packofwolves said:
Civilized said:
packofwolves said:
Civilized said:
packofwolves said:
Civilized said:
packofwolves said:
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packofwolves said:
Extremely strong…that's laughable.
What do you think of the Biden administration's support of mutilating and chemically sterilizing children. And a hospital breaking the law.
How do you know it's laughable? The case hasn't been tried yet. We do know it's distinctly not in the DOJ's best interests to bring a weak case, for which they will be roundly criticized even more than they already will be for vengeance lawfare.
Clearly you're triggered by gender-affirming care, which is obviously a fraught and complicated topic.
But what's not fraught or complicated is if either doctors or the hospital broke the law, they should be held fully accountable.
The case hasn't been tried yet. How do you know it's a strong case? The Biden DOJ has lost cases.
I see you deflected away from your opinion on gender affirming care.
Yeah, because opinions on care have no bearing on whether this doctor broke HIPAA laws or not, and that's the only thing that matters when deciding whether to pursue the case.
My opinion is health care decisions including gender-affirming care should be left up to medical experts and families and patients, not the government.
Some of y'all want to act like lefties are just looking for any excuse to lop off twigs and berries because it's fun.
Some close friends of our family have a child in Raleigh we've grown up with that's going through some of this. The family are great folks, salt of the earth. Not political. Not stumpers for Biden. Dad grew up a big football/track/wrestling guy in high school. Scholarship track athlete in the Big East in college. Extremely loving and thoughtful parents of three kids. Their daughter has grown up around ours since kindergarten. School together. Camping with us. Overnights with us. All sorts of activities together over the years. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that situations like these are stressful, fraught, and complicated. And that parents and the kids and their doctors are infinitely better equipped to make decisions in these circumstances than the government.
If the doc broke HIPAA laws, he should be held accountable. Same with the hospital breaking laws. You agree with that, right?
For the record, I have no issue if someone changes gender. Be happy with the life you have, But I am firmly against non-reversible medical treatments and surgeries for children under 18. Based on studies coming out of UK and Europe, even medications have non-reversible changes.
Good to know you draw the line with the government. But I expect we differ on laws that protect children under 18 from non-reversible changes.
If he broke HIPPA yes, but I am very skeptical of the Biden administration and DOJ. I think they will stop at nothing to push their agenda on children.
Why do you think you're better equipped to make medical decisions for someone else's child than that child's parents and doctors (in conjunction with the teenage child him/herself)?
The thing y'all continually ignore is that in essentially all cases, kids under 18 aren't undergoing non-reversible gender-affirming care with the consent and support of their parents and medical team unless they are in significant anguish over their dysmorphia and there is a fair belief amongst the involved parties that care will improve their well-being in the aggregate.
So if you "protect" kids from gender-affirming care in this circumstance, you are subjecting them to continued crisis from their dysmorphia.
At that fork in the road, both avaialble paths (to pursue GA care, or not) are fraught and complicated. There are no easy answers. But neither path is one without pain or potential regret.
I assume you haven't followed any of the detransitioning stories.
Considering you think children under 18 transitioning is ok with meds/surgery and the decision best made between parents, child and doctor, do you agree with schools/teachers not telling parents about their kids transitioning at school?
I've followed them.
And they should be, and are already, considered by those making the decisions.
All detransitioning stories do is illustrate the fraught nature of the topic. They damn sure don't make me think "oh wow maybe the government should step in here and outright ban one prospective avenue of care for kids in crisis. That will definitely make this situation better."
This is analogous to saying you want to ban abortion because some women regretted having an abortion after they did.
It's not the government's role to try to protect people from their own prospective future regret for their decisions about difficult topics made in challenging circumstances.
Abortion isn't even close in comparison. A woman can still have another baby. A girl that transitions can't get her uterus back that was removed by surgery as a child.
No opinion on schools and teachers? Is it right to hide transitioning from parents?
How does teachers hiding transitioning from parents work? Serious question. We were taking about medical procedures before. Are we still talking about that or something else?
I assume something else since I don't think teachers are offering pro bono double mastectomies in English class, without permission slips nonetheless.
So what are we talking about?
Michael asking his teachers to call him Mary?
Michael going to the restroom after he gets off the bus and taking off his jeans and throwing on a dress, that he changes back out of before he goes home?
Michael telling the swim coach he identifies as Mary and wants to swim on the girls swim team?