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Wayland
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So not that anyone cares about the pandemic anymore, since it is basically over.

I mean, I barely care... but since NC numbers only come out once a week, I do this out of habit.

Hospitalizations WITH COVID basically flat. ICUs WITH COVID at pandemic low.

We are just about at our spring wave/bump peak.



Nothingburger compared to the winter.

Week over week case increase is slowing... for now, I am going to guess the mini-spike at the end is reflective of Easter holiday testing disruptions.



Now... if Fauci, Walensky, Jha (... the list goes on ...) can all lose their jobs and never be heard from again.... public health would be better off.
GuerrillaPack
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Civilized said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Werewolf said:



OK; I'll agree to remove it. How about that. I'll be more careful about what I post and I'll anxiously await the medical professionals assessments in those cases too. I appreciate your readiing. Fair enough?


Trust the experts. Trust the science. Safe and effective. Safe and effective. Ignorance is strength. Slavery is freedom.

There are clear differences between trust and blind trust. Nobody here is advocating for blind trust of authority.

The irony of course is that you do the exact opposite and blindly distrust experts and science and uniformly adopt the anti-conventional science/expert stance
. That's no more rigorous a position than blind trust.

It makes zero sense to rely exclusively on "doing your own research" when you can research and observe by proxy and rely on tremendously large data sets and trends to make a much better-informed decision.

There is no substitute for the volume and value of big data aggregation, and of practicing physicians' clinical experience. You can use your own experience (data set size of 1) and add to it some "research" on social media and forums like this. That may get your sample size up to 15, or 20, or 50.

That's half a day or two of seeing patients for a physicians. Multiply that times the 200-odd days they work a year, times all the physicians across the country. Massive data set from which to draw extremely pertinent information, and add to that the fact that physicians are trained and experienced to understand, contextualize, and communicate the nuance of their experiences.

Who would want to rely exclusively on "their own research" when we have access to the data and experiences of physicians on the front lines of this across the country/around the world?
You're so quick to defend everyone in the pro-vaxx camp who is toeing the line on the official covid narrative as "not blindly following authority".

But then you're so quick to accuse people like me of "blindly distrusting the experts and the science".

Painting with quite a broad brush there. Perhaps many in your camp ARE blindly following the so-called "experts", CDC, and far Left commie Lamestream media and government Establishment complex. And perhaps people like me are not "blindly" distrusting the so-called "experts" and Establishment. Perhaps we've done a lot of research on all sides, and come to a more informed knowledge/conclusion about these matters. Perhaps we distrust them in the light of an overwhelming amount of evidence that proves they are not worthy of trust.

The thing about so-called "conspiracy theorists" like myself is that at least we have looked at the other side of the issue. Probably 90% of those who toe the line with the Establishment have not even considered the other side of these arguments, and basically have only considered the official view.

Just face the elephant in the room here...there is something DEEPLY wrong with the Establishment institutions in this country, and the world -- big government, big Establishment media, academia, etc. They are wholly corrupt, and run by wicked people, at the highest levels of leadership. And that includes the medical Establishment -- led by the likes of Fauci and the CDC and FDA, etc. And given this, much of the "data" and "studies" you are lauding as supporting your pro-vaxx position are worthless. It's lies (manipulated and fraudulent "data") used to push their agenda. That doesn't mean that every doctor is bad. There are good doctors out there. But they are largely controlled by a corrupt system. They cannot speak the truth in many cases, or risk losing their license or job in the system.

The cabal that runs Fauci and the CDC have captured and control the entire Establishment medical system. They've dictated medical boards across the country to revoke the license of any doctor that speaks out against the "official" covid narrative. Now you've even got the Biden Administration instructing Big Tech to censor and silence anyone who speaks out against the official narrative. But I'm supposed to trust the "data" and "studies" from this medical Establishment?

As you might be able to see, this makes finding the information that goes against the official narrative even more difficult -- because so few doctors are brave enough to speak out, and then you have to do some digging to find the information (because of the censorship). And then, of course, all the dupes parrot the propaganda that anyone who dares to believe something that goes against the criminal Establishment is a "nut" who's views are just "paranoid conspiracy theories".
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Werewolf
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Wayland said:

So not that anyone cares about the pandemic anymore, since it is basically over.

I mean, I barely care... but since NC numbers only come out once a week, I do this out of habit.

Hospitalizations WITH COVID basically flat. ICUs WITH COVID at pandemic low.

We are just about at our spring wave/bump peak.



Nothingburger compared to the winter.

Week over week case increase is slowing... for now, I am going to guess the mini-spike at the end is reflective of Easter holiday testing disruptions.



Now... if Fauci, Walensky, Jha (... the list goes on ...) can all lose their jobs and never be heard from again.... public health would be better off.
Watch what's happening in Shanghai and Beijing now. We will soon have COVID again with a bigger hammer. Can they do American metropolitan areas like they're doing there and get away with it. Will our urban area populations comply?
TheStorm
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I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
Civilized
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TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.

Agree 100%.
GuerrillaPack
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TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
None of it is getting "lost". It's a false argument to whine to the mods to censor people and remove the posts of those you disagree with, claiming that you "can't find" the posts from the posters you agree with.

It's real easy to find/see everything posted here.

And if it really is making it that difficult for you to find it, then put the posters you disagree with on "ignore", using the "ignore" feature.

And this thread is not being "ruined" because people you disagree with happen to post in it.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
TheStorm
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GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
None of it is getting "lost". It's a false argument to whine to the mods to censor people and remove the posts of those you disagree with, claiming that you "can't find" the posts from the posters you agree with.

It's real easy to find/see everything posted here.

And this thread is not being "ruined" because people you disagree with happen to post in it.
Is your name Wayland? and the last person that should be talking about anybody whining on this thread is you...

Citizens Arrest! Citizen's Arrest!
GuerrillaPack
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TheStorm said:

GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
None of it is getting "lost". It's a false argument to whine to the mods to censor people and remove the posts of those you disagree with, claiming that you "can't find" the posts from the posters you agree with.

It's real easy to find/see everything posted here.

And this thread is not being "ruined" because people you disagree with happen to post in it.
Is your name Wayland? and the last person that should be talking about anybody whining on this thread is you...

Citizens Arrest! Citizen's Arrest!
Wasn't it you that flagged a million posts? YOU are the one whining to the mods, trying to get people censored.

What have I whined about?

YOU are the one squealing and crying to the mods, "pwease mods censor these posters, and make it so my thread is a safe space!"...."mods, arrest these posters...they're ruining my favorite thread!"

Not me boss. I've never once asked the mods to censor anyone.

Just like a typical Leftist...always projecting what you are onto everyone else.
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PackFansXL
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All you have to do is click on the name of the poster you dislike and choose Ignore to solve your problems. It's easy if you're a Premium member. Don't make me flag those whiner posts.
TheStorm
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I'm just amazed that anybody could be that clueless to reality.
wolfman18
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Mormad
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Storm is a Leftist?
GuerrillaPack
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Mormad said:

Storm is a Leftist?
He's acting like one. Seems like a RINO from what I've seen.
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Civilized
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Nothing, and I mean NOTHING says "Storm" like "safe space." Absolute synonyms in my book.

Y'all chill with the right on right crime.
Cthepack
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GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
None of it is getting "lost". It's a false argument to whine to the mods to censor people and remove the posts of those you disagree with, claiming that you "can't find" the posts from the posters you agree with.

It's real easy to find/see everything posted here.

And if it really is making it that difficult for you to find it, then put the posters you disagree with on "ignore", using the "ignore" feature.

And this thread is not being "ruined" because people you disagree with happen to post in it.


I do not believe anyone is suggesting censorship. You can start a new thread and I am sure the people on this thread saying it is getting clogged up would not care.
GuerrillaPack
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Cthepack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
None of it is getting "lost". It's a false argument to whine to the mods to censor people and remove the posts of those you disagree with, claiming that you "can't find" the posts from the posters you agree with.

It's real easy to find/see everything posted here.

And if it really is making it that difficult for you to find it, then put the posters you disagree with on "ignore", using the "ignore" feature.

And this thread is not being "ruined" because people you disagree with happen to post in it.


I do not believe anyone is suggesting censorship. You can start a new thread and I am sure the people on this thread saying it is getting clogged up would not care.


We've already hashed this out ad nauseum.

We don't have to toe the line of Fauci, Lamestream media, and the Biden administration in order to post in this thread.

Not allowing views in this thread that go against the Establishment narrative WOULD be censorship.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
Cthepack
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GuerrillaPack said:

Cthepack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
None of it is getting "lost". It's a false argument to whine to the mods to censor people and remove the posts of those you disagree with, claiming that you "can't find" the posts from the posters you agree with.

It's real easy to find/see everything posted here.

And if it really is making it that difficult for you to find it, then put the posters you disagree with on "ignore", using the "ignore" feature.

And this thread is not being "ruined" because people you disagree with happen to post in it.


I do not believe anyone is suggesting censorship. You can start a new thread and I am sure the people on this thread saying it is getting clogged up would not care.


We've already hashed this out ad nauseum.

We don't have to toe the line of Fauci, Lamestream media, and the Biden administration in order to post in this thread.

Not allowing views in this thread that go against the Establishment narrative WOULD be censorship.


Then start a thread demonstrating where the establishment is wrong. People on here are clever enough to view two different threads.
BBW12OG
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Well.... Sleepy Joe has just instituted an "Administer of Mis-Information.."

She's a real champ of freedom of speech...

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Werewolf
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Cthepack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Cthepack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
None of it is getting "lost". It's a false argument to whine to the mods to censor people and remove the posts of those you disagree with, claiming that you "can't find" the posts from the posters you agree with.

It's real easy to find/see everything posted here.

And if it really is making it that difficult for you to find it, then put the posters you disagree with on "ignore", using the "ignore" feature.

And this thread is not being "ruined" because people you disagree with happen to post in it.


I do not believe anyone is suggesting censorship. You can start a new thread and I am sure the people on this thread saying it is getting clogged up would not care.


We've already hashed this out ad nauseum.

We don't have to toe the line of Fauci, Lamestream media, and the Biden administration in order to post in this thread.

Not allowing views in this thread that go against the Establishment narrative WOULD be censorship.


Then start a thread demonstrating where the establishment is wrong. People on here are clever enough to view two different threads.
But will you submit to the nucleic acid test when it arrives here?



Did you fall for the nonsense the 1st time? Will you again when it arrives?

You can actually see many Chinese resisting the CCP efforts in this film.......without arms. They refuse to come out of their apts to test but also starve to do so.

When your totalitarian federal govt and complicit state authorities require the nucleic test as you enter the grocery, will you go without, or will you submit? My trips to NC have not shown much cleverness honestly. When you've submitted and worn masks for more than a year, how clever are you really?

Stand up for yourselves and be free men! Have we forgotten?

Werewolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

Mormad said:

Storm is a Leftist?
He's acting like one. Seems like a RINO from what I've seen.
Not really paying enough attention. It takes a lot of time to understand you're being played by the system. Follows those crumbs into the corrner of the room routinely. Hannity is really good at his job.
Werewolf
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TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
Be sure to get the latest updates on mask designs. Certain ones are better than others.
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Civilized said:

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING says "Storm" like "safe space." Absolute synonyms in my book.

Y'all chill with the right on right crime.
He's not worthy of the name. Trump would puke at the thought.

We will still be in the hands of Mitch McConnell going on 99 and Kevin McCarthy right behnd him with too many of these types of s$orrms.. Nothing would change with the GOP. We have a chance this time.

The Tea Party had a shot and the Obama gestapo came after them. The RINO's looked the other way. They will again.
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Warewolf, GuerrillaPack:

Which one of you guys is Neo and which one is Morpheus?

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Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING says "Storm" like "safe space." Absolute synonyms in my book.

Y'all chill with the right on right crime.
He's not worthy of the name. Trump would puke at the thought.

We will still be in the hands of Mitch McConnell going on 99 and Kevin McCarthy right behnd him with too many of these types of s$orrms.. Nothing would change with the GOP. We have a chance this time.

The Tea Party had a shot and the Obama gestapo came after them. The RINO's looked the other way. They will again.
The Tea Party didn't have the strategic smarts to take over the GOP when they had the chance.
Werewolf
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Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING says "Storm" like "safe space." Absolute synonyms in my book.

Y'all chill with the right on right crime.
He's not worthy of the name. Trump would puke at the thought.

We will still be in the hands of Mitch McConnell going on 99 and Kevin McCarthy right behnd him with too many of these types of s$orrms.. Nothing would change with the GOP. We have a chance this time.

The Tea Party had a shot and the Obama gestapo came after them. The RINO's looked the other way. They will again.
The Tea Party didn't have the strategic smarts to take over the GOP when they had the chance.
I don't disagree....... This is certainly our best shot.
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Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING says "Storm" like "safe space." Absolute synonyms in my book.

Y'all chill with the right on right crime.
He's not worthy of the name. Trump would puke at the thought.

We will still be in the hands of Mitch McConnell going on 99 and Kevin McCarthy right behnd him with too many of these types of s$orrms.. Nothing would change with the GOP. We have a chance this time.

The Tea Party had a shot and the Obama gestapo came after them. The RINO's looked the other way. They will again.
The Tea Party didn't have the strategic smarts to take over the GOP when they had the chance.
At least they had a battle...

The MARXIST PARTY just laid down and surrendered..... When they were SOCIALISTS they had a fighting chance to pretend to be moderate.

Now they say the quiet part out loud. Good times....

What's the recommendation for the deadly variant coming in September? Is it going to be called "Mail-your ballot-in-or-die-instantly?"

I'm sure all the "mask wearers" will welcome their Lord and Savior God Fauci to lead them down the righteous path again to rid the world of "mean tweets..."

Good job! Be proud!
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Werewolf
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Never watched the show from start to finish and I don't recall the characters. Don't need to know characters to ID where you are in the film.

Never watched Trump's show either.
Werewolf
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The Sheeple continue failing to connect the dots. So here goes .........one more hapless time. LOL.........but there is at least a percentage point chance so we push on for now.

At the fingertips, so much info....yet, stick their heads in the sand and only pull it out to yell at - or call names -the American Patriot trying to wake them up.

https://rumble.com/v12i7yn-cov-cages-they-are-fencing-people-into-their-homes-now.html

Still don't get it? Probably will refuse to watch what is underway in China.
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Werewolf said:

Cthepack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Cthepack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
None of it is getting "lost". It's a false argument to whine to the mods to censor people and remove the posts of those you disagree with, claiming that you "can't find" the posts from the posters you agree with.

It's real easy to find/see everything posted here.

And if it really is making it that difficult for you to find it, then put the posters you disagree with on "ignore", using the "ignore" feature.

And this thread is not being "ruined" because people you disagree with happen to post in it.


I do not believe anyone is suggesting censorship. You can start a new thread and I am sure the people on this thread saying it is getting clogged up would not care.


We've already hashed this out ad nauseum.

We don't have to toe the line of Fauci, Lamestream media, and the Biden administration in order to post in this thread.

Not allowing views in this thread that go against the Establishment narrative WOULD be censorship.


Then start a thread demonstrating where the establishment is wrong. People on here are clever enough to view two different threads.
But will you submit to the nucleic acid test when it arrives here?



Did you fall for the nonsense the 1st time? Will you again when it arrives?

You can actually see many Chinese resisting the CCP efforts in this film.......without arms. They refuse to come out of their apts to test but also starve to do so.

When your totalitarian federal govt and complicit state authorities require the nucleic test as you enter the grocery, will you go without, or will you submit? My trips to NC have not shown much cleverness honestly. When you've submitted and worn masks for more than a year, how clever are you really?

Stand up for yourselves and be free men! Have we forgotten?


You do have to question whether or not these lockdowns are for Covid…. Roughly 400M in lockdown!
BBW12OG
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caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Cthepack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Cthepack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

I'm glad that you (and Davie and a few others) still post this information for us... Sucks that it gets lost in the clutter most of the time here now.
None of it is getting "lost". It's a false argument to whine to the mods to censor people and remove the posts of those you disagree with, claiming that you "can't find" the posts from the posters you agree with.

It's real easy to find/see everything posted here.

And if it really is making it that difficult for you to find it, then put the posters you disagree with on "ignore", using the "ignore" feature.

And this thread is not being "ruined" because people you disagree with happen to post in it.


I do not believe anyone is suggesting censorship. You can start a new thread and I am sure the people on this thread saying it is getting clogged up would not care.


We've already hashed this out ad nauseum.

We don't have to toe the line of Fauci, Lamestream media, and the Biden administration in order to post in this thread.

Not allowing views in this thread that go against the Establishment narrative WOULD be censorship.


Then start a thread demonstrating where the establishment is wrong. People on here are clever enough to view two different threads.
But will you submit to the nucleic acid test when it arrives here?



Did you fall for the nonsense the 1st time? Will you again when it arrives?

You can actually see many Chinese resisting the CCP efforts in this film.......without arms. They refuse to come out of their apts to test but also starve to do so.

When your totalitarian federal govt and complicit state authorities require the nucleic test as you enter the grocery, will you go without, or will you submit? My trips to NC have not shown much cleverness honestly. When you've submitted and worn masks for more than a year, how clever are you really?

Stand up for yourselves and be free men! Have we forgotten?


You do have to question whether or not these lockdowns are for Covid…. Roughly 400M in lockdown!
If it had ever been about Covid we wouldn't have the 4x jabbed VP of the USA testing positive. It was and will always be about power. They had to have something to destroy the GOP.

Well they got the power they so much wanted. It's awesome seeing them and their followers drive the bus off a cliff in real time.

Lefties can't handle being in power. They get intoxicated like a 15 year old boy with a 6 pack. The stupid runs rampant.
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Werewolf
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Pretty much all of Shanghai is multiple JABBED but they still test positive. And we still fall for this?
Mormad
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What does it matter if people still test positive? I didn't think anybody trusted the tests or the data anyway? But you trust it if it says somebody is positive after the JAB for obvious reasons? But who cares? Offering that people still test positive after vaccination with no mention of rates of infection compared to unvaccinated cohorts and no mention of disease severity comparisons between the 2 cohorts really offers no information whatsoever. The assumptions and insinuations are simply wrong. And, if anyone believed the vaccines would completely eradicate a novel virus, that's on them. Sure the messaging was bad, but most seem pretty good at shouting what they believe and don't believe when the gubmint speaks, so forgive me if I don't believe the ones shouting about the message say they all of a sudden blindly trusted the message about the virus going away.
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Great post, I would also add that China produced their own vaccine, and there is no real believable data on the effectiveness of their vaccine. Additionally, I believe they have a much lower vaccine rate in their total population as well as their older population.

So I think it's a false comparison to make between China and the US with respect to China's draconian efforts to isolate portions of their country to prevent spread vs mask mandates and the 6' rule and any other stupid thing that governments local, state and federal have done here. What China is doing now ISN'T ever coming to the US. You can thank vaccination rates and the constitution and a free press for that.
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hokiewolf said:

Great post, I would also add that China produced their own vaccine, and there is no real believable data on the effectiveness of their vaccine. Additionally, I believe they have a much lower vaccine rate in their total population as well as their older population.

So I think it's a false comparison to make between China and the US with respect to China's draconian efforts to isolate portions of their country to prevent spread vs mask mandates and the 6' rule and any other stupid thing that governments local, state and federal have done here. What China is doing now ISN'T ever coming to the US. You can thank vaccination rates and the constitution and a free press for that.
Yeah, you had me with the first part...

And then you tried to extrapolate it into something that none of us have any f'n clue about.

I appreciate your political leanings (we need all that we can get with a two party system )... but you seem to let your personal hatred of Trump overrule all those other areas where you somewhat support "common sense" type policies. And for some reason, you only hold Trump responsible for that?

That's where you just completely lose me.

I hate to break it to you... it's not going to matter if it's Trump, DeSantis or anyone else that emerges as the potential GOP nominee for 2024. They are all going to get the exact same treatment that Trump got 2016 - 2020 from our mainstream leftist media

It won't matter if the GOP has a black, woman or any other minority running either. So don't even start with that.

Would love to hear your arguments otherwise.
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He didn't even mention Trump lol. You must can't get the man out of your head
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