People can't figure out how Trump lost; incentive!



Mr. Incentive -

Get the muck out of the swamp!

Monica Palmer, chair of wayne county canvassers. watched the ballot containers not secured by board of canvassers, that we're considered uncertified to be counted. She reported it to the supervisor. Nothing done. How many votes in these containers, 100's per boxes. She has photos as part of her testimony. Submitting to the States Attorney General. Let's see what happens

Karen Courtis Poll challenger in Wayne County. Reviewed military ballots in Detroit. Saw 10's of military ballots with birthdates of Jan 1 1900. She tried to challenge their legitimacy and the supervisor wouldn't challenge such votes. Every single vote she tried challenge had that same date. Nothing happened.

Brian Henebector, witnessed in Wayne County (Detroit) that the particular polling machines were plugged into the internet/ethernet (illegal) Has pictures and sworn affidavit. Particular polling machines plugged into the internet are vulnerable to hacking. Blatant manipulation.


There's so much...only a few hours in..

https://therightscoop.com/watch-live-michigan-state-senate-committee-holding-hearing-with-trump-campaign-over-election-issues/

the info and testimony is so overwhelming. Not sure what's more amazing the amount of info and fraud or the way the media is completely ignoring it all. If this was a Biden/Gore recount it would be 24-7 covered news.

Saw this one live. 100% do military voters for Biden coming in would just the first obvious anomaly

DeEp StAtE!1!

PackBacker07 said:

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DeEp StAtE!1!

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I guess the 100's of thousands of sworn affidavits and testimonies are all fake. Scary to think if roles reversed against Biden. These hearing would be on CNN all day and rerun all day. News trying to win the court of opinion by ignoring evidence. Again people should watch the hearings. Make their own opinions. Cheers

Interesting hearing from another whistle blower. Armistad Project. The pictures with the evidence is compelling

130k plus votes manipulated process. Popcorn time

mrcpack17 said:

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You live in an echo chamber.

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What echo chamber is that? Sworn testimony and affidavits that are subject to perjury and jail time?

mrcpack17 said:

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You live in an echo chamber.

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and you don't?

caryking said:

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mrcpack17 said:

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You live in an echo chamber.

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and you don't?

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:-) Waiting for the FB/Twitter warnings on my posts lol. If this happened to Biden I would want to know. Amazing how things work only one way. It's like the investigations start with an already known answer. Worth asking ?'s

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You live in an echo chamber.

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and you don't?

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:-) Waiting for the FB/Twitter warnings on my posts lol. If this happened to Biden I would want to know. Amazing how things work only one way.

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you are wasting your time with these people... just let it go.

Trump said the Obama win was fraud in 2012, it was fraud in 2016 when they said Hilary got more votes and it was fraud and cheating in Iowa when Ted Cruz beat him there. Mamma and daddy did not teach Donald well. Donald, being the world's most prolific liar is a reason to repent or ask for forgiveness. When things make it to court; for some reason, most quit lying.

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Trump said the Obama win was fraud in 2012, it was fraud in 2016 when they said Hilary got more votes and it was fraud and cheating in Iowa when Ted Cruz beat him there. Mamma and daddy did not teach Donald well. Donald, being the world's most prolific liar is a reason to repent or ask for forgiveness. When things make it to court; for some reason, most quit lying.

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Cool story, so we shouldn't investigate this and all these 100,000 people/stories/voter irregularities are liars/fake?

Amistad Project being litigated by a former State attorney general. Going after FB too...this is great.

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Amistad Project being litigated by a former State attorney general. Going after FB too...this is great.

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You are going to learn that you need to move on. These people could be considered hacks...

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Dmax95 said:

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Amistad Project being litigated by a former State attorney general. Going after FB too...this is great.

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You are going to learn that you need to move on. These people could be considered hacks...

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The USPS whistleblowers is pretty compelling. The chain of evidence destroyed in other part of cases might be tough to follow involving FB. Again it's amazing the media and mainstream response is whether this will affect the outcome of the election, instead is there widespread fraud/what's the scale of such. Without a proper investigation you don't the answer to the first question so people just write it all off....so ass backwards. If someone whisteblows at a company, you don't respond with, well did it have a major effect or not? No you take such testimony, investigate it, and see how big the issue is for the best interest of the company. If someone seeks whistle blowing protection it should be respected and investigated. If nothing so be it. However, from listening to the evidence today there's clearly some USPS involved vote manipulation/fraud/destruction....across state lines and with over 100k votes and likely more. It's amazing how inconvenient the truths are at times for the media to portray. 80% of the country would likely agree, no matter who lost the election, these issues need investigating.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-ballots-defaulted-and-switched-biden-dominion-system-maricopa-gop-chairwoman

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Truthfully, I don't have the time to do all that between work and two children under 5. I will see what the courts say if there is something that gets overturned. Trump has placed 3 of the Supreme Court justices so if there's someone that will have a sympathetic ear for him then it's them.

My understanding is that many of the States made it clear ahead of election day that there would be significant shifts once they were allowed to start counting mail-in votes. Wisconsin and Pennsylvania I believe both weren't even beginning to review mail in ballots until Wednesday.

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LOL. Like that really tightens up the security.

But somehow that Pennsylvania Lt. Governor already knew that Biden was going to "easily" make up 600,000+ votes... before they ever even started counting them.

edit: already posted above

You're not watching any of the press conferences clearly. The eye witnesses of voter fraud independent of computers issues is glaring. 90% or testimonials and issues has nothing to do with software issues. It's how votes are handled. Trying to be nice but y'all just don't do any work on your own. Taking second hand accounts of all the info vs watching it seems obvious. The dude your quoting is Reuters/AP hack. Never mind. You win.

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You're not watching any of the press conferences clearly. The eye witnesses of voter fraud independent of computers issues is glaring. 90% or testimonials and issues has nothing to do with software issues. It's how votes are handled. Trying to be nice but y'all just don't do any work on your own. Taking second hand accounts of all the info vs watching it seems obvious. The dude your quoting is

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People saying they think they saw something is literally meaningless. If they have no proof to back it up then why should we take a single one of the "witnesses" seriously? One witness claimed that ballots for Biden were scanned 8 to 10 times each to up the number in Michigan. That should be very easily verifiable so go find the voters for Biden that were counted 8 to 10 times. We'll all be here waiting.

They've had "witnesses" in several lawsuits already and they've all been thrown out of court as hearsay because no actual evidence was provided.

It's honestly frustrating that you can distrust the MSM so bluntly (not necessarily a bad position to take in a vacuum) but then you believe all of these random people for no real reason at all. They offer nothing but words as evidence, no evidence to back up what they keep claiming has been brought forth. The logic doesn't make sense to me as to why you trust these people.

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People submitting sworn testimonies and affidavits, some with evidence included. Some with stories confirmed by others as well. Perjury means something??? lol. Watch the Briefings or be the broken record of your beliefs. You're just toting the party line. Watched 30 plus hours of such briefings lately. You're saying the same stuff everyone who hasn't watched anything says or repeating the media plot points to distract the possibility of investigation. Yawner. Peace out.

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jadawson said:

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Dmax95 said:

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You're not watching any of the press conferences clearly. The eye witnesses of voter fraud independent of computers issues is glaring. 90% or testimonials and issues has nothing to do with software issues. It's how votes are handled. Trying to be nice but y'all just don't do any work on your own. Taking second hand accounts of all the info vs watching it seems obvious. The dude your quoting is

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People saying they think they saw something is literally meaningless. If they have no proof to back it up then why should we take a single one of the "witnesses" seriously? One witness claimed that ballots for Biden were scanned 8 to 10 times each to up the number in Michigan. That should be very easily verifiable so go find the voters for Biden that were counted 8 to 10 times. We'll all be here waiting.

They've had "witnesses" in several lawsuits already and they've all been thrown out of court as hearsay because no actual evidence was provided.

It's honestly frustrating that you can distrust the MSM so bluntly (not necessarily a bad position to take in a vacuum) but then you believe all of these random people for no real reason at all. They offer nothing but words as evidence, no evidence to back up what they keep claiming has been brought forth. The logic doesn't make sense to me as to why you trust these people.

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People submitting sworn testimonies and affidavits, some with evidence included. Some with stories confirmed by others as well. Perjury means something??? lol. Watch the Briefings or be the broken record of your beliefs. You're just toting the party line. Watched 30 plus hours of such briefings lately. You're saying the same stuff everyone who hasn't watched anything says or repeating the media plot points to distract the possibility of investigation. Yawner. Peace out.

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Then submit the evidence to court. They've been saying for weeks now that hey have evidence and yet miraculously none of it has made its way into a courtroom....

Every lawsuit that has included affidavits so far has either been dismissed or the plaintiff's have withdrawn the case themselves.

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Last comment. Not sure what planet you're from or even understand law, but building a case with tons of moving parts/potentially across state lines and bringing it to court takes time. The vast lawsuits and junk submitted to gum up the courts and get the media's attention was the initial wave to convince know nothings to stop looking. The real cases are being built and evidence being presented as time goes on. You can see it like the masses will or not. Wasting time trying to explain how a legit lawsuit isn't just drawn up in quick time and expect to win. It's a joke I have to say such but I guess most don't get it. Time isn't on Trumps side and I get that. In the end I could care less if he gets re-elected. What most want to see left or right is their vote mean something and not a part of a fake choice banana republic style election system that's starting to grow. You accept cheating the system with such rampant abuses and it will only get worse.

interesting listen

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Dmax95 said:

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jadawson said:

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Dmax95 said:

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You're not watching any of the press conferences clearly. The eye witnesses of voter fraud independent of computers issues is glaring. 90% or testimonials and issues has nothing to do with software issues. It's how votes are handled. Trying to be nice but y'all just don't do any work on your own. Taking second hand accounts of all the info vs watching it seems obvious. The dude your quoting is

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People saying they think they saw something is literally meaningless. If they have no proof to back it up then why should we take a single one of the "witnesses" seriously? One witness claimed that ballots for Biden were scanned 8 to 10 times each to up the number in Michigan. That should be very easily verifiable so go find the voters for Biden that were counted 8 to 10 times. We'll all be here waiting.

They've had "witnesses" in several lawsuits already and they've all been thrown out of court as hearsay because no actual evidence was provided.

It's honestly frustrating that you can distrust the MSM so bluntly (not necessarily a bad position to take in a vacuum) but then you believe all of these random people for no real reason at all. They offer nothing but words as evidence, no evidence to back up what they keep claiming has been brought forth. The logic doesn't make sense to me as to why you trust these people.

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People submitting sworn testimonies and affidavits, some with evidence included. Some with stories confirmed by others as well. Perjury means something??? lol. Watch the Briefings or be the broken record of your beliefs. You're just toting the party line. Watched 30 plus hours of such briefings lately. You're saying the same stuff everyone who hasn't watched anything says or repeating the media plot points to distract the possibility of investigation. Yawner. Peace out.

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Then submit the evidence to court. They've been saying for weeks now that hey have evidence and yet miraculously none of it has made its way into a courtroom....

Every lawsuit that has included affidavits so far has either been dismissed or the plaintiff's have withdrawn the case themselves.

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Last comment. Not sure what planet you're from or even understand law, but building a case with tons of moving parts/potentially across state lines and bringing it to court takes time. The vast lawsuits and junk submitted to gum up the courts and get the media's attention was the initial wave to convince know nothings to stop looking. The real cases are being built and evidence being presented as time goes on. You can see it like the masses will or not. Wasting time trying to explain how a legit lawsuit isn't just drawn up in quick time and expect to win. It's a joke I have to say such but I guess most don't get it. Time isn't on Trumps side and I get that. In the end I could care less if he gets re-elected. What most want to see left or right is their vote mean something and not a part of a fake choice banana republic style election system that's starting to grow. You accept cheating the system with such rampant abuses and it will only get worse.

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They've had nearly a month to get something together and have failed to provide anything resembling evidence in a court of law yet. You clearly think the waiting game is a legal strategy so let's let if play out. Im not going to post in this thread again until 12/14 when the electoral college is finalized. i'll be very disappointed in some people if they still believe this to be a stolen election after then.

Awesome, TDS usually takes more than 2 weeks to wear off but we're pulling for ya. :-)

Wolfpackrich1 said:

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Man I left this forum a bout 7 or 8 days ago when this election fraud accused by the president was dismissed or thrown out about 30 times in court. And I come back and still talking same fake news.

What a sham. I will give Trump this his followers would walk off a cliff for him.

At this point it is obvious he does not care how history will view him. I just wonder why his followers do not care either.

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Rich,
Thanks for your awesome input, and saying anyone who thinks this should be investigated should walk off a cliff. Have a good day bud.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/doj-fires-back-at-news-orgs-claiming-voter-fraud-probes-are-over-thats-not-what-ag-barr-said

Hah

Not what I said. However I see a lot of blind following here. Reposting things with no evidence to support it just because President Trump said it. While at same time courts keep saying no evidence no case.
Case dismissed. Fake news. History will look upon you badly.

https://twitter.com/drunkdoing****/status/1333811403392651264?s=20

The feeling one gets when the TDS folks just don't care to look at the mountains of evidence of voter fraud. Those same people haven't spent a minute watching any of the hearings, testimony, or allegations being presented.