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Protesting and domestic terrorism is perfectly fine if the democrats agree with the reason behind it. "It's the voice of the voiceless!"

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Exactly...

The MARXISTS on this site would have their panties in knots if Conservatives protested, marched and burnt down abortion clinics like what has happened in the last few weeks by their comrades.

Not to mention imagine President Trump instituting a Ministry of Disinformation to monitor what is put on or taken off of social media....

What have we heard from the MARXISTS???? Crickets.

Like I have said numerous times... if the left didn't have hypocrisy they wouldn't have a damn thing. Glad their followers are quick to expose themselves... they just can't help to want to make sure that everyone knows they are without a doubt the smartest people in the room at all times, have done more to "help" those less fortunate and are on par with vegans, cross-fit members and unc grads as being the most obnoxious individuals in the room at any given time.

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hokiewolf said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

Inflation is a TAX on all Americans.

Gasoline is UP 43.6%
Used Cars are UP 22.7%
Meats/Fish/Eggs are UP 14.3%
New Cars are UP 13.2%
Electricity is UP 11.0%
Food at home is UP 10.8%
Transportation is UP 8.5%
Food away from home is UP 7.2%

Bidenomics

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-cancels-oil-gas-lease-sale-record-high-prices

Hey, Civ! What was that, Jen Psaki was trying to tell us a month or two ago?

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-cancels-oil-gas-lease-sale-record-high-prices

Hey, Civ! What was that, Jen Psaki was trying to tell us a month or two ago?

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That this is all because of Putin's war on Ukraine that he and Trump planned while Trump was in office.

Oh, and because of...well just Trump!

Please vote Democrat in November!

**This message brought to you by the Democrat National Party and the CCP.

^This summer is going to be interesting to say the least. It won't be just one tornado touching down.......its gonna be a bunch of em'. massive ILLEGAL caravans, energy prices out the roof, supply chain failure, food shortage, prescription drug shortages, another so-called COVID wave and attempted lockdown by the WHO/our Feds and a near-disaster nuclear exchange with NATO pushing for war with Russia or the CCP going after Taiwan when that opportunity presents to provide a 2-front war. We'll see how far I'm off with this....as Election Fraud is exposed, two Communist Senators in Ga are removed and the entire 2020 election is brought to the forefront. FOXNews nad Newsmax won't be able to hide it forever......find OANN or RAV for some semblance of truth.

RINOs are more of a danger than the SOCIALISTs........as they serve as controlled opposition. FoxNews and Newsmax serve as the 'crumb droppers'. If we don't rid ourselves of these RINOs in the DC and our State govt we'll never rid ourselves of this crooked and corrupt system that's evolved over the past decades.

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D
Omar - D
Bush - D
Presley - D
Tlaib - D
Bowman - D
Greene - R
Gaetz -R
Gosar - R
Cawthorn - R

I answered it! Yay

hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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thanks for making my point. This is the crux of the difference between us

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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thanks for making my point. This is the crux of the difference between us

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The difference is you support those with Anti-American values, opinions and deny that you do. You just admitted as much.

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hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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thanks for making my point. This is the crux of the difference between us

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The difference is you support those with Anti-American values, opinions and deny that you do. You just admitted as much.

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lol ok

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hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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thanks for making my point. This is the crux of the difference between us

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Hokie, its ok that we may disagree... who do you think is Anti-American on my list? MTG, Gaetz, or Gosar?

^ Hard to tell who is corrupt or simply fearful of taking a stand. Maybe a few take a stand when the populace finally wakes up. This summer's events will be a wake up call for most that continue to sleep. That pot of GOLD we send to DC every year is enticement for legislators with the need to sell to the electorate back home "look I brought home some bacon". PORK that is.

MTG was overly cautious a couple of weeks ago when heavily scrutinized by one of my FAVs, Lou Dobbs. She would not say that she supported removal of Kevin McCartny. Lou was all over her arse.......and rightly so. I think Matt Gaetz could "get there" but I'm not sure how many others could. Maybe Louie G.

Julian Assange may be a player in the truth as it unfolds.

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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Actually....lets go a little bit further on this if you both don't mind. Hokie and Cary - You've both put up your notes above....why?

Lets take Gaetz for instance. Hokie - What makes you think that he is anti-american and why do you think he is pro-american Cary?

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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thanks for making my point. This is the crux of the difference between us

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Hokie, its ok that we may disagree... who do you think is Anti-American on my list? MTG, Gaetz, or Gosar?

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show me anyone on that list who has proposed any legitimate legislation. Also notice I didn't include Jordan or Boebert who actually try to do the job they were elected to do rather than just try and grift from their base. I'm not a fan of them at times but at least they know what the job is.

cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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Actually....lets go a little bit further on this if you both don't mind. Hokie and Cary - You've both put up your notes above....why?

Lets take Gaetz for instance. Hokie - What makes you think that he is anti-american and why do you think he is pro-american Cary?

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if you think grifting your base for campaign money is your job as an elected official then you are anti-American. Look at the actions, not the rhetoric. Too many look at the rhetoric and think that's just good enough.

Where do you get your grifting insights?

PackFansXL said:

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Where do you get your grifting insights?

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I have family from Philly

hokiewolf said:

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PackFansXL said:

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Where do you get your grifting insights?

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I have family from Philly

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I am just curious about this perception. I know nothing about the individual in question. What do they deem to be grifting by a politician?

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PackFansXL said:

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Where do you get your grifting insights?

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I have family from Philly

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Ok...that's actually funny as hell

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cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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Actually....lets go a little bit further on this if you both don't mind. Hokie and Cary - You've both put up your notes above....why?

Lets take Gaetz for instance. Hokie - What makes you think that he is anti-american and why do you think he is pro-american Cary?

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if you think grifting your base for campaign money is your job as an elected official then you are anti-American. Look at the actions, not the rhetoric. Too many look at the rhetoric and think that's just good enough.

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That's actually a really fair point.

Aside from grifting to his base, which is what all politicians do, how do you feel about the bills that he has sponsored in regards to doing his duty as a congressman?

cowboypack02 said:

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hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

---

A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

---

If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

---

two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

---

LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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Actually....lets go a little bit further on this if you both don't mind. Hokie and Cary - You've both put up your notes above....why?

Lets take Gaetz for instance. Hokie - What makes you think that he is anti-american and why do you think he is pro-american Cary?

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if you think grifting your base for campaign money is your job as an elected official then you are anti-American. Look at the actions, not the rhetoric. Too many look at the rhetoric and think that's just good enough.

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That's actually a really fair point.

Aside from grifting to his base, which is what all politicians do, how do you feel about the bills that he has sponsored in regards to doing his duty as a congressman?

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there's nothing in his record aside from one bill that he has brought forth that would actually benefit his district. Everything else is just for show

hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

---

A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

---

If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

---

two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

---

LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

---

Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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Actually....lets go a little bit further on this if you both don't mind. Hokie and Cary - You've both put up your notes above....why?

Lets take Gaetz for instance. Hokie - What makes you think that he is anti-american and why do you think he is pro-american Cary?

---

if you think grifting your base for campaign money is your job as an elected official then you are anti-American. Look at the actions, not the rhetoric. Too many look at the rhetoric and think that's just good enough.

---

That's actually a really fair point.

Aside from grifting to his base, which is what all politicians do, how do you feel about the bills that he has sponsored in regards to doing his duty as a congressman?

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there's nothing in his record aside from one bill that he has brought forth that would actually benefit his district. Everything else is just for show

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Not that I don't disagree with you but isn't that what all politicians do?

Have y'all seen this recent video of an unhinged Brandon ranting and screaming, blaming the "MAGA crowd" for food shortages?

https://rumble.com/v14dp74-biden-yells-at-food-shortages...-which-are-currently-happening-under-his-ad.html

The true character of this communist piece of trash is really starting to show, as he goes completely senile. He's a rage-aholic mean SOB.

cowboypack02 said:

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hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

---

A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

---

If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

---

two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

---

LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

---

Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

---

Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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Actually....lets go a little bit further on this if you both don't mind. Hokie and Cary - You've both put up your notes above....why?

Lets take Gaetz for instance. Hokie - What makes you think that he is anti-american and why do you think he is pro-american Cary?

---

if you think grifting your base for campaign money is your job as an elected official then you are anti-American. Look at the actions, not the rhetoric. Too many look at the rhetoric and think that's just good enough.

---

That's actually a really fair point.

Aside from grifting to his base, which is what all politicians do, how do you feel about the bills that he has sponsored in regards to doing his duty as a congressman?

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there's nothing in his record aside from one bill that he has brought forth that would actually benefit his district. Everything else is just for show

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Not that I don't disagree with you but isn't that what all politicians do?

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that's kind of my point, the districts have been so distorted that all you're getting now is extreme right and left, and you're not getting real worked on legislation that is sound

hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

---

A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

---

If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

---

two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

---

LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

---

Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

---

Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

---

Actually....lets go a little bit further on this if you both don't mind. Hokie and Cary - You've both put up your notes above....why?

Lets take Gaetz for instance. Hokie - What makes you think that he is anti-american and why do you think he is pro-american Cary?

---

if you think grifting your base for campaign money is your job as an elected official then you are anti-American. Look at the actions, not the rhetoric. Too many look at the rhetoric and think that's just good enough.

---

That's actually a really fair point.

Aside from grifting to his base, which is what all politicians do, how do you feel about the bills that he has sponsored in regards to doing his duty as a congressman?

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there's nothing in his record aside from one bill that he has brought forth that would actually benefit his district. Everything else is just for show

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No Representative should do anything that benefits their district; rather, they should protect their district. Right there is the problem. Everyone wants something for their district! That's why we get a ballooning Federal Government. The so-called spending power makes them all drunk! Actually, not for the people that's paying attention to constitution.

hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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hokiewolf said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

---

A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

---

two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

---

LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

---

that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

---

I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

Quote:

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

---

Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

---

Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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Actually....lets go a little bit further on this if you both don't mind. Hokie and Cary - You've both put up your notes above....why?

Lets take Gaetz for instance. Hokie - What makes you think that he is anti-american and why do you think he is pro-american Cary?

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if you think grifting your base for campaign money is your job as an elected official then you are anti-American. Look at the actions, not the rhetoric. Too many look at the rhetoric and think that's just good enough.

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That's actually a really fair point.

Aside from grifting to his base, which is what all politicians do, how do you feel about the bills that he has sponsored in regards to doing his duty as a congressman?

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there's nothing in his record aside from one bill that he has brought forth that would actually benefit his district. Everything else is just for show

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Not that I don't disagree with you but isn't that what all politicians do?

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that's kind of my point, the districts have been so distorted that all you're getting now is extreme right and left, and you're not getting real worked on legislation that is sound

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Just not a sound argument! The constitution provides for certain powers at the Federal Government; so, what should be acceptable for a House member, regardless of how extreme they are?

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Is any democrat safe in 2022? Outside of Manhattan and San Francisco I mean. When will people learn anyway? My entire life democrats in power has led to a complete ****show. Clinton being the exception through some of his time... with a GOP controlled congress mind you.

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A lot of democrats are safe in 2022 because of gerry mandering of congressional districts from both parties in the last few years.

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If one party undoes another party's districts, is that considered Gerry mandering?

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two wrongs don't make a right. And it's the number one reason why we are where we are with Congress and we get nutcases like AOC, Omar, Bush, Presley, Tlaib, Bowman, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, Cawthorn, etc.

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LOL... you named some very interesting individuals....

Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from.

I'll hang up and listen.

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that's not the point and you know it BBW. You are not responding to the point I'm trying to convey but rather just changing the subject because you don't care about why the quality of congressional candidates continues to deteriorate from both parties. You only care about owning the libs rather than congress doing their job and producing quality legislation.

But to answer your question, if you are elected to do a job and you choose instead to focus on self promotion of your name to fill your coffers over representing the interests of your district then I consider all of them anti American.

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NO..it absolutely is the point. You once again try and make a point by associating the Anti-American left with a few extreme right congressmen from the GOP. Once you are called out for your shortcomings you deflect and refuse to answer the question.

Typical.

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I did answer your question

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LOL...NO you didn't.

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"Now list the names from those you posted who are Anti-American..... and list what party they are from."

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Once again when you are put on the spot you fail miserably.

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Ok

AOC - D - Anti-American
Omar - D - Anti-American
Bush - D - Don't know
Presley - D - Don't know
Tlaib - D - Anti-American
Bowman - D - Don't know
Greene - R - Pro-American
Gaetz -R - Pro-American
Gosar - R - Pro-American
Cawthorn - R - TBD

I answered it! Yay

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So did I...

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Actually....lets go a little bit further on this if you both don't mind. Hokie and Cary - You've both put up your notes above....why?

Lets take Gaetz for instance. Hokie - What makes you think that he is anti-american and why do you think he is pro-american Cary?

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if you think grifting your base for campaign money is your job as an elected official then you are anti-American. Look at the actions, not the rhetoric. Too many look at the rhetoric and think that's just good enough.

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That's actually a really fair point.

Aside from grifting to his base, which is what all politicians do, how do you feel about the bills that he has sponsored in regards to doing his duty as a congressman?

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there's nothing in his record aside from one bill that he has brought forth that would actually benefit his district. Everything else is just for show

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Not that I don't disagree with you but isn't that what all politicians do?

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that's kind of my point, the districts have been so distorted that all you're getting now is extreme right and left, and you're not getting real worked on legislation that is sound

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Just not a sound argument! The constitution provides for certain powers at the Federal Government; so, what should be acceptable for a House member, regardless of how extreme they are?

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let's take abortion for an example. I'm not for it except in certain rare conditions. A sound legislator would work on legislation that doesn't appease just their base, they would work to get to the halfway point. This all or nothing stuff, all it does is continue the issue for the purposes of fund raising. Do your job and solve the damn issue that 75% of America would most likely live with