Daviewolf83 said:

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What do the Covid metrics have to be to remove the masking mandates for vaccinated people? If no one can give you solid metrics, it means the policies are based on feelings and not science.

By the way, my son just texted to tell me the entire campus has to wear a mask indoors the first week of classes. This is at a university that requires all students and staff to be fully vaccinated and the last report I got from the school indicated 97% of students and staff are fully vaccinated.

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Well one things for sure...peons like you and me have no say over the way things should be run in this country. Nor do the puppet politicians that supposedly represent us.

Guess we have to wait for the new dictators of the USA, the CDC and King Fauci to give us their decree -- then all the colleges, school boards, businesses, city councils, governors and everyone else will take their marching orders from the CDC.

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packgrad said:

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The media is all in today on unvaccinated people's last words telling family members and friends to get vaccinated. Very state run propaganda-ish.

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I admit i don't really pay attention to the media, but it's a common statement in the hospital these days among staff that "there are 100 people admitted here that wish they'd gotten the vaccine." It does make me wonder just how many actually feel that way. I'd presume many do, and that is the rumor, but who knows?

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I'm sure medical people in the hospital make snarky comments about lots of ailments people show up with. I was talking about the last words propaganda.

The folks I know that have died from COVID-19 didn't have any last words about the vaccine because they died hooked up to machines. Do they wish they received the vaccine? That's between them and the almighty, but I hope that wasn't their final thought. I think the (IMO mostly fabricated) anecdotes going around about these dying declarations actually do a disservice to trying to get people to get the shots, particularly on social media where so many of them are copied and pasted and attributed to this doctor or that. People who don't want the shot aren't going to be swayed by what they see as propaganda. And frankly, if watching someone you love die isn't motivation, why would their supposed last dying breath declaration matter?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/08/tax-the-unvaxxed-why-stop-there/

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"Tax the Unvaxxed," writes Anne Kim in the Washington Monthly, arguing that "people who refuse the COVID vaccine are imposing costs on society. Time to make them pay." Kim proposes a variety of privately imposed surcharges (not taxes) for instance, restaurants and airlines could impose charges on unvaccinated customers and high-school wrestling teams on unvaxxed participants.

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Kyle Smith's parody article here is rather funny.

The apolitical AAP with another gem.

This is what happens when politics and naked virtue signaling trump common sense and a sober appraisal of medical evidence.

Next comes the incredulous "why has trust in professional societies declined?" https://t.co/uzTV6J7Vc9

— Vinay Prasad, MD MPH 🎙️📷 (@VPrasadMDMPH) August 12, 2021

packgrad said:

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The apolitical AAP with another gem.

This is what happens when politics and naked virtue signaling trump common sense and a sober appraisal of medical evidence.

Next comes the incredulous "why has trust in professional societies declined?" https://t.co/uzTV6J7Vc9

— Vinay Prasad, MD MPH 🎙️📷 (@VPrasadMDMPH) August 12, 2021

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The comments on this one though. It has been a goldmine today.

It is a shame that the AAP has become (or has always been, I really don't know) a sham political organization.

packgrad said:

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Mormad said:

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packgrad said:

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The media is all in today on unvaccinated people's last words telling family members and friends to get vaccinated. Very state run propaganda-ish.

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I admit i don't really pay attention to the media, but it's a common statement in the hospital these days among staff that "there are 100 people admitted here that wish they'd gotten the vaccine." It does make me wonder just how many actually feel that way. I'd presume many do, and that is the rumor, but who knows?

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I'm sure medical people in the hospital make snarky comments about lots of ailments people show up with. I was talking about the last words propaganda.

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First, it is a pretty ghastly "dancing on the graves" exercise, IMO.
Second, that said, it is a tremendous advertisement...in the vein of "this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs"....people all over the SE were runnign out getting vaccinated because paw-paw was dying in the hospital a month ago.
Third...is it the business of news organizations to be promoting and advertising, which is what they are clealry doing here?

packgrad said:

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Here’s Obama dancing maskless with hundreds of his birthday party attendees last night. But, remember, it’s not safe for your kids to go to school without wearing masks. All of this is total and complete bullshit: pic.twitter.com/QGxov4ZJrC

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) August 8, 2021

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A teaching moment.

Another way employers and insurance companies are going to coerce and force people to get injected...they will drop you from health insurance or raise your premiums:

GuerrillaPack said:

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Another way employers and insurance companies are going to coerce and force people to get injected...they will drop you from health insurance or raise your premiums:

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Why shouldn't insurance companies do that? If you ran one, and the metrics said 90% of the people being hospitalized were unvaccinated, and you were shelling out 10s of $$$ for those people to be stuck in a hospital or ICU for x days, wouldn't you make the adjustments to protect your company? Seems like insurance 101 -- identify the risk factors that contribute to higher medical costs, and incent to avoid those (or pay to allow them)?
Same with employers losing people out of the office.

#capitalism.

Use your brains for just a minute. If covid was truly as "deadly serious" as the ruling class/Establishment would have us believe, wouldn't you see elites and high-level politicians wearing masks at all times, socially distancing, etc and taking extreme measures to assure their safety? Hell, there would be pictures of them wearing "biohazard-grade" masks, and practicing extreme social distancing, living like hermits. But no. Obama, numerous state governors, Pelosi, and many others are out partying and living it up like normal with no masks.

This ONE fact alone proves that the official narrative on "covid" is 100% horse $***. Then "connect the dots" and look at all of the other red flags, inconsistencies, and lies which prove the same thing. This is a gargantuan psyop used to push a tyrannical power grab and other ulterior agendas.

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Heard today that NC State and the other UNC system schools will probably send everybody home and out of Dorms & into online classes in the next 10 days . They didn't say it was 100% but certainly leaning that way .


What a complete joke . The leadership we have in this state from Governor down to the school boards is pathetic . A lot of adults should be ashamed but they are so blinded by their crazed idealogy that they want to keep the fear porn and masking of children going and going .


Bout time the rest of us take to the streets like your seeing in other countries .

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Shutting down schools. How quickly they forget.

This was only 124 hours ago: pic.twitter.com/Ki01YduSQw

— NotKennyRogers (@NotKennyRogers) August 12, 2021

What was the shot-to-shot delta used in studies that established the original 90% success rate?

mdreid said:

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Packchem91 said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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Another way employers and insurance companies are going to coerce and force people to get injected...they will drop you from health insurance or raise your premiums:

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Why shouldn't insurance companies do that? If you ran one, and the metrics said 90% of the people being hospitalized were unvaccinated, and you were shelling out 10s of $$$ for those people to be stuck in a hospital or ICU for x days, wouldn't you make the adjustments to protect your company? Seems like insurance 101 -- identify the risk factors that contribute to higher medical costs, and incent to avoid those (or pay to allow them)?
Same with employers losing people out of the office.

#capitalism.

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slippery slope, next thing you know your insurance is dropping you because your family has a history of heart attacks and your currently on blood pressure medication...

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Or because homicide is leading cause of death.

San Francisco and New Orleans join NYC as cities with dictator Mayors unconstitutionally decreeing by fiat "vaccine passports", with proof of vaccination or a recent negative test to go to indoor businesses, events, etc.

https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_20a8445c-fb7b-11eb-bbf1-1fa3b35d5990.html


Also, this is very easy to see...right now you can easily fake that CDC paper card. So within a very short time period they are going to come out with digital aps and other means to show proof that you took the poison injection, such as the scannable QR codes already in use in Australia, France and other nations and which states such as California and New York have already set up -- which is all designed to advance the Chinese-style communist "social credit score" system, where the government has a database on each person, affecting whether they can travel, do business, etc. Where you "cannot buy or sell without the mark".

Tyranny is advancing very rapidly. This is a communist takeover of society...just "coincidentally" happening in every nation in the world...aka the Satanic "New World Order" agenda...tied in to a future "Mark of the Beast" system, that appears it could be coming sooner than later.

Bill Gates said: to bring down the world wide population increase, we can affect this, by 15%, through vaccines, health care, and reproductive rights...

Why would a person, like Bill Gates, say such a thing?

caryking said:

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Bill Gates said: to bring down the world wide population increase, we can affect this, by 15%, through vaccines, health care, and reproductive rights...

Why would a person, like Bill Gates, say such a thing?

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I saw that speech where Gates said that. In context, Gates was arguing that increasing vaccinations for various diseases would cause women in many third world countries to have less children...because he argues that right now, one of the main reasons for having many children in these third world countries is because so many children die in childhood from preventable diseases. So it's not Gates admitting that vaccines have a nefarious/harmful effect -- such as causing deaths and infertility. However, that IS the truth. Vaccines ARE harmful, and cause disease and infertility issues. But Gates and other elites are not going to publicly admit that.

But the damning thing about what Gates and these other elites are publicly saying is that they do want massive human population reduction. Calling for human population reduction is openly anti-human and Satanic, on its face. And the truth is that Gates and these other Satanic/Illuminati/NWO elites are using vaccines and all other sorts of means (abortion, feminist movement, toxins in the food and water, etc) in order to cause disease and lower human fertility and reproduction.

packgrad said:

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mdreid said:

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Packchem91 said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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Another way employers and insurance companies are going to coerce and force people to get injected...they will drop you from health insurance or raise your premiums:

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Why shouldn't insurance companies do that? If you ran one, and the metrics said 90% of the people being hospitalized were unvaccinated, and you were shelling out 10s of $$$ for those people to be stuck in a hospital or ICU for x days, wouldn't you make the adjustments to protect your company? Seems like insurance 101 -- identify the risk factors that contribute to higher medical costs, and incent to avoid those (or pay to allow them)?
Same with employers losing people out of the office.

#capitalism.

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slippery slope, next thing you know your insurance is dropping you because your family has a history of heart attacks and your currently on blood pressure medication...

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Or because homicide is leading cause of death.

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If there was a predictor for homicide (I'm not sure "living in SouthSide Chicago" qualifies), I'd bet an insurance company would charge for that.

Sure, its a slippery slope. But its no less slippery than charging you more for smoking. Its not as diabolical as charging you more because your mom had diabetes.

Dropping you....yes, thats too much, but charging you more -- no issue with that, when the statistics clearly support it. I'd rather the people who choose the people who choose not to get vaccinated and then get sick to pay for it, than me to pay for them by making everyone's rates higher (which is also, surely coming).

US Open (tennis) not allowing fans at the qualifying matches because of the "covid surge". Another indication that things are trending towards the more restrictive measures (lockdowns, business closures) that we saw last year....along with other things we are seeing, such as the post above about NC colleges about to cancel in-person classes to start the fall semester. Won't be long until they are probably trying to shut down "non-essential" businesses again.

So it didn't even get to the full court....ACB rejected it by herself. Am guessing more cases of "my rights" will be forthcoming?

Justice Amy Barrett denies appeal from Indiana University students fighting COVID-19 vaccine mandate | Fox News

Packchem91 said:

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So it didn't even get to the full court....ACB rejected it by herself. Am guessing more cases of "my rights" will be forthcoming?

Justice Amy Barrett denies appeal from Indiana University students fighting COVID-19 vaccine mandate | Fox News

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So much for Trump putting "conservative" justices on the Supreme Court. ACB and Kavanaugh are fake conservative, closet Leftists...like John Roberts. These same clowns just upheld the clearly unconstitutional Obamacare, and have ruled with the Leftists/communists on many issues in the past few years.

The Supreme Court and our entire justice system will not uphold our rights. If so, how has the Patriot Act and NDAA and all the illegal spying on Americans continued for the past 20 years and been upheld by the courts? The Fourth Amendment has been de facto overturned/repealed. That just scratches the surface of all the illegal, unconstitutional rulings of the Supreme Court and all the lesser courts.

Bas2020 said:

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Heard today that NC State and the other UNC system schools will probably send everybody home and out of Dorms & into online classes in the next 10 days . They didn't say it was 100% but certainly leaning that way .


What a complete joke . The leadership we have in this state from Governor down to the school boards is pathetic . A lot of adults should be ashamed but they are so blinded by their crazed idealogy that they want to keep the fear porn and masking of children going and going .


Bout time the rest of us take to the streets like your seeing in other countries .

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My source that has worked at State for 18 years said "State cannot afford to send students home. Must have dorm rent to make it." Doesn't think it will happen.