Pacfanweb said:

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metcalfmafia said:

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This would be a COLOSSAL mistake for Biden.

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Agreed. To run from a debate will only add fuel to the fire that he is not all "with it".

If the Democrats think that their candidate is not smart enough or sharp enough to make Trump look silly in a debate, then they have chosen poorly.

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I don't think it's as much the Presidential candidates themselves but the people they'll have working with them and which guy will let those people do their job? The position they've been put in place to do. It's like Nick Saban playing Ohio State by himself...110 or so vs. 1.

Where are these people?

Trump and Biden talked about here

"Busted! Biden Town Hall Attendees in Kenosha Were Given Scripts to Follow"


https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/09/03/biden-town-hall-attendees-in-kenosha-were-given-scripts-to-follow-n886134

SupplyChainPack said:

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"Busted! Biden Town Hall Attendees in Kenosha Were Given Scripts to Follow"


https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/09/03/biden-town-hall-attendees-in-kenosha-were-given-scripts-to-follow-n886134

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That guy specifically cut off the clip to make it look bad. Here's the full video. Also, she has stated that the "script" was given to her by the organization she was there representing, not by the campaign.

C'mon man! Think about it! Hunter, is that you? Where's Hunter?

jadawson said:

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SupplyChainPack said:

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"Busted! Biden Town Hall Attendees in Kenosha Were Given Scripts to Follow"


https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/09/03/biden-town-hall-attendees-in-kenosha-were-given-scripts-to-follow-n886134

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That guy specifically cut off the clip to make it look bad. Here's the full video. Also, she has stated that the "script" was given to her by the organization she was there representing, not by the campaign.

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Still looks bad. (Esp. when you understand how much he misrepresented there).
It's pretty obvious why they've been hiding him in the basement.

SupplyChainPack said:

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jadawson said:

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SupplyChainPack said:

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"Busted! Biden Town Hall Attendees in Kenosha Were Given Scripts to Follow"


https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/09/03/biden-town-hall-attendees-in-kenosha-were-given-scripts-to-follow-n886134

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That guy specifically cut off the clip to make it look bad. Here's the full video. Also, she has stated that the "script" was given to her by the organization she was there representing, not by the campaign.

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Still looks bad. (Esp. when you understand how much he misrepresented there).
It's pretty obvious why they've been hiding him in the basement.

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It does still look bad, it just looks bad for a different reason.

I just hate when "journalists" use edited videos or out of context quotes to try and make someone look bad. I hate it regardless of what side of the aisle it is occurring on. It's one of reasons people don't trust the media anymore and this was a prime example of it. So i wanted to post the full video to allow people to form their own opinion, not the opinion that "pjmedia" apparently wants them to form.

No, her long list of demands, complaints and assertions are easy to answer. Her bitterness that she isn't getting more free stuff would be laughable if it weren't so sad.
She is the result of a culture that is telling her - even in a welfare state - that she is owed something just because she exists.
And yes, she is an activist/organizer. It's her job to stay mad and blame everyone else for her problems - and to organize mobs of people to do the same.

Steve Williams said:

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I just wonder with Covid, racial unrest, police defunding....do you guys think all of this is going to drive a lot of folks to vote for Trump who wouldn't have otherwise?

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Yes.

Steve Williams said:

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I just wonder with Covid, racial unrest, police defunding....do you guys think all of this is going to drive a lot of folks to vote for Trump who wouldn't have otherwise?

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No; No one in the history of earth has told more lies than Donald John Trump in 74 years! I'd put money on that. Dude is a real pro; telling lies is the only thing he's really good at!

1. The Covid Timeline ain't how DJT tells it and that has been 100 different ways

2. My opinion and it's been proven in many cases is that many times "others" in the protest groups are doing and egging on violence and unrest.....like the fire started by the Hell's Angel White Supremacist. I guess you still have to get a per,it to protest? People who destroy things when doing so need to be put in jail and brought before a judge. What does this man say about it?

3. Defunding?

It's Under Control

Character, Compassion and Decency

What does Mike Pence have to say?

Steve Williams said:

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I just wonder with Covid, racial unrest, police defunding....do you guys think all of this is going to drive a lot of folks to vote for Trump who wouldn't have otherwise?

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Why covid?
That's actually one of the issues Biden leads him most on. According to polling at least

packgrad said:

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Blaming white supremacists for all of the looting, attacks, mobs harassing people at dinner, etc will also drive more people to voting for Trump also.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8570539/Minneapolis-Umbrella-Man-Hells-Angel-gang-member-ties-white-supremacist-group.html

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/28/police-hells-angel-sparked-minneapolis-riots-after-floyds-death/

https://www.ajc.com/news/police-identify-umbrella-man-as-associate-of-hells-angels-white-supremacists/SQRRJU52ABGU5ENHMCUHN6ZTLY/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-hells-angel-sparked-minneapolis-riots-floyd-72041173

ciscopack said:

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packgrad said:

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Blaming white supremacists for all of the looting, attacks, mobs harassing people at dinner, etc will also drive more people to voting for Trump also.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8570539/Minneapolis-Umbrella-Man-Hells-Angel-gang-member-ties-white-supremacist-group.html

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/28/police-hells-angel-sparked-minneapolis-riots-after-floyds-death/

https://www.ajc.com/news/police-identify-umbrella-man-as-associate-of-hells-angels-white-supremacists/SQRRJU52ABGU5ENHMCUHN6ZTLY/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-hells-angel-sparked-minneapolis-riots-floyd-72041173

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Yes, you're exactly the kind of person I'm talking about. Don't believe your eyes. It's the white supremacists!

packgrad said:

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Blaming white supremacists for all of the looting, attacks, mobs harassing people at dinner, etc will also drive more people to voting for Trump also.

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Not just them....many on the far out left and far out right are taking this as their own....to cause more unrest and Trump likes it. He wants to stir his base.

4 groups suspected here

Left and Right extremists
[url=https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article243553662.html][/url]
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article243553662.html

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-05-31/officials-see-extremist-groups-disinformation-in-protests

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-47332054

THE NUTS IN OTHER WORDS!!! LEFT NUT AND RIGHT NUT

Nah - the left owns the riots. Heck, they've been rioting on and off since Trump won in 2016. Mostly on.

The violent left never grew up. When they lose, they throw violent temper tantrums.

Truly we have never seen an age with so many adults who never grew up.

IseWolf22 said:

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Steve Williams said:

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I just wonder with Covid, racial unrest, police defunding....do you guys think all of this is going to drive a lot of folks to vote for Trump who wouldn't have otherwise?

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Why covid?
That's actually one of the issues Biden leads him most on. According to polling at least

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Current riots are definitely a plus for Trump, but he has a lot of ground to make up.

Active duty military favor Biden, which was not the case in 2016 with Clinton.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/31/as-trumps-popularity-slips-in-latest-military-times-poll-more-troops-say-theyll-vote-for-biden/

Most of you will dismiss this article as lies, but it illustrates why a lot of the military doesn't like him. The 4 veterans in my extended family are the biggest Never Trumpers I know
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

Pacfanweb said:

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As much BS as Trump spews, I don't believe for a second that he said the things about fallen soldiers that is in that article. And he's now denied it on Twitter as well as one of his aides that denied it first.

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They are throwing alot of dung against the wall in rapid succession now. I think they are nervous. ( and they certainly don't mind lying).

Pacfanweb said:

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As much BS as Trump spews, I don't believe for a second that he said the things about fallen soldiers that is in that article. And he's now denied it on Twitter as well as one of his aides that denied it first.

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I don't either. It's obvious who the article was written for and who will believe it. It has certainly been thoroughly denied by previous and current staff though. I guess unnamed sources matter more. Fwiw, all all 6 of the veterans in my family are voting Trump.

John McCain - American hero, Statesman and Patriot!

I 've never read about McCain's time as a POW; I only know what I've heard on TV. He was a great Senator too! I do know a Republican friend in Carthage who was a POW for over 3 years during the Korean War; a very quiet man, whose son was a good buddy of mine. My buddy died from cancer a few years ago. I know about his uses of coals during his time in that hellish prison including on sores and brushing his teeth and I know of his eating mice, rats and bugs that he captured to try and stay alive. I know when the 80 lb. man (who was 160 when he went to war) came home to a parade in Fayetteville, NC, which he didn't really want, he was really glad to be here. His story makes me think of John McCain's struggles too. My friend from Carthage, NC is an American hero!!!!!

I know the McCain family did not invite President Trump to his funeral and I know he did not want to go anyway.

What did the President say about McCain?

He called John McCain a LOSER

Meghan McCain's husband

Then you have the American Left's governor threatening the president's life if he comes to NYC. Yet another Democrat leader essentially encouraging violence.

Ripper said:

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IseWolf22 said:

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IseWolf22 said:

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Steve Williams said:

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I just wonder with Covid, racial unrest, police defunding....do you guys think all of this is going to drive a lot of folks to vote for Trump who wouldn't have otherwise?

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Why covid?
That's actually one of the issues Biden leads him most on. According to polling at least

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Current riots are definitely a plus for Trump, but he has a lot of ground to make up.

Active duty military favor Biden, which was not the case in 2016 with Clinton.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/31/as-trumps-popularity-slips-in-latest-military-times-poll-more-troops-say-theyll-vote-for-biden/

Most of you will dismiss this article as lies, but it illustrates why a lot of the military doesn't like him. The 4 veterans in my extended family are the biggest Never Trumpers I know
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

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Yeah, more fake news.

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This isn't going to change any minds. For those who don't like him, this is entirely consistent with his character and his public remarks about McCain. For those that do like him, it's 100% a smear.
*Shrug*
I'm beginning to agree with the poster that said we should just vote already

I prefer having to wait it out. I want to see how far down the hole Biden goes and see the people that still vote for him. It's tragically unfair his family and handlers are allowing him to be in this position.

packgrad said:

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Meghan McCain's husband

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/21/how-did-donald-trump-john-mccain-feud-begin-obsession/3228906002/

Jim Mattis -- Trump's first defense secretary .... on Trump

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/james-mattis-denounces-trump-protests-militarization/612640/

John Kelly -- former Trump chief of Staff ..... on Trump
[url=https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-chief-staff-john-kelly-voters-harder-elect/story?id=71093630][/url]
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-chief-staff-john-kelly-voters-harder-elect/story?id=71093630

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-kelly-chief-of-staff-agrees-mattis-trump-is-bad-for-the-country-2020-6

Mike Mullen -- former Joint Chiefs chairman ... on Trump

I Cannot Remain Silent

John Allen -- headed forces in Afghanistan ... on Trump
[url=https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/john-allen-trump-protests-george-floyd/index.html][/url]
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/john-allen-trump-protests-george-floyd/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/04/trump-military-retired-general-john-allen-protest

Martin Dempsey -- former Joint Chiefs chairman ...on Trump

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dempsey-trumps-inflammatory-threat-active-duty-troops-hurts/story?id=71110603

https://www.axios.com/martin-dempsey-trump-george-floyd-military-51ef4d9e-83af-43f4-9c09-4882ff7c2b81.html

William McRaven -- led Special Operations Command ... on Trump

https://www.businessinsider.com/william-mcraven-against-trump-navy-seal-presidency-2019-10

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/opinion/trump-mcraven-syria-military.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/mcraven-forcefully-clearing-protesters-for-trump-photo-op-not-right-2020-6

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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/11/military-officers-trump/598360/

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