SmaptyWolf said:
At least the NY AG had a mountain of evidence and probable cause to justify her digging. Oh, and a LONG history with Trump being a fraud in NY. Remember Trump University, shut down for being a scam? Remember the Trump Foundation, shut down for raising money for veterans and then pocketing all of the cash? His criming in NYC has been going on for decades.
The line to see Donald Trump started at the very least in the middle of the night, with tales of ppl being out there 36 hours in advance. The line is so long that it wraps around the arena at Winthrop. Doors opened at 11 am for a 4 pm start to the rally. pic.twitter.com/pssVuofrbq
— Brett Jensen WBT News (@Brett_Jensen) February 23, 2024
Fox cuts coverage of Trump’s rally: Even though he’s entitled to his opinion, he’s not entitled to his own set of facts. The market has indeed been going up but it has nothing to do with Trump. There was also no evidence of a rigged election pic.twitter.com/cwj8YIc1Xo
— Acyn (@Acyn) February 23, 2024
Civilized said:
All those people lined up to worship a dude that is completely untethered from reality.Fox cuts coverage of Trump’s rally: Even though he’s entitled to his opinion, he’s not entitled to his own set of facts. The market has indeed been going up but it has nothing to do with Trump. There was also no evidence of a rigged election pic.twitter.com/cwj8YIc1Xo
— Acyn (@Acyn) February 23, 2024
It's a cult.
Kudos to Fox News for calling out his fever-dreams.
Wow!
— MJTruthUltra (@MJTruthUltra) February 23, 2024
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Civilized said:
All those people lined up to worship a dude that is completely untethered from reality.Fox cuts coverage of Trump’s rally: Even though he’s entitled to his opinion, he’s not entitled to his own set of facts. The market has indeed been going up but it has nothing to do with Trump. There was also no evidence of a rigged election pic.twitter.com/cwj8YIc1Xo
— Acyn (@Acyn) February 23, 2024
It's a cult.
Kudos to Fox News for calling out his fever-dreams.
TRUMP: “Our message to the black community in this election will be a very simple one: If you want strong borders, safe neighborhoods, rising wages, good jobs, great education and the return of the American dream then congratulations you are a Republican!” pic.twitter.com/h92jivjXla
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) February 24, 2024
God wins!! We will win! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸 https://t.co/W9IfQCJGja
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RUSSIA HOAX: Obama knew. Clinton knew. Biden knew. Comey knew. Brennan knew. McCabe knew. Strzok knew.Clapper knew.Schiff knew.FBI knew.DOJ knew. Mueller knew. They all knew Trump was innocent but they smeared and spied on him. Worse than Watergate. Trump is a crime victim! pic.twitter.com/rjgtoKNRco
— Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) February 22, 2024
packgrad said:Civilized said:
All those people lined up to worship a dude that is completely untethered from reality.Fox cuts coverage of Trump’s rally: Even though he’s entitled to his opinion, he’s not entitled to his own set of facts. The market has indeed been going up but it has nothing to do with Trump. There was also no evidence of a rigged election pic.twitter.com/cwj8YIc1Xo
— Acyn (@Acyn) February 23, 2024
It's a cult.
Kudos to Fox News for calling out his fever-dreams.
Lol. The ****** supporter calling something else a cult. Hilarious. Keep voting for the geriatric and crying about Trump, cultist.
Pakbackr said:
Hope Nikki stays in the race to the end...it may be the GOP's last chance to take an off-ramp.
Civilized said:packgrad said:Civilized said:
All those people lined up to worship a dude that is completely untethered from reality.Fox cuts coverage of Trump’s rally: Even though he’s entitled to his opinion, he’s not entitled to his own set of facts. The market has indeed been going up but it has nothing to do with Trump. There was also no evidence of a rigged election pic.twitter.com/cwj8YIc1Xo
— Acyn (@Acyn) February 23, 2024
It's a cult.
Kudos to Fox News for calling out his fever-dreams.
Lol. The ****** supporter calling something else a cult. Hilarious. Keep voting for the geriatric and crying about Trump, cultist.
LOL.
Literally the worst thing you can say about Biden is he's geriatric or you don't like his border policy.
Meanwhile you've got tens of thousand of worshipers waiting 36 hours in the cold to fawn over a fraudulent, election-denying, democracy-assaulting, adultering rapist facing 91 criminal counts mumble and stumble at a third-grade level through a list of fake grievances and alternative facts so embarrassingly that Fox News cuts in to re-engage with reality.
And all the while you continue your personal culture war obsession with an LGBTQ issue that directly impacts something like 0.3% of Americans. This issue apparently really bothers you, but putting a fraudulent, election-denying, democracy-assaulting, adultering rapist that will impact 100% of Americans back in the White House does not.
Is there any question which sounds more like a cult?
LOL: MSNBC says if you believe your rights come from God (and not Congress), you are a Christian nationalist.
— Liz Wheeler (@Liz_Wheeler) February 23, 2024
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She will! She is fully supported by Democratic big money!!Civilized said:Pakbackr said:
Hope Nikki stays in the race to the end...it may be the GOP's last chance to take an off-ramp.
Exactly.
If her campaign stays solvent she'll hang in there.
caryking said:
Macroeconomics….
All you did was help run one of these investment banks into the ground. Then, your macroeconomics wanted a bail out…
caryking said:
Yep, I don't like bail outs or regulations. Did you ever learn anything about moral hazard? If so, your normal actions would kick in, or, are your normal action that poor?
Majority of New York Jews to vote for Trump in presidential election: poll https://t.co/UMN7jVqb3q via @nypmetro
— LeoTerrell (@TheLeoTerrell) February 24, 2024
Former President Trump resoundingly won the Conservative Political Action Conference’s (CPAC) straw poll, beating Nikki Haley 94 to 5 percent.
— The Hill (@thehill) February 24, 2024
Read our full story here: https://t.co/QbSlYRYXRw pic.twitter.com/rbyPfLXIiC
Of course you know that if you let them die, the global banking system dies. That's what "too big to fail" means. And I'm sure you have a clear picture of the ramifications of the global banking system dying.caryking said:
Exactly the reason to let them die!! If you always have a safety net, you never hit rock bottom.
Exactly! Why do you bother?SmaptyWolf said:Of course you know that if you let them die, the global banking system dies. That's what "too big to fail" means. And I'm sure you have a clear picture of the ramifications of the global banking system dying.caryking said:
Exactly the reason to let them die!! If you always have a safety net, you never hit rock bottom.
Just kidding. You're the "dismantle the entire federal government, what could go wrong?" guy. Why do I bother?
caryking said:Exactly! Why do you bother?SmaptyWolf said:Of course you know that if you let them die, the global banking system dies. That's what "too big to fail" means. And I'm sure you have a clear picture of the ramifications of the global banking system dying.caryking said:
Exactly the reason to let them die!! If you always have a safety net, you never hit rock bottom.
Just kidding. You're the "dismantle the entire federal government, what could go wrong?" guy. Why do I bother?
"Too big to Fail" is a means for people like you to get a bailout. Unfortunately, for you, you weren't "too big to fail", so, you probably got recycled to another bank. That's kind of what happens in the federal government.
Recycle the same mentality!
This is funny and disturbing at the same time.pic.twitter.com/3Zy3sEibiB
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) February 25, 2024
Sad part is, the proponents don't understand or care that this can happen to them and all of us for that matter, as the rule of law has broken down.packgrad said:
Great read from Turley.The NY Post is out with my column on the poison pill contained in the recent $455 million judgment against Trump. In order to appeal, he has to come up with that amount or a bond for that amount. Justice Engoron proved that "nothing succeeds like excess.” https://t.co/WX7NlAl0N7
— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) February 19, 2024Imagine being so deranged to think this is ok.... pathetic.Quote:Quote:
Even the New York Times agreed that it could not find a single case in history where this statute was used against an individual or a company that did not commit a criminal offense, go bankrupt, or leave financial victims.
Engoron then combined that unprecedented application with an equally extraordinary penalty, which is greater than the gross national product of some countries.
He disgorged hundreds of millions in a case where not one dollar was lost by anyone. Indeed, the "victims" wanted to get more business from Trump and are now being prevented from doing so by Engoron.
There is also an added inequity to Engoron's decision.
Under New York law, Trump cannot appeal this ruling without depositing the full amount, including interest, in a court account. Even for Trump, $455 million is hard to come by. Likewise, a bond would require a company to guarantee payment for a defendant who has been barred from doing business in New York and is facing the need to liquidate much of his portfolio.
Nothing succeeds like excess for judges like Engoron. By imposing this astronomical figure, he can make it difficult or impossible for a defendant to appeal, absent declaring bankruptcy or selling off assets at distress prices.
The excessive fine and its basis raise serious statutory and constitutional questions. Many of us believe it should be substantially reduced or tossed out entirely.
First, however, Trump must come up with almost half a billion dollars to park with the court. Even with a bond, the high costs of securing a guarantor could come at a premium. It would cost a fortune to the bond holder just to carry the risk even if Trump prevails on appeal.
But the best that politicians like Hochul and Adams can offer is that you have nothing to fear from confiscatory actions unless you are Trump in New York.
Which is precisely why this decision should be overturned.
What is clear is that this case would never have been brought, let alone result in this massive fine, except for politics.
For example, if you are the NRA, James will seek your destruction for financial irregularities, but if you are Black Lives Matter or Al Sharpton's National Action Network, there is little real risk in such controversies.
If the only protection in New York is the discretion of figures like James, few businesses would relish the future. The message is that you can expect blind and equal justice so long as you don't run afoul of the Democrats in power.
If you are unpopular, you could be looking at not only unprecedented actions and fines, but a need to virtually liquidate your assets just to be able to appeal a decision.
This should shock the conscience of anyone concerned about the integrity and fairness of the New York legal system. Confiscatory fines and required deposits leave not just defendants but the entire system bankrupt.
Oldsouljer said:Sad part is, the proponents don't understand or care that this can happen to them and all of us for that matter, as the rule of law has broken down.packgrad said:
Great read from Turley.The NY Post is out with my column on the poison pill contained in the recent $455 million judgment against Trump. In order to appeal, he has to come up with that amount or a bond for that amount. Justice Engoron proved that "nothing succeeds like excess.” https://t.co/WX7NlAl0N7
— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) February 19, 2024Imagine being so deranged to think this is ok.... pathetic.Quote:Quote:
Even the New York Times agreed that it could not find a single case in history where this statute was used against an individual or a company that did not commit a criminal offense, go bankrupt, or leave financial victims.
Engoron then combined that unprecedented application with an equally extraordinary penalty, which is greater than the gross national product of some countries.
He disgorged hundreds of millions in a case where not one dollar was lost by anyone. Indeed, the "victims" wanted to get more business from Trump and are now being prevented from doing so by Engoron.
There is also an added inequity to Engoron's decision.
Under New York law, Trump cannot appeal this ruling without depositing the full amount, including interest, in a court account. Even for Trump, $455 million is hard to come by. Likewise, a bond would require a company to guarantee payment for a defendant who has been barred from doing business in New York and is facing the need to liquidate much of his portfolio.
Nothing succeeds like excess for judges like Engoron. By imposing this astronomical figure, he can make it difficult or impossible for a defendant to appeal, absent declaring bankruptcy or selling off assets at distress prices.
The excessive fine and its basis raise serious statutory and constitutional questions. Many of us believe it should be substantially reduced or tossed out entirely.
First, however, Trump must come up with almost half a billion dollars to park with the court. Even with a bond, the high costs of securing a guarantor could come at a premium. It would cost a fortune to the bond holder just to carry the risk even if Trump prevails on appeal.
But the best that politicians like Hochul and Adams can offer is that you have nothing to fear from confiscatory actions unless you are Trump in New York.
Which is precisely why this decision should be overturned.
What is clear is that this case would never have been brought, let alone result in this massive fine, except for politics.
For example, if you are the NRA, James will seek your destruction for financial irregularities, but if you are Black Lives Matter or Al Sharpton's National Action Network, there is little real risk in such controversies.
If the only protection in New York is the discretion of figures like James, few businesses would relish the future. The message is that you can expect blind and equal justice so long as you don't run afoul of the Democrats in power.
If you are unpopular, you could be looking at not only unprecedented actions and fines, but a need to virtually liquidate your assets just to be able to appeal a decision.
This should shock the conscience of anyone concerned about the integrity and fairness of the New York legal system. Confiscatory fines and required deposits leave not just defendants but the entire system bankrupt.
BOMBSHELL REPORT: ⚠️ Judge who ruled Donald Trump defamed E Jean Carrol and ordered him to pay $83 MILLION in damages identified as THE SAME JUDGE who DISMISSED SEX-UAL ABUSE CHARGES OF A MINOR against Prince Andrew..
— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) February 25, 2024
PAYING ATTENTION NOW..
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White Men Can Trump
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Projecting, huh?SmaptyWolf said:caryking said:Exactly! Why do you bother?SmaptyWolf said:Of course you know that if you let them die, the global banking system dies. That's what "too big to fail" means. And I'm sure you have a clear picture of the ramifications of the global banking system dying.caryking said:
Exactly the reason to let them die!! If you always have a safety net, you never hit rock bottom.
Just kidding. You're the "dismantle the entire federal government, what could go wrong?" guy. Why do I bother?
"Too big to Fail" is a means for people like you to get a bailout. Unfortunately, for you, you weren't "too big to fail", so, you probably got recycled to another bank. That's kind of what happens in the federal government.
Recycle the same mentality!
The Water Cooler is the poster boy for what happens when you let rampant "up is down" disinformation poison the soul of your country. I bother so that other people reading hopefully won't go down your dark rabbit hole of being perpetually angry and vocal yet completely clueless.
I Agree With Ben pic.twitter.com/zPMuWGf9D7
— A Man Of Memes (@RickyDoggin) August 1, 2023
These folks came to America, legally back in 1998 from Cuba. He told me that he believed the media and what they said about Trump to be true.
— Ryan Fournier (@RyanAFournier) February 25, 2024
Once he realized this, he called me. I still remember this call in 2020. He was very emotional, but he told me that Trump was the…
hokiewolf said:White Men Can Trump
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