caryking said:
Mormad said:
It's funny, I want to be pissed at you when you come at me like that and act like I'm stupid, but really I find your childish attempts at boorish behavior to be pitiful. You're a complete simpleton who admittedly would rather appear the fool than to take a vaccine that frankly has very little chance of hurting you (despite your best pathetic efforts to argue otherwise) and lacks the sophistication, maturity, and intelligence to discuss topics rationally and instead reverts to childish behavior like name calling. And then in the most beautiful irony you laughably describe yourself as a "truther" and describe the truth as so easy to find and yet you simply can't find it and continue to post falsehoods because you admittedly can't determine what is true and what is false. I've forgotten more about medicine and caring for people than you've ever learned. Grow the fck up, "bro."
Mormad, how do we take all these deaths? The Ed Dowd person, above, is coming at this from an interesting perspective. On the surface, something definitely appears to be off…
Thoughts?
Cary, do you mean excess deaths, sudden deaths? I didn't look at the Ed Dowd thing, but I will since you asked.
Some quick thoughts and I'll try to get some better discussion down for you later today, Cary:
SADS has been around since long before this pandemic and vaxxes. Is the incidence different? I don't think so, but why do people like were try so hard, so often falsely, to link every single incidence to the Vax if it's so very obvious the incidence is so high because of the Vax? There would be no need. He is the king of post hoc fallacy. Those most convicted in their beliefs are often the least learned.
The Died Suddenly crap used examples of people who never died, died before the pandemic, died of things unrelated to the Vax, used vid from 2019, and showed vid of a clot being taken out of the vessels of a dead person. Guess what our blood does when we die. Blood that is not moving clots. We cut ourselves, blood drips on a surface, and it clots. And while a deep dive into the data leads to some interesting discussion, the excess death curves closely mirror the pandemic deaths curve before and after the vaxxes.
As I've said before, there are real causes of excess deaths with covid number 1 on the list. This makes sense since it's the number 3 COD now (or was). But also guess what people stopped doing during the pandemic. Going to the doctor. So the typical leading CODs like heart disease, cancer, hypertension, diabetes, psych disorders etc went largely untreated, unfound, and/or unmanaged until too late. Vaxxes, despite what you've been lied to about here, are WAY down that list, my friend. Would it then also make some sense that the rates of those diseases over the last year seem a little higher since people have largely resumed going to see their doctors?
For the sake of argument, let's pretend that SADS incidence has indeed sky rocketed. Let's pretend the Vax really does horrible things to people (there are potential side effects to every single medical treatment known to man, and given the sheer number of doses given many of us know people who have suffered some side effect. That math isn't hard. But look around, if people were dropping like flies at the rates lied about, wouldn't you personally know it given the numbers of vaccinated in your immediate vicinity?). THERE IS NOTHING THE VAX CAN DO TO YOU THAT THE VIRUS CAN'T DO BETTER AND AT HIGHER RATES. The virus causes more death, more clots, more myocarditis, more spikes in organs, and more morbidity than the Vax by a HUGE order of magnitude. I have seen it with my own eyes. We have personally watched 1000s of admissions as people gasp for air from the virus, and I'm not aware of one single admission from complications of the vaccine though I'm sure a few teens with myocarditis came in. So excuse me if I don't trust the words of Dr Ryan Cole or whoever over my own eyes/ears/experiences. I suspect you really don't blame me for that.
The pandemic has changed though, and for many reasons, one of which is access to vaccines.
And if 99.99% have now been exposed to the virus, how do people in were's blog know when SADS occurs if the culprit is a complication of the Vax or the virus? The proximity of the incident to the Vax or the virus? Does were have some magical way of parsing out complications related to spike proteins of mRNA vs viral spikes? Brother, please. Most of the examples given here are false, and there's a reason for that.
Whew, that was longer than I wanted to do right now. I'm sorry. I do have some thoughts on the current "pandemic" and continued boosters.