caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

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How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

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In 1974, Biden bought a home in Greenville for $185,000. Monthly payments on that were maybe a little high for a Senate salary of $44,000, but well within normal. In 1996 he sold the house for $1.2 million and used the money to buy a smaller house in Greenville that was, at the time, easily affordable on a Senate salary of $133,000. Then, a few years ago, using money from speaking fees, he bought a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach for $2.7 million.

That's it. Biden currently owns two homes, one that was easily affordable on a Senate salary and a second that was paid for out of post-vice-presidential speaking fees. There's nothing there. At all.

But you guys keep up the good work CONNECTING THE DOTS! The Dems appreciate your service helping them retake the House in 2024.

SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

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How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

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In 1974, Biden bought a home in Greenville for $185,000. Monthly payments on that were maybe a little high for a Senate salary of $44,000, but well within normal. In 1996 he sold the house for $1.2 million and used the money to buy a smaller house in Greenville that was, at the time, easily affordable on a Senate salary of $133,000. Then, a few years ago, using money from speaking fees, he bought a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach for $2.7 million.

That's it. Biden currently owns two homes, one that was easily affordable on a Senate salary and a second that was paid for out of post-vice-presidential speaking fees. There's nothing there. At all.

But you guys keep up the good work CONNECTING THE DOTS! The Dems appreciate your service helping them retake the House in 2024.

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LOL.... love it when the party that thinks men can have babies and women have testicles chime in.

Don't you have a pedo party to attend or some type of drag queen library reading?

These kids aren't going to get told about 147 different genders with you wasting your time on this board.

Now be a good libbie and go pervert some children.

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

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How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

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In 1974, Biden bought a home in Greenville for $185,000. Monthly payments on that were maybe a little high for a Senate salary of $44,000, but well within normal. In 1996 he sold the house for $1.2 million and used the money to buy a smaller house in Greenville that was, at the time, easily affordable on a Senate salary of $133,000. Then, a few years ago, using money from speaking fees, he bought a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach for $2.7 million.

That's it. Biden currently owns two homes, one that was easily affordable on a Senate salary and a second that was paid for out of post-vice-presidential speaking fees. There's nothing there. At all.

But you guys keep up the good work CONNECTING THE DOTS! The Dems appreciate your service helping them retake the House in 2024.

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Hope you researched your info a little better on this than your BS cancer story. That was debunked in seconds.

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The fact that you need to "debunk" a grieving father's rationalization for why his relatively young Iraq War veteran son suddenly died of brain cancer is a pretty clear indication of what a bunch of demonic jackals you guys have become. Jesus.

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

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How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

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Without a doubt. Civ just parrots the cnn msnbc narrative. Wonder where he got the info that the shell companies were ALL legitimate. Notice he never sources his claims.

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ZZZZZzzzzzzzz. I post links in here all the time.

Ton of detail in these two articles:

NYT: What to know about the impeachment case against Biden

WaPo: How Republican overhype the findings of their Hunter Biden probe

From the second article:

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For instance, the second staff memo never says that Hunter Biden used "shell" companies a term often associated with shady or illegal activity, even though a shell company is a legitimate entity. Comer once described such an entity as "a fake company … they don't make anything. They don't produce anything. They don't provide a good or service." He is not wrong about many shell companies, but the memo lists real companies, with active websites and real business functions. (The third staff memo refers to just one "shell" company, which we will describe later.)

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As for the $20 million in payments, Comer and other Republicans invoke this figure often. A close reading of the memos, however, finds that only about $7 million can be directly attributed to Biden family members, mostly Hunter, while the rest went to "associates," according to the memos. Yet Comer and other lawmakers misleadingly suggest all of the money went to the Biden family or, as some label it, "the Biden crime family." No evidence has emerged that any of these funds can be traced to Joe Biden himself.

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Virtually all of the companies (many of which now are defunct) had legitimate business interests. Others had clearly identified business investments. Digging through the records, we find only three whose business purpose remains vague; one (Rosemont Seneca Global Risk Services, LLC) may not even be related to Hunter Biden, according to an email found in Hunter Biden's laptop. The memos do not list any payments that flowed through these three companies.

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Again, Hunter is a complete mess that's been charged and will be convicted of or will ultimately plead out to gun, drug, and tax crimes.

That said, he and his business activities have been investigated for the last 5 years. If there was a sweater string to pull that led to evidence of illegal Biden Crime Family activity my suspicion is that it would have been discovered already.

But no harm in continuing to investigate. Leave no stone unturned. Like I've said a million times on here, I don't want him as our next President so it's not going to bother me a bit if he ends up going down (although I hope that it just disqualifies him from being our next President; as much as I don't want him to be President I REALLY don't want him to have to step down and Kamala to sit in the grown-up's chair).

I just think Pubs in Washington are full of **** when they're acting RIGHT NOW like they have evidence of criminal activity that reaches Joe. They're grandstanding just like Dems would do if the situation were reversed (and frankly, just like Dems did when they tried to make the leap from Trump fellating Putin and obviously reveling in Russian interference to him having actively colluded with Russia).

There was smoke there but ultimately no fire and I think that's the most likely outcome here too.

Oldsouljer said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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packgrad said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

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How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

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In 1974, Biden bought a home in Greenville for $185,000. Monthly payments on that were maybe a little high for a Senate salary of $44,000, but well within normal. In 1996 he sold the house for $1.2 million and used the money to buy a smaller house in Greenville that was, at the time, easily affordable on a Senate salary of $133,000. Then, a few years ago, using money from speaking fees, he bought a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach for $2.7 million.

That's it. Biden currently owns two homes, one that was easily affordable on a Senate salary and a second that was paid for out of post-vice-presidential speaking fees. There's nothing there. At all.

But you guys keep up the good work CONNECTING THE DOTS! The Dems appreciate your service helping them retake the House in 2024.

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Hope you researched your info a little better on this than your BS cancer story. That was debunked in seconds.

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The fact that you need to "debunk" a grieving father's rationalization for why his relatively young Iraq War veteran son suddenly died of brain cancer is a pretty clear indication of what a bunch of demonic jackals you guys have become. Jesus.

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You appear to be indulging in a number of argumentative fallacies including appeal to motive, poisoning the well, and ergo decedo (traitorous critic fallacy). All of these are ad hominem variations but you also include appeal to ridicule and judgmental language which are sub-variants of appeal to emotion.

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Debate team?

caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

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How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

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What lifestyle does he live, exactly?

Yachts? G6 to tropical destinations on the regular? Nightly private Hibachi chefs? Stable full of Clydesdales?

packofwolves said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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packgrad said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

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How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

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In 1974, Biden bought a home in Greenville for $185,000. Monthly payments on that were maybe a little high for a Senate salary of $44,000, but well within normal. In 1996 he sold the house for $1.2 million and used the money to buy a smaller house in Greenville that was, at the time, easily affordable on a Senate salary of $133,000. Then, a few years ago, using money from speaking fees, he bought a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach for $2.7 million.

That's it. Biden currently owns two homes, one that was easily affordable on a Senate salary and a second that was paid for out of post-vice-presidential speaking fees. There's nothing there. At all.

But you guys keep up the good work CONNECTING THE DOTS! The Dems appreciate your service helping them retake the House in 2024.

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Hope you researched your info a little better on this than your BS cancer story. That was debunked in seconds.

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The fact that you need to "debunk" a grieving father's rationalization for why his relatively young Iraq War veteran son suddenly died of brain cancer is a pretty clear indication of what a bunch of demonic jackals you guys have become. Jesus.

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It is debunking your claim (that you posted as fact) regarding a link between brain cancer and Iraq war. If you are going to throw out facts, make sure the facts are accurate.

I doubt anyone on this board doesn't have sympathy for Joe and his family regarding the loss of his son. Cancer is not political and too many families are impacted by cancer every day. Terrible that Joe and family had to go through that.

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Oh please. You guys are tripping over each other to prove Biden OMG LIED about his son's death. But proving what exactly caused any given cancer is impossible, so you certainly don't know for sure, and it's certainly the case that our military has a long history of accidentally giving veterans cancer and then begrudgingly admitting it years later.

But all of that doesn't matter. Joe Biden very clearly believes that's what caused his son's death. That's good enough for me. It takes a pretty awful person to get in his face about it and call him a liar.

Seriously, do you guys ever step away from the Red Team/Blue Team crap for a second and ask yourself "Man, W T F am I even saying?"

Oldsouljer said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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packgrad said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

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How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

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In 1974, Biden bought a home in Greenville for $185,000. Monthly payments on that were maybe a little high for a Senate salary of $44,000, but well within normal. In 1996 he sold the house for $1.2 million and used the money to buy a smaller house in Greenville that was, at the time, easily affordable on a Senate salary of $133,000. Then, a few years ago, using money from speaking fees, he bought a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach for $2.7 million.

That's it. Biden currently owns two homes, one that was easily affordable on a Senate salary and a second that was paid for out of post-vice-presidential speaking fees. There's nothing there. At all.

But you guys keep up the good work CONNECTING THE DOTS! The Dems appreciate your service helping them retake the House in 2024.

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Hope you researched your info a little better on this than your BS cancer story. That was debunked in seconds.

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The fact that you need to "debunk" a grieving father's rationalization for why his relatively young Iraq War veteran son suddenly died of brain cancer is a pretty clear indication of what a bunch of demonic jackals you guys have become. Jesus.

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You appear to be indulging in a number of argumentative fallacies including appeal to motive, poisoning the well, and ergo decedo (traitorous critic fallacy). All of these are ad hominem variations but you also include appeal to ridicule and judgmental language which are sub-variants of appeal to emotion.

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In summary, yes, I think y'all have had your brains boiled by years of relentless right-wing propaganda that has you believing a bunch of laughably stupid things that require a 4th grade critical thinking class to pull apart. Feel free to translate that into Latin.

Sorry, I'll let you get back to believing that Trump, a well-known con man in the NYC area for decades, is actually the only one that can save America if only the evil FBI being led by a massive conspiracy of pedophiles would leave him alone.

Civilized said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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packgrad said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

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How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

---

In 1974, Biden bought a home in Greenville for $185,000. Monthly payments on that were maybe a little high for a Senate salary of $44,000, but well within normal. In 1996 he sold the house for $1.2 million and used the money to buy a smaller house in Greenville that was, at the time, easily affordable on a Senate salary of $133,000. Then, a few years ago, using money from speaking fees, he bought a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach for $2.7 million.

That's it. Biden currently owns two homes, one that was easily affordable on a Senate salary and a second that was paid for out of post-vice-presidential speaking fees. There's nothing there. At all.

But you guys keep up the good work CONNECTING THE DOTS! The Dems appreciate your service helping them retake the House in 2024.

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Hope you researched your info a little better on this than your BS cancer story. That was debunked in seconds.

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The fact that you need to "debunk" a grieving father's rationalization for why his relatively young Iraq War veteran son suddenly died of brain cancer is a pretty clear indication of what a bunch of demonic jackals you guys have become. Jesus.

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You appear to be indulging in a number of argumentative fallacies including appeal to motive, poisoning the well, and ergo decedo (traitorous critic fallacy). All of these are ad hominem variations but you also include appeal to ridicule and judgmental language which are sub-variants of appeal to emotion.

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Debate team?

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Nothing like that, I just find that applying Aristotle's rules helps to clarify through the miasma, or in layman's terms, cut through the crap. I'm not singling out Smapty, either, there are others here who use the False Authority fallacy (use of dubious or unproven sources) constantly, you can guess whom I mean.

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jkpackfan said:

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hokiewolf said:

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jkpackfan said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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BBW12OG said:

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So... wonder where Civ and the rest of his slap happy morons are on this.....

Joe Biden was in Washington DC on the Senate Floor on September 12th 2001 pic.twitter.com/NWV8QZud0B

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) September 12, 2023

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Pathetic

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What's pathetic is how desperate you guys are for a "gotcha".

If Biden had never actually been to ground zero you may have a point, but he was there the week after instead of the day after, and being off by a few days had no impact on what he was saying at all. Even Dubya had to wait a few days before he was allowed to flex on the pile.

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The point is the guy lies every time he moves his lips and you guys have no problem with it. There's no "gotcha" here, he lied yet again.

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Trump - The point is the guy lies every time he moves his lips and you guys have no problem with it. There's no "gotcha" here, he lied yet again. See how easy it is? Neither of them are fit for office.

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Mr Independent, not sure if you can read but this is a thread about the Biden administration, not Trump. I know that's all you and your party can talk about but there are threads specifically about Trump. It's always but Trump with you guys and you don't say **** about the embarrassment that Biden is.

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And the board liar once again refuses to acknowledge anything about his guy.

One of the lowest character individuals I have encountered on NCSU boards or any board for that matter since the old ACC.COM boards.

Hokie... you should be proud. You are and have been a low character poster. I can only imagine how your spoiled entitled life has led you down this road.

But, hey, at the end of the day... you are who you are. Be proud. People like you and your ilk elected Trump in 2016 and guess what? You and your smug, condescending self will help re-elect him next year.

Keep lying and pretending to be someone you aren't. Pretty sure the people who are around you personally already have you figured out within 15 minutes. The stench of BS fake oozes from you.

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Bro, you dont know me, you've never met me, and no one cares what you think. If you did know me, you would see how silly your assumptions about me truly are. Just because I no longer support Trump, nor do I think he's no longer electable, Doesn't warrant a continued assassination of my character, which is interesting because you accuse multiple posters of doing that same thing to you.

Have a great day BBW12OG.

Oldsouljer said:

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Civilized said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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packgrad said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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These statements further confirm that they don't have any evidence of illegality by Joe.

These shells weren't empty companies with no business purpose. They were foreign investments and consulting arrangements, mostly Hunter's, with clearly defined business purposes and activities.

There is currently zero evidence that consequential money flowed to Joe in a way that demonstrates corruption or influence-peddling.

Hunter's a hot mess and the optics aren't awesome. And there are many reasons why Joe shouldn't be president again.

Maybe this changes over time but as it stands right now the Pubs are slinging political mud not turning up actual evidence of corruption.

---

How can you make this post after the response, of my post above? The money, for the lifestyle Joe lives, came from somewhere…. Whether it's with Hunters dealings, or not, the guy has been paid.

Now, take packgrad's examples, just above, and the stench is just awful!

Oh, please parroting the left-wing talking points…. You know… zero evidence..

It's so apparent, zero evidence, was passed around, and used by these people. Narrative control!!

---

In 1974, Biden bought a home in Greenville for $185,000. Monthly payments on that were maybe a little high for a Senate salary of $44,000, but well within normal. In 1996 he sold the house for $1.2 million and used the money to buy a smaller house in Greenville that was, at the time, easily affordable on a Senate salary of $133,000. Then, a few years ago, using money from speaking fees, he bought a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach for $2.7 million.

That's it. Biden currently owns two homes, one that was easily affordable on a Senate salary and a second that was paid for out of post-vice-presidential speaking fees. There's nothing there. At all.

But you guys keep up the good work CONNECTING THE DOTS! The Dems appreciate your service helping them retake the House in 2024.

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Hope you researched your info a little better on this than your BS cancer story. That was debunked in seconds.

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The fact that you need to "debunk" a grieving father's rationalization for why his relatively young Iraq War veteran son suddenly died of brain cancer is a pretty clear indication of what a bunch of demonic jackals you guys have become. Jesus.

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You appear to be indulging in a number of argumentative fallacies including appeal to motive, poisoning the well, and ergo decedo (traitorous critic fallacy). All of these are ad hominem variations but you also include appeal to ridicule and judgmental language which are sub-variants of appeal to emotion.

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Debate team?

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Nothing like that, I just find that applying Aristotle's rules helps to clarify through the miasma, or in layman's terms, cut through the crap. I'm not singling out Smapty, either, there are others here who use the False Authority fallacy (use of dubious or unproven sources) constantly, you can guess whom I mean.

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I like where your head's at. Will need to read up more on Aristotle's rules!

Thanks for the links. I haven't been able to read through both of the articles. I did skim through Kessler's. I am aware of Glenn Kessler, whose article most of your quotes come from. He is well regarded for his left wing fact checking.

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/four-pinocchios-for-glenn-kessler/

hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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jkpackfan said:

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hokiewolf said:

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jkpackfan said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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BBW12OG said:

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So... wonder where Civ and the rest of his slap happy morons are on this.....

Joe Biden was in Washington DC on the Senate Floor on September 12th 2001 pic.twitter.com/NWV8QZud0B

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) September 12, 2023

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Pathetic

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What's pathetic is how desperate you guys are for a "gotcha".

If Biden had never actually been to ground zero you may have a point, but he was there the week after instead of the day after, and being off by a few days had no impact on what he was saying at all. Even Dubya had to wait a few days before he was allowed to flex on the pile.

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The point is the guy lies every time he moves his lips and you guys have no problem with it. There's no "gotcha" here, he lied yet again.

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Trump - The point is the guy lies every time he moves his lips and you guys have no problem with it. There's no "gotcha" here, he lied yet again. See how easy it is? Neither of them are fit for office.

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Mr Independent, not sure if you can read but this is a thread about the Biden administration, not Trump. I know that's all you and your party can talk about but there are threads specifically about Trump. It's always but Trump with you guys and you don't say **** about the embarrassment that Biden is.

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And the board liar once again refuses to acknowledge anything about his guy.

One of the lowest character individuals I have encountered on NCSU boards or any board for that matter since the old ACC.COM boards.

Hokie... you should be proud. You are and have been a low character poster. I can only imagine how your spoiled entitled life has led you down this road.

But, hey, at the end of the day... you are who you are. Be proud. People like you and your ilk elected Trump in 2016 and guess what? You and your smug, condescending self will help re-elect him next year.

Keep lying and pretending to be someone you aren't. Pretty sure the people who are around you personally already have you figured out within 15 minutes. The stench of BS fake oozes from you.

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Bro, you dont know me, you've never met me, and no one cares what you think. If you did know me, you would see how silly your assumptions about me truly are. Just because I no longer support Trump, nor do I think he's no longer electable, Doesn't warrant a continued assassination of my character, which is interesting because you accuse multiple posters of doing that same thing to you.

Have a great day BBW12OG.

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Bro??? What are you 10???

No.. I personally don't know you nor do I care to. You are a liar and have been caught in numerous lies on a freaking message board.

Not one assumption needs to be made about that. That's a fact. You did your own "character assassination" with your lying, getting caught lying and the doubling down.

Doing crap like that on a random message board tells exactly who you are and what your character is. Not to mention your air of self entitlement with your posts and your BS claims.

I have NEVER once complained about what ANY poster has said about me and if I have prove it. I don't give two F's about what you or your little cuck squad think about me. Never have and never will.

Now go find the posts where I was complaining about posters talking crap about me. You won't. That's just another one of many lies you have told on this site.

Like I said... you are who you are. A liar.

caryking said:

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Anything else?

Three minutes of research:

He purchased a house in 1972 for $185,000 and sold it in 1996 for $1.2 million. He rolled those proceeds into a raw land purchase and built another home estimated to cost $1.5 million total (land and build cost) that's worth closer to $3 mil today (but should be paid for unless he's leveraged to the hilt given the equity he had in his original house purchase).

Bought his beach house in 2017 for $2.7 mil.

All that seems perfectly contextual.

Forbes article from 2019:

The Bidens Made Twice as much in 2017 Than Previous 19 Years Combined

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Joe Biden's first year in the private sector proved to be his most lucrative in at least two decades. He and his wife, Jill, earned about $11.1 million in 2017, nearly double their total earnings from 1998 to 2016, which added up to $5.8 million, according to a Forbes analysis of tax returns. The couple brought in another $4.6 million last year.

The bulk of the Bidens' big payday came from a book deal and speaking engagements. Joe Biden routed his book and speaking payments through a company named CelticCapri Corp., which took in $9.5 million in 2017 and $2.7 million in 2018. His memoir, Promise Me, Dad, came out in November 2017 and has sold over 300,000 copies. On his financial disclosure report, Biden listed 30 book tour events, which paid him a total of $1.8 million, plus another 19 speaking engagements that provided $2.4 million.

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Yeah... but he got paid for writing a book and his wife IS a doctor you know....

These worthless Sleepy Joe cucks on here could care less.

Civ - thanks for posting the articles. Will read them when I have time later. Regarding Hunter, I do think the IRS whistleblowers are very credible. And if what they say is true, the investigation was stopped or significantly hindered regarding the taxes. The interview with Hunter was prevented in Dec before Joe took office. So regarding the taxes, I do believe it needs to be fully investigated. I don't have confidence the special counsel will perform a proper investigation considering the sweet heart deal he tried to get through court, But hopefully that is not the case. He did let the statute run out on earlier tax years.

BBW12OG said:

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Yeah... but he got paid for writing a book and his wife IS a doctor you know....

These worthless Sleepy Joe cucks on here could care less.

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Lol, the parallels aren't exact, but his wife reminds me of Elena Ceaucescu, got an undeserved PhD in chemistry because her hub was the dictator, had her papers ghost-written for her, and when she attended international conferences, she had a real chemist "translate" for her into English to those she was "lecturing".

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Anything else?

Three minutes of research:

He purchased a house in 1972 for $185,000 and sold it in 1996 for $1.2 million. He rolled those proceeds into a raw land purchase and built another home estimated to cost $1.5 million total (land and build cost) that's worth closer to $3 mil today (but should be paid for unless he's leveraged to the hilt given the equity he had in his original house purchase).

Bought his beach house in 2017 for $2.7 mil.

All that seems perfectly contextual.

Forbes article from 2019:

The Bidens Made Twice as much in 2017 Than Previous 19 Years Combined

Quote:

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Joe Biden's first year in the private sector proved to be his most lucrative in at least two decades. He and his wife, Jill, earned about $11.1 million in 2017, nearly double their total earnings from 1998 to 2016, which added up to $5.8 million, according to a Forbes analysis of tax returns. The couple brought in another $4.6 million last year.

The bulk of the Bidens' big payday came from a book deal and speaking engagements. Joe Biden routed his book and speaking payments through a company named CelticCapri Corp., which took in $9.5 million in 2017 and $2.7 million in 2018. His memoir, Promise Me, Dad, came out in November 2017 and has sold over 300,000 copies. On his financial disclosure report, Biden listed 30 book tour events, which paid him a total of $1.8 million, plus another 19 speaking engagements that provided $2.4 million.

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Lets be honest here... How many of you make 175K/year? Then, how many of you make whatever a VP makes/year? Lastly, how many of you have a 2.7M home?

packofwolves said:

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Civ - thanks for posting the articles. Will read them when I have time later. Regarding Hunter, I do think the IRS whistleblowers are very credible. And if what they say is true, the investigation was stopped or significantly hindered regarding the taxes. The interview with Hunter was prevented in Dec before Joe took office. So regarding the taxes, I do believe it needs to be fully investigated. I don't have confidence the special counsel will perform a proper investigation considering the sweet heart deal he tried to get through court, But hopefully that is not the case. He did let the statute run out on earlier tax years.

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I agree, the IRS whistleblowers seemed credible to me too.

I think it's unfortunate but fairly predictable that the President's son would have a tax case handled differently than me or you if we were to get audited and later investigated. I wasn't upset to see a judge later step in and throw out the sweetheart plea deal. We don't need to exacerbate the optics or the actual chasm in criminal justice outcomes in this country between the privileged and the less fortunate.

The bigger and more important question for our country though is whether there are any credible leads that seem to implicate Joe in criminality and on that topic my suspicion is that if there were inklings of it so far they would have surfaced at some point and Pubs would be screaming about them from the rooftops.

That being said, running it to ground exhaustively is best for the country.

caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Anything else?

Three minutes of research:

He purchased a house in 1972 for $185,000 and sold it in 1996 for $1.2 million. He rolled those proceeds into a raw land purchase and built another home estimated to cost $1.5 million total (land and build cost) that's worth closer to $3 mil today (but should be paid for unless he's leveraged to the hilt given the equity he had in his original house purchase).

Bought his beach house in 2017 for $2.7 mil.

All that seems perfectly contextual.

Forbes article from 2019:

The Bidens Made Twice as much in 2017 Than Previous 19 Years Combined

Quote:

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Joe Biden's first year in the private sector proved to be his most lucrative in at least two decades. He and his wife, Jill, earned about $11.1 million in 2017, nearly double their total earnings from 1998 to 2016, which added up to $5.8 million, according to a Forbes analysis of tax returns. The couple brought in another $4.6 million last year.

The bulk of the Bidens' big payday came from a book deal and speaking engagements. Joe Biden routed his book and speaking payments through a company named CelticCapri Corp., which took in $9.5 million in 2017 and $2.7 million in 2018. His memoir, Promise Me, Dad, came out in November 2017 and has sold over 300,000 copies. On his financial disclosure report, Biden listed 30 book tour events, which paid him a total of $1.8 million, plus another 19 speaking engagements that provided $2.4 million.

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Lets be honest here... How many of you make 175K/year? Then, how many of you make whatever a VP makes/year? Lastly, how many of you have a 2.7M home?

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He bought the $2.7MM home the same year he made $9.5MM.

What exactly is the problem?

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Anything else?

Three minutes of research:

He purchased a house in 1972 for $185,000 and sold it in 1996 for $1.2 million. He rolled those proceeds into a raw land purchase and built another home estimated to cost $1.5 million total (land and build cost) that's worth closer to $3 mil today (but should be paid for unless he's leveraged to the hilt given the equity he had in his original house purchase).

Bought his beach house in 2017 for $2.7 mil.

All that seems perfectly contextual.

Forbes article from 2019:

The Bidens Made Twice as much in 2017 Than Previous 19 Years Combined

Quote:

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Joe Biden's first year in the private sector proved to be his most lucrative in at least two decades. He and his wife, Jill, earned about $11.1 million in 2017, nearly double their total earnings from 1998 to 2016, which added up to $5.8 million, according to a Forbes analysis of tax returns. The couple brought in another $4.6 million last year.

The bulk of the Bidens' big payday came from a book deal and speaking engagements. Joe Biden routed his book and speaking payments through a company named CelticCapri Corp., which took in $9.5 million in 2017 and $2.7 million in 2018. His memoir, Promise Me, Dad, came out in November 2017 and has sold over 300,000 copies. On his financial disclosure report, Biden listed 30 book tour events, which paid him a total of $1.8 million, plus another 19 speaking engagements that provided $2.4 million.

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Lets be honest here... How many of you make 175K/year? Then, how many of you make whatever a VP makes/year? Lastly, how many of you have a 2.7M home?

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He bought the $2.7MM home the same year he made $9.5MM.

What exactly is the problem?

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Maybe illegitimate daughters and their maintenance aren't cheap.

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Anything else?

Three minutes of research:

He purchased a house in 1972 for $185,000 and sold it in 1996 for $1.2 million. He rolled those proceeds into a raw land purchase and built another home estimated to cost $1.5 million total (land and build cost) that's worth closer to $3 mil today (but should be paid for unless he's leveraged to the hilt given the equity he had in his original house purchase).

Bought his beach house in 2017 for $2.7 mil.

All that seems perfectly contextual.

Forbes article from 2019:

The Bidens Made Twice as much in 2017 Than Previous 19 Years Combined

Quote:

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Joe Biden's first year in the private sector proved to be his most lucrative in at least two decades. He and his wife, Jill, earned about $11.1 million in 2017, nearly double their total earnings from 1998 to 2016, which added up to $5.8 million, according to a Forbes analysis of tax returns. The couple brought in another $4.6 million last year.

The bulk of the Bidens' big payday came from a book deal and speaking engagements. Joe Biden routed his book and speaking payments through a company named CelticCapri Corp., which took in $9.5 million in 2017 and $2.7 million in 2018. His memoir, Promise Me, Dad, came out in November 2017 and has sold over 300,000 copies. On his financial disclosure report, Biden listed 30 book tour events, which paid him a total of $1.8 million, plus another 19 speaking engagements that provided $2.4 million.

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Lets be honest here... How many of you make 175K/year? Then, how many of you make whatever a VP makes/year? Lastly, how many of you have a 2.7M home?

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He bought the $2.7MM home the same year he made $9.5MM.

What exactly is the problem?

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That is the problem!!! It is for him and everybody else that leaves politics and makes that kind of money. For most liberals, the rich getting richer bothers the hell out of them, but its ok, when their own do it...

Meanwhile, Trump builds a business, in NYC, and probably uses the system to his advantage (as he says). Then, once he becomes the president, all hell breaks loose and he should pay his fair share, he's a con man, etc...

For me, Trump made his living, prior to politics. Biden made his living, because of politics!