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TheStorm said:

But there is no requirement to be vaccinated to come across our Southern Border and then be bussed / flown to the interior of our country... gotta just love that.
The hypocrisy and double standards always expose the true agenda.

This was never about a concern for our health. If you think the genocidal Democrat communist Left cares about our health, you are INSANE. These are the same people that fanatically champion murdering tens of millions of unborn babies, and are also religiously calling for lowering worldwide human population (per the "global warming" hoax).
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I've been of the opinion since the summer of 2020, that all the lockdowns accomplish is the slowing of herd immunity acquisition. It's like lockdowns promote the extension of a pandemic. That said, there's still a lot of unanswered questions. In my mind, one of them is why a seemingly young, healthy NC Highway trooper, for example, succumbed, while other people of various ages and backgrounds had such a wildly variable experience once they contracted Covid. The morbidity of Covid makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Oldsouljer said:

I've been of the opinion since the summer of 2020, that all the lockdowns accomplish is the slowing of herd immunity acquisition. It's like lockdowns promote the extension of a pandemic. That said, there's still a lot of unanswered questions. In my mind, one of them is why a seemingly young, healthy NC Highway trooper, for example, succumbed, while other people of various ages and backgrounds had such a wildly variable experience once they contracted Covid. The morbidity of Covid makes absolutely no sense to me.


https://amp.citizen-times.com/amp/4432289002

The same reason a 15 year old healthy and active teenager died from the flu in early 2020. It's been my confusion with this all along; how they convinced so many people that death wasn't inevitable and that humans actually controlled it. We're all headed towards death from the day we're born. Modern medicine is amazing and is the reason fat and unhealthy Americans live to be 78 on average, but it's never prevented death.
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Oldsouljer said:

I've been of the opinion since the summer of 2020, that all the lockdowns accomplish is the slowing of herd immunity acquisition. It's like lockdowns promote the extension of a pandemic. That said, there's still a lot of unanswered questions. In my mind, one of them is why a seemingly young, healthy NC Highway trooper, for example, succumbed, while other people of various ages and backgrounds had such a wildly variable experience once they contracted Covid. The morbidity of Covid makes absolutely no sense to me.
Here are my basic thoughts:

1. Age matters and matters a lot. The age stratification with respect to Covid was obvious very early in the pandemic and it did not change. If you are over the age of 65, you are at higher risk for severe illness and possible death. Why? As you age, your immune system is actually less able to handle shocks to the system. Additionally, older people tend to have other health issues that put them on the edge and any significant illness can push them over the edge.

2. Seemingly healthy people are not as healthy as they appear. I remember very early in the pandemic, a child (they were 15 years old) died from Covid. What people did not know was the person had undiagnosed diabetes and it was the diabetes that played a large part in them having a bad outcome. I do believe many who died who appeared to be relatively healthy could have had undiagnosed comorbidities.

3. Comorbidities and in particular obesity, played a big part in people having very bad outcomes. You do not have to be significantly obese to have a bad outcome and many people who believe they are just a "little heavy" are actually obese and with Covid, this is not a good condition. I saw a statistic recently that showed 75% of the people who died from Covid would be classified as obese. I do believe this is a key reason why the US saw higher death rates when compared to other nations. The US has a significant obesity issue and it is something you hear very little about. In fact, when the impact of obesity on Covid death rates was raised a few months ago, the people raising the issue were attacked and activists tried to silence them. My personal view is this - being obese is not healthy and people should not be told it is okay. I think the data is clear that people who were not obese, had better outcomes than those who were obese.

4. Other comorbidities that contributed to bad outcomes were diabetes (strongly correlated with my point above on obesity), people who are immunocompromised, and people who have other health conditions that put them at risk (heart disease, cancer, etc). Along with the elderly, these are the groups we needed to focus on protecting. We wasted a huge amount of energy protecting young, healthy individuals.

5. One factor with Covid is how it stimulates your body's immune system to react. For some people, their body's immune response to Covid was so strong that it actually caused significant damage to the body. Some of the damage we saw to the cardiovascular and respiratory systems can be tied to the immune systems reaction to the virus. I liken this to someone who has allergic reactions to certain foods or chemicals. For example, I am allergic to shellfish. This is an allergy I developed over time and it finally manifested itself in my early 30's. Basically, when my body encounters a specific protein that is found in shellfish, my immune system takes action to protect me from the protein. Unfortunately, my body's attempts to protect me can actually kill me. This reaction is similar to how some people's bodies reacted to the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

So, after two years of the pandemic, my conclusion is this - lockdowns do not work and are actually bad healthcare policy. Many thought we could "buy time" until vaccines became available, but the vaccines we have are not sterilizing vaccines. They do a remarkably good job at preventing severe infection, but they will not prevent infection. For an airborne virus, it is basically impossible in any society to prevent the spread. I agree with your point about the lockdowns just delaying herd immunity.

My view is we should have done everything possible to keep the elderly and those with comorbidities as protected as possible, until we had vaccines. For healthy people, we should have kept life as normal as possible and not locked down or followed the draconian "social distancing" policies. We had lots of studies and epidemiological research that said lockdowns and social distancing are ineffective in stopping a virus. New Zealand, Australia, and China are great case studies that show those earlier studies were correct - lockdowns and social distancing measures do not work.

What does work? Vaccines and natural immunity. Ultimately, this is the only way you will ever find your way out of a pandemic. If you want to understand more on this subject and the ineffectiveness of the lockdown/social distancing policies we enacted, I would encourage you and others to read the following paper. One of the key authors of this paper is D.A. Henderson. For background, D.A. Henderson worked with the WHO and he is the person who is given primary credit for the eradication of smallpox.

Disease Mitigation Measures in the Control of Pandemic Influenza
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In case you missed it, the CDC revised their reported pediatric Covid deaths today - lowering reported deaths by 25%. So, all those news stories you might have seen that tried to claim that young people were at significant risk of death are now incorrect. The funny thing is that many people who follow this information knew the data was wrong, but "experts" kept using this data to urge school masking and other steps to "protect" healthy kids.

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Cooper not lifting the state of the emergency because it is a tool for him to do things he doesn't have the legislative authority for.

Emergency Orders shouldn't be used for a politician to 'do what they want' because they don't have legislative authority. They should have LIMITED use for exceptional circumstances. The last two years have made politicians too comfortable with abuse of power.


Also, Kinsley said that blood donation in NC show 94.3% of samples with some degree of immunity.
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I've said it several times in this thread, but I hope one day in the near future a hard look is given to the EO scenarios and the associated power. We are no longer in any kind of emergency situation by any measure. to continue to say we are is an abuse of power IMO.
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wilmwolf80 said:

I've said it several times in this thread, but I hope one day in the near future a hard look is given to the EO scenarios and the associated power. We are no longer in any kind of emergency situation by any measure. to continue to say we are is an abuse of power IMO.

Yep. What's the emergency?
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Canada lifting testing from r travellers. PM saying people are "pretty damn tired" of covid. Ya think!!!
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Canada lifting testing from r travellers. PM saying people are "pretty damn tired" of covid. Ya think!!!
This is good definitely good news. Too bad the US has not shown any indication they will do the same thing. They still require testing for all inbound passengers to the US.
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You missed a page (actually several) in your post, so I have included the missing page below, along with a link to the complete document for others to read, if they so desire. You do realize the list of pages and adverse symptoms you posted is a list of symptoms they looked for in the data and NOT a list of symptoms they actually found in the data.

This is why they determined the following in the report:

Quote:

"Review of the available data for this cumulative PM experience, confirms a favorable benefit: risk balance for BNT162b2."

Link to study containing all pages: Cumulative analysis of post-authorization adverse adverse event reports


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LOL.

Pretty important page to leave out.
Oldsouljer
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That's the most comprehensive "what could go wrong?" list I've ever seen.
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Civilized said:

LOL.

Pretty important page to leave out.
Good that some of you saw that page. Makes one comfortable in taking the 3rd and 4th boosters.
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A very important contributor. He'll continue to have a role as a resource.
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https://vaccineeffects.org/data-reveal-disturbing-trend-from-covid-jab/

What our corporate news media won't bother to tell us about.
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https://vaccineeffects.org/if-covid-vaccines-really-work-how-did-400000-mostly-jabbed-south-koreans-suddenly-test-positive-in-one-day/

I told ya so................yepper..........
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Start paying attention, you and your family's life depend on it....and turn the Lying operation mockingbird corporate media off....
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Base Rate Fallacy would like a word with the headline writer's author (Joseph Mercola). Apparently, the author of the headline you posted is unware of statistical properties and how to apply them to actual statistics or they are just trying to purposely mislead people. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he is just ignorant of statistics.

In simple terms, do not focus on raw numbers, focus on rates of death among vaccinated and unvaccinated. When you have a vast majority of a population that is vaccinated, you have to look at rates and not raw numbers, since raw numbers do not show actual effectiveness of vaccines.

Here is a link to an analysis of deaths for the UK from people who actually understand statistical analysis:

Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England: deaths occurring between 1 January and 31 December 2021

From a statistical analysis of deaths in the UK for the period of time we have had a Covid vaccine, the study reports the following:

- From July to December 2021, Covid-19 risk of death was 93.4% lower for vaccinated people who have been triple vaccinated versus unvaccinated people
- From July to December 2021, the risk of death was 81.2% lower for vaccinated people who have been double vaccinated versus unvaccinated people

The analysis also points out that you can not use these rates to determine overall vaccine effectiveness, since other factors such as age and underlying health conditions can also affect deaths.

The authors of the study make their data available for further analysis and in an effort to be transparent.

Here's a view of deaths (per 100,0000) for the UK, pulled from the Our World in Data website. You can see a drastic reduction in deaths from the time before we had vaccines and in particular, comparing last year's Winter wave to this year's Winter wave.

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You're so patient and measured in your responses, Davie. Thank you again for all the data and analysis you and Wayland have provided over the last couple of years.

What's really confusing to me about Werewolf posting this mess is that I think he's an engineer. He could understand the data, he just opts not to try.
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two completely opposite sets of information, I'll certainly agree. It's up to each of us to decide what is truth and what are the facts. I found it humorous the other day with the discussion of the CDC changing the data. We also know the DOD data is miraculously being changed too.

Personally, I think I'll stick with my innate immune system and defer on the shots. If you guys are so confident, then the local pharmacies give the booster for free and may still be giving out donuts when you get one. A 4th is now being suggested by Pfizer.

I trust those world-renowned experts that have come forward and risked their livelihoods most of all. You get to pick who you trust too.



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The British Nursing Alliance is very large group of nurses formed for the purposed of sharing truth........much like America's Frontline Doctors. I pulled this article from their telegram page.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10627293/Covids-prevalent-England-Xmas-lockdown-cards.html

The perspective I have is that the NWO/WEF/WHO elites control essentially all sources of news and entertainment. They have also infiltrated - massively - our institutions of learning. So how much real truth can be deduced from the massive disinformation we're bombarded with.

I do not waste my time trying to convince you via debate............as many simply require seeing it for themselves......whenever, or if ever, that time comes. I do try to post provocative information to get others to think outside the box. Many of you don't realize - even today -that we're in a war. Information, biological and cyber. I don't fully understand who's on who's side and it could be a 3--way war now. It's one helluva an interesting time. Its a consequential time. I tell my kids that we are going to be truly free and prosperous people in 10 years or we'll be slaves.

EDIT: the warfare you may be aware of is the wawr on our culture and our values. Ongoing for many years.
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So I still download data daily.

Hospitalizations WITH COVID are at a low it took until June last year to reach.

Finally starting to see a real decline in week over week case rate decrease. Maybe this is our plateau or floor and we finally see that bump next week.

That being said NC DHHS continues to pump out cases from January. For weeks the backlog has been bad and the majority of the cases reported today have been over a month old.



Then to compare cases from Dec/Jan to other reported cases (so long backlog Feb cases not included in backlog for this chart).



So the actual rate of case by date is much lower than reported.


If you were to take all the cases reported in March and plot the days they were actually collected. It looks like this:



On a day like today. That makes today's reported cases with about half being from January (which is a little lower than the 60%+ we have seen in recent weeks):



What it does mean, is that the 7 day average of cases by collection date is almost 70% LOWER than cases by report date. While this will never be spot on, outside of reporting during surges, we haven't seen a gap like this.


So, like I said. When you compare the current 7 day avg in cases to its previous. You can see additionally the decline in the change.



Just to zoom out on that a little


None of that means we should re-institute useless NPIs
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https://clarion.causeaction.com/2022/03/21/rafael-nadal-suffers-heart-and-breathing-problems/?msclkid=bd683410a9d911eca1b20d153082f95c

Nadal suffering heart and breathing problems. A big proponent, Nadal took all the jabs that allowed him to play in and win the Australian Open. This vaccine injury related event and others like it are being hid by the corporate news media.

Evidence of ADE when autopsies are done.

V AID estimated to kick in at 2 years to 5 years from receiving the JAB.
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Now that the courts have stopped most mandatory vaccinations, I've noticed a stream of state HHS and CDC sponsored ads still pushing that crap. I know it's not an exact parallel because flu and Covid are different things, but it still seems like they're doing the equivalent of pushing a flu shot from two years ago for whatever this years variant is. And then there's this……

https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/22/cdc-tells-new-york-times-it-hid-covid-data-for-political-reasons/
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https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2022/03/dr-robert-malone-covid-is-just-a-skirmish-we-have-a-much-bigger-problem-video/?utm_medium=ppt&utm_source=pushnotification

Robert Malone discusses mass formation psychosis, totalitarianism and NWO agenda.
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Apparently, Nadal has an injury to his pectoral muscle (on his left side) and this is the cause of the pain and breathing issues.

Here's a link to the article mentioning the injury:
Rafael Nadal 'worried' after struggling to breathe and doesn't know when he will return


For those who wonder how the pectoral muscle can affect breathing, here is an article with more detail:
Did You Know? Your Posture Affects Your Lungs and Heart
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Daviewolf83 said:

Apparently, Nadal has an injury to his pectoral muscle (on his left side) and this is the cause of the pain and breathing issues.

Here's a link to the article mentioning the injury:
Rafael Nadal 'worried' after struggling to breathe and doesn't know when he will return


For those who wonder how the pectoral muscle can affect breathing, here is an article with more detail:
Did You Know? Your Posture Affects Your Lungs and Heart


Lol
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Don't kill that guys narrative. Just ignore him and move on.
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^ If you've had your 1st booster, Pfizer's 2nd booster is coming soon. I'm sure its free.
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Daviewolf83 said:

Apparently, Nadal has an injury to his pectoral muscle (on his left side) and this is the cause of the pain and breathing issues.

Here's a link to the article mentioning the injury:
Rafael Nadal 'worried' after struggling to breathe and doesn't know when he will return


For those who wonder how the pectoral muscle can affect breathing, here is an article with more detail:
Did You Know? Your Posture Affects Your Lungs and Heart
I do truly hope that your info is correct, this guy is a firebrand competitor. I always pull for him...and certainly do in this case too.

Here's another take on it.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/rafael-nadal-suffers-heart-and-breathing-problems/
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Jenn Psaki has covid for the second time in 6 months. She ls double vaxed and boosted. If they'd just mandate a 4th shot….
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https://vaccineeffects.org/military-doctor-says-she-was-ordered-to-cover-up-wave-of-covid-vaccine-injuries-in-servicemen/

Guessing she decided to take on the DOD behemoth just-4-fun.............kinda like Dr Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone, Ryan Cole and others. "Just 4 fun man, we do it just pho fun".
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