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Why did you leave off the 405,399 of WW2? Seems awful convenient.

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Just saw this and yes, I saw the WW2 numbers and knew that would now work. The 5 years and 4 months of World War II American deaths (April 21, 1940 - Aug. 18, 1945) did take an American toll of 405,399! I thought the 7 Wars/Conflits would be enough but I see your comment lands 4stars****....not surprised! You didn't mention the Civil War either and I had 3 GG grandads and 1 GGG granddad die in that one. Civil War ~ 620,000; 4 years, 27 days.

WWII - 76,059.8 American deaths/year
CW - 151,838 American deaths/year


6,800 US death occurred in the Revolutionary war - 7+ years
15,000 Americans died in the war of 1812 - 2 years, 8 months
116,516 US deaths in WW1 - 4 years, 106 days
33,686 US deaths in Korean War - ~ 3 years
4418 Iraqi Freedom - over 1 month
2586 Persian Gulf War - 42 days
2349 Enduring Freedom - 13 years

Covid- 19 American deaths - 196,277 / 6 months and 13 days (as of yesterday) I hope that number stops there but my uneducated guess is it "could" be greater than 405,000 in 1 years time?

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And the CDC said that only 6% of the number were from COVID only. That means 94% had other, mostly primary, conditions causing death with a COVID positive.

I don't know what to make of all these numbers....

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We've been over this. The CDC did NOT say that only 6% of covid deaths were because of covid. They said in only 6% of the death certificates did the doctor simply and ONLY write "covid." On 94% the doctor CORRECTLY AND APPROPRIATELY included things like respiratory failure or ARDS which were the proximate COD secondary TO covid. The table you reference is for all to see and interpret. The 6% is a fallacy and only proves that 6% of the time the doctor did a lazy ass death certificate.

I'm all for pointing out all the inaccuracies and BS that are keeping us shut down, but let's not get in the habit of spreading inaccuracies the other way either.

Carry on.

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Mormad - You should just make a copy of your post and paste in every now and then when the 6% number comes up. It will definitely be mentioned again and just pasting in this post will save you some time by not having to re-type it.

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9/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
180,754
NC Deaths
2990
Currently Hospitalized
928 <- 90% reporting (was 916 at 86%)
Completed Tests
2,521,839


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1544 Deaths are now Congregate (+13)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

962 Deaths assumed General Population (+16)
2028 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

353 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+9)
Nursing Homes 192 -> 199
Resident Care 101 -> 103
Correctional 43 -> 41
Other 8 -> 10
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1222 positive cases over 31726* new tests. 3.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31726 but DHHS claims only 26277 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/10
9/9(2), 9/8(5), 9/7(9), 9/6(6), 9/5(5), 9/4(4), 9/3, 8/30, 8/28, 7/20

2 missing Dates of Death assigned dates.
1 death removed on 9/1

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9/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
182,286
NC Deaths
3023
Currently Hospitalized
938 <- 93% reporting (was 928 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,558,654


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1564 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+33 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

975 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
2048 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+20)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 199 -> 205
Resident Care 103 -> 105
Correctional 41 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1532 positive cases over 36815* new tests. 4.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 36815 but DHHS claims only 30056 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/11
9/10(10), 9/9(6). 9/8(4). 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/4(2), 9/1, 8/30, 8/26, 8/17(2), 8/6, 8/3, 7/7

2 DoD previously missing assigned dates.

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9/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
183,740
NC Deaths
3047
Currently Hospitalized
870 <- 95% reporting (was 938 at 93%)
Completed Tests
2,581,132


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1578 Deaths are now Congregate (+14)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

984 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2063 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 209
Resident Care 105 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1454 positive cases over 22478* new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22478 but DHHS claims only 17717 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/12
9/11(2), 9/10(7), 9/9(3), 9/8, 9/7(2), 9/3(3), 8/30, 8/21

4 deaths added missing DoD.

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9/13/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
184,936
NC Deaths
3052
Currently Hospitalized
831 <- 91% reporting (was 870 at 95%)
Completed Tests
2,616,108


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1581 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

986 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
2066 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

358 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 209 -> 210
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1196 positive cases over 34976* new tests. 3.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 34976 but DHHS claims only 19632 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/13
9/12, 9/11(4)

DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.9%

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9/14/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
185,781
NC Deaths
3060
Currently Hospitalized
895 <- 92% reporting (was 831 at 91%)
Completed Tests
2,634,819


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1587 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
486 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

987 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
2073 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)

350 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-8)
Nursing Homes 210 -> 208
Resident Care 101 -> 97
Correctional 37 -> 35
Other 10 -> 10
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845 positive cases over 18711* new tests. 4.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 18711 but DHHS claims only 13313 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/14
9/13, 9/12(3), 9/11, 9/10, 9/9, 9/8, 8/27, 8/22, 8/17

3 DoD previously missing assigned dates.


DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.8%

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9/15/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
186,887
NC Deaths
3111
Currently Hospitalized
916 <- 94% reporting (was 895 at 92%)
Completed Tests
2,652,440


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1621 Deaths are now Congregate (+34)
489 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+51 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1001 Deaths assumed General Population (+14)
2110 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+37)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-5)
Nursing Homes 208 -> 205
Resident Care 97 -> 96
Correctional 35 -> 36
Other 10 -> 8
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1106 positive cases over 17621* new tests. 6.3% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 17621 but DHHS claims only 9563 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/15
9/14(7), 9/13(6), 9/12(5), 9/11(8), 9/10(3), 9/9, 9/8, 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/1, 8/30, 8/17, 8/12, 8/9, 8/7, 8/4, 8/3, 8/1, 7/23, 7/16, 7/12(2), 4/14

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9/16/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
188,024
NC Deaths
3149
Currently Hospitalized
918 <- 96% reporting (was 916 at 94%)
Completed Tests
2,683,384


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1642 Deaths are now Congregate (+21)
498 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+38 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1009 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
2140 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+30)

338 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-7)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 204
Resident Care 96 -> 91
Correctional 36 -> 35
Other 8 -> 8
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1137 positive cases over 30944* new tests. 3.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 30944 but DHHS claims only 22513 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/16
9/15(2), 9/14(13), 9/13(6), 9/12(5), 9/11, 9/10, 9/8(2), 9/6(3), 9/5, 9/4, 9/3(2), 9/2, 8/29, 8/25, 8/14

2 missing DoD assigned Dates

One Death Removed
9/7 (Gaston)

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9/17/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
189,576
NC Deaths
3180
Currently Hospitalized
894 <- 96% reporting (was 918 at 96%)
Completed Tests
2,714,175


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1654 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
508 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+10)
+31 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1018 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2162 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+22)

332 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-6)
Nursing Homes 204 -> 201
Resident Care 91 -> 87
Correctional 35 -> 35
Other 8 -> 9
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1552 positive cases over 30791* new tests. 5.0% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 30944 but DHHS claims only 24950 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/17
9/16(5), 9/15(8), 9/14(8), 9/11(2), 9/8, 9/4, 9/3, 9/1, 8/23, 8/17, 8/16(2), 8/8, 8/3, 7/10

Deaths REMOVED 9/17
8/27, 8/18, 8/14

With so many changes still double checking.

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9/18/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
191,019
NC Deaths
3207
Currently Hospitalized
904 <- 94% reporting (was 894 at 96%)
Completed Tests
2,749,020


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1670 Deaths are now Congregate (+16)
511 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+27 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1026 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
2181 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+19)

336 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 201 -> 204
Resident Care 87 -> 89
Correctional 35 -> 35
Other 9 -> 8
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1443 positive cases over 34875* new tests. 4.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 34875 but DHHS claims only 25978 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/18
9/17(3), 9/16(11), 9/15, 9/14(2), 9/10, 9/9, 9/8, 9/7, 9/1, 8/30, 8/18, 8/10, 8/9, 7/21

1 death removed 8/3

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9/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
180,754
NC Deaths
2990
Currently Hospitalized
928 <- 90% reporting (was 916 at 86%)
Completed Tests
2,521,839


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1544 Deaths are now Congregate (+13)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

962 Deaths assumed General Population (+16)
2028 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

353 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+9)
Nursing Homes 192 -> 199
Resident Care 101 -> 103
Correctional 43 -> 41
Other 8 -> 10
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1222 positive cases over 31726* new tests. 3.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31726 but DHHS claims only 26277 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/10
9/9(2), 9/8(5), 9/7(9), 9/6(6), 9/5(5), 9/4(4), 9/3, 8/30, 8/28, 7/20

2 missing Dates of Death assigned dates.
1 death removed on 9/1

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9/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
182,286
NC Deaths
3023
Currently Hospitalized
938 <- 93% reporting (was 928 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,558,654


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1564 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+33 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

975 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
2048 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+20)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 199 -> 205
Resident Care 103 -> 105
Correctional 41 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1532 positive cases over 36815* new tests. 4.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 36815 but DHHS claims only 30056 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/11
9/10(10), 9/9(6). 9/8(4). 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/4(2), 9/1, 8/30, 8/26, 8/17(2), 8/6, 8/3, 7/7

2 DoD previously missing assigned dates.

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9/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
183,740
NC Deaths
3047
Currently Hospitalized
870 <- 95% reporting (was 938 at 93%)
Completed Tests
2,581,132


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1578 Deaths are now Congregate (+14)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

984 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2063 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 209
Resident Care 105 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1454 positive cases over 22478* new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22478 but DHHS claims only 17717 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/12
9/11(2), 9/10(7), 9/9(3), 9/8, 9/7(2), 9/3(3), 8/30, 8/21

4 deaths added missing DoD.

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9/13/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
184,936
NC Deaths
3052
Currently Hospitalized
831 <- 91% reporting (was 870 at 95%)
Completed Tests
2,616,108


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1581 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

986 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
2066 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

358 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 209 -> 210
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1196 positive cases over 34976* new tests. 3.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 34976 but DHHS claims only 19632 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/13
9/12, 9/11(4)

DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.9%

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9/14/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
185,781
NC Deaths
3060
Currently Hospitalized
895 <- 92% reporting (was 831 at 91%)
Completed Tests
2,634,819


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1587 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
486 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

987 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
2073 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)

350 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-8)
Nursing Homes 210 -> 208
Resident Care 101 -> 97
Correctional 37 -> 35
Other 10 -> 10
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845 positive cases over 18711* new tests. 4.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 18711 but DHHS claims only 13313 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/14
9/13, 9/12(3), 9/11, 9/10, 9/9, 9/8, 8/27, 8/22, 8/17

3 DoD previously missing assigned dates.


DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.8%

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9/15/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
186,887
NC Deaths
3111
Currently Hospitalized
916 <- 94% reporting (was 895 at 92%)
Completed Tests
2,652,440


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1621 Deaths are now Congregate (+34)
489 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+51 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1001 Deaths assumed General Population (+14)
2110 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+37)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-5)
Nursing Homes 208 -> 205
Resident Care 97 -> 96
Correctional 35 -> 36
Other 10 -> 8
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1106 positive cases over 17621* new tests. 6.3% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 17621 but DHHS claims only 9563 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/15
9/14(7), 9/13(6), 9/12(5), 9/11(8), 9/10(3), 9/9, 9/8, 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/1, 8/30, 8/17, 8/12, 8/9, 8/7, 8/4, 8/3, 8/1, 7/23, 7/16, 7/12(2), 4/14

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9/16/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
188,024
NC Deaths
3149
Currently Hospitalized
918 <- 96% reporting (was 916 at 94%)
Completed Tests
2,683,384


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1642 Deaths are now Congregate (+21)
498 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+38 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1009 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
2140 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+30)

338 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-7)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 204
Resident Care 96 -> 91
Correctional 36 -> 35
Other 8 -> 8
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1137 positive cases over 30944* new tests. 3.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 30944 but DHHS claims only 22513 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/16
9/15(2), 9/14(13), 9/13(6), 9/12(5), 9/11, 9/10, 9/8(2), 9/6(3), 9/5, 9/4, 9/3(2), 9/2, 8/29, 8/25, 8/14

2 missing DoD assigned Dates

One Death Removed
9/7 (Gaston)

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9/17/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
189,576
NC Deaths
3180
Currently Hospitalized
894 <- 96% reporting (was 918 at 96%)
Completed Tests
2,714,175


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1654 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
508 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+10)
+31 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1018 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2162 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+22)

332 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-6)
Nursing Homes 204 -> 201
Resident Care 91 -> 87
Correctional 35 -> 35
Other 8 -> 9
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1552 positive cases over 30791* new tests. 5.0% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 30944 but DHHS claims only 24950 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/17
9/16(5), 9/15(8), 9/14(8), 9/11(2), 9/8, 9/4, 9/3, 9/1, 8/23, 8/17, 8/16(2), 8/8, 8/3, 7/10

Deaths REMOVED 9/17
8/27, 8/18, 8/14

With so many changes still double checking.

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9/18/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
191,019
NC Deaths
3207
Currently Hospitalized
904 <- 94% reporting (was 894 at 96%)
Completed Tests
2,749,020


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1670 Deaths are now Congregate (+16)
511 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+27 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1026 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
2181 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+19)

336 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 201 -> 204
Resident Care 87 -> 89
Correctional 35 -> 35
Other 9 -> 8
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1443 positive cases over 34875* new tests. 4.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 34875 but DHHS claims only 25978 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/18
9/17(3), 9/16(11), 9/15, 9/14(2), 9/10, 9/9, 9/8, 9/7, 9/1, 8/30, 8/18, 8/10, 8/9, 7/21

1 death removed 8/3

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9/19/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
192,248
NC Deaths
3235
Currently Hospitalized
882 <- 96% reporting (was 904 at 94%)
Completed Tests
2,771,020


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1686 Deaths are now Congregate (+16)
519 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+8)
+28 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1030 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
2205 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+24)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+9)
Nursing Homes 204 -> 212
Resident Care 89 -> 92
Correctional 35 -> 34
Other 8 -> 7
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1229 positive cases over 22000* new tests. 5.6% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22000 but DHHS claims only 14219 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/19
9/18(3), 9/17(6), 9/16(3), 9/15(2), 9/14, 9/13(4), 9/12, 9/10, 9/9(2), 9/8, 9/5(3), 8/27, 8/1

1 new missing DoD.

Peak DoD 8/1 increases 39 -> 40

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9/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
180,754
NC Deaths
2990
Currently Hospitalized
928 <- 90% reporting (was 916 at 86%)
Completed Tests
2,521,839


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1544 Deaths are now Congregate (+13)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

962 Deaths assumed General Population (+16)
2028 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

353 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+9)
Nursing Homes 192 -> 199
Resident Care 101 -> 103
Correctional 43 -> 41
Other 8 -> 10
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1222 positive cases over 31726* new tests. 3.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31726 but DHHS claims only 26277 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/10
9/9(2), 9/8(5), 9/7(9), 9/6(6), 9/5(5), 9/4(4), 9/3, 8/30, 8/28, 7/20

2 missing Dates of Death assigned dates.
1 death removed on 9/1

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9/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
182,286
NC Deaths
3023
Currently Hospitalized
938 <- 93% reporting (was 928 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,558,654


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1564 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+33 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

975 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
2048 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+20)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 199 -> 205
Resident Care 103 -> 105
Correctional 41 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1532 positive cases over 36815* new tests. 4.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 36815 but DHHS claims only 30056 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/11
9/10(10), 9/9(6). 9/8(4). 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/4(2), 9/1, 8/30, 8/26, 8/17(2), 8/6, 8/3, 7/7

2 DoD previously missing assigned dates.

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9/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
183,740
NC Deaths
3047
Currently Hospitalized
870 <- 95% reporting (was 938 at 93%)
Completed Tests
2,581,132


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1578 Deaths are now Congregate (+14)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

984 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2063 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 209
Resident Care 105 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1454 positive cases over 22478* new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22478 but DHHS claims only 17717 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/12
9/11(2), 9/10(7), 9/9(3), 9/8, 9/7(2), 9/3(3), 8/30, 8/21

4 deaths added missing DoD.

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9/13/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
184,936
NC Deaths
3052
Currently Hospitalized
831 <- 91% reporting (was 870 at 95%)
Completed Tests
2,616,108


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1581 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

986 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
2066 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

358 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 209 -> 210
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1196 positive cases over 34976* new tests. 3.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 34976 but DHHS claims only 19632 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/13
9/12, 9/11(4)

DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.9%

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9/14/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
185,781
NC Deaths
3060
Currently Hospitalized
895 <- 92% reporting (was 831 at 91%)
Completed Tests
2,634,819


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1587 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
486 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

987 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
2073 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)

350 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-8)
Nursing Homes 210 -> 208
Resident Care 101 -> 97
Correctional 37 -> 35
Other 10 -> 10
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845 positive cases over 18711* new tests. 4.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 18711 but DHHS claims only 13313 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/14
9/13, 9/12(3), 9/11, 9/10, 9/9, 9/8, 8/27, 8/22, 8/17

3 DoD previously missing assigned dates.


DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.8%

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9/15/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
186,887
NC Deaths
3111
Currently Hospitalized
916 <- 94% reporting (was 895 at 92%)
Completed Tests
2,652,440


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1621 Deaths are now Congregate (+34)
489 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+51 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1001 Deaths assumed General Population (+14)
2110 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+37)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-5)
Nursing Homes 208 -> 205
Resident Care 97 -> 96
Correctional 35 -> 36
Other 10 -> 8
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1106 positive cases over 17621* new tests. 6.3% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 17621 but DHHS claims only 9563 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/15
9/14(7), 9/13(6), 9/12(5), 9/11(8), 9/10(3), 9/9, 9/8, 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/1, 8/30, 8/17, 8/12, 8/9, 8/7, 8/4, 8/3, 8/1, 7/23, 7/16, 7/12(2), 4/14

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9/16/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
188,024
NC Deaths
3149
Currently Hospitalized
918 <- 96% reporting (was 916 at 94%)
Completed Tests
2,683,384


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1642 Deaths are now Congregate (+21)
498 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+38 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1009 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
2140 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+30)

338 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-7)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 204
Resident Care 96 -> 91
Correctional 36 -> 35
Other 8 -> 8
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1137 positive cases over 30944* new tests. 3.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 30944 but DHHS claims only 22513 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/16
9/15(2), 9/14(13), 9/13(6), 9/12(5), 9/11, 9/10, 9/8(2), 9/6(3), 9/5, 9/4, 9/3(2), 9/2, 8/29, 8/25, 8/14

2 missing DoD assigned Dates

One Death Removed
9/7 (Gaston)

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9/17/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
189,576
NC Deaths
3180
Currently Hospitalized
894 <- 96% reporting (was 918 at 96%)
Completed Tests
2,714,175


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1654 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
508 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+10)
+31 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1018 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2162 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+22)

332 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-6)
Nursing Homes 204 -> 201
Resident Care 91 -> 87
Correctional 35 -> 35
Other 8 -> 9
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1552 positive cases over 30791* new tests. 5.0% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 30944 but DHHS claims only 24950 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/17
9/16(5), 9/15(8), 9/14(8), 9/11(2), 9/8, 9/4, 9/3, 9/1, 8/23, 8/17, 8/16(2), 8/8, 8/3, 7/10

Deaths REMOVED 9/17
8/27, 8/18, 8/14

With so many changes still double checking.

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9/18/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
191,019
NC Deaths
3207
Currently Hospitalized
904 <- 94% reporting (was 894 at 96%)
Completed Tests
2,749,020


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1670 Deaths are now Congregate (+16)
511 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+27 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1026 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
2181 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+19)

336 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 201 -> 204
Resident Care 87 -> 89
Correctional 35 -> 35
Other 9 -> 8
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1443 positive cases over 34875* new tests. 4.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 34875 but DHHS claims only 25978 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/18
9/17(3), 9/16(11), 9/15, 9/14(2), 9/10, 9/9, 9/8, 9/7, 9/1, 8/30, 8/18, 8/10, 8/9, 7/21

1 death removed 8/3

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9/19/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
192,248
NC Deaths
3235
Currently Hospitalized
882 <- 96% reporting (was 904 at 94%)
Completed Tests
2,771,020


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1686 Deaths are now Congregate (+16)
519 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+8)
+28 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1030 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
2205 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+24)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+9)
Nursing Homes 204 -> 212
Resident Care 89 -> 92
Correctional 35 -> 34
Other 8 -> 7
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1229 positive cases over 22000* new tests. 5.6% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22000 but DHHS claims only 14219 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/19
9/18(3), 9/17(6), 9/16(3), 9/15(2), 9/14, 9/13(4), 9/12, 9/10, 9/9(2), 9/8, 9/5(3), 8/27, 8/1

1 new missing DoD.

Peak DoD 8/1 increases 39 -> 40

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9/20/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
193,581
NC Deaths
3243
Currently Hospitalized
889 <- 94% reporting (was 882 at 96%)
Completed Tests
2,804,818


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1687 Deaths are now Congregate (+1)
520 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1036 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
2207 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)

346 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 212 -> 213
Resident Care 92 -> 92
Correctional 34 -> 34
Other 7 -> 7
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1333 positive cases over 33798* new tests. 3.9% positive rate. (DHHS 4.6%)

Delta completed tests 33798 but DHHS claims only 17478 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/20
9/19, 9/18, 9/16, 9/15(2), 9/13, 9/11, 9/7, 8/19
6 of the deaths are from Alamance

One Death Removed 9/5 (Currituck)

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Wayland said:

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800 positive cases over 12721* new tests. 6.3% positive rate. (DHHS 4.6%)

Delta completed tests 12721 but DHHS claims only 8231 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/21
9/20, 9/19, 9/17, 8/4

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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800 positive cases over 12721* new tests. 6.3% positive rate. (DHHS 4.6%)

Delta completed tests 12721 but DHHS claims only 8231 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/21
9/20, 9/19, 9/17, 8/4

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Has NCDHHS ever explained why (or more importantly how) they figure their percent positive rate differently than using the actual numbers they post for us on that given day? *and I'm guessing that you forgot to change the (DHHS 4.6%) from copying over the template from the day prior...

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Wayland said:

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800 positive cases over 12721* new tests. 6.3% positive rate. (DHHS 4.6%)

Delta completed tests 12721 but DHHS claims only 8231 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/21
9/20, 9/19, 9/17, 8/4

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Has NCDHHS ever explained why (or more importantly how) they figure their percent positive rate differently than using the actual numbers they post for us on that given day? *and I'm guessing that you forgot to change the (DHHS 4.6%) from copying over the template from the day prior...

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Thanks for the catch. Yes, they were at 5.4% today.

They end up throwing tests on previous days reporting and changing those values. It makes it hard to track which tests get assigned to which days. Still don't know the numbers they use to calculate their percentage.

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Wayland said:

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800 positive cases over 12721* new tests. 6.3% positive rate. (DHHS 4.6%)

Delta completed tests 12721 but DHHS claims only 8231 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/21
9/20, 9/19, 9/17, 8/4

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Has NCDHHS ever explained why (or more importantly how) they figure their percent positive rate differently than using the actual numbers they post for us on that given day? *and I'm guessing that you forgot to change the (DHHS 4.6%) from copying over the template from the day prior...

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Thanks for the catch. Yes, they were at 5.4% today.

They end up throwing tests on previous days reporting and changing those values. It makes it hard to track which tests get assigned to which days. Still don't know the numbers they use to calculate their percentage.

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I think it should be fairly obvious that we are the only country counting the "with Covid" numbers as "from Covid"... all you have to do is look at the numbers and use common logic (which I realize is in short supply anymore nowadays).

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I think it should be fairly obvious that we are the only country counting the "with Covid" numbers as "from Covid"... all you have to do is look at the numbers and use common logic (which I realize is in short supply anymore nowadays).

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That's cool. But tell me what those people died of when they died "with covid." Tell me what you're seeing, brother.

There's also a link provided by the Milwaukee coroner in the comments that lists all the deaths. That may help too.

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Mormad said:

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Do people die of dementia? Or do they die of other things because they have dementia? (The answer is the latter)

That death certificate lists covid as the cod, and dementia as a morbidity.

We love to argue only those who are old and have co-morbidities listed on those certificates have to worry about dying from covid, and then when they do die we love to argue that they died of the co-morbidities instead of covid so that the numbers don't have to look so bad.

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Mormad said:

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Here's why i think he looks dumb:

1. He insinuates that old people with chronic disease like parkinson's, DM, HTN, COPD, PVD, heart disease who also contract covid all die of the chronic condition and with covid, instead of FROM covid WITH Co-morbidities.

2. those certificates, to me, actually separate out those that died WITH covid vs those that died FROM covid by using cause A and cause B.

3. His comments after the tweet confirm his lack of understanding what he's seeing in those death certificates and his lack of knowledge regarding disease processes. He's flabbergasted by the fact that they listed a person as dead from covid when they had 5 co-morbidities like no patient like that could ever die of covid. "You can't make this up."

Whatever. It doesn't matter. But i see nothing wrong with those certificates, nor do i see anything political about them.

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Mormad said:

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Yes, just as they did in the tally of those dementia numbers you pulled. How do you think they got those numbers?

There is nothing wrong with those death certificates. You, I, nor i promise you Alex Berenson can look at those death certificates and dispute their validity. He's doing so, and using ridiculously poor logic. You like it and defend it because it fits your narrative, despite its flaws. Again, he looks at a death certificate that lists "complications from covid infection" as the COD and then states the person didn't die of covid because they had Parkinsons, afib, htn, diabetes, and pvd. He assumes they died of one of those things and the covid is a lie, and then says, "you can't make this up." He's flabbergasted, but I'm also flabbergasted at the sheer stupidity in such logic and ignorance of disease. I'm sorry that he is so wrong in this. Pointing out things to calm fear using poor logic and complete misunderstanding doesn't sound so pragmatic to me. Filling out death certificates correctly isn't the issue here, how you think they're being used is the issue. Alex shows ignorance in blaming the reporting, instead of the interpretation. I'm saying the reporting is accurate and appropriate. If we want to argue how that data is USED to keep us down, I'm behind you all the way.

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Mormad said:

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Look, i want life back to normal. I want to go out to eat. I want to go watch sports. I want things opened up intelligently based on the science as we understand it today. I'm sick of the political bullsht. But i also can't support such poor interpretation of things people like him don't understand and putting that all over Twitter like it's authoritative and accurate just because it supports my end game. I want things open, but let us keep it honest, real, and objective because the other side isn't.

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