At least you have a vote, right?ncsupack1 said:
I'd like to know what the reps in Ohio and Kansas ran on when it comes to the issue? If they ran on ending it, then I don't know what to tell those folks. Now, if they went rogue then vote them out of office. I have reps that vote on and run on crap that I don't like or support but unless a new rep comes in I'm screwed.
Correctcaryking said:At least you have a vote, right?ncsupack1 said:
I'd like to know what the reps in Ohio and Kansas ran on when it comes to the issue? If they ran on ending it, then I don't know what to tell those folks. Now, if they went rogue then vote them out of office. I have reps that vote on and run on crap that I don't like or support but unless a new rep comes in I'm screwed.
barelypure said:
I mostly agree with the NC law and think it strikes a good balance.
- Abortion will be banned after 12 weeks of pregnancy except in limited circumstances. The limit used to be 20 weeks.
- Exceptions include rape, incest, a life-limiting fetal anomaly, and a medical emergency that threatens the mother's life.
- The law also increases punishments for domestic violence, assaults on pregnant women and sex offenders.
According to data from the state Department of Health and Human Services, of 27,305 North Carolina abortions in 2021, almost 71% were performed by the end of the eighth week and nearly 90% were performed by the end of the 12th week.
About 6.6% of abortions were from the 13th to 20th weeks. Fewer than 0.3% were later than 20 weeks (the old law allowed abortions after 20 weeks if the pregnancy threatened the mother's life). The gestation time of about 3.3% of the pregnancies was unknown.
The new law has several exceptions to the 12-week limit:
- In a medical emergency in which the pregnancy threatens the woman's life or threatens to cause irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function.
- Abortion is legal through the 20th week if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest.
- It is legal through the 24th week if the fetus has a life-limiting anomaly.
Some other abortion restrictions and rules:
- Doctors may prescribe or provide abortion-inducing medicines only if the pregnancy is in its first 10 weeks of gestation. After 10 weeks, the patient would have to get a surgical abortion.
- At least 72 hours prior to the abortion, an ultrasound of the fetus is to be conducted. The ultrasound image is to be presented to the woman so she can either see it in real time or hear the fetal heartbeat. (The 72-hour restrictions do not apply if there is a medical emergency.)
- Abortions after the 12th week of pregnancy may be conducted only at a hospital.
caryking said:What's not representative about that?Wufskins said:caryking said:Yea, I don't know about Kansas and Ohio. In a representative government, typically you will get what the citizens want, in a general nature. Based on the citizens, and their elected representatives, the balance will lean to a middle row, of their thinking. If it doesn't, then people will vote for that change.Wufskins said:caryking said:
I would like give my belief on this subject.
God is the creator of all things, including pregnancy. I personally believe that a child, regardless of how it was conceived is precious. Rape, Incest, etc.. as bad as they are, a person is playing God when they take the life of an innocent unborn child. Why? its Gods creation...
Now, I'm confident only a few will agree with my belief. So, for that matter, my voice is only one voice and another persons voice is only one voice. The States, with the voices, of its citizenry, should make and pass laws that best represent those people. I believe that the constitution plainly states this is a States rights issue.
All the if's, then's, and what about's are all things that can be negotiated at a State level. If you take a look at Trumps video, on this issue, he received significant blowback, from both parties, on this issue. Democrats say he wants to take away more rights, from women. Republicans think he alienated pro-lifers on the issue.
Because of his position, he received blowback. That, from my perspective, probably set the correct balance.
I can respect your opinion on this Cary. But I can't respect a government that will force everyone to have your same opinion on the topic. And that's what many of these red states have done. If a state wants to hold a vote on abortion, then I'd stand by that state's decision. But these laws aren't supported by the majority as evidence from referendums in Kansas and Ohio.
For me, with my far more conservative stance, I understand that I may be in the minority; so, I truly try and stick with the way a representative government is supposed to work. Also, I don't believe in the majority makes the rule. That's not representative government.
But representative government isn't happening in states that pass restrictive or outright bans on abortion. We see that in states that have put abortion on the ballot. It passes overwhelmingly in some of the reddest states.
So what is a woman????Wufskins said:caryking said:What's not representative about that?Wufskins said:caryking said:Yea, I don't know about Kansas and Ohio. In a representative government, typically you will get what the citizens want, in a general nature. Based on the citizens, and their elected representatives, the balance will lean to a middle row, of their thinking. If it doesn't, then people will vote for that change.Wufskins said:caryking said:
I would like give my belief on this subject.
God is the creator of all things, including pregnancy. I personally believe that a child, regardless of how it was conceived is precious. Rape, Incest, etc.. as bad as they are, a person is playing God when they take the life of an innocent unborn child. Why? its Gods creation...
Now, I'm confident only a few will agree with my belief. So, for that matter, my voice is only one voice and another persons voice is only one voice. The States, with the voices, of its citizenry, should make and pass laws that best represent those people. I believe that the constitution plainly states this is a States rights issue.
All the if's, then's, and what about's are all things that can be negotiated at a State level. If you take a look at Trumps video, on this issue, he received significant blowback, from both parties, on this issue. Democrats say he wants to take away more rights, from women. Republicans think he alienated pro-lifers on the issue.
Because of his position, he received blowback. That, from my perspective, probably set the correct balance.
I can respect your opinion on this Cary. But I can't respect a government that will force everyone to have your same opinion on the topic. And that's what many of these red states have done. If a state wants to hold a vote on abortion, then I'd stand by that state's decision. But these laws aren't supported by the majority as evidence from referendums in Kansas and Ohio.
For me, with my far more conservative stance, I understand that I may be in the minority; so, I truly try and stick with the way a representative government is supposed to work. Also, I don't believe in the majority makes the rule. That's not representative government.
But representative government isn't happening in states that pass restrictive or outright bans on abortion. We see that in states that have put abortion on the ballot. It passes overwhelmingly in some of the reddest states.
I would guess they didn't run on ending abortion for women. Look at what happened recently in Alabama. Dem won in a deep red district cuz she ran on abortion/ivf rights.
Anatomy of every BBW post:Wufskins said:
Still angry as hell. Let it go buddy.
BS...SmaptyWolf said:Anatomy of every BBW post:Wufskins said:
Still angry as hell. Let it go buddy.
40% rage spittle
50% personal insults
10% MARXISTS
BBW12OG said:BS...SmaptyWolf said:Anatomy of every BBW post:Wufskins said:
Still angry as hell. Let it go buddy.
40% rage spittle
50% personal insults
10% MARXISTS
You and packskins both have refused to answer questions.
I piss out more intelligence than you two can put together in a shot glass.
You don't like the delivery of the facts. And you know what? I could care less.
You two have been clowned on here enough to where I question why you come back. I guess it's some kind of sick twisted masochism that you lefties are into.
When I have attempted to debate either of you in good faith you deflect, run away and hide.
Ol'packskins is notorious for that on the BY. Always has been.
I'll tell you both this.... I've said this before... you know what that white stuff is on the top of chicken sheeyat?
That's both of you.
You are who you are....SmaptyWolf said:BBW12OG said:BS...SmaptyWolf said:Anatomy of every BBW post:Wufskins said:
Still angry as hell. Let it go buddy.
40% rage spittle
50% personal insults
10% MARXISTS
You and packskins both have refused to answer questions.
I piss out more intelligence than you two can put together in a shot glass.
You don't like the delivery of the facts. And you know what? I could care less.
You two have been clowned on here enough to where I question why you come back. I guess it's some kind of sick twisted masochism that you lefties are into.
When I have attempted to debate either of you in good faith you deflect, run away and hide.
Ol'packskins is notorious for that on the BY. Always has been.
I'll tell you both this.... I've said this before... you know what that white stuff is on the top of chicken sheeyat?
That's both of you.
Lol, you forgot MARXIST.
BBW12OG said:BS...SmaptyWolf said:Anatomy of every BBW post:Wufskins said:
Still angry as hell. Let it go buddy.
40% rage spittle
50% personal insults
10% MARXISTS
You and packskins both have refused to answer questions.
I piss out more intelligence than you two can put together in a shot glass.
You don't like the delivery of the facts. And you know what? I could care less.
You two have been clowned on here enough to where I question why you come back. I guess it's some kind of sick twisted masochism that you lefties are into.
When I have attempted to debate either of you in good faith you deflect, run away and hide.
Ol'packskins is notorious for that on the BY. Always has been.
I'll tell you both this.... I've said this before... you know what that white stuff is on the top of chicken sheeyat?
That's both of you.
Here's a question for ya, youngster.Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:BS...SmaptyWolf said:Anatomy of every BBW post:Wufskins said:
Still angry as hell. Let it go buddy.
40% rage spittle
50% personal insults
10% MARXISTS
You and packskins both have refused to answer questions.
I piss out more intelligence than you two can put together in a shot glass.
You don't like the delivery of the facts. And you know what? I could care less.
You two have been clowned on here enough to where I question why you come back. I guess it's some kind of sick twisted masochism that you lefties are into.
When I have attempted to debate either of you in good faith you deflect, run away and hide.
Ol'packskins is notorious for that on the BY. Always has been.
I'll tell you both this.... I've said this before... you know what that white stuff is on the top of chicken sheeyat?
That's both of you.
Like I said with Cary, what question would you like for me to answer?
Here's a question for ya, youngster.Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:BS...SmaptyWolf said:Anatomy of every BBW post:Wufskins said:
Still angry as hell. Let it go buddy.
40% rage spittle
50% personal insults
10% MARXISTS
You and packskins both have refused to answer questions.
I piss out more intelligence than you two can put together in a shot glass.
You don't like the delivery of the facts. And you know what? I could care less.
You two have been clowned on here enough to where I question why you come back. I guess it's some kind of sick twisted masochism that you lefties are into.
When I have attempted to debate either of you in good faith you deflect, run away and hide.
Ol'packskins is notorious for that on the BY. Always has been.
I'll tell you both this.... I've said this before... you know what that white stuff is on the top of chicken sheeyat?
That's both of you.
Like I said with Cary, what question would you like for me to answer?
BBW12OG said:Here's a question for ya, youngster.Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:BS...SmaptyWolf said:Anatomy of every BBW post:Wufskins said:
Still angry as hell. Let it go buddy.
40% rage spittle
50% personal insults
10% MARXISTS
You and packskins both have refused to answer questions.
I piss out more intelligence than you two can put together in a shot glass.
You don't like the delivery of the facts. And you know what? I could care less.
You two have been clowned on here enough to where I question why you come back. I guess it's some kind of sick twisted masochism that you lefties are into.
When I have attempted to debate either of you in good faith you deflect, run away and hide.
Ol'packskins is notorious for that on the BY. Always has been.
I'll tell you both this.... I've said this before... you know what that white stuff is on the top of chicken sheeyat?
That's both of you.
Like I said with Cary, what question would you like for me to answer?
1. How many jabs have you had and how frequently do you anticipate taking them in the future? (I regularly have and continue to get my flu shots. I took all my required shots to attend public school in Wake Co and the necessary jabs to attend State. I got vaccinated initially and have since been boosted including the latest one last fall)
2. Have your multiple jabs proteced you from the virus and do you expect these jabs to continue to protect you? (Yes they have. I'm still alive, never been hospitalized, and have to my recollection only gotten Covid once when I was not vaccinated because their wasn't a vaccine approved at that time.)
3. Do you cotinue to social distance at 6' or more? No I do not. Just left saving grace where i volunteer every Tue. We are crammed in small quarters with other dogs and volunteers. None of us are masked and don't adhere to 6' social distancing.)
4. Do you wear a mask in public places or only in your car or home? (I only wear a mask when it's required in my doctor's office. I've recently worn a mask a SG when I was coming off the flu and didn't want to potentially expose my fellow volunteers, some that are over 65 and especially vulnerable.)
5. Will you believe Anthony Fauci in the future? (Yes, and I will continue to believe Mindy Cohen.)
Start here.... we can go from there.... or are you going to run and hide like you always do? You were called out for years by many on the BY.... you still do the same here.
Two boards... dozens of people see it, know it and laugh at you.
Answer the above and I'll see where you end up after that.
Ball is in your court. Man up or prove to us who you are. I'll hang up and listen.
hokiewolf said:
There's a feature called private messages, take your individual beefs elsewhere if you're going to go 10 posts deep
hokiewolf said:
There's a feature called private messages, take your individual beefs elsewhere if you're going to go 10 posts deep
Your turn there packskins.... let's see how you answer these.Wufskins said:
using the court system to determine the outcome of the election (how did the Dems do that? Last I checked the Supreme Court ruled in favor of W in the 2000 election wrt to Florida. You'll have to be more specific about what you're talking here) - BS... that is nowhere near what they are doing in NY, GA and DC. Shopping around for "friendly" judges, DA's and jury members has nothing to do what happened in 2000. What GOP member can get a "fair" trial with judges and DAs that ran on "getting President Trump?" That was literally campaign promises they made. You are calling out the SCOTUS in 2000. Even Gore knew he had lost and conceded the election. You are comparing apples to oranges.
met with the MSM to make sure they don't "negatively" cover Sleep Joe's re-election campaign (again, met with msm to what exactly? And if that were the case, how is that any different than the open communication chain the Trump administration had with Fox via Tucker, Sean, and Laura during their prime time shows) -
https://nypost.com/2021/12/08/white-house-working-with-media-to-get-positive-biden-coverage/
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-campaign-sends-memo-media-223821145.html
thumbing their nose at one of the 3 Branches of Government (again, can you be specific here) -CNN: "How will this [unilateral student loan bailout] pass legal muster when the first one didn't?"
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) April 9, 2024
Biden Education Sec. Miguel Cardona (who has absolutely no clue): "Shoutout to the UConn Huskies!" pic.twitter.com/UEwltJIMCjPresident Biden TOTALLY ignored the Supreme Court's ruling. They said that spending must go through Congress, which is also what our Constitution says. He is a lawless President. https://t.co/9gILLMyAtI
— Farrel Vincent (@BigVTN) February 22, 2024
running a candidate that can't spell his name the same way three times with a four letter head start (like most left leaning voters? I'd prefer a younger candidate and wished Joe had made it clear he wasn't running again in late 2022 after the midterms so a viable candidate(s) could make their case to Dems and Indys in time for the run up to the primary season) - But you aren't running a candidate that can. You are and your party is piling on to support him.
attempting to disregard an impeachment (are we talking about Trump's impeachment, Mayorkis, or the attempt to impeach Joe over Hunter stuff) - Mayorkas. Crying Chuck already said if he gets the papers this week he is dismissing the Senate on Friday and it will be ignored.
jailing someone for "contempt of Congress" while your team won't even produce documents for an EQUAL Branch of Government (I'm guessing you're talking about Navarro here. He f'd around and found out. Jim Jordan also refused to comply with a subpoena and hasn't faced any consequences. He has made himself look like a giant hypocrite wrt to how bent he was about Hunter's initial balking at testifying. He later did testify before Congress. Jordan never did.) - Now do Eric Holder and Lois Lerner. Good for them right? Were "contempt of congress" papers ever issued for them? No. There wasn't. So if they are for AG Garland do you support him going to jail?
Can you further elaborate on the bullet points I wasn't sure what you were referring to?
I just did and I provided receipts. Now... you give me your take on the FACTS that I just provided.
Hypocrisy is something you and your party has made a damn statement of the last few years. Just remember.... Karma is undefeated. When your Senate Majority Leader changed the rules for judicial confirmation you complained, cried and said it was unfair. Only because it didn't benefit your team.
Remember Harry Reid???
I do...Wufskins said:
Hey BBW, can I get one simple question answered. Do you currently have posting privileges at PP and if so what name do you post under? And if you do could you post an insult at me in the BY is now premium thread?
BBW12OG said:I do...Wufskins said:
Hey BBW, can I get one simple question answered. Do you currently have posting privileges at PP and if so what name do you post under? And if you do could you post an insult at me in the BY is now premium thread?
My name is "FOpackskins."
Zero insults were in that response. I answered your questions with facts you didn't like.Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:I do...Wufskins said:
Hey BBW, can I get one simple question answered. Do you currently have posting privileges at PP and if so what name do you post under? And if you do could you post an insult at me in the BY is now premium thread?
My name is "FOpackskins."
And I'll take my friend Hokiewuf's advice and move on. You can't have a conversation without making it personal (never met you likely never will).
Btw Hokie, went to the game last November and the Hokie fans couldn't have been nicer. Seriously had at least three random groups of fans come up to my group and welcomed us. We parked at a nearby elementary school and tailgated, then took about a 20 minute walk to the stadium.
BBW12OG said:Zero insults were in that response. I answered your questions with facts you didn't like.Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:I do...Wufskins said:
Hey BBW, can I get one simple question answered. Do you currently have posting privileges at PP and if so what name do you post under? And if you do could you post an insult at me in the BY is now premium thread?
My name is "FOpackskins."
And I'll take my friend Hokiewuf's advice and move on. You can't have a conversation without making it personal (never met you likely never will).
Btw Hokie, went to the game last November and the Hokie fans couldn't have been nicer. Seriously had at least three random groups of fans come up to my group and welcomed us. We parked at a nearby elementary school and tailgated, then took about a 20 minute walk to the stadium.
Like always.... when you are proven to be wrong you deflect, run away and hide.
Why won't you dispute the facts I provided on the questions you asked me?
I responded to your challenge and I answered.
You choose not to because you can't. Like I said... you are showing yet again your moral fortitude. At least you are with like minded people.
Everything you say from this moment on will be taken with as much substance as you have as an individual. Be proud.
You were shown the truth and you ducked and ran.
"Friend Of."Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:Zero insults were in that response. I answered your questions with facts you didn't like.Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:I do...Wufskins said:
Hey BBW, can I get one simple question answered. Do you currently have posting privileges at PP and if so what name do you post under? And if you do could you post an insult at me in the BY is now premium thread?
My name is "FOpackskins."
And I'll take my friend Hokiewuf's advice and move on. You can't have a conversation without making it personal (never met you likely never will).
Btw Hokie, went to the game last November and the Hokie fans couldn't have been nicer. Seriously had at least three random groups of fans come up to my group and welcomed us. We parked at a nearby elementary school and tailgated, then took about a 20 minute walk to the stadium.
Like always.... when you are proven to be wrong you deflect, run away and hide.
Why won't you dispute the facts I provided on the questions you asked me?
I responded to your challenge and I answered.
You choose not to because you can't. Like I said... you are showing yet again your moral fortitude. At least you are with like minded people.
Everything you say from this moment on will be taken with as much substance as you have as an individual. Be proud.
You were shown the truth and you ducked and ran.
What does FO stand for?
Yes. That was the entire point of the conversation. Look it up.hokiewolf said:
Man, that happens all the time. The writers of the article don't write the headlines. Did they try to change the story?
BBW12OG said:"Friend Of."Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:Zero insults were in that response. I answered your questions with facts you didn't like.Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:I do...Wufskins said:
Hey BBW, can I get one simple question answered. Do you currently have posting privileges at PP and if so what name do you post under? And if you do could you post an insult at me in the BY is now premium thread?
My name is "FOpackskins."
And I'll take my friend Hokiewuf's advice and move on. You can't have a conversation without making it personal (never met you likely never will).
Btw Hokie, went to the game last November and the Hokie fans couldn't have been nicer. Seriously had at least three random groups of fans come up to my group and welcomed us. We parked at a nearby elementary school and tailgated, then took about a 20 minute walk to the stadium.
Like always.... when you are proven to be wrong you deflect, run away and hide.
Why won't you dispute the facts I provided on the questions you asked me?
I responded to your challenge and I answered.
You choose not to because you can't. Like I said... you are showing yet again your moral fortitude. At least you are with like minded people.
Everything you say from this moment on will be taken with as much substance as you have as an individual. Be proud.
You were shown the truth and you ducked and ran.
What does FO stand for?
Now be a man..... respond to the facts I posted....
And.... to add another one to Sleepy Joe's administration manipulating the media.... one of his press staffers reached out to "USA Today" to have a headline changed and they did it. Edited it after it was posted online.
Ha Ha!! So you can have me banned?Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:"Friend Of."Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:Zero insults were in that response. I answered your questions with facts you didn't like.Wufskins said:BBW12OG said:I do...Wufskins said:
Hey BBW, can I get one simple question answered. Do you currently have posting privileges at PP and if so what name do you post under? And if you do could you post an insult at me in the BY is now premium thread?
My name is "FOpackskins."
And I'll take my friend Hokiewuf's advice and move on. You can't have a conversation without making it personal (never met you likely never will).
Btw Hokie, went to the game last November and the Hokie fans couldn't have been nicer. Seriously had at least three random groups of fans come up to my group and welcomed us. We parked at a nearby elementary school and tailgated, then took about a 20 minute walk to the stadium.
Like always.... when you are proven to be wrong you deflect, run away and hide.
Why won't you dispute the facts I provided on the questions you asked me?
I responded to your challenge and I answered.
You choose not to because you can't. Like I said... you are showing yet again your moral fortitude. At least you are with like minded people.
Everything you say from this moment on will be taken with as much substance as you have as an individual. Be proud.
You were shown the truth and you ducked and ran.
What does FO stand for?
Now be a man..... respond to the facts I posted....
And.... to add another one to Sleepy Joe's administration manipulating the media.... one of his press staffers reached out to "USA Today" to have a headline changed and they did it. Edited it after it was posted online.
So can you give me shout out on the PP "Brickyard is VIP" thread? Pretty easy to prove, bet you won't. Have a good night!
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Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) suggests exempting blacks from taxes.
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She then says maybe it's not the best idea because many blacks don't pay any taxes anyway… so maybe give free checks. pic.twitter.com/hPCNleGl1p