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If this thread and the BIden Administration thread don't go hand-in-hand with this tweet, think again.

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1492413791899897856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1492413791899897856%7Ctwgr%5Ehb_1_8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2Fposts%2Flive-updates-police-forces-attack-arrest-freedom-convoy-protesters-around-the-world%2F
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Wayland said:




The "yeah, but" replies to that tweet are the definition of why we are where we are as a society.
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https://blueanon.news/johnson-johnson-quietly-shuts-down-production-of-covid-19-jab/

J&J shuts down production of JAB production?

CEO of Moderna quietly dumps $400 million in Moderna stock too?

Go figure.
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Solid.

caryking
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Glasswolf said:

TheStorm said:

Glasswolf said:


I didn't even know who he was on PP. I do know he was banned for life there by another mod on PP. I had zero to do with his banning here. I tried to get him to take things down a notch and have expressed that to numerous other posters here. One of the board owners banned him and not at my request. I have even asked to let him come back. And no you didn't. You are telling a lie.
Oh, C'MON Glass... it's ok now... nothing but just a little water under the bridge at this point, brother - and you know we still love you anyway!


Love and respect you all but everything I said Vass was the truth. Check with caryking
Glass is being honest here. BBW had more of an issue with another Mod, not Glass.

Glass, you know I'm going to always lean on you, where I can, for support with outrageous posters. I know you will do what you can and I'm not expecting you to do what you can't.

BTW, I emailed with BBW, over the weekend, and he's doing good. I still think he brought a lot of good (even with some of the bad, people didn't like) for the board. It's funny, I have an antagonist that I would like to see gone; however, I chose to do what we all should do with people they don't like...

"IGNORE THEM"
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
caryking
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Werewolf said:

https://blueanon.news/johnson-johnson-quietly-shuts-down-production-of-covid-19-jab/

J&J shuts down production of JAB production?

CEO of Moderna quietly dumps $400 million in Moderna stock too?

Go figure.
What the heck???

I have the J&J shot. Not that I'm getting anymore shots; however, what do people do that only wants the "non-mrna" shots?
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
Civilized
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caryking said:

Werewolf said:

https://blueanon.news/johnson-johnson-quietly-shuts-down-production-of-covid-19-jab/

J&J shuts down production of JAB production?

CEO of Moderna quietly dumps $400 million in Moderna stock too?

Go figure.
What the heck???

I have the J&J shot. Not that I'm getting anymore shots; however, what do people do that only wants the "non-mrna" shots?

Yep, my aunt and uncle were very vaccine-hesitant and had the mRNA concerns for months but ultimately did finally get the J&J vax last month.

They were holding out for Novavax but with that timeline continually getting pushed they eventually got J&J when Omicron started surging.

I read that the J&J production stop is temporary; that they've got millions of doses in inventory; that the plant currently making J&J will start back up in the next few months; and that other facilities have also been hired to produce the J&J vaccine, they just aren't up and running yet.


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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

https://blueanon.news/johnson-johnson-quietly-shuts-down-production-of-covid-19-jab/

J&J shuts down production of JAB production?

CEO of Moderna quietly dumps $400 million in Moderna stock too?

Go figure.
What the heck???

I have the J&J shot. Not that I'm getting anymore shots; however, what do people do that only wants the "non-mrna" shots?

Yep, my aunt and uncle were very vaccine-hesitant and had the mRNA concerns for months but ultimately did finally get the J&J vax last month.

They were holding out for Novavax but with that timeline continually getting pushed they eventually got J&J when Omicron started surging.

I read that the J&J production stop is temporary; that they've got millions of doses in inventory; that the plant currently making J&J will start back up in the next few months; and that other facilities have also been hired to produce the J&J vaccine, they just aren't up and running yet.



Civ, thanks for the update...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
Werewolf
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The everyday common man - truckers - with the gonads standing up to make a difference.
https://rumble.com/vuwiyk-freedom-convoy-dr.-roger-hopkinson-to-the-people.html
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Gotta be vaxxed to escape a war, apparently
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FlossyDFlynt said:



Gotta be vaxxed to escape a war, apparently
But not if you are in illegal alien from South or Central America (not a Cuban escaping an actual tyrannical government) invading the United States. Then the DemonRat communists roll out the red carpet for you, give you a pre-paid debit card with $2/3 grand on it, and bus or fly you to Tennessee or some other red state.

And then these same communist Democrats say we must go to war with Russia to "protect the integrity of the Ukraine border". While they open up our border to be invaded by anyone who they think will vote communist.

Per Biden, truckers from Canada need the vaxx to cross our border and come into the country, but illegal aliens can come right in no questions asked about their vaxx status.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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The communist Canadian government has now apparently invoked "Emergency Powers" to crack down on the trucker convoy protest, and is now treating the truckers and those who fund them on crowd-funding sites as "terrorists":



The vast power grabs enacted after 9/11 (Patriot Act, NDAA, domestic spying) were never intended to fight "muslim terrorists". That was just the excuse. The real intent of those power grabs (by the communist NWO powers-that-be) was to eventually establish Soviet and Chicom style communist police states -- and then crack down on right-wing Patriots and others who oppose them, domestically. The true end goal was to monitor, oppress, control, and persecute domestic dissidents. Right-wing patriots are now being labeled "terorrists" and "enemies of the State". Similar thing has happened here with the January 6th so-called "insurrection" and "attack on the Capitol".
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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GP, your persistence in providing truth is admirable even though many would never thank you and accept they were duped.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201811/why-certain-people-will-never-admit-they-were-wrong

Still be on guard for Phase 3 of 2010 Operation Lockstep.
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Good article from Vinay about the CDC.

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As an update to a post I had late last week regarding masking in schools and the flawed "study" the CDC published on their website, someone has done a really good job explaining the issues with the study. As I just commented to a WRAL Tweet this morning:

"We have reached a point where those who want to continue masking mandates in schools must provide evidence these mandates are effective in achieving the stated goal and are not causing harm. So far, they have not provided evidence of effectiveness."

I am sure the mask mandate supporters will be responding and accusing me of being an agent of the Koch family or a member of a "death cult" soon. It is their typical ad hominem response, when they can not provide any legitimate data to back their position.

You can read the full article listing the issues with the CDC study at the link below:

The CDC's Latest Study on Masks is Purposeful Misinformation
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"This is absolutely insane. You've now completely corrupted the entire point of the investigation. How are you supposed to determine whether or not mask wearing in public places made a difference if you have no idea if those who tested positive were infected because of a household case? "

This was in part my argument why I thought mask mandates would not work (one that was shouted down on this particular thread I might add), in addition to doubting the effectiveness of shirt sleeves as virus stoppers. I still believe that by in large, the majority of people who got sick with OG covid got it in their own home, or in a setting where they otherwise didn't feel like they needed to wear a mask. Even the most ardent mask wearers I know weren't wearing them in their own homes, and were prone to letting their guard down around people they trusted- family, friends, neighborhood kids, etc. Not even taking into consideration those given a false sense of security by wearing a cloth mask who could've spread it. Unfortunately, we didn't seem all that concerned about determining where folks were getting it, only counting cases.
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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/new-york-city-fires-more-than-1400-unvaccinated-workers/

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New York City mayor Eric Adams fired 1,430 city workers for refusing to be vaccinated against Covid-19, the city announced on Monday.

The fired workers who failed to meet a Friday deadline to comply with the city's vaccine mandate for municipal employees included 36 workers in the New York City Police Department, 25 associated with the city's fire department, and 914 in its department of education, according to the New York Post. The firings also affected 101 NYC Housing Authority workers and 40 Sanitation Department workers.
Weird times in America.
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Pelosi is of the mind that low unemployment is a root cause of inflation. Gotta get more unemployed if we want to control inflation.
Like I said, if you can't get hyped for the Carolina game, why are you here?
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Good to see the charts; the 7 day rolling number looks like we are down 80% from the apex of 806k cases (at 161k now).



Lowest number since 12/20/21. Hopefully will continue to drop.
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statefan91 said:

Good to see the charts; the 7 day rolling number looks like we are down 80% from the apex of 806k cases (at 161k now).



Lowest number since 12/20/21. Hopefully will continue to drop.

I mean, who is not expecting the flattening and spring bump in the coming weeks (and the panic along with that).... followed by a decline going into summer..... and then a subsequent Southern wave (although of questionable size)... rinse and repeat.

We have discovered respiratory virus seasons. /s
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PackFansXL said:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/new-york-city-fires-more-than-1400-unvaccinated-workers/

Quote:

New York City mayor Eric Adams fired 1,430 city workers for refusing to be vaccinated against Covid-19, the city announced on Monday.

The fired workers who failed to meet a Friday deadline to comply with the city's vaccine mandate for municipal employees included 36 workers in the New York City Police Department, 25 associated with the city's fire department, and 914 in its department of education, according to the New York Post. The firings also affected 101 NYC Housing Authority workers and 40 Sanitation Department workers.
Weird times in America.
Especially for a vaccine that doesn't keep you from catching the virus and had little to no effect on the last variant...
TheStorm
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Wayland said:

statefan91 said:

Good to see the charts; the 7 day rolling number looks like we are down 80% from the apex of 806k cases (at 161k now).



Lowest number since 12/20/21. Hopefully will continue to drop.

I mean, who is not expecting the flattening and spring bump in the coming weeks (and the panic along with that).... followed by a decline going into summer..... and then a subsequent Southern wave (although of questionable size)... rinse and repeat.

We have discovered respiratory virus seasons. /s
Wayland, if you had to guess do you think the next wave is going to be another new variant or another round of Omicron... also for double or nothing, what general region of the world do you think we first start seeing it?
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TheStorm said:

PackFansXL said:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/new-york-city-fires-more-than-1400-unvaccinated-workers/

Quote:

New York City mayor Eric Adams fired 1,430 city workers for refusing to be vaccinated against Covid-19, the city announced on Monday.

The fired workers who failed to meet a Friday deadline to comply with the city's vaccine mandate for municipal employees included 36 workers in the New York City Police Department, 25 associated with the city's fire department, and 914 in its department of education, according to the New York Post. The firings also affected 101 NYC Housing Authority workers and 40 Sanitation Department workers.
Weird times in America.
Especially for a vaccine that doesn't keep you from catching the virus and had little to no effect on the last variant...
Honestly, the way NYC is, I'm surprised they had 914 Teachers/Administrative staff that didn't take the vaccine. Education, in NYC, is predominately very liberal and follow the edict's of the left. Very surprising...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
Wayland
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TheStorm said:

Wayland said:

statefan91 said:

Good to see the charts; the 7 day rolling number looks like we are down 80% from the apex of 806k cases (at 161k now).



Lowest number since 12/20/21. Hopefully will continue to drop.

I mean, who is not expecting the flattening and spring bump in the coming weeks (and the panic along with that).... followed by a decline going into summer..... and then a subsequent Southern wave (although of questionable size)... rinse and repeat.

We have discovered respiratory virus seasons. /s
Wayland, if you had to guess do you think the next wave is going to be another new variant or another round of Omicron... also for double or nothing, what general region of the world do you think we first start seeing it?

<shrug> I guess it will be whatever is the dominant variant at the time or whatever is circulating. Like last spring's wave was only like 60% Alpha (and the remainder was like Gamma and Iota *or whatever, don't have the other variants at my fingertips right now).

Right now we have three main variants of Omicron circulating in the U.S. The originally identified B.1.1.529 and then BA.1.1 (which I believe is a sub of 529) and BA.2.1 (so called 'stealth') (I think there may be a BA.3 as well... but whatever).



The timing of the waves, IMO, are mostly independent of what the variant is. We were going to have a winter wave... I think Omicron made it LOOK a lot different than if it was primarily Delta all the way through, but it was going to happen.

So, if someone decided that we should call BA.1.1 - Pi and BA.2.1 Rho, does that really change the fact that they are already out there and exist?

There have been barely any other variants that have gained new traction recently. I don't think any new variant would have time to be seeded before spring.

Would have to find something new that gets seeded in time for summer waves (or maybe a unrelated virus for the next season if COVID is exhausted for now?)

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Wayland said:

TheStorm said:

Wayland said:

statefan91 said:

Good to see the charts; the 7 day rolling number looks like we are down 80% from the apex of 806k cases (at 161k now).



Lowest number since 12/20/21. Hopefully will continue to drop.

I mean, who is not expecting the flattening and spring bump in the coming weeks (and the panic along with that).... followed by a decline going into summer..... and then a subsequent Southern wave (although of questionable size)... rinse and repeat.

We have discovered respiratory virus seasons. /s
Wayland, if you had to guess do you think the next wave is going to be another new variant or another round of Omicron... also for double or nothing, what general region of the world do you think we first start seeing it?

<shrug> I guess it will be whatever is the dominant variant at the time or whatever is circulating. Like last spring's wave was only like 60% Alpha (and the remainder was like Gamma and Iota *or whatever, don't have the other variants at my fingertips right now).

Right now we have three main variants of Omicron circulating in the U.S. The originally identified B.1.1.529 and then BA.1.1 (which I believe is a sub of 529) and BA.2.1 (so called 'stealth') (I think there may be a BA.3 as well... but whatever).



The timing of the waves, IMO, are mostly independent of what the variant is. We were going to have a winter wave... I think Omicron made it LOOK a lot different than if it was primarily Delta all the way through, but it was going to happen.

So, if someone decided that we should call BA.1.1 - Pi and BA.2.1 Rho, does that really change the fact that they are already out there and exist?

There have been barely any other variants that have gained new traction recently. I don't think any new variant would have time to be seeded before spring.

Would have to find something new that gets seeded in time for summer waves (or maybe a unrelated virus for the next season if COVID is exhausted for now?)


A friendly reminder to all - Omicron variants are all still Omicron. Over the weekend, I saw some scary headlines about Deltacron, so I tweeted at one of my favorite virus experts on Twitter to ask about it. As I thought, it is nothing to get excited about, so it was just another scary headline with no substance.

Could there be another variant that arises and supplants Omicron? Yes. Could it be more infectious and more severe? Yes. Could it be more infectious and less severe? Yes. It is what viruses do. They mutate and sometimes they are more severe and sometimes they are less severe. Ultimately, they get a foothold if they can evade existing protection from our immune systems. As such, they have to evolve in a way that evades the defenses (like Omicron did) or they do not survive long.

We know the virus has already found animal hosts, so it can not be eradiated, no matter how many hamsters have to be put to death (yes - that is a thing - see Hong Kong). The virus has been found in mink and it has been found in deer. There a likely other animals where it can survive, mutate, and be transferred to humans. It will continue to mutate - this is what complex, RNA based viruses do. Some believe Covid will eventually mutate its way to something akin to the common cold and this is possible. I do think it is more likely it will go through a few more cycles of increased transmissibility and possible increased severity before it gets to the common cold level. If it gets too severe and easily kills its hosts, it will be a very short-lived variant, which is why milder variants have a better chance of survival and ultimately, why it will get to the severity level of the flu or the common cold.
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TheStorm said:

PackFansXL said:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/new-york-city-fires-more-than-1400-unvaccinated-workers/

Quote:

New York City mayor Eric Adams fired 1,430 city workers for refusing to be vaccinated against Covid-19, the city announced on Monday.

The fired workers who failed to meet a Friday deadline to comply with the city's vaccine mandate for municipal employees included 36 workers in the New York City Police Department, 25 associated with the city's fire department, and 914 in its department of education, according to the New York Post. The firings also affected 101 NYC Housing Authority workers and 40 Sanitation Department workers.
Weird times in America.
Especially for a vaccine that doesn't keep you from catching the virus and had little to no effect on the last variant...
This is also how your immune system works. As your antibodies wane, you become more susceptible to becoming infected, but the other layers of defense will keep most people from becoming severely infected. Those people who have health conditions that put them on the edge are most at risk. These are the same people who are also susceptible to a bad case of the flu.

The vaccines basically "primed the pump" of your immune system and from that standpoint, they did work. They allowed people's immune system to experience the virus without having to actually experience the virus and its nasty side effects, so the next time it sees the real virus, it has some level of defense. It is why I chose vaccination instead of waiting for my body to see the real version.

I would argue that the vaccines did do a good job, even against Omicron at keeping people from developing a severe infection. They did not prevent infection, but neither does your immune system as your antibodies wane.
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Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

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Im sure glad I didnt prime my pump. Covid was 3-4 days of meh for a reasonably healthy person. It was sure scary though now that we named it!
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Wayland
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Listening to the COVID briefing from Walensky this morning. New metrics coming on based on 'Data and Science'...

... but she is NEVER going to give up on masks. Tripling down on masks being effective.
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Wayland said:

Listening to the COVID briefing from Walensky this morning. New metrics coming on based on 'Data and Science'...

... but she is NEVER going to give up on masks. Tripling down on masks being effective.
I don't know how they continue to lie with a straight face... well, check that - I know exactly how they do it because they are only following orders.
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Mask to the left is the crucifix to Christians. It is a religion.
Wayland
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Man, these briefing are pathetic.

You have 3 defeated looking bureaucrats, claiming to follow the 'Data and Science' and yet even now, unable to pivot from their original narrative. Which we know that any time that phrase is invoked, it means they are just making **** up.

Walensky and her love of masks... and Fauci and his endless boosters.

And then... the building of the permanent testing infrastructure that will be supported even outside of the pandemic.
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