Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Just don't let them relocate to NC/SC, thats all i ask. Too many of those NY low-lives already down here, dont need any more. That also goes for Ohioans, Michiganders, Philadelphians, and Bostonians.pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
"Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions."Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
All lies matterjkpackfan said:"Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions."Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
Only Trumps "lies" bother you? Have you not listened to Obama and the moron we have in office now? Good lord
ok, very delusional post you made...Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
Hey Civ,Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
hokiewolf said:All lies matterjkpackfan said:"Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions."Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
Only Trumps "lies" bother you? Have you not listened to Obama and the moron we have in office now? Good lord
Comrade Civ and his SOCIALIST ilk could not imagine anyone from the MSM or the aforementioned names ever espousing any untruths whatsoever. The way they slurp any and all information from the media overlords you know good and well there is no "balance" in their minds.PackFansXL said:Hey Civ,Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
Ever heard of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barry Obama, Cuomo brothers, "news" anchors for any major network or cable channel, UNC-CH coaches and administration, etc.? Most if not all those individuals have continued to escape punishments or even much scrutiny while enjoying press adoration.
I agree that lies matter, but when there is an army of ink spewing minions twisting and turning every word into some imagined malfeasance, you are going to leave behind a bad impression, regardless of the truth. Let's at least attempt some balanced perspective here.
Stop making stuff up.BBW12OG said:Comrade Civ and his SOCIALIST ilk could not imagine anyone from the MSM or the aforementioned names ever espousing any untruths whatsoever. The way they slurp any and all information from the media overlords you know good and well there is no "balance" in their minds.PackFansXL said:Hey Civ,Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
Ever heard of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barry Obama, Cuomo brothers, "news" anchors for any major network or cable channel, UNC-CH coaches and administration, etc.? Most if not all those individuals have continued to escape punishments or even much scrutiny while enjoying press adoration.
I agree that lies matter, but when there is an army of ink spewing minions twisting and turning every word into some imagined malfeasance, you are going to leave behind a bad impression, regardless of the truth. Let's at least attempt some balanced perspective here.
Just read some of the garbage they post on here. It is straight from CNN, MSNBC, etc...... if you watch or listen to either of those the posts made by the SOCIALIST PARTY members here are laughable. When a few of them have an original thought or opinion it will be their first!
PackFansXL said:Hey Civ,Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
Ever heard of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barry Obama, Cuomo brothers, "news" anchors for any major network or cable channel, UNC-CH coaches and administration, etc.? Most if not all those individuals have continued to escape punishments or even much scrutiny while enjoying press adoration.
I agree that lies matter, but when there is an army of ink spewing minions twisting and turning every word into some imagined malfeasance, you are going to leave behind a bad impression, regardless of the truth. Let's at least attempt some balanced perspective here.
PackFansXL said:
The MSM was biased 20 years ago. Now they have blatantly tossed any semblance of honesty and fairness and have gone into full narrative mode 98% of the time. For example, they allow their side to back edit their own published statements if it suits the narrative. I don't know which lie is supposed to be the "big lie" but I don't care anymore either. If the position is promoted by this new far left world view, it is likely absurd and based on untruths.
Civilized said:PackFansXL said:
The MSM was biased 20 years ago. Now they have blatantly tossed any semblance of honesty and fairness and have gone into full narrative mode 98% of the time. For example, they allow their side to back edit their own published statements if it suits the narrative. I don't know which lie is supposed to be the "big lie" but I don't care anymore either. If the position is promoted by this new far left world view, it is likely absurd and based on untruths.
Was the 2020 election STOLEN from Trump via MASSIVE FRAUD?
Agree... How about Stacy Abrams Civ? Her and your media overlords STILL claim she's Governor of Georgia. You and your ilk are a sad lot.packgrad said:Civilized said:PackFansXL said:
The MSM was biased 20 years ago. Now they have blatantly tossed any semblance of honesty and fairness and have gone into full narrative mode 98% of the time. For example, they allow their side to back edit their own published statements if it suits the narrative. I don't know which lie is supposed to be the "big lie" but I don't care anymore either. If the position is promoted by this new far left world view, it is likely absurd and based on untruths.
Was the 2020 election STOLEN from Trump via MASSIVE FRAUD?
Hillary said the same thing, and is still saying the same thing, yet your panties are not in a wad about that. Just accept it's not him. It's you and your illness.
packgrad said:Civilized said:PackFansXL said:
The MSM was biased 20 years ago. Now they have blatantly tossed any semblance of honesty and fairness and have gone into full narrative mode 98% of the time. For example, they allow their side to back edit their own published statements if it suits the narrative. I don't know which lie is supposed to be the "big lie" but I don't care anymore either. If the position is promoted by this new far left world view, it is likely absurd and based on untruths.
Was the 2020 election STOLEN from Trump via MASSIVE FRAUD?
Hillary said the same thing, and is still saying the same thing, yet your panties are not in a wad about that. Just accept it's not him. It's you and your illness.
BBW12OG said:Agree... How about Stacy Abrams Civ? Her and your media overlords STILL claim she's Governor of Georgia. You and your ilk are a sad lot.packgrad said:Civilized said:PackFansXL said:
The MSM was biased 20 years ago. Now they have blatantly tossed any semblance of honesty and fairness and have gone into full narrative mode 98% of the time. For example, they allow their side to back edit their own published statements if it suits the narrative. I don't know which lie is supposed to be the "big lie" but I don't care anymore either. If the position is promoted by this new far left world view, it is likely absurd and based on untruths.
Was the 2020 election STOLEN from Trump via MASSIVE FRAUD?
Hillary said the same thing, and is still saying the same thing, yet your panties are not in a wad about that. Just accept it's not him. It's you and your illness.
At least you and ISISwolf22 are not longer in denial about being SOCIALISTS... glad you finally accepted what you and your party are.
packgrad said:
She only did it 1% as much as Trump!!!! Lolololol. So much TDS. Seek help.
Russians appear to be re-running their 2016 hacking playbook, once again to benefit Donald Trump.
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 14, 2020
Will the media play along again?
Will the GOP open the door again?
Will the Russians help pick our POTUS again? https://t.co/cfVPcqbY5w
packgrad said:
Did she tweet about it? Lol. Seriously? I'll let you go through her tweets and count them, then count Trump's but here is what a simply google search will show you in regards to your Twitter requirement.Russians appear to be re-running their 2016 hacking playbook, once again to benefit Donald Trump.
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 14, 2020
Will the media play along again?
Will the GOP open the door again?
Will the Russians help pick our POTUS again? https://t.co/cfVPcqbY5w
Civilized said:packgrad said:
Did she tweet about it? Lol. Seriously? I'll let you go through her tweets and count them, then count Trump's but here is what a simply google search will show you in regards to your Twitter requirement.Russians appear to be re-running their 2016 hacking playbook, once again to benefit Donald Trump.
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 14, 2020
Will the media play along again?
Will the GOP open the door again?
Will the Russians help pick our POTUS again? https://t.co/cfVPcqbY5w
One tweet that's factual?
That's what you've got?
Or are you under the mistaken impression that Russia didn't hack the DNC, Hillary's campaign, election boards and other organizations and run fake social media campaigns with the intent of helping Trump win?
Or that they weren't in direct contact with Trump's campaign, handing over information they thought would disparage Clinton and help Trump?
You're aware a bunch of Russians got indicted by the Justice Department for committing these crimes, right?
LOL. I was honestly thinking the same thing (except bourbon)...BBW12OG said:
Just let him rant and rave. He must be in the Smirnoff Ices tonight or White Claws... whichever one is the most "woke" that his lefty brigade endorses.
Here's the thing about Abrams' claims comrade Civ. The voters that you and your SOCIALIST ilk claim that are purged are dead, no longer living in the state/county/town or have not voted in 5 years.
How the hell is that "voter suppression?"
And EVERY DAMN TIME she's on TV she mentions how the election was "stolen" from her and she's on at least 4-5 times a freaking week.
Like I've told you before... do YOUR damn homework. You come on here and spout off SOCIALIST talking points and offer zero proof other than what your puppet masters at the MSM tell you.
Again.. the first time you have an original thought it will be the first time.
Yes, rather than try to earnestly debate bald-faced dishonesty which is fruitless, better to just let this nonsense dry up without excessive rebuttal. It's sad that this anti-American tripe keeps showing up on our boards and I wish it could just stay on its natural home over at IC.TheStorm said:LOL. I was honestly thinking the same thing (except bourbon)...BBW12OG said:
Just let him rant and rave. He must be in the Smirnoff Ices tonight or White Claws... whichever one is the most "woke" that his lefty brigade endorses.
Here's the thing about Abrams' claims comrade Civ. The voters that you and your SOCIALIST ilk claim that are purged are dead, no longer living in the state/county/town or have not voted in 5 years.
How the hell is that "voter suppression?"
And EVERY DAMN TIME she's on TV she mentions how the election was "stolen" from her and she's on at least 4-5 times a freaking week.
Like I've told you before... do YOUR damn homework. You come on here and spout off SOCIALIST talking points and offer zero proof other than what your puppet masters at the MSM tell you.
Again.. the first time you have an original thought it will be the first time.
Usually when he starts with "Stop making stuff up!"... that's right before he takes his ball and goes home.
Truer words have never been spoken. I am curious as to how many of the lefties on here are unc-cheat fans or worse yet, alums.....Oldsouljer said:Yes, rather than try to earnestly debate bald-faced dishonesty which is fruitless, better to just let this nonsense dry up without excessive rebuttal. It's sad that this anti-American tripe keeps showing up on our boards and I wish it could just stay on its natural home over at IC.TheStorm said:LOL. I was honestly thinking the same thing (except bourbon)...BBW12OG said:
Just let him rant and rave. He must be in the Smirnoff Ices tonight or White Claws... whichever one is the most "woke" that his lefty brigade endorses.
Here's the thing about Abrams' claims comrade Civ. The voters that you and your SOCIALIST ilk claim that are purged are dead, no longer living in the state/county/town or have not voted in 5 years.
How the hell is that "voter suppression?"
And EVERY DAMN TIME she's on TV she mentions how the election was "stolen" from her and she's on at least 4-5 times a freaking week.
Like I've told you before... do YOUR damn homework. You come on here and spout off SOCIALIST talking points and offer zero proof other than what your puppet masters at the MSM tell you.
Again.. the first time you have an original thought it will be the first time.
Usually when he starts with "Stop making stuff up!"... that's right before he takes his ball and goes home.
Post like this make me think yall haven't been on campus in quite some time.Oldsouljer said:
Yes, rather than try to earnestly debate bald-faced dishonesty which is fruitless, better to just let this nonsense dry up without excessive rebuttal. It's sad that this anti-American tripe keeps showing up on our boards and I wish it could just stay on its natural home over at IC.
Yes.. you are correct. The indoctrination that you and your ilk have been doing is paying off. Wait until these so-called "progressives" get out into the real world and get real jobs. That's when their eyes will open up and realize just how idiotic the left and their ideas are.IseWolf22 said:Post like this make me think yall haven't been on campus in quite some time.Oldsouljer said:
Yes, rather than try to earnestly debate bald-faced dishonesty which is fruitless, better to just let this nonsense dry up without excessive rebuttal. It's sad that this anti-American tripe keeps showing up on our boards and I wish it could just stay on its natural home over at IC.
There are quite a lot of NC state students much more liberal than Civ.
Notice how Civ only pulls out Republicans in his list...Civilized said:PackFansXL said:Hey Civ,Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
Ever heard of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barry Obama, Cuomo brothers, "news" anchors for any major network or cable channel, UNC-CH coaches and administration, etc.? Most if not all those individuals have continued to escape punishments or even much scrutiny while enjoying press adoration.
I agree that lies matter, but when there is an army of ink spewing minions twisting and turning every word into some imagined malfeasance, you are going to leave behind a bad impression, regardless of the truth. Let's at least attempt some balanced perspective here.
Definitely. Standard politicians, all. Truth benders/liars, all. Along with Ronald Reagan, HW, W, Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Jesse Helms, etc. Lying politicians isn't unique to one side of the aisle. You don't hear me talking about "normal" politicians on either side of the aisle nearly as much because they're all within a standard deviation from the norm.
No other politician, especially President, on either side of the aisle in history has ever assaulted and damaged American trust in free and fair elections the way that Trump's ridiculous repeated complete fabrications about election fraud did.
It's impossible to overstate how much his completely baseless and self-serving campaign eroded, and is still eroding, faith in our system.
pineknollshoresking said:Notice how Civ only pulls out Republicans in his list...Civilized said:PackFansXL said:Hey Civ,Civilized said:pineknollshoresking said:Civ, I'm glad this is so enlightening for you. I believe it is nothing short of a witch hunt!!! These people, in NY, need to be eradicated from society. They are low lives...Civilized said:
Add this to Trump's list of accomplishments to consider when deciding whether to hitch your cart to his horse in 2024...
Potential disbarment of his buddy Rudy.
a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."
Given how unhinged and unbelievable Guiliani and Powell sounded as they tried to enable Trump's election fraud fantasies, this ruling sounds about right.
Four years of Trump's crazy lies about everything under the sun must have fooled you into thinking that people in power can stand in front of cameras in positions of power and influence and lie over and over and over without repercussions.
"The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."
Very well said by the court.
This is no witch hunt. Actions have consequences.
The consequence of Trump's crazy conduct was an old and mediocre candidate beating him in the election.
Giuliani and Powell's consequences were billion-dollar lawsuits levied against them, and now evidently potentially disbarment. Their lies were extremely dangerous and damaging, and obviously ran afoul of the professional ethics they once swore to uphold.
There have to be consequences for that significant a breach of public trust.
Why in the world they thought their conduct would not come back to bite them will never be understandable. What, exactly, did they think they'd get out of their lies?
Ever heard of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barry Obama, Cuomo brothers, "news" anchors for any major network or cable channel, UNC-CH coaches and administration, etc.? Most if not all those individuals have continued to escape punishments or even much scrutiny while enjoying press adoration.
I agree that lies matter, but when there is an army of ink spewing minions twisting and turning every word into some imagined malfeasance, you are going to leave behind a bad impression, regardless of the truth. Let's at least attempt some balanced perspective here.
Definitely. Standard politicians, all. Truth benders/liars, all. Along with Ronald Reagan, HW, W, Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Jesse Helms, etc. Lying politicians isn't unique to one side of the aisle. You don't hear me talking about "normal" politicians on either side of the aisle nearly as much because they're all within a standard deviation from the norm.
No other politician, especially President, on either side of the aisle in history has ever assaulted and damaged American trust in free and fair elections the way that Trump's ridiculous repeated complete fabrications about election fraud did.
It's impossible to overstate how much his completely baseless and self-serving campaign eroded, and is still eroding, faith in our system.
