tariff on Canada and Mexico on all good coming into the country in direct response to the persistent illegal immigration, open borders, and drugs flowing into America, citing fentanyl in particular.

In a… pic.twitter.com/09noTfQX23

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) November 26, 2024

To be clear, according to Trump the 25% tariffs will not be implemented, or if implemented will be removed, once Mexico and Canada stop the flow of illegal immigrants and fentanyl into the U.S.

In other words, @realDonaldTrump is going to use tariffs as a weapon to achieve… https://t.co/61oQvCpW92

— Bill Ackman (@BillAckman) November 26, 2024

#daSieve....... #daBoomerang

BREAKING REPORT: Judge Tanya Chutkan grants motion from prosecutors to DISMISS ELECTION INTERFERENCE CASE against President-elect Donald Trump - AP pic.twitter.com/j8dLHhZPN6

— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) November 25, 2024

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"Conservative" hokie thinks republicans/conservatives are pro war. Does he really need to say anything else to prove he's full of *****

At least civ no longer pretends to be independent.

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apologies, meant isolationist

#Sieve and #Gobbler, your criminal cartel puppets are going down.

BREAKING REPORT: Matt Gaetz DROPS MAJOR HINT on his next move...

ARE YOU READY FOR SPECIAL COUNSEL MATT GAETZ? pic.twitter.com/nz5IKXuJq8

— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) November 24, 2024

Wonder how long it will take Special Counsel Gates to get to her?

WE MUST TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT INSIDER TRADING ! Democrat Rep Chellie Pingree's net worth before joining politics was just $316,000. Just 4 years later, it spiked to $46 MILLION
WATCH 👇 pic.twitter.com/hUSx4SJHgz

— VeBee🇺🇸✝️ (@VeBo1991) November 24, 2024

This guy has got to be one of #RINO #daGobbler's FAV's........drinks McCaul's **** up with a straw. Owned lock stock and barrel.

Matt Gaetz just vowed to expose Stock Trading in Congress

🚨 This Congressman Insider Traded $576 Million Dollars, Making $24 Million Per Month & Owns a $20 Million Dollar Private Jet

“This US politician makes an average of $24,000,000 every single month

- Congressman Michael… pic.twitter.com/5saU13t5eT

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) November 23, 2024

As I've told #daSieve, #devolution #boomerang. #Sieve, can I get a #boomerang from ya?

Of course, this is most probably a #Gobbler love. #boomerang #Gobbler #devolution

Good night #Gobbler, I'll be back for more of your kind's ARSE tomorrow.

🚨BREAKING: Janet Yellen, Treasury Secretary, Resigns Abruptly

Something big is about to get exposed in the U.S. political system.

This is why we stay in crypto. When trust in the system fades, decentralization wins. #XRP $XRP #Bitcoin pic.twitter.com/DyGB41Cbtp

— Armando Pantoja (@_TallGuyTycoon) November 24, 2024

Fentanyl use is already down, overdose death are down 15%. But hey, it will be harder to smuggle fentanyl into the country, which will push the price up. It's a win win for the cartels, they push back into Opioids, and they still make the same profit! The deaths will remain the same, just different drugs will be the cause.

So the Cartels could give two ****s about tariffs, they give two ****s about the "hit squads" Trump has threatened to send after the "kingpins" too. There aren't anymore real Mexican drug kingpins, and these guys aren't in a line of work where they expect live long anyways, so that isn't going to work either.

All that will happen is that stuff will become more expensive, and all you are doing is punishing American companies and consumers.

I have a question for you, since you love tariffs. The tariff on Chinese manufactured goods, great, right?

Well let's use Apple as an example. They outsource almost 100% of the manufacturing. They keep all the good paying jobs in the US - the R&D folks, the marketing people, the sales folks, all the great paying jobs are in the United States.

Who does the tariff benefit most? Well Apple's Korean owned and operated competitor, Samsung, who also outsources their manufacturing, just not in China, and keeps all the high paying jobs in Korea.

I hear your next argument! Apple should stop manufacturing in China! Good idea! Except, the Chinese manufacturers will just move the minimum amount of pieces and parts made in China to manufacturing in Vietnam. So you don't change anything other than the place is assembly.

Well, we could move manufacturing to the US! How much of the product manufactured is actually made in America - ie the pieces and parts? So, all you've done now is moved the assembly of a widget and slapped an "American Made" sticker on it. But the tariff on imported pieces and parts and the additional cost of assembly is just passed onto the consumer. Say it with me - not everything manufactured in an American factory is made in America!

Oh, we can then just insist on everything meet a Buy American FAR clause! Well, I can tell you with experience, working on federally funded projects, you almost triple the cost of a construction project because of the Federal Buy American FAR clause.

Why do you hate American Companies and consumers so much?

BREAKING: PM Trudeau called Trump to discuss border security hours after 25% Canadian tariff threats by DJT

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 26, 2024

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Connecting these dots, can it be hard? Too difficult for #daGobbler but what else is actually new?

10 Shocking Stories the Media Buried Today

#10 - Tucker Carlson warns that the Deep State has decided that WW3 is the only way to stop Trump from exposing their crimes.

“Those people, out of options, have decided the only way to stop Trump and... having their crimes revealed is… pic.twitter.com/8dvt2Cpl9V

— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) November 25, 2024

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I don't understand why this is not getting more attention? The democrats are literally trying to create the biggest mess possible for President Trump and it's dangerous for the entire world.

These people are angry, vindictive and would rather have war than hand over power.

Gulf; looks like the Biden administration isn't concerned about WW3. It has been said "Elections have consequences". ...........and, Stolen elections to boot........

We are on the verge of WW3

The President takes 6 naps a day

The VP is hiding from the media somewhere

And this what their DEI Administration is doing in the White House

pic.twitter.com/4j4DX7yix1

— Drew Hernandez (@DrewHLive) August 15, 2024

#daGobbler is a FOOL. #daGobbler, and others like him, are not only a threat to our republic, but they are also a threat to humanity. #PeaceThroughStrength

🌎The Entire World

🌏Should Be As Angry

🌎As @joerogan Is About

🌍 Democrats Starting WW3🤬 pic.twitter.com/CSqukuwYiq

— ♥️🇺🇸 𝓒𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓪 🇮🇹♥️ (@CB618444) November 24, 2024

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Fentanyl use is already down, overdose death are down 15%. But hey, it will be harder to smuggle fentanyl into the country, which will push the price up. It's a win win for the cartels, they push back into Opioids, and they still make the same profit! The deaths will remain the same, just different drugs will be the cause.

So the Cartels could give two ****s about tariffs, they give two ****s about the "hit squads" Trump has threatened to send after the "kingpins" too. There aren't anymore real Mexican drug kingpins, and these guys aren't in a line of work where they expect live long anyways, so that isn't going to work either.

All that will happen is that stuff will become more expensive, and all you are doing is punishing American companies and consumers.

I have a question for you, since you love tariffs. The tariff on Chinese manufactured goods, great, right?

Well let's use Apple as an example. They outsource almost 100% of the manufacturing. They keep all the good paying jobs in the US - the R&D folks, the marketing people, the sales folks, all the great paying jobs are in the United States.

Who does the tariff benefit most? Well Apple's Korean owned and operated competitor, Samsung, who also outsources their manufacturing, just not in China, and keeps all the high paying jobs in Korea.

I hear your next argument! Apple should stop manufacturing in China! Good idea! Except, the Chinese manufacturers will just move the minimum amount of pieces and parts made in China to manufacturing in Vietnam. So you don't change anything other than the place is assembly.

Well, we could move manufacturing to the US! How much of the product manufactured is actually made in America - ie the pieces and parts? So, all you've done now is moved the assembly of a widget and slapped an "American Made" sticker on it. But the tariff on imported pieces and parts and the additional cost of assembly is just passed onto the consumer. Say it with me - not everything manufactured in an American factory is made in America!

Oh, we can then just insist on everything meet a Buy American FAR clause! Well, I can tell you with experience, working on federally funded projects, you almost triple the cost of a construction project because of the Federal Buy American FAR clause.

Why do you hate American Companies and consumers so much?

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Hokie, I think you summed up the manufacturing process fairly well. Hopefully, the tariffs will start to change once the Trump admin realizes what you outlined.

I follow certain industries and their manufacturing. You are correct, countries like Vietnam, Indonesia, etc are now the final part of the manufacturing process. I call it the cut and sew and/or final assembly. You are correct, the parts are still made in China.

It's those parts that I want moved to the US. The cut and sew and/or final assembly will come, once companies realize that is close enough on margins to do the entire product manaufacturing, in the US. Additionally, I think we will see a big push, by consumers, to start buying more from the US. China has negative vibe about it right now. Plus, Money people are also recognizing the negativity in China and are advising companies to limit their exposure in China.

So, why is this meaningful to me? I see people (blue collar people) sitting on their front porch, not working. The problem is that they don't have jobs to work. They will never be white collar workers, in fact, they enjoy the manual nature of that work. I know! I have a bunch of family members that will never be a white collar worker. It's not what drives them. They are stuck in the jobs that are availble to them. We need more options for people that like to do that kind of work.

Now, I hate to tell you…. Classic liberalism has lost its panache…. A little bit of MAGA, and little bit of Classic Liberalism.

The state of Sino-Vietnamese relations isn't good and getting worse thanks to worsening disputes about the Paracels/Spratly islands, they may need to find another locale to outsource to.

https://instagr.am/p/DC0q6hLMDDk

#whydoyouhateamericancompaniesandconsumerssomuch?

🚨 NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

- Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
- Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 26, 2024

https://instagr.am/p/DC1jW8OpiBt

Going to Costco today and stocking up on Maple syrup so I can get in on that underground syrup market in 2025

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Going to Costco today and stocking up on Maple syrup so I can get in on that underground syrup market in 2025

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What?

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#whydoyouhateamericancompaniesandconsumerssomuch?

🚨 NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

- Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
- Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 26, 2024

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Is there anything President Trump can't do?!

Man, if we're putting 25% tariffs on Canadian imports, maple syrups about to go up! Get it now while it's till cheap, then sell it on the black market!

Cary, going to need to talk to you about warehouse space!

In solidarity with some who post here, here's a tweet from a guy I know nothing about!

Trump’s Labor Secretary pick joined the Dems to sponsor:

(1) Amnesty for illegal aliens

(2) Forced unionization of private sector employees

(3) opposition to school choice

(4) expanded unionization of government employees

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) November 23, 2024

But he is correct on all points.

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#whydoyouhateamericancompaniesandconsumerssomuch?

🚨 NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

- Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
- Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 26, 2024

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It's good to have a business man back in office.

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#whydoyouhateamericancompaniesandconsumerssomuch?

🚨 NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

- Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
- Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 26, 2024

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People keep telling me this is a negotiating tool to get other stuff unrelated to trade. But it just seems like the tariffs Congress doesn't block just go into effect, beget reciprocal trade barriers, and persist forever because the Democrats who inherit them like protectionism.

Great! Our number 1 trading partner! What a mess

— TMP (@Smartnotserious) November 26, 2024

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#whydoyouhateamericancompaniesandconsumerssomuch?

🚨 NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

- Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
- Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 26, 2024

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People keep telling me this is a negotiating tool to get other stuff unrelated to trade. But it just seems like the tariffs Congress doesn't block just go into effect, beget reciprocal trade barriers, and persist forever because the Democrats who inherit them like protectionism.

Great! Our number 1 trading partner! What a mess

— TMP (@Smartnotserious) November 26, 2024

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While you're loading up on maple syrup load up on burritos too!

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In solidarity with some who post here, here's a tweet from a guy I know nothing about!

Trump’s Labor Secretary pick joined the Dems to sponsor:

(1) Amnesty for illegal aliens

(2) Forced unionization of private sector employees

(3) opposition to school choice

(4) expanded unionization of government employees

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) November 23, 2024

But he is correct on all points.

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Agree.

This is a TERRIBLE pick. From this article, they are saying that Trump cozied up to the Teamsters, and that they influenced Trump to make this pick.

https://nypost.com/2024/11/23/us-news/trump-picked-toxic-rep-lori-chavez-deremer-for-labor-secretary-critics/

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Trump's labor pick is 'toxic' anti-conservative RINO who is too close to unions, critics allege: 'Not serious'

Nov 23, 2024

President-elect Trump's nomination for labor secretary is a "toxic" anti-conservative RINO with cozy ties to unions, outraged critics told The Post Saturday.

During her single term on the Hill, Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRemer (R-Ore.) has backed a laundry list of boiler-plate liberal policies at odds with longstanding Republican orthodoxies, including strengthening unions' efforts to organize the private sector, amnesty for illegal immigrants, and championing expanding government employee unions.

"The signaling effect alone from this nomination would be that the Trump administration is not serious about deregulation or economic growth," Ken Girardin, labor expert at the conservative Empire Center for Public Policy, told The Post.

One of the biggest red flags for critics is the fact that Chavez-DeRemer was one of only three House Republicans who co-sponsored the radical, union-backed PRO Act.

The bill, which failed to pass out of the House in 2023, would have banned right-to-work laws in over two dozen states, which allow employees to opt of paying union dues; devastated the gig economy by restricting independent contractor classifications; and forced employers to hand over their workers' personal information.

"In this woman's America, every worker would have to have a boss and pay the union for the privilege of working," said Grover Norquist, founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform.

"This is an outrage, This is not mildly bad. This is a huge thing that she voted for."

Teamsters President Sean O'Brien who met with Trump at Mar-a-Lago in January and spoke at the Republican National Convention despite not endorsing him in his 2024 White House run pushed for Chavez-DeRemer to clinch Cabinet post, a Trump world insider said.

"Sean O'Brien of the Teamsters did that," the insider said. "Trump and O'Brien are closer than people understand."

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Trump promised that he really was going to Drain the Swamp this time, and acknowledged that he picked too many RINO Establishment types in his cabinet his first time in office.

Well...now he's doing the same thing and stocking his cabinet with RINO Establishment swamp creatures.

This labor secretary, Marco Rubio, Pam Bondi, the surgeon general...are all outright RINOs or have many positions that are in direct contradiction to what Trump campaigned on.

Very concerning.

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#whydoyouhateamericancompaniesandconsumerssomuch?

🚨 NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

- Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
- Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 26, 2024

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People keep telling me this is a negotiating tool to get other stuff unrelated to trade. But it just seems like the tariffs Congress doesn't block just go into effect, beget reciprocal trade barriers, and persist forever because the Democrats who inherit them like protectionism.

Great! Our number 1 trading partner! What a mess

— TMP (@Smartnotserious) November 26, 2024

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While you're loading up on maple syrup load up on burritos too!

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Nah man. Going to become a Coyote. Labor is the biggest import! (This is sarcasm)

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#whydoyouhateamericancompaniesandconsumerssomuch?

🚨 NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

- Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
- Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 26, 2024

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He just keeps winning.

Israel-Hezbollah cease-fire to start Wednesday morning, per CBS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 26, 2024

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#whydoyouhateamericancompaniesandconsumerssomuch?

🚨 NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

- Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
- Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 26, 2024

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He just keeps winning.

Israel-Hezbollah cease-fire to start Wednesday morning, per CBS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 26, 2024

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The world recognizes when America has a strong President like Mr. Trump.

That's all because of Trump and not the Israelis decimating the Hezbollah leadership structure including killing Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, and destroying almost 100% of their weapons caches? Sure, I'll buy that!

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That's all because of Trump and not the Israelis decimating the Hezbollah leadership structure including killing Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, and destroying almost 100% of their weapons caches? Sure, I'll buy that!

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So, you don't think that the upcoming change in US Leadership was a major factor in this?

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That's all because of Trump and not the Israelis decimating the Hezbollah leadership structure including killing Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, and destroying almost 100% of their weapons caches? Sure, I'll buy that!

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So, you don't think that the upcoming change in US Leadership was a major factor in this?

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if it was a cease fire with Hamas, sure. But Hezbollah FAFO with Israel trying to be Iran's puppet. There was too much damage done for the election to have anything to do with it.

We should be thanking Israel for killing terrorists who killed Americans, and not taking credit for their substantial victory.