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https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

Article published March 17, 2020, A FIASCO IN THE MAKING, written by Standford Professor John P.A. Ioannidis.....ignored and dismissed.
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Not only are there huge financial incentives from the Feds for hospitals to label a death a "covid death", but there are financial incentives (potentially hush money) for the families to label a death a "covid death", as they can apply to FEMA to get money to pay for funeral costs.

https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210324/fema-help-pay-funeral-costs-covid-19-related-deaths




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Humans are now hackable

COVID fear provides an opportunity to JAB the entire population of the globe for multiple benefits. It takes time and money to figure out a scheme like this........a lot of money......trillions can do it, control govts, control media and control a virus with a so-called vaxx.
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https://rumble.com/vti1cl-dr.-tom-cowan-confirms-that-virologists-have-never-been-able-to-see-the-con.html#:~:text=Dr.%20Tom%20Cowan%20confirms%20that%20Virologists%20have%20never,Operation%20Freedom%20Published%20January%2028%2C%202022%2042%20Views

The virus has never been isolated. It's so small that even 1,000 samples would not produce enough to see it? Ya don't say...........

Think about it.........we might call it the Multi-Purpose China Virus.
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10:37a, 1/30/22
One-Third of All U.S. Covid-19 Cases Occurred Since Early December

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An astonishing statistic that demonstrates how much more contagious the Omicron variant is, compared to previous versions of SARS-CoV-2: One-third of all Covid-19 cases in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic have occurred in the past two months.

And just as the Omicron wave increased quickly, it is decreasing quickly. The seven-day moving average of new cases in the U.S. leaped from 108,501 on December 3 to 813,613 on January 13. As of yesterday, that average declined to 544,583. We've probably got a few more weeks before we get to those pre-Omicron wave numbers, but the caseload numbers are moving in the right direction.
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In reply to PackFansXL • 11:14a, 1/30/22
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One-Third of All U.S. Covid-19 Cases Occurred Since Early December

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An astonishing statistic that demonstrates how much more contagious the Omicron variant is, compared to previous versions of SARS-CoV-2: One-third of all Covid-19 cases in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic have occurred in the past two months.

And just as the Omicron wave increased quickly, it is decreasing quickly. The seven-day moving average of new cases in the U.S. leaped from 108,501 on December 3 to 813,613 on January 13. As of yesterday, that average declined to 544,583. We've probably got a few more weeks before we get to those pre-Omicron wave numbers, but the caseload numbers are moving in the right direction.


As they try. This is 'cases identifying through centralized testing' not cases.

Beacuase the US doesn't actually care about real data or population sampling, we don't know what the REAL number is. The publicly reported Omicron cases are a heavy undercount.
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Fully vaxxed 20 year old girl gets myocarditis and can't get proper circulation to her legs (blood clots?), and is going to have to have both of her legs amputated.

Of course the doctors and the Lamestream media say that she got covid and "covid" caused this. Suuuuurre.

No discussion at all in these reports if the vaxx itself could be the cause.

https://vidmax.com/video/210452-beautiful-fully-vaxxed-20yr-old-gets-covid-may-have-both-leg-s-amputated

Another local TV report, interviewing her father:
https://www.12newsnow.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/st-petersburg-woman-fights-back-against-covid-19-gofundme/67-f59b58c9-eb04-4fbd-b845-b49053bc8779


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11:57a, 1/30/22
https://www.micdroppolitics.com/articles/massive-145-country-study-shows-sharp-increase-transmission-death-introduction-covid-vaccines

Massive upticks in deaths .......further evidence.

What's underway will dwarf what the Nazis did in WW2.
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More RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA

CBC News, a Canadian state-sponsored media outlet, baselessly claimed that RUSSIA is the criminal mastermind behind the massive truckers for freedom convoy.

CBC host Nil Koksal made the wild allegations on Friday when speaking with Canada's Minister of Public Safety Marco Mendicino.

Despite no evidence of Russia's involvement in the grassroots protest, Koksal claimed there "is [a] concern" that the Russians are running a nefarious secret operation to undermine Canada. Possibly, she says, because of the country's support of Ukraine.

Koksal asked Mendicino outright about her concerns, implying that Russia may have even instigated the whole thing from the beginning.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/canada-state-media-suggests-russia-behind-truckers-freedom-convoy-yes-really-video/
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 3:11p, 1/30/22
I so hate this. I can see no good reason why someone that age needed a vaxx. Compounded with any drivel that Covid is to blame after she was fully vaxxed, insults even the intelligence of morons.
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In reply to Wayland • 4:45p, 1/30/22
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PackFansXL said:
One-Third of All U.S. Covid-19 Cases Occurred Since Early December

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An astonishing statistic that demonstrates how much more contagious the Omicron variant is, compared to previous versions of SARS-CoV-2: One-third of all Covid-19 cases in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic have occurred in the past two months.

And just as the Omicron wave increased quickly, it is decreasing quickly. The seven-day moving average of new cases in the U.S. leaped from 108,501 on December 3 to 813,613 on January 13. As of yesterday, that average declined to 544,583. We've probably got a few more weeks before we get to those pre-Omicron wave numbers, but the caseload numbers are moving in the right direction.
As they try. This is 'cases identifying through centralized testing' not cases.

Because the US doesn't actually care about real data or population sampling, we don't know what the REAL number is. The publicly reported Omicron cases are a heavy undercount.
Agreed, but even with the undercount, it is surprising to learn that stat. The author mentioned that in his short piece as well. BTW, I don't blame you for missing that though because I don't personally have time to read more than probably 10% of the links other posters provide. I would imagine the majority of folks who take the tests at home don't report their results to authorities. Wayland, would you guess maybe 50% of all cases have occurred during this two month window? I could see it being that high when I think about someone getting that test result at home. Why do we need to tell our doctor this news?
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According to Worldometers, as of yesterday, the U.S. has 75.2 million Covid-19 cases since the start of the pandemic. (These numbers are undercounts, because not everyone who tests positive with an at-home test reports it to their doctor or public health authorities.) The country hit 50 million cases on December 3, 2020 meaning more than 25 million cases have occurred since that date.
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Wayland said:
PackFansXL said:
One-Third of All U.S. Covid-19 Cases Occurred Since Early December

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An astonishing statistic that demonstrates how much more contagious the Omicron variant is, compared to previous versions of SARS-CoV-2: One-third of all Covid-19 cases in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic have occurred in the past two months.

And just as the Omicron wave increased quickly, it is decreasing quickly. The seven-day moving average of new cases in the U.S. leaped from 108,501 on December 3 to 813,613 on January 13. As of yesterday, that average declined to 544,583. We've probably got a few more weeks before we get to those pre-Omicron wave numbers, but the caseload numbers are moving in the right direction.
As they try. This is 'cases identifying through centralized testing' not cases.

Because the US doesn't actually care about real data or population sampling, we don't know what the REAL number is. The publicly reported Omicron cases are a heavy undercount.
Agreed, but even with the undercount, it is surprising to learn that stat. The author mentioned that in his short piece as well. BTW, I don't blame you for missing that though because I don't personally have time to read more than probably 10% of the links other posters provide. I would imagine the majority of folks who take the tests at home don't report their results to authorities. Wayland, would you guess maybe 50% of all cases have occurred during this two month window? I could see it being that high when I think about someone getting that test result at home. Why do we need to tell our doctor this news?
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According to Worldometers, as of yesterday, the U.S. has 75.2 million Covid-19 cases since the start of the pandemic. (These numbers are undercounts, because not everyone who tests positive with an at-home test reports it to their doctor or public health authorities.) The country hit 50 million cases on December 3, 2020 meaning more than 25 million cases have occurred since that date.
I had meant to give the author credit the "As they try" apparently is get borked on mobile. Was supposed to call acknowledging at least they mention the undercount.

I can't fathom the numbers anymore. I mean, in Wake 50% of the identified cases have actually come in the last 2 months. But I know a ton of people who have tested positive on antigen due to exposure with symptons OR one family member actually gets the 'official' PCR and the rest of the family takes quick tests which are never registered.

10% of all of Wake County actually tested positive with an official testing site in the last 2 months.... what is the real number? Basically everyone. HA
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Not only are there huge financial incentives from the Feds for hospitals to label a death a "covid death", but there are financial incentives (potentially hush money) for the families to label a death a "covid death", as they can apply to FEMA to get money to pay for funeral costs.

https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210324/fema-help-pay-funeral-costs-covid-19-related-deaths

eg, from the State of Massachusetts site:

https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210324/fema-help-pay-funeral-costs-covid-19-related-deaths


I was taken back by the funeral payment. My sister's M-I-L died in November and covid pneumonia was listed as a contributory cause of her death. The woman was 87 and had heart disease and renal issues for years. They were listed as primary causes of her death, then covid pneumonia.

The woman's funeral cost a little over $8,000.00, and one of the kids wrote a check to pay for it when they made the arrangements. The funeral director told them about this funeral reimbursement thing, so my sister went to the fema website, got the paperwork, and the one that paid sent a death certificate, copy of the paid bill and the fema paperwork in. On Friday, they got a check from the government for the full amount of the funeral.

My questions to my sister were: 1. Will they somehow end up having to pay taxes back on that money? And, 2: When do they expect these reimbursement funds to either run out or suddenly stop altogether?

She is going to call the number they have on Monday and ask. I'm interested to hear what someone from fema will tell them. This is one of the damndest things I've ever heard of. Getting paid to die. Who knew?
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In reply to Bell Tower Grey • 6:35p, 1/30/22
Bell Tower Grey said:
GuerrillaPack said:
Not only are there huge financial incentives from the Feds for hospitals to label a death a "covid death", but there are financial incentives (potentially hush money) for the families to label a death a "covid death", as they can apply to FEMA to get money to pay for funeral costs.

https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210324/fema-help-pay-funeral-costs-covid-19-related-deaths

eg, from the State of Massachusetts site:

https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210324/fema-help-pay-funeral-costs-covid-19-related-deaths


I was taken back by the funeral payment. My sister's M-I-L died in November and covid pneumonia was listed as a contributory cause of her death. The woman was 87 and had heart disease and renal issues for years. They were listed as primary causes of her death, then covid pneumonia.

The woman's funeral cost a little over $8,000.00, and one of the kids wrote a check to pay for it when they made the arrangements. The funeral director told them about this funeral reimbursement thing, so my sister went to the fema website, got the paperwork, and the one that paid sent a death certificate, copy of the paid bill and the fema paperwork in. On Friday, they got a check from the government for the full amount of the funeral.

My questions to my sister were: 1. Will they somehow end up having to pay taxes back on that money? And, 2: When do they expect these reimbursement funds to either run out or suddenly stop altogether?

She is going to call the number they have on Monday and ask. I'm interested to hear what someone from fema will tell them. This is one of the damndest things I've ever heard of. Getting paid to die. Who knew?
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In reply to Wayland • 7:32p, 1/30/22
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PackFansXL said:
Wayland said:
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One-Third of All U.S. Covid-19 Cases Occurred Since Early December

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An astonishing statistic that demonstrates how much more contagious the Omicron variant is, compared to previous versions of SARS-CoV-2: One-third of all Covid-19 cases in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic have occurred in the past two months.

And just as the Omicron wave increased quickly, it is decreasing quickly. The seven-day moving average of new cases in the U.S. leaped from 108,501 on December 3 to 813,613 on January 13. As of yesterday, that average declined to 544,583. We've probably got a few more weeks before we get to those pre-Omicron wave numbers, but the caseload numbers are moving in the right direction.
As they try. This is 'cases identifying through centralized testing' not cases.

Because the US doesn't actually care about real data or population sampling, we don't know what the REAL number is. The publicly reported Omicron cases are a heavy undercount.
Agreed, but even with the undercount, it is surprising to learn that stat. The author mentioned that in his short piece as well. BTW, I don't blame you for missing that though because I don't personally have time to read more than probably 10% of the links other posters provide. I would imagine the majority of folks who take the tests at home don't report their results to authorities. Wayland, would you guess maybe 50% of all cases have occurred during this two month window? I could see it being that high when I think about someone getting that test result at home. Why do we need to tell our doctor this news?
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According to Worldometers, as of yesterday, the U.S. has 75.2 million Covid-19 cases since the start of the pandemic. (These numbers are undercounts, because not everyone who tests positive with an at-home test reports it to their doctor or public health authorities.) The country hit 50 million cases on December 3, 2020 meaning more than 25 million cases have occurred since that date.
I had meant to give the author credit the "As they try" apparently is get borked on mobile. Was supposed to call acknowledging at least they mention the undercount.

I can't fathom the numbers anymore. I mean, in Wake 50% of the identified cases have actually come in the last 2 months. But I know a ton of people who have tested positive on antigen due to exposure with symptons OR one family member actually gets the 'official' PCR and the rest of the family takes quick tests which are never registered.

10% of all of Wake County actually tested positive with an official testing site in the last 2 months.... what is the real number? Basically everyone. HA
Everyone except me and my wife :-)

Neither of us have boosters and we really do not take any special precautions. I have been working from home since March '20, but she has never worked from home. She has been going into her office the entire pandemic. In Raleigh, we do wear a mask to enter restaurants, but they come off as soon as we sit down and we do not put them on to exit. We eat out a lot in Wake Forest, since they do not have a mask mandate. Just this weekend, we ate in three restaurants in Raleigh, Winston-Salem, and Greensboro. I did not wear a mask in the Raleigh or W-S restaurants and for the Greensboro one, I just wore it to the table. Neither of us have had anything remotely close to a Covid symptom this entire time.

I have been photographing basketball games, but I am required to wear a mask from the time I enter the building until I leave the building - or I lose my media credentials. It is just an old surgical style mask that I have been wearing for months. I have attended packed Hurricanes hockey games and last Spring, I went to two games and never wore a mask.

I guess we have just been lucky to not have become infected, but who knows at this point. My office is not opening back up to employees until the mask mandate is lifted in Morrisville. If Morrisville continues to follow the current CDC guidelines for masking, this is unlikely to happen, before I retire this Summer. I belong to a gym, but I have no plans to return there to workout while they require masking. It is not worth the aggravation..

My son is fully vaccinated and boosted (as is his entire university) and just this week, his school decided they had to start wearing masks again for all indoor workouts, including weightlifting sessions. Of course, this is coming from the people who run the school, since they have this stupid idea that they cannot allow fully vaccinated and boosted students and faculty to become infected. People have absolutely lost their minds and there are NO off-ramps for the zero-Covid and long-Covid zealots.
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Wayland said:
PackFansXL said:
Wayland said:
PackFansXL said:
One-Third of All U.S. Covid-19 Cases Occurred Since Early December

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An astonishing statistic that demonstrates how much more contagious the Omicron variant is, compared to previous versions of SARS-CoV-2: One-third of all Covid-19 cases in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic have occurred in the past two months.

And just as the Omicron wave increased quickly, it is decreasing quickly. The seven-day moving average of new cases in the U.S. leaped from 108,501 on December 3 to 813,613 on January 13. As of yesterday, that average declined to 544,583. We've probably got a few more weeks before we get to those pre-Omicron wave numbers, but the caseload numbers are moving in the right direction.
As they try. This is 'cases identifying through centralized testing' not cases.

Because the US doesn't actually care about real data or population sampling, we don't know what the REAL number is. The publicly reported Omicron cases are a heavy undercount.
Agreed, but even with the undercount, it is surprising to learn that stat. The author mentioned that in his short piece as well. BTW, I don't blame you for missing that though because I don't personally have time to read more than probably 10% of the links other posters provide. I would imagine the majority of folks who take the tests at home don't report their results to authorities. Wayland, would you guess maybe 50% of all cases have occurred during this two month window? I could see it being that high when I think about someone getting that test result at home. Why do we need to tell our doctor this news?
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According to Worldometers, as of yesterday, the U.S. has 75.2 million Covid-19 cases since the start of the pandemic. (These numbers are undercounts, because not everyone who tests positive with an at-home test reports it to their doctor or public health authorities.) The country hit 50 million cases on December 3, 2020 meaning more than 25 million cases have occurred since that date.
I had meant to give the author credit the "As they try" apparently is get borked on mobile. Was supposed to call acknowledging at least they mention the undercount.

I can't fathom the numbers anymore. I mean, in Wake 50% of the identified cases have actually come in the last 2 months. But I know a ton of people who have tested positive on antigen due to exposure with symptons OR one family member actually gets the 'official' PCR and the rest of the family takes quick tests which are never registered.

10% of all of Wake County actually tested positive with an official testing site in the last 2 months.... what is the real number? Basically everyone. HA
Everyone except me and my wife :-)

Neither of us have boosters and we really do not take any special precautions. I have been working from home since March '20, but she has never worked from home. She has been going into her office the entire pandemic. In Raleigh, we do wear a mask to enter restaurants, but they come off as soon as we sit down and we do not put them on to exit. We eat out a lot in Wake Forest, since they do not have a mask mandate. Just this weekend, we ate in three restaurants in Raleigh, Winston-Salem, and Greensboro. I did not wear a mask in the Raleigh or W-S restaurants and for the Greensboro one, I just wore it to the table. Neither of us have had anything remotely close to a Covid symptom this entire time.

I have been photographing basketball games, but I am required to wear a mask from the time I enter the building until I leave the building - or I lose my media credentials. It is just an old surgical style mask that I have been wearing for months. I have attended packed Hurricanes hockey games and last Spring, I went to two games and never wore a mask.

I guess we have just been lucky to not have become infected, but who knows at this point. My office is not opening back up to employees until the mask mandate is lifted in Morrisville. If Morrisville continues to follow the current CDC guidelines for masking, this is unlikely to happen, before I retire this Summer. I belong to a gym, but I have no plans to return there to workout while they require masking. It is not worth the aggravation..

My son is fully vaccinated and boosted (as is his entire university) and just this week, his school decided they had to start wearing masks again for all indoor workouts, including weightlifting sessions. Of course, this is coming from the people who run the school, since they have this stupid idea that they cannot allow fully vaccinated and boosted students and faculty to become infected. People have absolutely lost their minds and there are NO off-ramps for the zero-Covid and long-Covid zealots.


As I mentioned previously, I lived with my wife who caught symptomatic COVID (less than 4 months post dose 2 Moderna) during the peak of Delta. Spent that first day she was symptomatic in a 100 sq ft office with her before she tested positive and other that a few nights in different rooms, didn't go to great isolation lengths.

When my son caught COVID this January (2 months post dose 2 of Pfizer), we didn't isolate him. Only tested because was slighty stuffy and had a more than casual positive contact. He was free to go about the house as normal and hang out with us. We have moved on from worry... Other than the bureaucratic nonsense.

Me and my ****ty JnJ somehow made it through all that without getting or testing positve for COVID. If I get it in the wild, so be it... Going to happen at some point... If it hasn't already. But if rolling the dice with 2 COVID positive people in 2 different waves in the house and not getting it.

As I have mentioned before, I suspect the 48 hour fever I ran after my JnJ may have meant my late Feb/Early March respiiratory thing was C19.
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9:57p, 1/30/22
It's unfortunate the people that put science signs in their yards and cried about people politicizing the virus politicized the virus.

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It's unfortunate the people that put science signs in their yards and cried about people politicizing the virus politicized the virus.



Prasad has been on fire lately. Glad to see he joined Urgency for Normal.

I am still mad it took so long for this movement. It was obvious we were failing kids by summer of 2020.
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Daviewolf83 said:
Wayland said:
PackFansXL said:
Wayland said:
PackFansXL said:
One-Third of All U.S. Covid-19 Cases Occurred Since Early December

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An astonishing statistic that demonstrates how much more contagious the Omicron variant is, compared to previous versions of SARS-CoV-2: One-third of all Covid-19 cases in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic have occurred in the past two months.

And just as the Omicron wave increased quickly, it is decreasing quickly. The seven-day moving average of new cases in the U.S. leaped from 108,501 on December 3 to 813,613 on January 13. As of yesterday, that average declined to 544,583. We've probably got a few more weeks before we get to those pre-Omicron wave numbers, but the caseload numbers are moving in the right direction.
As they try. This is 'cases identifying through centralized testing' not cases.

Because the US doesn't actually care about real data or population sampling, we don't know what the REAL number is. The publicly reported Omicron cases are a heavy undercount.
Agreed, but even with the undercount, it is surprising to learn that stat. The author mentioned that in his short piece as well. BTW, I don't blame you for missing that though because I don't personally have time to read more than probably 10% of the links other posters provide. I would imagine the majority of folks who take the tests at home don't report their results to authorities. Wayland, would you guess maybe 50% of all cases have occurred during this two month window? I could see it being that high when I think about someone getting that test result at home. Why do we need to tell our doctor this news?
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According to Worldometers, as of yesterday, the U.S. has 75.2 million Covid-19 cases since the start of the pandemic. (These numbers are undercounts, because not everyone who tests positive with an at-home test reports it to their doctor or public health authorities.) The country hit 50 million cases on December 3, 2020 meaning more than 25 million cases have occurred since that date.
I had meant to give the author credit the "As they try" apparently is get borked on mobile. Was supposed to call acknowledging at least they mention the undercount.

I can't fathom the numbers anymore. I mean, in Wake 50% of the identified cases have actually come in the last 2 months. But I know a ton of people who have tested positive on antigen due to exposure with symptons OR one family member actually gets the 'official' PCR and the rest of the family takes quick tests which are never registered.

10% of all of Wake County actually tested positive with an official testing site in the last 2 months.... what is the real number? Basically everyone. HA
Everyone except me and my wife :-)

Neither of us have boosters and we really do not take any special precautions. I have been working from home since March '20, but she has never worked from home. She has been going into her office the entire pandemic. In Raleigh, we do wear a mask to enter restaurants, but they come off as soon as we sit down and we do not put them on to exit. We eat out a lot in Wake Forest, since they do not have a mask mandate. Just this weekend, we ate in three restaurants in Raleigh, Winston-Salem, and Greensboro. I did not wear a mask in the Raleigh or W-S restaurants and for the Greensboro one, I just wore it to the table. Neither of us have had anything remotely close to a Covid symptom this entire time.

I have been photographing basketball games, but I am required to wear a mask from the time I enter the building until I leave the building - or I lose my media credentials. It is just an old surgical style mask that I have been wearing for months. I have attended packed Hurricanes hockey games and last Spring, I went to two games and never wore a mask.

I guess we have just been lucky to not have become infected, but who knows at this point. My office is not opening back up to employees until the mask mandate is lifted in Morrisville. If Morrisville continues to follow the current CDC guidelines for masking, this is unlikely to happen, before I retire this Summer. I belong to a gym, but I have no plans to return there to workout while they require masking. It is not worth the aggravation..

My son is fully vaccinated and boosted (as is his entire university) and just this week, his school decided they had to start wearing masks again for all indoor workouts, including weightlifting sessions. Of course, this is coming from the people who run the school, since they have this stupid idea that they cannot allow fully vaccinated and boosted students and faculty to become infected. People have absolutely lost their minds and there are NO off-ramps for the zero-Covid and long-Covid zealots.


As I mentioned previously, I lived with my wife who caught symptomatic COVID (less than 4 months post dose 2 Moderna) during the peak of Delta. Spent that first day she was symptomatic in a 100 sq ft office with her before she tested positive and other that a few nights in different rooms, didn't go to great isolation lengths.

When my son caught COVID this January (2 months post dose 2 of Pfizer), we didn't isolate him. Only tested because was slighty stuffy and had a more than casual positive contact. He was free to go about the house as normal and hang out with us. We have moved on from worry... Other than the bureaucratic nonsense.

Me and my ****ty JnJ somehow made it through all that without getting or testing positve for COVID. If I get it in the wild, so be it... Going to happen at some point... If it hasn't already. But if rolling the dice with 2 COVID positive people in 2 different waves in the house and not getting it.

As I have mentioned before, I suspect the 48 hour fever I ran after my JnJ may have meant my late Feb/Early March respiiratory thing was C19.
I also have just the one dose of J&J. I never ran a fever or had a sore arm after the injection. I have traveled around the country in the past year. I have flown on airplanes and traveled to different states by car. I have attended multiple events, both indoors and outdoors and for all of the outdoor events this year, I never wore a mask. I have traveled on subways and buses in Boston. I have stayed in multiple hotels. Other than being one dose vaccinated, working from home, and wearing a mask for my photography work, I have not done anything else to keep from becoming infected.
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It's unfortunate the people that put science signs in their yards and cried about people politicizing the virus politicized the virus.



Prasad has been on fire lately. Glad to see he joined Urgency for Normal.

I am still mad it took so long for this movement. It was obvious we were failing kids by summer of 2020.
I think those doctors kept expecting the CDC and governments to pivot and they finally gave up waiting for the pivot. They are being attacked daily by the zero-Covid and long-Covid zealots. They are being called Eugenicists. They are being accused of wanting children to die. They are being threatened daily online by other doctors - many of whom have a vested interest in keeping the panic going.

Just like any tragedy, there are people who have made a business of Covid and are seizing on the opportunity to advance their careers. It the states of emergency go away, they lose power, influence, and money. They will not willingly let go of the power they have obtained.

The dam finally broke when Virginia elected a new governor. I firmly believe his election and subsequent orders to remove vaccine and mask mandates has finally given people the ability to start speaking out. You are starting to see the tide turn in some of the MSM, particularly as it involves masking in schools. The lack of off-ramps to school masking has mobilized parents and it is turning the tide against the Democrats and others in power. There is an election coming up this year and they are worried. Unfortunately, they are now butting up against the zero-Covid and long-Covid zealots (I view these as the same thing, but they argue from different points). We have parents getting educated on the data and they are starting to follow the right people and not trusting the government and the grifters who want to keep the panic going.

History will show that the people who called for the endless masking of children are EVIL. They do not deserve our sympathy or respect. They are EVIL. Anyone who supports the continued masking of kids in school are EVIL. Anyone who refuses to allow kids to visit a museum if they are unvaccinated is EVIL. Anyone who does not allow an unvaccinated child to eat in a restaurant is EVIL. The people who would not let kids talk during lunch in school are EVIL. The people who forced kids to eat outside in the cold, sitting 6 feet apart (yes this is still happening) are EVIL. The people who separated kids in school based on vaccination status are EVIL. I have ZERO respect for anyone who supports these policies. We have data on the risk to kids and people who chose to ignore the data are EVIL. The masking of kids should end NOW. The damage we have done to young children in this country is absolutely disgusting.
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Full news conference: River Oaks doctor suspended from Houston Methodist over views on COVID-19 ... - YouTube

Patriot medical doctor takes stand and sues Houston Medical....hear her truth.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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Meanwhile our government pushes on sending masks and tests to everyone.
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Posted without comment, since the graph speaks for itself.

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I am not so certain about Novavax filing today. They have not issued a recent press release and Dr. Gandhi is referring back to a statement they made on 12/31. I do wish they would get their ducks in a row and get the application filed, but they appear to be having some issues getting to the finish line in the US. It has been approved by the EU.

EDIT: I just saw Novavax did file today for EAU. Hopefully the approval process goes well. I am interested in seeing data for Omicron, if it exists.
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Meanwhile our government pushes on sending masks and tests to everyone.
That's because BoJo, while dictatorially inclined, is sane and realizes what's coming down the pike, politically speaking. No such sanity this side of the pond, and that goes double for Canada.
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Didn't UK lock down much more aggressively than the US?
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Dems are going to have the pandemic ripped from their hands kicking and screaming.
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Didn't UK lock down much more aggressively than the US?
Not denying that, just saying that the political chickens are coming home to roost for BoJo and he knows it, which is why with Labour's polling steadily climbing, he's been forced to act like the pandemic is over.
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Then wouldn't it seem that the Democrats would be quickly moving to an endemic approach because COVID fatigue has been present for a while and now that Omicron is going down it's really going to ramp up? I know everyone on here says it's all about control and that's what the Democrats want, but it seems like continuing the fallacy of being able to control COVID will just ruin them at the ballot box.
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Didn't UK lock down much more aggressively than the US?
They required masking on public transportation and indoors. They did not limit large group events. They did encourage people to work from home if it was possible, but did not force them to do so. They did require school kids to mask briefly, but this requirement has been lifted and they do not mask kids in school. In speaking with a co-worker recently that lives in southwest England, he said restrictions had been minimal. They relied on the vaccinations and boosters to get them through the Omicron wave.

Currently, the US has more restrictions, particularly on kids, than the UK.
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Then wouldn't it seem that the Democrats would be quickly moving to an endemic approach because COVID fatigue has been present for a while and now that Omicron is going down it's really going to ramp up? I know everyone on here says it's all about control and that's what the Democrats want, but it seems like continuing the fallacy of being able to control COVID will just ruin them at the ballot box.
Some Democrats are starting to shift their views, but are getting tremendous pushback from the zero-Covid and long-Covid zealots. The new favorite term for them is to label anyone who wants to relax restrictions as a Eugenicist.

They can read the polls and they know they are in trouble. This is why you see some shifting, but not as much as you would expect. The teacher's unions are not ready to relax restrictions, primarily due to the fact that they lose leverage and they carry a lot of weight with the politicians. Until the CDC shifts their stance on what makes up "community spread", a definition that is quite arbitrary and not based on data, I do not expect to see big changes in current policies. School children will continue to be masked and fully vaccinated and boosted college students will be required to mask (even healthy athletes).
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In reply to statefan91 • 2:51p, 1/31/22
As I said, it's a question of where political sanity has prevailed and where it hasn't.
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