BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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How exactly is an isolationist candidate going to reverse course on US foreign policy?

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If you mean "leading from behind" like Dear Leader taught Sleepy Joe to do you can have that.

President Trump may not have kissed the ass of every foreign leader like your party does and that's fine with me. He damn sure kept Putin out of the Ukraine and he damn sure had President Xi's attention.

You claiming he is not a better option that what is there now is laughable. But, you are still butt hurt because President Trump "hurt your precious little feewlings...."

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hokiewolf said:

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Werewolf said:

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1st and foremost........by not starting WW3. Of course, we know you'd like us to continue to poke Russia and escalate.

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you have a whole thread on other countries dropping the dollar but you also want the US to stay within its borders. Which is it?

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pman27 said:

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No point in replying point by point to my prior discussion thread. I am aware that there's no convincing anyone to change their minds - some are effectively radicalized to their view points. I see plenty of ad hominem attacks and asymmetrical arguments here. Trying to counter argue only makes those dig in deeper, or continue troll/pwn. Have fun, I'm not playing along.

I apologies for thinking I could provide some information that clarifies what is being distorted. At the end of the day, all the distortion and lies only benefit one person.

Trump has been the target of legal action for 50 years, dating back to he and his father not renting apartments to minorities in NYC. He's been at both ends of countless civil suits, is known to underpay or not pay people who work or do work for him and then outlast them with deep pockets and more lawyers. The fact that many around Trump have gone to jail or are facing legal action isn't because it is a witch hunt or organized effort to attack him and those around him, it is because his associates are mostly con man and commit crimes. And Trump is an innocent? Right.

Personally, I see no reason why anyone with any ability to apply dispassionate logic and common sense would support Trump - he's proven to be an incompetent businessman (his daddy made his money, nearly all Trump's businesses have lost money) and an incompetent chief executive. He's a shyster - he's had businesses and his charity shut down, he only looks out for himself, raises funds for himself. Everything he accuses other of doing is actual what he is doing (or he is doing worse). The examples are numerous and exhausting to list.

Trump is not looking out for you. His argument is that "if they can do it to me then they can do it to you". They already can do it to you - if you are committing the crimes Trump has. They can do it to him because they can do it to any American if that person commits a crime.

You want him? Have him, but keep him to yourself, don't force him on the rest of the country. Trump's appeal is entertainment, has he delivered on anything he's promised other than appointing judges and warping the Supreme Court into an activist court that no longer "just calls balls and strikes:? Where's the hundreds of millions he raised for his defense? Why is everything that happens to him turned into a recurring fund raising opportunity? Follow the money, it isn't building a wall. Bannon tried that one as a private fundraiser and the money end up in his and others' pockets.

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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How exactly is an isolationist candidate going to reverse course on US foreign policy?

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If you mean "leading from behind" like Dear Leader taught Sleepy Joe to do you can have that.

President Trump may not have kissed the ass of every foreign leader like your party does and that's fine with me. He damn sure kept Putin out of the Ukraine and he damn sure had President Xi's attention.

You claiming he is not a better option that what is there now is laughable. But, you are still butt hurt because President Trump "hurt your precious little feewlings...."

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BREAKING: The daughter of the Manhattan judge presiding over the Trump criminal case is a Democratic political strategist who worked on the congressional campaign of Democrat Rep. ADAM SCHIFF, who led the first impeachment of Trump

— Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) April 4, 2023

Glasswolf said:

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You keep saying "our/your" time is coming. When? I've been waiting for 7 years since Trump took office and the "leftist, Marxist " regime went after him.

And I agree in the grand scheme of things this is a giant waist of time and most likely a political job. The Georgia case and the document case are much bigger.

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Marco said:

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34 felony counts! Defend that, MAGA maniacs!! Falsifying business records!!

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Trump indictments have just been released:

- Falsifying Trump Org general ledger with intent to defraud
- Falsifying business records in the first degree
- Accused of possible threatening social media posts, such as "death and destruction"
- Hush money payments

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) April 4, 2023

packgrad said:

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Glasswolf said:

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You keep saying "our/your" time is coming. When? I've been waiting for 7 years since Trump took office and the "leftist, Marxist " regime went after him.

And I agree in the grand scheme of things this is a giant waist of time and most likely a political job. The Georgia case and the document case are much bigger.

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They're a waste of time as well, but its another thing yall can cheerlead for until the next hitjob comes up.

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packgrad said:

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Glasswolf said:

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You keep saying "our/your" time is coming. When? I've been waiting for 7 years since Trump took office and the "leftist, Marxist " regime went after him.

And I agree in the grand scheme of things this is a giant waist of time and most likely a political job. The Georgia case and the document case are much bigger.

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They're a waste of time as well, but its another thing yall can cheerlead for until the next hitjob comes up.

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Unbelievable support for Donald Trump for miles as he departs to New York! pic.twitter.com/xEoh5rkJ3g

— Ray 'Cutter' Spaulding (@CryptidsAuthor) April 3, 2023

BBW12OG said:

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pman27 said:

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No point in replying point by point to my prior discussion thread. I am aware that there's no convincing anyone to change their minds - some are effectively radicalized to their view points. I see plenty of ad hominem attacks and asymmetrical arguments here. Trying to counter argue only makes those dig in deeper, or continue troll/pwn. Have fun, I'm not playing along.

I apologies for thinking I could provide some information that clarifies what is being distorted. At the end of the day, all the distortion and lies only benefit one person.

Trump has been the target of legal action for 50 years, dating back to he and his father not renting apartments to minorities in NYC. He's been at both ends of countless civil suits, is known to underpay or not pay people who work or do work for him and then outlast them with deep pockets and more lawyers. The fact that many around Trump have gone to jail or are facing legal action isn't because it is a witch hunt or organized effort to attack him and those around him, it is because his associates are mostly con man and commit crimes. And Trump is an innocent? Right.

Personally, I see no reason why anyone with any ability to apply dispassionate logic and common sense would support Trump - he's proven to be an incompetent businessman (his daddy made his money, nearly all Trump's businesses have lost money) and an incompetent chief executive. He's a shyster - he's had businesses and his charity shut down, he only looks out for himself, raises funds for himself. Everything he accuses other of doing is actual what he is doing (or he is doing worse). The examples are numerous and exhausting to list.

Trump is not looking out for you. His argument is that "if they can do it to me then they can do it to you". They already can do it to you - if you are committing the crimes Trump has. They can do it to him because they can do it to any American if that person commits a crime.

You want him? Have him, but keep him to yourself, don't force him on the rest of the country. Trump's appeal is entertainment, has he delivered on anything he's promised other than appointing judges and warping the Supreme Court into an activist court that no longer "just calls balls and strikes:? Where's the hundreds of millions he raised for his defense? Why is everything that happens to him turned into a recurring fund raising opportunity? Follow the money, it isn't building a wall. Bannon tried that one as a private fundraiser and the money end up in his and others' pockets.

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And when he is cleared of all charges, re-elected and goes after some of your MARXIST brethren are you going to be OK?

Look at some of the posters on here and over a PP... they've been a total wreck for 7 years.

You can say what you want about President Trump... But.. there is one thing that you can't say that he wants and that is to "fundamentally change America..."

THAT is exactly what people like you and the rest of the MARXISTS on this board support.

So bang your drums, blow your horns, high-five one another about President Trump being fingerprinted etc..... what's going to be funny, as it has been the last 7 years, is when he is cleared and you pillow biting lefties are crying again......

Enjoy comrades... your time is coming.

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pman27 said:

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No point in replying point by point to my prior discussion thread. I am aware that there's no convincing anyone to change their minds - some are effectively radicalized to their view points. I see plenty of ad hominem attacks and asymmetrical arguments here. Trying to counter argue only makes those dig in deeper, or continue troll/pwn. Have fun, I'm not playing along.

I apologies for thinking I could provide some information that clarifies what is being distorted. At the end of the day, all the distortion and lies only benefit one person.

Trump has been the target of legal action for 50 years, dating back to he and his father not renting apartments to minorities in NYC. He's been at both ends of countless civil suits, is known to underpay or not pay people who work or do work for him and then outlast them with deep pockets and more lawyers. The fact that many around Trump have gone to jail or are facing legal action isn't because it is a witch hunt or organized effort to attack him and those around him, it is because his associates are mostly con man and commit crimes. And Trump is an innocent? Right.

Personally, I see no reason why anyone with any ability to apply dispassionate logic and common sense would support Trump - he's proven to be an incompetent businessman (his daddy made his money, nearly all Trump's businesses have lost money) and an incompetent chief executive. He's a shyster - he's had businesses and his charity shut down, he only looks out for himself, raises funds for himself. Everything he accuses other of doing is actual what he is doing (or he is doing worse). The examples are numerous and exhausting to list.

Trump is not looking out for you. His argument is that "if they can do it to me then they can do it to you". They already can do it to you - if you are committing the crimes Trump has. They can do it to him because they can do it to any American if that person commits a crime.

You want him? Have him, but keep him to yourself, don't force him on the rest of the country. Trump's appeal is entertainment, has he delivered on anything he's promised other than appointing judges and warping the Supreme Court into an activist court that no longer "just calls balls and strikes:? Where's the hundreds of millions he raised for his defense? Why is everything that happens to him turned into a recurring fund raising opportunity? Follow the money, it isn't building a wall. Bannon tried that one as a private fundraiser and the money end up in his and others' pockets.

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BBW12OG said:

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pman27 said:

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No point in replying point by point to my prior discussion thread. I am aware that there's no convincing anyone to change their minds - some are effectively radicalized to their view points. I see plenty of ad hominem attacks and asymmetrical arguments here. Trying to counter argue only makes those dig in deeper, or continue troll/pwn. Have fun, I'm not playing along.

I apologies for thinking I could provide some information that clarifies what is being distorted. At the end of the day, all the distortion and lies only benefit one person.

Trump has been the target of legal action for 50 years, dating back to he and his father not renting apartments to minorities in NYC. He's been at both ends of countless civil suits, is known to underpay or not pay people who work or do work for him and then outlast them with deep pockets and more lawyers. The fact that many around Trump have gone to jail or are facing legal action isn't because it is a witch hunt or organized effort to attack him and those around him, it is because his associates are mostly con man and commit crimes. And Trump is an innocent? Right.

Personally, I see no reason why anyone with any ability to apply dispassionate logic and common sense would support Trump - he's proven to be an incompetent businessman (his daddy made his money, nearly all Trump's businesses have lost money) and an incompetent chief executive. He's a shyster - he's had businesses and his charity shut down, he only looks out for himself, raises funds for himself. Everything he accuses other of doing is actual what he is doing (or he is doing worse). The examples are numerous and exhausting to list.

Trump is not looking out for you. His argument is that "if they can do it to me then they can do it to you". They already can do it to you - if you are committing the crimes Trump has. They can do it to him because they can do it to any American if that person commits a crime.

You want him? Have him, but keep him to yourself, don't force him on the rest of the country. Trump's appeal is entertainment, has he delivered on anything he's promised other than appointing judges and warping the Supreme Court into an activist court that no longer "just calls balls and strikes:? Where's the hundreds of millions he raised for his defense? Why is everything that happens to him turned into a recurring fund raising opportunity? Follow the money, it isn't building a wall. Bannon tried that one as a private fundraiser and the money end up in his and others' pockets.

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And when he is cleared of all charges, re-elected and goes after some of your MARXIST brethren are you going to be OK?

Look at some of the posters on here and over a PP... they've been a total wreck for 7 years.

You can say what you want about President Trump... But.. there is one thing that you can't say that he wants and that is to "fundamentally change America..."

THAT is exactly what people like you and the rest of the MARXISTS on this board support.

So bang your drums, blow your horns, high-five one another about President Trump being fingerprinted etc..... what's going to be funny, as it has been the last 7 years, is when he is cleared and you pillow biting lefties are crying again......

Enjoy comrades... your time is coming.

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BBW12OG said:

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When all of you anti-Trumpers get through jacking it why don't you ask yourself this simple question....

If the person you hold closest and dearest to your hearts was targeted and and entire political/government entity was out to get them and you had irrefutable proof it was happening would you be upset?

Regardless of their guilt or innocence you knew the deck was stacked against them would you be upset?

If it had been going on for 7 years straight and all of the "local" media outlets portrayed them as the devil or worse would you be upset?

Now GTFOH with all of your BS about "we got to do this for America."

President Trump has been targeted because you know damn well everything that President Trump is being charged with half of D.C. has done and much worse.

Ironically.... every damn judge, D.A., etc... that presides over his cases always seem to be appointed by a MARXIST..... I know there have been a judge or two that President Trump appointed but once they get on the bench in D.C. they get sucked in/paid off with promises of their families being taken care of...

See below...

BREAKING: The daughter of the Manhattan judge presiding over the Trump criminal case is a Democratic political strategist who worked on the congressional campaign of Democrat Rep. ADAM SCHIFF, who led the first impeachment of Trump

— Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) April 4, 2023

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ncsualum05 said:

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Ok holy hell. I avoid politics and news and lately it is slamming me in the face no matter where I look. Our country is DEAD. It doesn't exist anymore. Between all the ****** bull**** and woke culture, to the oppression of it's own law abiding citizens, the debt, the waste, and now the rest of the world basically taking over the power structure. I wasn't the least bit excited about Trump running again but **** it... he's got my vote if he's the guy. Although I believe it's too late for any course reversal... we still need to get the crazy *******s out that are there now. I don't know what the future holds but are my children going to grow up needing to leave the country and live elsewhere? Will they even have a chance?

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Marco said:

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pman27 said:

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No point in replying point by point to my prior discussion thread. I am aware that there's no convincing anyone to change their minds - some are effectively radicalized to their view points. I see plenty of ad hominem attacks and asymmetrical arguments here. Trying to counter argue only makes those dig in deeper, or continue troll/pwn. Have fun, I'm not playing along.

I apologies for thinking I could provide some information that clarifies what is being distorted. At the end of the day, all the distortion and lies only benefit one person.

Trump has been the target of legal action for 50 years, dating back to he and his father not renting apartments to minorities in NYC. He's been at both ends of countless civil suits, is known to underpay or not pay people who work or do work for him and then outlast them with deep pockets and more lawyers. The fact that many around Trump have gone to jail or are facing legal action isn't because it is a witch hunt or organized effort to attack him and those around him, it is because his associates are mostly con man and commit crimes. And Trump is an innocent? Right.

Personally, I see no reason why anyone with any ability to apply dispassionate logic and common sense would support Trump - he's proven to be an incompetent businessman (his daddy made his money, nearly all Trump's businesses have lost money) and an incompetent chief executive. He's a shyster - he's had businesses and his charity shut down, he only looks out for himself, raises funds for himself. Everything he accuses other of doing is actual what he is doing (or he is doing worse). The examples are numerous and exhausting to list.

Trump is not looking out for you. His argument is that "if they can do it to me then they can do it to you". They already can do it to you - if you are committing the crimes Trump has. They can do it to him because they can do it to any American if that person commits a crime.

You want him? Have him, but keep him to yourself, don't force him on the rest of the country. Trump's appeal is entertainment, has he delivered on anything he's promised other than appointing judges and warping the Supreme Court into an activist court that no longer "just calls balls and strikes:? Where's the hundreds of millions he raised for his defense? Why is everything that happens to him turned into a recurring fund raising opportunity? Follow the money, it isn't building a wall. Bannon tried that one as a private fundraiser and the money end up in his and others' pockets.

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ConMan is God on this board!! You didn't know? Lol!!

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NCTrafficMan said:

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At this point if you are still donating to the orange turd trump you deserve to loose your money.
Grifter donnie is gonna grift and his cult members are too stupid to wise up.

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Packchem91 said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Ok holy hell. I avoid politics and news and lately it is slamming me in the face no matter where I look. Our country is DEAD. It doesn't exist anymore. Between all the ****** bull**** and woke culture, to the oppression of it's own law abiding citizens, the debt, the waste, and now the rest of the world basically taking over the power structure. I wasn't the least bit excited about Trump running again but **** it... he's got my vote if he's the guy. Although I believe it's too late for any course reversal... we still need to get the crazy *******s out that are there now. I don't know what the future holds but are my children going to grow up needing to leave the country and live elsewhere? Will they even have a chance?

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Is this a serious post?
If so, I encourage you to come on my next mission trip, and see awesome the US is. There is a reason it is still so desireable to come here -- despite its warts -- for people all over the world.
Trump can say embarrassing comments, Biden do the same -- but the beauty of the US is, our political balance of powers and ability to change things to correct previous mistakes w/o fear of civil wars and violence, keeps ups at the top of hte list.

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caryking said:

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pman27 said:

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No point in replying point by point to my prior discussion thread. I am aware that there's no convincing anyone to change their minds - some are effectively radicalized to their view points. I see plenty of ad hominem attacks and asymmetrical arguments here. Trying to counter argue only makes those dig in deeper, or continue troll/pwn. Have fun, I'm not playing along.

I apologies for thinking I could provide some information that clarifies what is being distorted. At the end of the day, all the distortion and lies only benefit one person.

Trump has been the target of legal action for 50 years, dating back to he and his father not renting apartments to minorities in NYC. He's been at both ends of countless civil suits, is known to underpay or not pay people who work or do work for him and then outlast them with deep pockets and more lawyers. The fact that many around Trump have gone to jail or are facing legal action isn't because it is a witch hunt or organized effort to attack him and those around him, it is because his associates are mostly con man and commit crimes. And Trump is an innocent? Right.

Personally, I see no reason why anyone with any ability to apply dispassionate logic and common sense would support Trump - he's proven to be an incompetent businessman (his daddy made his money, nearly all Trump's businesses have lost money) and an incompetent chief executive. He's a shyster - he's had businesses and his charity shut down, he only looks out for himself, raises funds for himself. Everything he accuses other of doing is actual what he is doing (or he is doing worse). The examples are numerous and exhausting to list.

Trump is not looking out for you. His argument is that "if they can do it to me then they can do it to you". They already can do it to you - if you are committing the crimes Trump has. They can do it to him because they can do it to any American if that person commits a crime.

You want him? Have him, but keep him to yourself, don't force him on the rest of the country. Trump's appeal is entertainment, has he delivered on anything he's promised other than appointing judges and warping the Supreme Court into an activist court that no longer "just calls balls and strikes:? Where's the hundreds of millions he raised for his defense? Why is everything that happens to him turned into a recurring fund raising opportunity? Follow the money, it isn't building a wall. Bannon tried that one as a private fundraiser and the money end up in his and others' pockets.

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That is the most arrogant post made, in some time. Your pompous attitude created MAGA! People don't need Trump; rather, they trust him more than any other candidate that's come around, in a long time.

I think everyone knows Trump is far from perfect; so, please climb down of your elitist ideology.

Oh, and BTW… accuse Trump of having an inappropriate conversation with Ukraine's President, while Biden bragged about doing exactly the same thing…

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BBW12OG said:

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Pman, Civ, Hokie, Plasma, Manny, Marco/Wendy all of them today will have to clean their computer screens...

After 7 years of trying to "get Trump" they have him in a courtroom. Great job comrades.....

Now clean off your computers and get ready for him to be acquitted.

Then you can start jacking it again waiting on the next big controversy that you ****ing losers will slurp up.

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