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The risk/ benefit ratio is different for kids. That's why I feel each family and/ or individual has to make their own honest assessments of risk and benefit of vaccination. Everybody's dynamics are different. Luckily, the disease is fairly benign in kids (some parents don't think a fever of 102.5 for 2 days in their 6 month old is benign I guess), but the vaccine is fairly safe too (as an example, I have detailed rates and the typical tclinical course of myocarditis since it's often used in arguments).

Nobody is changing anybody's mind about beliefs regarding benefits of vaccination, so that weighs heavily in decision making whether the decision maker is right or wrong. The benefits for kids as a population have to be less than for the older folks, though. I think we all agree there.

But what do you do if your wife is fighting breast cancer and your 15 yo son is unvaxxed with no known recent infection (especially a year ago)? That's when it gets tough. Easy decision for me. But I understand why many would hesitate. That's why I think information matters, and let's face it, the published data/science/studies on both sides pretty much suck at guiding us. Maybe that's why I feel compelled to post my experiential biases here. Idk.

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Surprised to see on Real America Voice these last few weeks so many pharma advertisements for skin rashes like eczema.

Some of the info I've read suggests that rashes and even shingles will soon become prevalent with the beginnings of V-AIDS as immune systems wane as a result of the jab. I know 3 different people with unusual rashes and all 3 are vaccinated.

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Canadian pastor says health officials offered church $50,000 to push vaccines

Fri Jun 17, 2022

MELFORT, Saskatchewan (LifeSiteNews) A senior Canadian Christian pastor alleged that public health officials offered his church $50,000 if they agreed to promote "vaccine confidence" to parishioners.

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GuerrillaPack said:

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Werewolf said:

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Surprised to see on Real America Voice these last few weeks so many pharma advertisements for skin rashes like eczema.

Some of the info I've read suggests that rashes and even shingles will soon become prevalent with the beginnings of V-AIDS as immune systems wane as a result of the jab. I know 3 different people with unusual rashes and all 3 are vaccinated.

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I also never heard radio commercials all the time about going to see your doctor for arrhythmia or irregular heat beat, until the last year or so. Of course, many of those commercials are by Pfizer. Causing the disease and then selling you the "treatment'. A good business model.

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caryking said:

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Mormad said:

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The risk/ benefit ratio is different for kids. That's why I feel each family and/ or individual has to make their own honest assessments of risk and benefit of vaccination. Everybody's dynamics are different. Luckily, the disease is fairly benign in kids (some parents don't think a fever of 102.5 for 2 days in their 6 month old is benign I guess), but the vaccine is fairly safe too (as an example, I have detailed rates and the typical tclinical course of myocarditis since it's often used in arguments).

Nobody is changing anybody's mind about beliefs regarding benefits of vaccination, so that weighs heavily in decision making whether the decision maker is right or wrong. The benefits for kids as a population have to be less than for the older folks, though. I think we all agree there.

But what do you do if your wife is fighting breast cancer and your 15 yo son is unvaxxed with no known recent infection (especially a year ago)? That's when it gets tough. Easy decision for me. But I understand why many would hesitate. That's why I think information matters, and let's face it, the published data/science/studies on both sides pretty much suck at guiding us. Maybe that's why I feel compelled to post my experiential biases here. Idk.

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I get what you're saying…. I fully understand circumstances, in each household, can and/or will dictate decision. I have no problem with that. As a general rule, taking all the possibilities out, why should a kid get the vaccination?

First, I'll say… I don't look at the data (on deaths) anymore as I've kinda lost interest. That said, I'm just curious why a kid, at any age, would get the vaccine (again, taking the possibilities out)?

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Mormad said:

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Thanks, Cary. I think it's difficult to answer without possibilities or circumstances given they're so integral to the decision making process, but i think i know what you're asking so I'll give it a try. I will pm you with my personal thoughts, Cary, and you can take them FWIW.

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The CDC Just Pushed Fake News on Covid Child Mortality

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The CDC displayed a slide at a conference that falsely claimed Covid-19 was the fourth or fifth leading cause of death for all pediatric age groups. A writer who is publicly known only by the name Kelley immediately saw that the claim was "completely and utterly false." Among several errors, which are so blatant as to seem like intentional massaging of the numbers, Kelley discovered that all data from a 26-month period were being crammed into one year, and that deaths were attributed to Covid, regardless of whether the death was caused by Covid, if the disease was mentioned on the death certificate. The CDC slide, which cited a pre-publication British study that is now being re-examined, also bumped up the numbers by altering the definition of pediatric (ordinarily understood to mean under 18) to include 18- and 19-year-olds.

Writes Shapiro in his Substack column, Marginally Compelling:

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This is a massive data error, and yet it persisted through a supposedly rigorous data check from 11 authors and was selected by top-tier scientists for their landmark presentation to the most knowledgeable experts in the field.
No one in any of these meetings recognized this error. This slide was presented uncritically to the nation's top doctors and epidemiologists who are in charge of setting the national policy on COVID vaccines for children and no one even noticed it.

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Science!

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CDC and FDA should be burned to the ground. They are sham institutions at this point.

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The state's largest hospital systems reaped a windfall from the pandemic, taking emergency taxpayer funding that helped boost record profits and facilitate acquisitions instead of dipping into multibillion-dollar reserves, according to a report released Wednesday by the Department of the State Treasurer.

The state's seven largest systems, combined, grew by $7.1 billion from 2019 to 2021 in cash and financial investments, partly due to a surging stock market, according to the report. The treasurer's office said these hospitals netted $5.3 billion in profits last year, and that six of the seven systems saw higher profits than before the pandemic.

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TheStorm said:

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^ LOL. In other words, "were" fully believes that his postings - and only his postings - have enlightened many on this board that never had the capability to think for themselves before his arrival... dude shows up a full year after this thread started and he immediately knows exactly what everybody here's deepest thoughts on the pandemic are.

Still. Just. Too. Damn. Funny.

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"Monkeypox" is only circulating in Countries where the population have been given the Pfizer Vaccine

June 24 2022

Allegedly, for the first time since its discovery among humans in Africa over 50 years ago, the monkeypox virus is circulating throughout several countries including the USA, UK, Canada, Brazil, Australia and most of Europe all at the same time.

But it just so happens that every single country where monkeypox is allegedly circulating is also a country that has distributed the Pfizer Covid-19 injection to its population; excluding some countries in Africa where the disease has been endemic for the past 50 or so years.

The World Health Organization has not received a single report of monkeypox from any country in the world where the Pfizer vaccine was not administered.

Why is this?

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