caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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The lady was convicted in court and there has been enough investigative journalism to make the allegations against Prince Andrew credible

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Buddy, if you think there's even a possibility 60 and 70 year old Republican congressmen and Senators are having cocaine filled orgies I don't know what else to say.

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problem is Cawthorn said the full part

hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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The lady was convicted in court and there has been enough investigative journalism to make the allegations against Prince Andrew credible

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Buddy, if you think there's even a possibility 60 and 70 year old Republican congressmen and Senators are having cocaine filled orgies I don't know what else to say.

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problem is Cawthorn said the full part

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Actually, the problem is that Cawthorn said it out loud.

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I'll never look into your eyes again
Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need of some stranger's hand
In a desperate land
This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
It hurts to set you free
But you'll never follow me
The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to die
This is the end
This is the end

I'm with you brother. When I see those four horseman riding right down the street I'm going to run up to them and just drag Pestilence right off his ****ing horse. I'm ready Bro! Let's burn this outhouse to the ground!

Reality man...........it's not what anyone wants. The longer we deny the longer this crap goes on. We can stop it.

Follow the snake

caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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The lady was convicted in court and there has been enough investigative journalism to make the allegations against Prince Andrew credible

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Buddy, if you think there's even a possibility 60 and 70 year old Republican congressmen and Senators are having cocaine filled orgies I don't know what else to say.

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Actually the highest rate of STDs in any segment of the population is the elderly in independent care facilities. Those old folks get down and there can be constant outbreaks of venereal disease because the old folks don't practice safe sex.

True Story...swear to God. My wife used to manage a department at a independent living facility when we lived in Raleigh and you'd be amazed at the stuff that is going on between folks there. It wasn't just where she worked either. We'd go to dinner with managers from other facilities and that was a normal thing

cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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The lady was convicted in court and there has been enough investigative journalism to make the allegations against Prince Andrew credible

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Buddy, if you think there's even a possibility 60 and 70 year old Republican congressmen and Senators are having cocaine filled orgies I don't know what else to say.

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Actually the highest rate of STDs in any segment of the population is the elderly in independent care facilities. Those old folks get down and there can be constant outbreaks of venereal disease because the old folks don't practice safe sex.

True Story...swear to God. My wife used to manage a department at a independent living facility when we lived in Raleigh and you'd be amazed at the stuff that is going on between folks there. It wasn't just where she worked either. We'd go to dinner with managers from other facilities and that was a normal thing

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That still want help Hokie admit Cawthorn's allegations have the possibility of a slither of truth.

What goes on with the capture of our federal govt bureaucrats can be captured with what not the Cabal/NWO practices but also what the CCP practices. Here's an article with a very good overview.

https://richardsonpost.com/peter-schweizer/25896/elite-capture/?msclkid=dbc35682b27c11ec9c0e8f139a33b6dd

Again; our federal govt is captured. That's why we can look around and see poor decisions and incompetence. Its not "poor decisions and incompetence", its now openly in your face fleecing of America and stripping Americans of our civil rights. It will become much worse before it gets better.

Werewolf said:

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What goes on with the capture of our federal govt bureaucrats can be captured with what not the Cabal/NWO practices but also what the CCP practices. Here's an article with a very good overview.

https://richardsonpost.com/peter-schweizer/25896/elite-capture/?msclkid=dbc35682b27c11ec9c0e8f139a33b6dd

Again; our federal govt is captured. That's why we can look around and see poor decisions and incompetence. Its not "poor decisions and incompetence", its now openly in your face fleecing of America and stripping Americans of our civil rights. It will become much worse before it gets better.

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It's like I heard someone say recently…. Being a conspiracy theorist has become a badge of honor. I say that because I believe there are no conspiracies; but, there are no coincidences…

caryking said:

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Werewolf said:

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What goes on with the capture of our federal govt bureaucrats can be captured with what not the Cabal/NWO practices but also what the CCP practices. Here's an article with a very good overview.

https://richardsonpost.com/peter-schweizer/25896/elite-capture/?msclkid=dbc35682b27c11ec9c0e8f139a33b6dd

Again; our federal govt is captured. That's why we can look around and see poor decisions and incompetence. Its not "poor decisions and incompetence", its now openly in your face fleecing of America and stripping Americans of our civil rights. It will become much worse before it gets better.

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It's like I heard someone say recently…. Being a conspiracy theorist has become a badge of honor. I say that because I believe there are no conspiracies; but, there are no coincidences…

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Outstanding observation SKB :-)

caryking said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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The lady was convicted in court and there has been enough investigative journalism to make the allegations against Prince Andrew credible

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Buddy, if you think there's even a possibility 60 and 70 year old Republican congressmen and Senators are having cocaine filled orgies I don't know what else to say.

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Actually the highest rate of STDs in any segment of the population is the elderly in independent care facilities. Those old folks get down and there can be constant outbreaks of venereal disease because the old folks don't practice safe sex.

True Story...swear to God. My wife used to manage a department at a independent living facility when we lived in Raleigh and you'd be amazed at the stuff that is going on between folks there. It wasn't just where she worked either. We'd go to dinner with managers from other facilities and that was a normal thing

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That still want help Hokie admit Cawthorn's allegations have the possibility of a slither of truth.

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there's a huge difference between a retirement home folks and Republican congressman and senators. Also, no cocaine in retirement homes

hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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The lady was convicted in court and there has been enough investigative journalism to make the allegations against Prince Andrew credible

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Buddy, if you think there's even a possibility 60 and 70 year old Republican congressmen and Senators are having cocaine filled orgies I don't know what else to say.

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Actually the highest rate of STDs in any segment of the population is the elderly in independent care facilities. Those old folks get down and there can be constant outbreaks of venereal disease because the old folks don't practice safe sex.

True Story...swear to God. My wife used to manage a department at a independent living facility when we lived in Raleigh and you'd be amazed at the stuff that is going on between folks there. It wasn't just where she worked either. We'd go to dinner with managers from other facilities and that was a normal thing

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That still want help Hokie admit Cawthorn's allegations have the possibility of a slither of truth.

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there's a huge difference between a retirement home folks and Republican congressman and senators. Also, no cocaine in retirement homes

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Hokie, do you own or are you a General Manager of a retirement home? If so, then I can believe you have true insight into your bolded statement…

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caryking said:

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Werewolf said:

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What goes on with the capture of our federal govt bureaucrats can be captured with what not the Cabal/NWO practices but also what the CCP practices. Here's an article with a very good overview.

https://richardsonpost.com/peter-schweizer/25896/elite-capture/?msclkid=dbc35682b27c11ec9c0e8f139a33b6dd

Again; our federal govt is captured. That's why we can look around and see poor decisions and incompetence. Its not "poor decisions and incompetence", its now openly in your face fleecing of America and stripping Americans of our civil rights. It will become much worse before it gets better.

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It's like I heard someone say recently…. Being a conspiracy theorist has become a badge of honor. I say that because I believe there are no conspiracies; but, there are no coincidences…

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Outstanding observation SKB :-)

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Hey, I agree, give credit where it's due…. Watching right now!

Lol

Fiat dollars not accepted

hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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The lady was convicted in court and there has been enough investigative journalism to make the allegations against Prince Andrew credible

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Buddy, if you think there's even a possibility 60 and 70 year old Republican congressmen and Senators are having cocaine filled orgies I don't know what else to say.

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Actually the highest rate of STDs in any segment of the population is the elderly in independent care facilities. Those old folks get down and there can be constant outbreaks of venereal disease because the old folks don't practice safe sex.

True Story...swear to God. My wife used to manage a department at a independent living facility when we lived in Raleigh and you'd be amazed at the stuff that is going on between folks there. It wasn't just where she worked either. We'd go to dinner with managers from other facilities and that was a normal thing

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That still want help Hokie admit Cawthorn's allegations have the possibility of a slither of truth.

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there's a huge difference between a retirement home folks and Republican congressman and senators. Also, no cocaine in retirement homes

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To be fair I do feel like a bunch of the folks in DC should be in a facility instead of running the country..

Here the thing. If Cawthorn had said he was invited to an orgy at Roger Stones house or he saw Matt Gaetz get into an argument with a hooker because his credit card was declined I would probably believe him.

But to say someone like a Bill Bennett is out there doing key bumps while being an anti drug crusader or Steve Scalise is inviting him to orgies, it's just not believable

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Here the thing. If Cawthorn had said he was invited to an orgy at Roger Stones house or he saw Matt Gaetz get into an argument with a hooker because his credit card was declined I would probably believe him.

But to say someone like a Bill Bennett is out there doing key bumps while being an anti drug crusader or Steve Scalise is inviting him to orgies, it's just not believable

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Hokie, your bias is beyond reproach…

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Here the thing. If Cawthorn had said he was invited to an orgy at Roger Stones house or he saw Matt Gaetz get into an argument with a hooker because his credit card was declined I would probably believe him.

But to say someone like a Bill Bennett is out there doing key bumps while being an anti drug crusader or Steve Scalise is inviting him to orgies, it's just not believable

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Hokie, your bias is beyond reproach…

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I would also say if there were truly cocaine orgies happening in DC, we would've already heard about it from Biden.

I find a number of people on this board to be be something…. I don't know if it's narcissism, mean spirited, too smart for their own good, perhaps just dumb, leave no room for possibilities, or what else…

I have opinions; however, I try to leave room for other possibilities. The absolutes on here are really troubling for good dialogue. It's funny, BBW was run off for his absolutism along with making assertions that were personal. I believe if people weren't so absolute, in their own way, BBW's post would have washed off their back and they would have moved on…

Now I know why they couldn't handle him because these same people want to be right!!

I have thought that certain things, I have heard, would come true; however, I've tried to place those opinions and pieces of information as possibilities; not as fact! I still get absolutes chiming in for some reason, that, I don't know…

Some on here have tried to counter with ad hominem attacks. Yes, at times, those attacks would get under my skin and I say something that's beneath the person I want to be. Still, the personal attackers would come again.

I have spoken to multiple people, via DM's, and all say the same thing: as much as I disagree with Civ, at least you can have a reasonable dialogue with him…. I find that to be an interesting assessment compared to other assessments, I receive, on the board, who one would think have similar views.

I'm confident this post will illicit some type of attack on me. Those attacks will prove my point.

Agreed

Lol. I mean seriously, lol. Hokie is like the most reasonable guy on this board.

Funny, in all the back and forth posts about the NC congressmen, I've seen one poster call other posters names and describe them in negative ways

Guess he was just having a moment being something less than he wants to be

Dealing in absolutes does not equate to being reasonable.

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Lol. I mean seriously, lol. Hokie is like the most reasonable guy on this board.

Funny, in all the back and forth posts about the NC congressmen, I've seen one poster call other posters names and describe them in negative ways

Guess he was just having a moment being something less than he wants to be

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Chem, why do you think I was talking about Hokie? Or, any one person? Why the assumption?

Fine. There's a 1/2% chance that Cawthorn has been invited to an orgy of 60 and 70 year old Republican leaders where prominent anti drug legislators where doing key bumps of coke.

No longer absolute. You guys are starting g to convince me that this absurdity is actually reality.

My question to you all is why do you think this is a believable story? And your answer can't be "we don't know because we weren't there"

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Fine. There's a 1/2% chance that Cawthorn has been invited to an orgy of 60 and 70 year old Republican leaders where prominent anti drug legislators where doing key bumps of coke.

No longer absolute. You guys are starting g to convince me that this absurdity is actually reality.

My question to you all is why do you think this is a believable story? And your answer can't be "we don't know because we weren't there"

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Hokie, what makes you think I believe the story? I think I've been consistent in saying: I don't know! I'm going to take your 1/2% chance as sarcasm and not a real open for possibilities mindset.

The only reason I would consider this to be a believable story is because of the establishment Republican operatives. Just go read about how Karl Rove and Mitch McConnell are treating Eric Grietens in Missouri. No, there isn't any drugs or orgies; however, they are using the ex-wife to create an issue, probably because he is an America First candidate.

Cary, is Josh Hawley part of the establishment too?

If you hit a woman or a child, you belong in handcuffs, not the United States Senate. It’s time for Eric Greitens to leave this race https://t.co/RgCow67dDW

— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) March 21, 2022

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Cary, is Josh Hawley part of the establishment too?

If you hit a woman or a child, you belong in handcuffs, not the United States Senate. It’s time for Eric Greitens to leave this race https://t.co/RgCow67dDW

— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) March 21, 2022

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I didn't think so…. That statement came out of left field, for sure. The question is why did he make the statement? Based on what I've read, this whole thing is going in Grietins favor and the whole thing was made up by Karl Rove and associates…

This article tries to lay out the situation. BTW, this attorney is a major power player attorney…

https://tennesseestar.com/2022/03/30/charge-rove-manipulated-missouri-senate-hopeful-greitens-ex-wife-to-commit-perjury/

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Lol. I mean seriously, lol. Hokie is like the most reasonable guy on this board.

Funny, in all the back and forth posts about the NC congressmen, I've seen one poster call other posters names and describe them in negative ways

Guess he was just having a moment being something less than he wants to be

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Chem, why do you think I was talking about Hokie? Or, any one person? Why the assumption?

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You only argue with 3 people, lol, one of whom you were engaged in a disagreement with at the time of your comment. I don't know....call it intuition.
Or I guess, just out of the blue, you decided to talk about absolutes, lol. Right?

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Dealing in absolutes does not equate to being reasonable.

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Neither is trying to find the one exception to the rule so that you can be right? I mean, at the end of the day, Cawthorn's comments were unnecessary, unhelpful, and to any realistic thought, unlikely? Is that a fair assessment?

Instead, we have guys wanting to argue to find the one use case that proves that that it wasn't 100% made up...as if that justifies the comment to begin with?

I know some of the guys in here defending Cawthorn are very much in step with his America First agenda, but can't we all agree that it was just a dumb thing to say? And that it was right to call him to the carpet? And that frankly, it is embarrassing when leaders in the greatest country in the world have to resort to making such unnecessary comments?
Do politics really blind us so much to that?

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Steve Videtich said:

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Dealing in absolutes does not equate to being reasonable.

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Neither is trying to find the one exception to the rule so that you can be right? I mean, at the end of the day, Cawthorn's comments were unnecessary, unhelpful, and to any realistic thought, unlikely? Is that a fair assessment?

Instead, we have guys wanting to argue to find the one use case that proves that that it wasn't 100% made up...as if that justifies the comment to begin with?

I know some of the guys in here defending Cawthorn are very much in step with his America First agenda, but can't we all agree that it was just a dumb thing to say? And that it was right to call him to the carpet? And that frankly, it is embarrassing when leaders in the greatest country in the world have to resort to making such unnecessary comments?
Do politics really blind us so much to that?

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Call it what you want, don't give a ***** But, stating something as absolute assumes first hand knowledge. If somebody here has that... awesome! Arguing with an absolute statement without first hand knowledge is part of everybody's problem on here. Including myself!

No one is really answering my question as to why the proposed absurd situation that Cawthorn said occurred would have any truth to it?

Instead I'm being told I shouldn't think it's not absolutely possible he made it up and then directed to a totally different senate candidates issue.

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No one is really answering my question as to why the proposed absurd situation that Cawthorn said occurred would have any truth to it?

Instead I'm being told I shouldn't think it's not absolutely possible he made it up and then directed to a totally different senate candidates issue.

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Absolute - completely or totally
Possible - being something that may or may not occur