Oldsouljer said:
WolfPacker54 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
PackPA2015 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
So the CDC and the faux "experts" say you have to wear a mask even after being vaccinated. Meaning that the "vaccines" don't even work, as they even admit.
Now Fauci and the other faux "experts" are saying you need to double mask and wear two freaking masks. LMFAO. How long till they tell you to wear 3 masks at one time?!
These restrictions will never end. Why? Because it's not about a virus. This is not a real pandemic. This is all a gigantic fraud used to bring in a tyrannical (communist) agenda. Research "Event 201" where the elites planned ("war-gamed" a pandemic) this in late 2019 before this all "happened". Research United Nations agenda 2021 and agenda 2030, and "The Great Reset" agenda.
So, you are saying that the real life patients that we, as healthcare providers, see on a daily basis that are some of the sickest patients we have ever seen and test positive for COVID are all just...fake? These patients that we have treated for years by us and end up dying in an ICU by themselves are just...made up? You're saying that all of these healthcare providers and nurses that have died trying to fight COVID are what, paid actors that are now hiding on an island in the middle of the ocean somewhere?
Come on man. I know you like to dabble (maybe more dive right in) in conspiracy theories and the like, but this is insanity.
I'm saying that a lot of people are being misdiagnosed -- and told that they have "covid-19" when they don't. 99%+ of the people who they are claiming are dying "from covid-19" are the very elderly, over 80 years old, and people with pre-existing morbid diseases. Most of those deaths are actually being caused by their pre-existing serious health problems -- such as heart disease, etc. Then they are incorrectly and fraudulently labeling these as "covid" deaths. Even if you believe this is a real novel virus, you have to acknowledge that the testing for it is extremely unreliable. Many people who test "positive" are not sick at all. Tons of false positives. Also, many/most of the people they are counting as "covid cases" or deaths were not even tested at all...but were just "presumed" to have "covid".
And we know that hospitals have a financial incentive to label patients as having "covid" -- based on a law/bill passed that provides additional $$ to hospitals for "covid" cases.
The common cold and the flue are real diseases. What they are calling "covid" may be too. What I'm disputing is that it is as serious as they claim it is.
How do you explain 300,000 excess deaths compared to previous years then? In a year where less people were getting out or driving than any time in the past 50 years.
Seems like you are just calling all of the very obvious and verifiable stats "fake news" yet taking giant leaps in logic to fit your own theories. I know multiple people personally who have been hospitalized or killed by Covid. How is that normal, or just "the flu" as you say? I've never known anyone in my entire life that was killed or hospitalized by a cold or the flu. But I guess it's just some crazy coincidence that in 2020 I happen to know several.
I'm not at all sure that the stats are obvious OR verifiable. Personal case in point, I have good reason to believe I was infected in January of last year, yet I never reported it or was tested, thus I am probably one of a huge number of people who do not fall into the official stats. If so, the mortality rate is far lower than advertised and even the official CDC stats say that around 99% of people below age 70 survive and 95% of folks above 70 make it. That alone puts this coronavirus on par with the worst strains of influenza, and does not justify mask mandates and lockdowns outside of health facilities. Like our health provider friend has posted here, I can't think of anyone I personally know that has perished from influenza, though I know as a microbiologist how dangerous the influenza virus can be. And also, I DO know someone very near and dear to me that has succumbed to coronavirus. The reason why is that she had a very serious lung problem pre-existing. She knew she was at risk but she refused to stop living her pre-2019 life regardless. This dear lady loved liberty more than life and I think she set the example for how we should push back hard against these purveyors of scientism who seem bent on imposing nonsensical mandates upon the citizens of what should be a free Republic.
We have spent a year coddling and encouraging fear so that it now exists as a self-reinforcing virtue cult.
Instead of standing up and acknowledging the seriousness of this virus BUT ALSO the seriousness of the trade offs that we are making.
We have spent over a year abusing this country's children. Depriving them of education, socialization, and athletics. Treating them as on vectors of disease when they are the furthest from it. By making fear a virtue, we removed the massive disparate risk that exists. Come at me on this.
And these Fear Cultists are the most selfish of the selfish.
Anecdote: I have a college 'friend' (in California) who pulled her son from a hockey tournament because the tournament was not going to make the kids play masked. This same person got a vaccine in Group 1 in California as a 'sometimes substitute teacher in the past' for a school that is currently VIRTUAL. She is not letting her children back to school until they are vaccinated.
A healthy woman who jumps the vaccine line who is not at risk and perpetuates this fear is SELFISH. Puts herself ahead of the countless seniors and people with pre-conditions who have real risk. And there are thousands if not millions just like her because we have made this fear a virtue cult.
Lockdowns (as ineffective as they are in the grand scheme) are just a mechanism to support the irrational fear that the white collar elite zoom class has at a real cost and exaggerated death rate for the broader working class. Not to mention again the effects on children who are a not at risk or a significant vector of spread. A pure selfish act of fear induced cowardice of the 'zoom' elite.
I may be just having a day, but I am tired of indulging these people who are legitimately not at risk for this disease. Fauci perpetuating the myth that once you are vaccinated or post-infection (which he won't even acknowledge) that you aren't protected and you are still at a significant risk of spreading the disease. Life will never be 100% free of COVID, this will be endemic (as is the Russian Flu (corona virus) or Spanish Flu) today.
As much as I have despised Scott Gottlieb for the early lockdown panic crap he pushed (and I certainly am not 100% on board with him now), at least he has finally figured some of where we are out.
Let's get through and get people vaccinated. We have seen great positive signs here in NC with rapidly decreasing hospitalizations in the 65+ and congregate communities. Show that, show the way out. Stop trying to scare or shame people into a vaccine. Show the positives, let them make a choice, and then move on.
The damage that the COVID virus has done has been immense. The damage that COVID policy has done is likely even greater and hiding in the shadows. Yes, there have been 100,000s of from COVID deaths but the numbers of excess deaths that are not from COVID or are being classified as 'with' COVID may be just as great if not greater. And ignoring the future life years lost from education, economic, delayed care, or mental health from policy is just short sighted.
This was always going to be a **** situation. We've allowed fear and politics to drive horrible policy decisions, instead of sitting down and acknowledging the seriousness of the situation and that we needed to make policy based on the totality of public health NOT COVID alone.
I am done with coddling fear. It is not healthy and we as a society need to acknowledge that instead of encouraging the fear to continue. Time to live life again, it is too short.
I have lost friends and family due to cruel circumstances. Lives cut too short by fate. Stroke, heart disease, accidental, suicide, overdoes, cancer, bacterial infection, etc., you name it.. we all probably have. A lot of those in the prime of life and as I said. I don't know why so many of these people that were taken too soon also shone so brightly in life, but they did. Every one of them was unfair. COVID or not about 3 million people die a year in the U.S.
Stop peddling and encouraging the fear of the next bogeyman, variant, or whatever is in the shadows.
Acknowledge the seriousness of the situation.
BUT
STOP MAKING FEAR A VIRTUE
Let the children into the sun NOW!! Release any and all restrictions to them.
Vaccinate those that want it (show it is having a REAL positive effect).
Let people live. Life is for living.
I have certainly made a lot of adjustments in my life to account for and manage risk, but I never stopped spending time with my parents. I took my family on the trip of a lifetime. Hell, we even unapologetically visited my wife's grandmother on her birthday because it had been almost a year since we had seen her and every DAY is a gift at her age and family visits are what helps her get to the next one. Do we take extra care and awareness regarding our own health, yes, but it doesn't mean we need to stop living.
I am sorry for all the loved ones lost due to COVID, each one is tragic. But I am sorry for all the life that wasn't lived, the experiences that were lost, all the last days of the non-COVID deaths lived out in fear.
Not even sure what I was trying to say anymore. But I digress.
/rant.