caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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Also, this looks more and more like a planned action from the beginning. Trump and Gaetz would be the kind of people that will play a long game…

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Gaetz was pushed hard by Don Jr, so Indobt think so. Have to think next man up is Mike Lee, no?

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I didn't realize Gaetz was push hard by Don Jr. That said, Mike Lee might be good; however, I would prefer Ken Paxton, AG out of Texas.

I stand firm on the idea that we have massive rot in the Federal Government. I don't know if Mike Lee is willing to be a hardliner on eradicating that rot. I think he is definitely constitutionally based, no doubt.

Ken Paxton was removed from his office, down in Texas. Who did this? It was the Bush backed republicans that brought him up on some ethics charge (or something like that). He won the case and is now back in his AG seat.

Remember who Paxton beat, in the Texas primaries? It was a Bush family member... That doesn't go well in Texas. Karl Rove was involved in that whole hatchet job against Paxton. Paxton is a fighter and a winner!!!

Paxton would be who I support!

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Damned straight, he beat the RINO Texas House speaker who went after him and unlike Lee and Cruz, he's available, the latter two can't be spared from the Senate.

Update: Pam Bondi. That's some choice. She was good in Florida, how well she knows DC and the bowels of the DOJ, I don't know.

caryking said:

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Also, this looks more and more like a planned action from the beginning. Trump and Gaetz would be the kind of people that will play a long game…

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I agree. There is more to this story than meets the eye.

Oldsouljer said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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Also, this looks more and more like a planned action from the beginning. Trump and Gaetz would be the kind of people that will play a long game…

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Gaetz was pushed hard by Don Jr, so Indobt think so. Have to think next man up is Mike Lee, no?

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I didn't realize Gaetz was push hard by Don Jr. That said, Mike Lee might be good; however, I would prefer Ken Paxton, AG out of Texas.

I stand firm on the idea that we have massive rot in the Federal Government. I don't know if Mike Lee is willing to be a hardliner on eradicating that rot. I think he is definitely constitutionally based, no doubt.

Ken Paxton was removed from his office, down in Texas. Who did this? It was the Bush backed republicans that brought him up on some ethics charge (or something like that). He won the case and is now back in his AG seat.

Remember who Paxton beat, in the Texas primaries? It was a Bush family member... That doesn't go well in Texas. Karl Rove was involved in that whole hatchet job against Paxton. Paxton is a fighter and a winner!!!

Paxton would be who I support!

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Damned straight, he beat the RINO Texas House speaker who went after him and unlike Lee and Cruz, he's available, the latter two can't be spared from the Senate.

Update: Pam Bondi. That's some choice. She was good in Florida, how well she knows DC and the bowels of the DOJ, I don't know.

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BREAKING: President-elect Trump announces Pam Bondi as his new pick for US attorney general. pic.twitter.com/LaEZLd9p45

— Fox News (@FoxNews) November 21, 2024

packgrad said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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Also, this looks more and more like a planned action from the beginning. Trump and Gaetz would be the kind of people that will play a long game…

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Gaetz was pushed hard by Don Jr, so Indobt think so. Have to think next man up is Mike Lee, no?

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I didn't realize Gaetz was push hard by Don Jr. That said, Mike Lee might be good; however, I would prefer Ken Paxton, AG out of Texas.

I stand firm on the idea that we have massive rot in the Federal Government. I don't know if Mike Lee is willing to be a hardliner on eradicating that rot. I think he is definitely constitutionally based, no doubt.

Ken Paxton was removed from his office, down in Texas. Who did this? It was the Bush backed republicans that brought him up on some ethics charge (or something like that). He won the case and is now back in his AG seat.

Remember who Paxton beat, in the Texas primaries? It was a Bush family member... That doesn't go well in Texas. Karl Rove was involved in that whole hatchet job against Paxton. Paxton is a fighter and a winner!!!

Paxton would be who I support!

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Damned straight, he beat the RINO Texas House speaker who went after him and unlike Lee and Cruz, he's available, the latter two can't be spared from the Senate.

Update: Pam Bondi. That's some choice. She was good in Florida, how well she knows DC and the bowels of the DOJ, I don't know.

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BREAKING: President-elect Trump announces Pam Bondi as his new pick for US attorney general. pic.twitter.com/LaEZLd9p45

— Fox News (@FoxNews) November 21, 2024

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I like the choice!

Is there Senate confirmation for Deputy AG? That could be Gaetz too.......very Trump-like move.
Of course, Gaetz to US Senate would be great too via DeSantis apt.

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Is there Senate confirmation for Deputy AG? That could be Gaetz too.......very Trump-like move.
Of course, Gaetz to US Senate would be great too via DeSantis apt.

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I'm not sure about deputy AG…. I've read where the deputy AG is the person that does most of the heavy lifting…

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Werewolf said:

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Is there Senate confirmation for Deputy AG? That could be Gaetz too.......very Trump-like move.
Of course, Gaetz to US Senate would be great too via DeSantis apt.

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I'm not sure about deputy AG…. I've read where the deputy AG is the person that does most of the heavy lifting…

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Which was my thinking.

ACCOUNTABILITY IS COMING.

— Dan Scavino Jr.🇺🇸🦅 (@DanScavino) November 20, 2024

Accountability is coming! pic.twitter.com/4sa5xZauB7

— The Disrespected Trucker (@DisrespectedThe) November 17, 2024

Here's one for you…

Pam Bondi's first act as AG…. Appoint Matt Gaetz as Special Council to investigate…. Pick your investigation.

caryking said:

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Here's one for you…

Pam Bondi's first act as AG…. Appoint Matt Gaetz as Special Council to investigate…. Pick your investigation.

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Yep. I was thinking Special Council too.........but I didn't recall who appointed the SG. So, AG does.

Questions seem to be around Ted Cruz lately. And now Braun. Geez.

BREAKING: Chuck Schumer just confirmed another lifelong federal judge with a vote of 50-48. Republican Senators Ted Cruz and Mike Braun didn't show up to block the confirmation by making it 50-50.

Kamala is currently in Hawaii, so she couldn't have cast the tie-breaking vote.… pic.twitter.com/oGxLKW7sk9

— George (@BehizyTweets) November 20, 2024

Just got this in my recommendations on YT….an interview with Donald Trump's mother. Trump's mother was born in Scotland. She retained her Scottish accent, and you can see VERY obvious similarities to Donald in her mannerisms and the way she speaks.

I occasionally wondered why Trump has such a unique accent and way of speaking. I think it has a lot to do with his mother, and her Scottish accent.

This guy predicted what modern-day America has become.

In 1840 French philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville accurately predicted what kind of tyranny democratic modern nations would face: a dehumanizing bureaucracy that would turn people into sheep.

Under the leadership of @elonmusk & @VivekGRamaswamy, @DOGE will now put a stop to that. pic.twitter.com/qil9v67v8h

— Eva Vlaardingerbroek (@EvaVlaar) November 14, 2024

caryking said:

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Here's one for you…

Pam Bondi's first act as AG…. Appoint Matt Gaetz as Special Council to investigate…. Pick your investigation.

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100%.

You get a special investigation, You get a special investigation.

Special investigations for everyone!

Good luck!

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Here's one for you…

Pam Bondi's first act as AG…. Appoint Matt Gaetz as Special Council to investigate…. Pick your investigation.

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100%.

You get a special investigation, You get a special investigation.

Special investigations for everyone!

Good luck!

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Civ, you know that was a speculative thought that has no more than a 50% chance of happening…

Be better than your cohort on this forum.

Hitler is cooperative.

There is nothing more fascist than the elected president proposing a cabinet nominee, the legislature rejecting them, then the president saying OK moving on…

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) November 21, 2024

packgrad said:

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Hitler is cooperative.

There is nothing more fascist than the elected president proposing a cabinet nominee, the legislature rejecting them, then the president saying OK moving on…

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) November 21, 2024

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He's not the President yet.

Refresh my memory, how will the establishment Uni-Party, in whatever capacity it survives, end a Special Council investigation into corruption? Other than assassination?

Can this get through Congress without it being sabotaged?

THIS IS AMAZING! The Dismantle DEI Act, which Senator JD Vance sponsored, just got approved by the committee after Congressman Michael Cloud masterfully supported it.

The bill will ban all DEI hiring within the government forever.
pic.twitter.com/bljeHxg7SI

— George (@BehizyTweets) November 20, 2024

caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Here's one for you…

Pam Bondi's first act as AG…. Appoint Matt Gaetz as Special Council to investigate…. Pick your investigation.

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100%.

You get a special investigation, You get a special investigation.

Special investigations for everyone!

Good luck!

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Civ, you know that was a speculative thought that has no more than a 50% chance of happening…

Be better than your cohort on this forum.

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It's not a speculative thought for the right though.

Retribution is a common theme in Trump and the Republican Party's messaging and motivations. All we've heard for years is how investigations of Trump are purely motivated by politics and not underlying evidence. Except that ignores the fact that investigations go nowhere without evidence (like the aborted Biden impeachment that we heard about for months but that never materialized because there was no meat on that bone).

I'm all for attempts at retribution by Trump's incoming administration because they'll either fail miserably like all the dumb and failed election fraud lawsuits in 2020 or they'll find actual evidence and root out corruption. Either of those outcomes serve a useful purpose.

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Here's one for you…

Pam Bondi's first act as AG…. Appoint Matt Gaetz as Special Council to investigate…. Pick your investigation.

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100%.

You get a special investigation, You get a special investigation.

Special investigations for everyone!

Good luck!

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Civ, you know that was a speculative thought that has no more than a 50% chance of happening…

Be better than your cohort on this forum.

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It's not a speculative thought for the right though.

Retribution is a common theme in Trump and the Republican Party's messaging and motivations. All we've heard for years is how investigations of Trump are purely motivated by politics and not underlying evidence. Except that ignores the fact that investigations go nowhere without evidence (like the aborted Biden impeachment that we heard about for months but that never materialized because there was no meat on that bone).

I'm all for attempts at retribution by Trump's incoming administration because they'll either fail miserably like all the dumb and failed election fraud lawsuits in 2020 or they'll find actual evidence and root out corruption. Either of those outcomes serve a useful purpose.

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its funny Civ... Most, if not all of the time, this retribution thing is coming from Democrats and/or the legacy media. You know... people in the government are saying they are going to leave the country.

I think what you guys need to be most concerned about is the dismantling of the Administrative State. That's where you get most of your support for the causes, I "think" you care about.

Now, for me... I'm all about going after certain people. Adam Schiff is Target #1!!! Unfortunately, I don't that will happen.

Democrat Governer decision making, makes perfect sense, right #Sieve?

Ariz. Gov. Katie Hobbs on mass deportations of criminal aliens:
“We will not be participating in misguided efforts that harm our communities.” Of course she does not want to lose her voter base. pic.twitter.com/OW1OdCYgUn

— lilibell 🇺🇸🇺🇸⭐️⭐️⭐️ (@lilibellmia) November 18, 2024

CNN is promoting Mike Rogers as FBI director with Kash Patel as Deputy director

Were, here you go...

Article 2, Section 3

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

caryking said:

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CNN is promoting Mike Rogers as FBI director with Kash Patel as Deputy director

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Hearing Mike Rogers is officially out as FBI Director

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Pam Bondi is an excellent pick for AG. She is really good and is a former homicide prosecutor and AG of Florida. Media and the Dems should have left Gaetz well enough alone. Be careful what you wish for.

As noted above by Cary's post from the Constitution. Trump can bypass all Cabinet confirmation hearings if he wants to. Get the people in there and destroy the Deep State. Sounds like a great plan to me!

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No, he can't. This is a terrible interpretation and not what was intended. Besides, he's not going to get cooperation from the Senate. Senators (most of them) still take their job very seriously.

What qualifies this as an extraordinary occasion? That his nominees might get rejected?

hokiewolf said:

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Pam Bondi is an excellent pick for AG. She is really good and is a former homicide prosecutor and AG of Florida. Media and the Dems should have left Gaetz well enough alone. Be careful what you wish for.

As noted above by Cary's post from the Constitution. Trump can bypass all Cabinet confirmation hearings if he wants to. Get the people in there and destroy the Deep State. Sounds like a great plan to me!

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No, he can't. This is a terrible interpretation and not what was intended. Besides, he's not going to get cooperation from the Senate. Senators (most of them) still take their job very seriously.

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It certainly will get a ruling; however, this may be a place he could go to get some nominees through the process.

Based on what I understand, if the House says it's going on recess and the Senate doesn't, that becomes a disagreement. At that point, the President can force the two chambers into recess.

Now, I'm not sitting here saying this is constitutional; rather, I'm saying this is a crude understanding of how this may happen. Also, I am confident this will get challenged in the courts.

Also, the Senator's that were most vocal against Gaetz all voted for Garland. I think that is the kind of thing that causes issues. If an elected President, by the people, wants certain people to be in their cabinet, then the Senate should support that President.

And finally, Trump probably will "not" get any support, by the Democrats, on any of his nominees. Only the Republicans play by a different rule. I've said it before: Democrats play smash mouth Football, Republican sit on the sidelines.

Give all the credit to the Democrats!! They are just good at what they do...

Read Federalist Paper 76.

I'm sorry, just because democrats do something does not mean Republicans should also do it. That argument just doesn't persuade me as a good stance

hokiewolf said:

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Read Federalist Paper 76.

I'm sorry, just because democrats do something does not mean Republicans should also do it. That argument just doesn't persuade me as a good stance

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Just so we are clear, I'm not advocating to do this; rather, I'm communicating what I'm hearing. As far doing the same as Democrats, well... we can sit here on some higher ground (in which the Pubs don't) or, we can fight to win!

On some circumstances, I say fight to win..

caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Pam Bondi is an excellent pick for AG. She is really good and is a former homicide prosecutor and AG of Florida. Media and the Dems should have left Gaetz well enough alone. Be careful what you wish for.

As noted above by Cary's post from the Constitution. Trump can bypass all Cabinet confirmation hearings if he wants to. Get the people in there and destroy the Deep State. Sounds like a great plan to me!

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No, he can't. This is a terrible interpretation and not what was intended. Besides, he's not going to get cooperation from the Senate. Senators (most of them) still take their job very seriously.

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It certainly will get a ruling; however, this may be a place he could go to get some nominees through the process.

Based on what I understand, if the House says it's going on recess and the Senate doesn't, that becomes a disagreement. At that point, the President can force the two chambers into recess.

Now, I'm not sitting here saying this is constitutional; rather, I'm saying this is a crude understanding of how this may happen. Also, I am confident this will get challenged in the courts.

Also, the Senator's that were most vocal against Gaetz all voted for Garland. I think that is the kind of thing that causes issues. If an elected President, by the people, wants certain people to be in their cabinet, then the Senate should support that President.

And finally, Trump probably will "not" get any support, by the Democrats, on any of his nominees. Only the Republicans play by a different rule. I've said it before: Democrats play smash mouth Football, Republican sit on the sidelines.

Give all the credit to the Democrats!! They are just good at what they do...

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So literally no matter who the President wants, the Senate should confirm them just because? That's ridiculous.

There's fair evidence Gaetz is heavy into drugs and prostitution at a minimum, and dudes that are heavy into drugs and prostitution seem fairly compromised, no? And that doesn't even speak of him running in sex trafficking circles or other illegal or illicit or unethical behavior. Gaetz's circumstance is extreme.

However little Dems support Trump's picks, there's almost certainly relativity there. Gaetz had zero shot at garnering any Dem support given his lunacy; he couldn't even get the necessary Republican support. If Trump nominates some like Roberts or Gorsuch I have a strong suspicion the outcome would be different.

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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Pam Bondi is an excellent pick for AG. She is really good and is a former homicide prosecutor and AG of Florida. Media and the Dems should have left Gaetz well enough alone. Be careful what you wish for.

As noted above by Cary's post from the Constitution. Trump can bypass all Cabinet confirmation hearings if he wants to. Get the people in there and destroy the Deep State. Sounds like a great plan to me!

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No, he can't. This is a terrible interpretation and not what was intended. Besides, he's not going to get cooperation from the Senate. Senators (most of them) still take their job very seriously.

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It certainly will get a ruling; however, this may be a place he could go to get some nominees through the process.

Based on what I understand, if the House says it's going on recess and the Senate doesn't, that becomes a disagreement. At that point, the President can force the two chambers into recess.

Now, I'm not sitting here saying this is constitutional; rather, I'm saying this is a crude understanding of how this may happen. Also, I am confident this will get challenged in the courts.

Also, the Senator's that were most vocal against Gaetz all voted for Garland. I think that is the kind of thing that causes issues. If an elected President, by the people, wants certain people to be in their cabinet, then the Senate should support that President.

And finally, Trump probably will "not" get any support, by the Democrats, on any of his nominees. Only the Republicans play by a different rule. I've said it before: Democrats play smash mouth Football, Republican sit on the sidelines.

Give all the credit to the Democrats!! They are just good at what they do...

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So literally no matter who the President wants, the Senate should confirm them just because? That's ridiculous.

There's fair evidence Gaetz is heavy into drugs and prostitution at a minimum, and dudes that are heavy into drugs and prostitution seem fairly compromised, no? And that doesn't even speak of him running in sex trafficking circles or other illegal or illicit or unethical behavior. Gaetz's circumstance is extreme.

However little Dems support Trump's picks, there's almost certainly relativity there. Gaetz had zero shot at garnering any Dem support given his lunacy; he couldn't even get the necessary Republican support. If Trump nominates some like Roberts or Gorsuch I have a strong suspicion the outcome would be different.

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Fair evidence? Come on Civ… you can do better than that. If there was fair evidence of the stuff you just said, it would be everywhere. Even in my "so-called" cult news outlets.