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Oldsouljer
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I suspect you're not alone. School board races in my county are getting spicy. Can't wait to vote.
Wayland
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Daviewolf83 said:

In the Wake Co. area, Johnston County just voted to make masks optional in schools, starting on Feb. 21. One school board member voted to keep masks in place. They did include a stipulation that says if 4% of the students/staff are in isolation, masks go back in place for 10 days.

In Wake County, Raleigh and Wake County voted to keep the mask mandate for at least two more weeks and after this period of time, they will discuss it again. I am going to have fun voting this November. It does not matter who is running, since I will not be voting for a single incumbent in any of the city or county elections.

I so hope they are at my polling place to campaign on election day, so I can tell them to their face that they are too stupid and corrupt to get my vote.


Cumberland schools voted to go optional as well tonight, apparently.
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Here's a graph that shows how effective mask mandates have been in Illinois at preventing hospitalizations. Shame on all those people who are urging the lifting of mask mandates. They are just "death cultists" that want people to die. (Yes, this is sarcasm).

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Forsyth County/Winston-Salem doubles down and keeps mandatory masks in school for another month. Apparently the science they are following is different from the science in Johnston and Cumberland county.

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Prepare to take a stand for your liberty and freedom

Trucker convoys spreading to midwest US cities and the border. Massive global protests of the vaccine mandates that mockingbird corporate media censors.
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Yet, another governor who is bowing down to the teacher's unions. He is removing indoor mask mandates state-wide, except for schools, where mandates will stay in effect.

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From the NY Times this morning, here is another article that argues for the removal of state-wide mask mandates for school children, particularly young children. Here are a couple of quotes from the article I found interesting and I included a link to the article below.

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"The poll found that many Democrats, especially younger Democrats, seem to be overstating their personal risk from Covid. In response, some readers argued that exaggerating individual risk is actually a good thing, because it leads to more support for Covid mitigation policies, like mask mandates and limits on public gatherings." <== refers to poll NY Times ran last week
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"The benefits of universal masking in schools remain unclear. Studies in Florida and in England, for example tend to find little effect on caseloads. One study that did find an effect has been largely debunked."
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"Other experts believe that the universal mask mandates are almost worthless. Among the reasons: Medical masks are designed for adults, not children, Michael Osterholm, a University of Minnesota epidemiologist, notes. Even masks designed for children slip off their faces. Children take off their masks to eat. Add in Omicron's intense contagiousness, and the benefits of the current mandates may be tiny."

The Mask Debate
Daviewolf83
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So much science in San Francisco and NYC. Apparently the virus works differently in these two cities and it is easily transmitted outdoors - requiring kids to mask while outside. I will point out, SF is one of the most highly vaccinated cities in the US and as such, they plan to keep their indoor mask mandate (LA county does as well) when the state-wide indoor mask mandate is lifted.

If only the rest of the US would lockdown harder and wear masks, Covid could be eradicated. These two cities are doing it alone and they must be so tired.

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Look at this ridiculous flow chart my county put out yesterday after meeting and deciding to keep our school mask mandate. Keep in mind that there is no county mask mandate of any kind. You can go anywhere in the county, minus health care facilities, and you will barely see a mask. You can even go to our school sporting events and no one has to wear a mask. But by god, we're going to stomp COVID right out by making children wear a piece of cotton over their faces. These public health officials and their absurd test and trace policies are out of control. Can you imagine being this bad at your job for this long, and people still listening to you? Much less not being fired? And the kicker of it all is they're appointed bureaucrats with no oversight and no consequences.

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That is awesome.
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Maybe this belongs in a different forum, but the hubris in this tweet and article is truly unbelievable. I am of the firm belief that media and politicians on the coasts truly does not want to understand the rest of America.


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Wayland
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hokiewolf said:

Maybe this belongs in a different forum, but the hubris in this tweet and article is truly unbelievable. I am of the firm belief that media and politicians on the coasts truly does not want to understand the rest of America.




It is comical to watch politicians pretend they actually did anything effective.

If the plan was "put a lot of disruptive theater in place that won't actually change the course of the pandemic while waiting for a seasonal wave to pass".

Mission accomplished?
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hokiewolf said:

Maybe this belongs in a different forum, but the hubris in this tweet and article is truly unbelievable. I am of the firm belief that media and politicians on the coasts truly does not want to understand the rest of America.



The gaslighting on Twitter today is....something
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Also, the line "Now, it's time to give people their lives back." is such a stunningly arrogant thing to say, I cannot believe one of his handlers hasnt deleted/rewritten the tweet
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Yet another scary headline from WRAL, meant to scare everyone into compliance. The thing is this - it is lacking context. What period of time are they measuring and what measure are they using? Is it deaths by date of death or is it deaths by report date? If it is by date of deaths (the only legitimate measure), the number is actually 43 per day - if you include deaths back to January 1, 2022.

It seems like a pretty big deal to over-report deaths by 40 a day.

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More evidence the mask mandates are working. Look how much better California has done limiting their cases, compared to those anti-maskers in Arizona. Thank goodness California had the will to institute a mandate across the entire state. Otherwise, they would have looked as bad as Arizona.

Oh wait - something is wrong. How could the mask mandate in California not produce a better result than Arizona? Must be the difference in weather or Arizona is cheating and hiding cases.

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Daviewolf83 said:

Yet another scary headline from WRAL, meant to scare everyone into compliance. The thing is this - it is lacking context. What period of time are they measuring and what measure are they using? Is it deaths by date of death or is it deaths by report date? If it is by date of deaths (the only legitimate measure), the number is actually 43 per day - if you include deaths back to January 1, 2022.

It seems like a pretty big deal to over-report deaths by 40 a day.


WRAL sucks at context. As I addressed elsewhere, NC DHHS added 3 deaths from January 2021 and 1 from December 2020 this week (amongst other backlogged deaths).

They are using the average reported deaths of the last 7 days. Personally, I think this is a combination of more efficient reporting and some long backlog. I had expected the peak in 'reporting' to be late last week or early this week.... I don't know if being off by a day counts still.... Unless there is a lot more papers behind the fax machine, this really should be the reporting peak.

The Deaths by Date peak (although it will rise due to the inevitable backlog) that is forming around the end of January should hold as the peak.

And I always hate to at the "WITH" caveat, as there are certainly many many 'FROM' but especially in this wave where you had such a high percent of the population with active cases and again there is still lagging incentives for classification (funeral expenses, etc. which I don't blame anyone for taking advantage of). But these things DO exist in the broader context of this data and we need to at least acknowledge them even if we don't know their full impacts.

But it is what it is.



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Daviewolf83 said:

More evidence the mask mandates are working. Look how much better California has done limiting their cases, compared to those anti-maskers in Arizona. Thank goodness California had the will to institute a mandate across the entire state. Otherwise, they would have looked as bad as Arizona.

Oh wait - something is wrong. How could the mask mandate in California not produce a better result than Arizona? Must be the difference in weather or Arizona is cheating and hiding cases.


The next time WRAL gets something right in regard to their reporting of covid will be the first time WRAL gets something right in regard to their reporting of covid...
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TheStorm said:

Daviewolf83 said:

More evidence the mask mandates are working. Look how much better California has done limiting their cases, compared to those anti-maskers in Arizona. Thank goodness California had the will to institute a mandate across the entire state. Otherwise, they would have looked as bad as Arizona.

Oh wait - something is wrong. How could the mask mandate in California not produce a better result than Arizona? Must be the difference in weather or Arizona is cheating and hiding cases.


The next time WRAL gets something right in regard to their reporting of covid will be the first time WRAL gets something right in regard to their reporting of covid...
I know it is the wrong side of the state, but this is one of my favorite charts lately.

I keep the data for the top 7 most populated counties on a separate tab from these other 7 that I was charting, but the other day noticed the the **** disturbers in Union's curve looked a little similar to their neighbors.



Look at all the benefits of mask mandates in Mecklenburg!!
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/new-zealand-joins-canada-finland-convoy-blocks-parliament-demands-end-vaccine-mandates/
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Prof. Dr. Luc Montagnier is a Nobel Prize Winner in Medicine who discovered AIDS said in public 2020 that the gene injection is 'Creating Variants'. He said that epidemiologists know but are "silent" about the phenomenon, known as "Antibody-Dependent Enhancement". He also warned that CONvid vaqs can lead to Neurodegenerative Diseases.




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For those of you who had it, did you ever get your energy back?
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Mountainman97 said:

For those of you who had it, did you ever get your energy back?
Yes. After just a few days. But I've kept a cough for 4 weeks now.
My wife took longer to get her energy back...a week or so I'd guess.
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Wayland said:

TheStorm said:

Daviewolf83 said:

More evidence the mask mandates are working. Look how much better California has done limiting their cases, compared to those anti-maskers in Arizona. Thank goodness California had the will to institute a mandate across the entire state. Otherwise, they would have looked as bad as Arizona.

Oh wait - something is wrong. How could the mask mandate in California not produce a better result than Arizona? Must be the difference in weather or Arizona is cheating and hiding cases.


The next time WRAL gets something right in regard to their reporting of covid will be the first time WRAL gets something right in regard to their reporting of covid...
I know it is the wrong side of the state, but this is one of my favorite charts lately.

I keep the data for the top 7 most populated counties on a separate tab from these other 7 that I was charting, but the other day noticed the the **** disturbers in Union's curve looked a little similar to their neighbors.



Look at all the benefits of mask mandates in Mecklenburg!!
That and the CA/AZ one are very interesting.
I didn't see anythign like that on ABC news tonight.
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Mountainman97 said:

For those of you who had it, did you ever get your energy back?
Tic. Toc. Tic. Toc. Tic. Toc. ?!?
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NIH -> ABC Science Collaborative. Results bought and paid for.
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Wayland said:



NIH -> ABC Science Collaborative. Results bought and paid for.


I'm not sure it CAN be overstated the damage to the trust in the medical community, medical associations, and "science" this pandemic has had. Perhaps it has always been this way. "Science", "studies", and "professional medical opinion" may have always been bought and paid for. Maybe our eyes are just now being opened to it. Regardless , it's quite unfortunate.
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https://www.npr.org/2019/03/25/706604033/duke-whistleblower-gets-more-than-33-million-in-research-fraud-settlement

Not too long ago

To be fair, i do feel the majority of us in the community are doing our very best to use experience and judgement to understand the disease and its management options to offer the best guidance and care to our patients that we can. Those who care for you and your community are typically less influenced by policy, administrations (govt or hospital), and outside pressures than some think. At least that's what I've perceived here throughout this thing.
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Mormad said:

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/25/706604033/duke-whistleblower-gets-more-than-33-million-in-research-fraud-settlement

Not too long ago

To be fair, i do feel the majority of us in the community are doing our very best to use experience and judgement to understand the disease and its management options to offer the best guidance and care to our patients that we can. Those who care for you and your community are typically less influenced by policy, administrations (govt or hospital), and outside pressures than some think. At least that's what I've perceived here throughout this thing.

I really don't consider doctors 'on the ground' as being in the same community with the grifters in academia (like the ABC Science Collab which has been a farce since the start).
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Mormad said:

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/25/706604033/duke-whistleblower-gets-more-than-33-million-in-research-fraud-settlement

Not too long ago

To be fair, i do feel the majority of us in the community are doing our very best to use experience and judgement to understand the disease and its management options to offer the best guidance and care to our patients that we can. Those who care for you and your community are typically less influenced by policy, administrations (govt or hospital), and outside pressures than some think. At least that's what I've perceived here throughout this thing.
Yikes. What a load of money. Guess it's been happening.

Agreed with your second point. Wish they'd make a little more noise though to offset those that make it on the news networks every night. Understand why they don't though. Look at what is being done to a guy that has a podcast, likes to smoke weed, and talk to people that interest him.
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I have felt for some time that it is somewhat unseemly for Big Pharma to be advertising their expensive new drugs to the general populace. Especially with the admonishment to "let your doctor know" of all the drugs are taking, as if your doctor isn't the prescribing physician. Otherwise they could be encouraging doctor shopping in order to get the latest and greatest drug.
Like I said, if you can't get hyped for the Carolina game, why are you here?
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bigeric said:

I have felt for some time that it is somewhat unseemly for Big Pharma to be advertising their expensive new drugs to the general populace. Especially with the admonishment to "let your doctor know" of all the drugs are taking, as if your doctor isn't the prescribing physician. Otherwise they could be encouraging doctor shopping in order to get the latest and greatest drug.
The "ask your doctor if X is right for you" ads bother me as well. If I thought I had to come up with the correct drug for myself, I think I'd be "doctor shopping" to find a more competent one.

I do think "let your doctor know" is a good recommendation, though, although it should be doctors, plural. I have two oncologists, primary care physician, and an orthopedic doctor. They would all need to know what the others might prescribe. It would not be so good if one oncologist prescribed a pain medication and then my orthopedic surgeon prescribed a different one, not knowing about the first! (Just to clarify, I do not take any pain medications.) I think most of that is handled through the electronic records now, though.
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