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Civ's propaganda piece also take great effort to explain why some things can't be called left wing violence, when it very clearly is/was. Attacks on Tesla for example.
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Yep, it's a worldwide problem, for the powers that be. People are waking up and speaking the truth within a media that is not presently controlled.

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AMERICA FIRST in action.
#SIeve, your side is being exposed.
#Sieve, your side will be crushed.

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#Sieve, your side is going down, pal.
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Chicago's firearms restrictions are a joke. These kids will soon be faced with the FO part of FAFO.
Democrat Party leadership and policies on full display in this one.

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I bet things like this don't show up in Civ's propaganda piece.

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#Sieve, law abiding Citizens in Chicago don't want your Democrat Party policies.
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In reply to packgrad • 1:43p
packgrad said:
I bet things like this don't show up in Civ's propaganda piece.



Lay it out for us man. Stop beating around the bush.

Every study that's ever been done has said basically the same thing but you evidently have insider info.

So what percentage of fatal violence by extremists is perpetrated by left-wing loons vs. right-wing loons?

What percentage of non-fatal violence?

Put a number on it.
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In reply to Civilized • 1:49p
Civilized said:
packgrad said:
I bet things like this don't show up in Civ's propaganda piece.



Lay it out for us man. Stop beating around the bush.

Every study that's ever been done has said basically the same thing but you evidently have insider info.

So what percentage of fatal violence by extremists is perpetrated by left-wing loons vs. right-wing loons?

What percentage of non-fatal violence?

Put a number on it.


You put up a bull**** study, right? Can you admit that? Let's stop beating around the bush. Are you a propagandist? Was the study you put up accurate?

Own your position. Let's see where you stand. I think you're a lying propagandist. Prove me wrong.

I love how it took me 5 minutes to debunk your propaganda. Bet you didn't even read it. lol.
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In reply to packgrad • 2:00p
packgrad said:
Civilized said:
packgrad said:
I bet things like this don't show up in Civ's propaganda piece.



Lay it out for us man. Stop beating around the bush.

Every study that's ever been done has said basically the same thing but you evidently have insider info.

So what percentage of fatal violence by extremists is perpetrated by left-wing loons vs. right-wing loons?

What percentage of non-fatal violence?

Put a number on it.


You put up a bull**** study, right? Can you admit that? Let's stop beating around the bush. Are you a propagandist? Was the study you put up accurate?

Own your position. Let's see where you stand. I think you're a lying propagandist. Prove me wrong.

I love how it took me 5 minutes to debunk your propaganda. Bet you didn't even read it. lol.


You mean Fox News put up the study and then the Administration embarrassingly misinterpreted it.

You can slice the numbers however you want; they always show the same thing. There is a mountain of evidence out there.

Here's a challenge for you: if it's so clear the study is bull****, then go find a study from any sort of reputable source (i.e. not Werewolf) that shows something different.

If it's so clearly bull**** and the numbers are so clearly skewed, surely there's a study somewhere out there to back you up right? Somewhere? Anywhere?

We both know that study doesn't exist, because that's not what any of the numbers show.
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#SIeve is a piece of work, hopelessly lost in the matrix.
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In reply to Civilized • 2:06p
Civilized said:
packgrad said:
Civilized said:
packgrad said:
I bet things like this don't show up in Civ's propaganda piece.



Lay it out for us man. Stop beating around the bush.

Every study that's ever been done has said basically the same thing but you evidently have insider info.

So what percentage of fatal violence by extremists is perpetrated by left-wing loons vs. right-wing loons?

What percentage of non-fatal violence?

Put a number on it.


You put up a bull**** study, right? Can you admit that? Let's stop beating around the bush. Are you a propagandist? Was the study you put up accurate?

Own your position. Let's see where you stand. I think you're a lying propagandist. Prove me wrong.

I love how it took me 5 minutes to debunk your propaganda. Bet you didn't even read it. lol.


You mean Fox News put up the study and then the Administration embarrassingly misinterpreted it.

You can slice the numbers however you want; they always show the same thing. There is a mountain of evidence out there.

Here's a challenge for you: if it's so clear the study is bull****, then go find a study from any sort of reputable source (i.e. not Werewolf) that shows something different.

If it's so clearly bull**** and the numbers are so clearly skewed, surely there's a study somewhere out there to back you up right? Somewhere? Anywhere?

We both know that study doesn't exist, because that's not what any of the numbers show.


Are you saying the numbers aren't CLEARLY bull***** I literally laid it out for you with just the police murders and the Nashville ****** shooting. Are you really that much of a lying propagandist?

Are their number correct, Civ? **** every other study you claim says the same thing. Just answer this one study. Are they correct?

Take the L, Civ. This was way too easy. Perhaps you should read what you post instead of just being a minion.
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I posted this earlier in this thread, but civ truly accentuates the point today. Zero integrity.

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Out of the weeds of the day, here's a 6 minute and 25 second explanation of a 250-yr war with the British and their global aspirations......from a lunar perspective. It's a pretty good caption for what's underway.
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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 2:31p
SmaptyWolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
Civilized said:
caryking said:
Civilized said:
Was pretty unplugged this weekend and didn't see until this morning that a loon drove into, shot up, and burned down a church in Michigan yesterday. Evidently at least four people were murdered while they worshiped.

Just popped in here this morning to crowd-source info on Kash Patel live-streaming potential lefty bullet engravings, Vance or Trump tweet-vomiting rhetoric about radical lefty lunatics, truth bombs from posters here about the party of hate and violence, or anything else that may help clue me in as to who this deranged shooter was.

Not seeing anything here though. Weird.


Regardless of the political affiliation this person was, this type of violence is not good. People are stoked and are wanting to do something unthoughtful…

Civ, as you may have said, we will get a maniac or two that will end up being from my political Ideology. Right now, it is from your political ideology and I wish you would just recognize that.

Please call me out if and when the tied turns my way and I don't call out the violence.


You keep saying "it is from your political ideology," despite this church shooter, the school shooter the day Kirk was killed, and many others in recent months not being "from my political ideology."

You're acting like right-wing loons have been historically rare.

Why do you continue saying something that is so obviously completely untrue?

Are you just turning a blind eye to reality or are you actually misinterpreting data that badly, which is obviously a problem in this Administration also as evidenced just yesterday by this rocket surgeon-level analysis:



It is what I said when Kirk was killed - a huge problem that does not abide by party affiliation.

This is not a Dem or Pub thing. Sadly gun violence and mass shootings it is very much an American thing, perpetrated by both lefty and righty loons (far more by righties historically) and one that no other country in the world experiences to the same extent we do.

We're wasting time doing the "your team/my team" thing with this problem. It's totally unproductive. Loons from "both sides" perpetrate the violence, and victims from both sides bleed out from the shots fired.

The only question we should discussing is "What can our leaders do to improve this situation?"

It would be interesting to see the criteria used for classifying these events as "right-wing" or "left-wing".

Lol, oh really? It's amazing how much nuance you guys discover the second a horrific shooter might be a right winger.

This shooter/arsonist was a marine Iraq war vet who apparently thought that Mormons were "the antichrist" and had a Trump 2024 sign on his fence.

So by Water Cooler standards recently, what can we say about the entire right wing now? Which billionaire MAGA financiers should we arrest?

"You guys"? Please elaborate on who the rest of "us guys" are.

I simply said that " It would be interesting to see the criteria used for classifying these events".

One might interpret your reaction as a sign that you know there is something inherently suspect about the data, as you focus entirely on one recent event. I'm curious about the entire dataset.
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...........and back to the day-to-day weeds at the ground.
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In reply to El Lobo Loco • 2:48p
El Lobo Loco said:
SmaptyWolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
Civilized said:
caryking said:
Civilized said:
Was pretty unplugged this weekend and didn't see until this morning that a loon drove into, shot up, and burned down a church in Michigan yesterday. Evidently at least four people were murdered while they worshiped.

Just popped in here this morning to crowd-source info on Kash Patel live-streaming potential lefty bullet engravings, Vance or Trump tweet-vomiting rhetoric about radical lefty lunatics, truth bombs from posters here about the party of hate and violence, or anything else that may help clue me in as to who this deranged shooter was.

Not seeing anything here though. Weird.


Regardless of the political affiliation this person was, this type of violence is not good. People are stoked and are wanting to do something unthoughtful…

Civ, as you may have said, we will get a maniac or two that will end up being from my political Ideology. Right now, it is from your political ideology and I wish you would just recognize that.

Please call me out if and when the tied turns my way and I don't call out the violence.


You keep saying "it is from your political ideology," despite this church shooter, the school shooter the day Kirk was killed, and many others in recent months not being "from my political ideology."

You're acting like right-wing loons have been historically rare.

Why do you continue saying something that is so obviously completely untrue?

Are you just turning a blind eye to reality or are you actually misinterpreting data that badly, which is obviously a problem in this Administration also as evidenced just yesterday by this rocket surgeon-level analysis:



It is what I said when Kirk was killed - a huge problem that does not abide by party affiliation.

This is not a Dem or Pub thing. Sadly gun violence and mass shootings it is very much an American thing, perpetrated by both lefty and righty loons (far more by righties historically) and one that no other country in the world experiences to the same extent we do.

We're wasting time doing the "your team/my team" thing with this problem. It's totally unproductive. Loons from "both sides" perpetrate the violence, and victims from both sides bleed out from the shots fired.

The only question we should discussing is "What can our leaders do to improve this situation?"

It would be interesting to see the criteria used for classifying these events as "right-wing" or "left-wing".

Lol, oh really? It's amazing how much nuance you guys discover the second a horrific shooter might be a right winger.

This shooter/arsonist was a marine Iraq war vet who apparently thought that Mormons were "the antichrist" and had a Trump 2024 sign on his fence.

So by Water Cooler standards recently, what can we say about the entire right wing now? Which billionaire MAGA financiers should we arrest?

"You guys"? Please elaborate on who the rest of "us guys" are.

I simply said that " It would be interesting to see the criteria used for classifying these events".

One might interpret your reaction as a sign that you know there is something inherently suspect about the data, as you focus entirely on one recent event. I'm curious about the entire dataset.

Were you "interested to see the criteria used for classifying these events" after the Charlie Kirk shooting when all of MAGA all the way up to the President were racing before we knew anything to tie the shooter to every Dem in the country? I don't recall you communicating that.

My reaction is actually the opposite... I'd assume you're "just interested" because you naturally assume these researchers are playing the same game that MAGA is obviously playing.
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Who's ready? #Sieve, are you ready?
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Cohesive strategery

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I personally don't red these study's as I've lost complete faith in them. That said, we can do our own study by listing all the recent violent (define that word how you want) attacks and let's see how the numbers fall.

Who wants to start the list?

Civ, Smapty, start the list and we can go from there…
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In reply to caryking • 5:16p
caryking said:
I personally don't red these study's as I've lost complete faith in them. That said, we can do our own study by listing all the recent violent (define that word how you want) attacks and let's see how the numbers fall.

Who wants to start the list?

Civ, Smapty, start the list and we can go from there…


At this point, I'd love to see more of these "studies" and how they came up with their numbers. It's clear the one Civ referenced was complete nonsense. Let's see the others. He's said he has researched this topic in depth. Let's see more of "the data".

I have a feeling it's the same across the board with civ's "studies". Propaganda.
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Crumbs and crumbs ....we can get there.
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What non-essential govt functions would Trump keep open? What truly is essential at the Federal level?
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In reply to Civilized • 5:39p
Civilized said:
caryking said:
Civilized said:
Was pretty unplugged this weekend and didn't see until this morning that a loon drove into, shot up, and burned down a church in Michigan yesterday. Evidently at least four people were murdered while they worshiped.

Just popped in here this morning to crowd-source info on Kash Patel live-streaming potential lefty bullet engravings, Vance or Trump tweet-vomiting rhetoric about radical lefty lunatics, truth bombs from posters here about the party of hate and violence, or anything else that may help clue me in as to who this deranged shooter was.

Not seeing anything here though. Weird.


Regardless of the political affiliation this person was, this type of violence is not good. People are stoked and are wanting to do something unthoughtful…

Civ, as you may have said, we will get a maniac or two that will end up being from my political Ideology. Right now, it is from your political ideology and I wish you would just recognize that.

Please call me out if and when the tied turns my way and I don't call out the violence.


You keep saying "it is from your political ideology," despite this church shooter, the school shooter the day Kirk was killed, and many others in recent months not being "from my political ideology."

You're acting like right-wing loons have been historically rare.

Why do you continue saying something that is so obviously completely untrue?

Are you just turning a blind eye to reality or are you actually misinterpreting data that badly, which is obviously a problem in this Administration also as evidenced just yesterday by this rocket surgeon-level analysis:



It is what I said when Kirk was killed - a huge problem that does not abide by party affiliation.

This is not a Dem or Pub thing. Sadly gun violence and mass shootings it is very much an American thing, perpetrated by both lefty and righty loons (far more by righties historically) and one that no other country in the world experiences to the same extent we do.

We're wasting time doing the "your team/my team" thing with this problem. It's totally unproductive. Loons from "both sides" perpetrate the violence, and victims from both sides bleed out from the shots fired.

The only question we should discussing is "What can our leaders do to improve this situation?"


What can our leaders do to improve this situation? How about stop with the hateful rhetoric? You know: Hitler, fascist, Nazi, dictator, threat to our democracy, Russia-Russia-Russia…..etc.

That might be a positive step forward?
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In reply to Werewolf • 5:53p
Werewolf said:
#Sieve, your side is going down, pal.


I enjoyed that. Thank you for posting.
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5:57p
I can't imagine this father's pain. It's time to start holding these judges accountable for letting people like this out on the streets.

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