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Ground_Chuck
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PackProwl63 said:

Glasswolf I understand some of what you say and glad you are a blessed man REALLY! I did not vote for a preacher but a someone who was not a politician etc. Russia collusion if any was from Clinton etc but still not ONE VOTE was changed on a ballot etc. Obama interfered with Israel election etc. Trump has done a lot of good for this country and rather have him than a bunch of crazy leftists/socialist ! At 56 I vote for my children's future and grandchildren! I have seen the damage the far left have done to this country the last 30 years and deep state Dems and Republicans.
Trump might not be saved but King David and Solomon did a lot worse than Trump but God used them . I know one thing this isn't about America but more about the future of Israel -and have no clue we're America fits in the end times. Merry Christmas and hope you and your family have a BLESSED 2020.
I'm sure they'll be very happen with your choices.
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PackBacker07 said:

PackProwl63 said:

Glasswolf I understand some of what you say and glad you are a blessed man REALLY! I did not vote for a preacher but a someone who was not a politician etc. Russia collusion if any was from Clinton etc but still not ONE VOTE was changed on a ballot etc. Obama interfered with Israel election etc. Trump has done a lot of good for this country and rather have him than a bunch of crazy leftists/socialist ! At 56 I vote for my children's future and grandchildren! I have seen the damage the far left have done to this country the last 30 years and deep state Dems and Republicans.
Trump might not be saved but King David and Solomon did a lot worse than Trump but God used them . I know one thing this isn't about America but more about the future of Israel -and have no clue we're America fits in the end times. Merry Christmas and hope you and your family have a BLESSED 2020.


You know his argument is based in facts when he mentions #DeepState. Have a Happy Holiday everyone.

It's Merry Christmas everyone!
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Glasswolf said:

Francis said:

Glasswolf said:

Did you listen to any of the testimony? The man is guilty as sin. Will he be removed from office? No. Will I do my part to vote him out next November? Yes. That is all the power I have as a US Citizen. I will also vote to remove every GOP member up for re-election in 2020.

Glass: just from reading from your posts from past PP and the IPS premium sites, you really seem like a very unhappy and miserable person. Just an observation. We are all passionate about NCS and the USA, but you just seem to have hate in you when it comes to politics. Hope you find peace someday.
1at off, I am an extremely happy and blessed man with a beautiful wife that I celebrated 22 years of marriage with. 2 fantastic grown children who are happy healthy and thriving in their lives. I have a wonderful job and life is fantastic. I just do not like what Trump and his followers are doing to this country.

If you've read my post from PP and IPS you will recall that I am in fact a registered democrat and I'm not ashamed of that. You would have also read that I have voted of my time since I 1st registered in 1978 for as many republicans as democrats. I've voted this way in both national, state and local elections. As far as hate goes I do not hate anyone. But Trump brings me very close to that line.

Case in point from the last 2 days: Our own intelligence agencies, all of them without fail have stated RUSSIA meddled in out 2016 elections and are most likely to do it in 2020. Trump refuses to except this. Why? Because Putin, the President of RUSSIA told Trump on 2 occasions that Ukraine was responsible. Who does Trump believe? PUTIN.

The man claims to be a Christian but cannot site his favorite bible verse but claims to read it daily. He says he has never asked God for forgiveness of his sins which is the cornerstone of the Christian faith. He says he needs no such forgiveness.

Find me a republican to vote for, dig up Richard Nixon or Ronald Reagan or a 3rd party candidate and I'm there.

Go look at Lindsey Grahams comments from 1999 during the Clinton impeachment and compare them to today.

. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/25/lindsey-graham-impeachment-before-after-ebof-vpx.cnn

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/1500-steel-workers-laid-off-two-days-after-trump-says-us-steel-mills-are-doing-great/?fbclid=IwAR2pxZZxao94uxfYNe2nAVZPAMAiivkVPZzAUhrgqvIfsb_z49pkMFrXvIY

The layoffs come just two days after President Trump claimed the industry was in great shape.

"Look at what I've done for steel," Trump told an audience at Michigan rally on Wednesday. 'I mean, the steel is back. We taxed all the dumb steel coming in from China and other places, and US steel mills are doing great they're expanding all over the country, and they were gonna be out of business within two years the way they were going."
Trump has many many faults but putting the country first aint one of them. He also has put our "allies" on notice that we arent going to take it up the ass anymore while they still expect us to protect them.

Calling out the liberal media is long overdue.

He will get my vote again for those reasons alone much less because the Dems are in love with socialism/identity politics. I never knew I "hated" so many people. Get real....talk about divisive rhetoric.
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YouPeople said:

Glasswolf said:

Francis said:

Glasswolf said:

Did you listen to any of the testimony? The man is guilty as sin. Will he be removed from office? No. Will I do my part to vote him out next November? Yes. That is all the power I have as a US Citizen. I will also vote to remove every GOP member up for re-election in 2020.

Glass: just from reading from your posts from past PP and the IPS premium sites, you really seem like a very unhappy and miserable person. Just an observation. We are all passionate about NCS and the USA, but you just seem to have hate in you when it comes to politics. Hope you find peace someday.
1at off, I am an extremely happy and blessed man with a beautiful wife that I celebrated 22 years of marriage with. 2 fantastic grown children who are happy healthy and thriving in their lives. I have a wonderful job and life is fantastic. I just do not like what Trump and his followers are doing to this country.

If you've read my post from PP and IPS you will recall that I am in fact a registered democrat and I'm not ashamed of that. You would have also read that I have voted of my time since I 1st registered in 1978 for as many republicans as democrats. I've voted this way in both national, state and local elections. As far as hate goes I do not hate anyone. But Trump brings me very close to that line.

Case in point from the last 2 days: Our own intelligence agencies, all of them without fail have stated RUSSIA meddled in out 2016 elections and are most likely to do it in 2020. Trump refuses to except this. Why? Because Putin, the President of RUSSIA told Trump on 2 occasions that Ukraine was responsible. Who does Trump believe? PUTIN.

The man claims to be a Christian but cannot site his favorite bible verse but claims to read it daily. He says he has never asked God for forgiveness of his sins which is the cornerstone of the Christian faith. He says he needs no such forgiveness.

Find me a republican to vote for, dig up Richard Nixon or Ronald Reagan or a 3rd party candidate and I'm there.

Go look at Lindsey Grahams comments from 1999 during the Clinton impeachment and compare them to today.

. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/25/lindsey-graham-impeachment-before-after-ebof-vpx.cnn

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/1500-steel-workers-laid-off-two-days-after-trump-says-us-steel-mills-are-doing-great/?fbclid=IwAR2pxZZxao94uxfYNe2nAVZPAMAiivkVPZzAUhrgqvIfsb_z49pkMFrXvIY

The layoffs come just two days after President Trump claimed the industry was in great shape.

"Look at what I've done for steel," Trump told an audience at Michigan rally on Wednesday. 'I mean, the steel is back. We taxed all the dumb steel coming in from China and other places, and US steel mills are doing great they're expanding all over the country, and they were gonna be out of business within two years the way they were going."
Trump has many many faults but putting the country first aint one of them. He also has put our "allies" on notice that we arent going to take it up the ass anymore while they still expect us to protect them.

Calling out the liberal media is long overdue.

He will get my vote again for those reasons alone much less because the Dems are in love with socialism/identity politics. I never knew I "hated" so many people. Get real....talk about divisive rhetoric.


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RunsWithWolves26
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Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?
packgrad
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.
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I'm glad the action was taken. I would love to enforce the "dont F with us" mentality. Unemployment is low, the economy is booming, and our enemies are afraid. If it weren't for him grabbing her right by the p****.
We're all Red on the inside. Some of us are just Blue in the face, and they're sick.
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packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal
RunsWithWolves26
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IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


He just plotted the attack last week that killed an American contractor. He is also responsible for more then 500 American deaths since 2005. Evidence enough for me but maybe not enough for others. Also, he wasn't a citizen, he was a terrorist general.
packgrad
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IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.
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packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.
RunsWithWolves26
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IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.


The UN designated him a terrorist in the late 2000's so for me, that's enough right there. Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of American men and women he is responsible for killing or having killed. If bush or obama had done their job, this wouldn't be talked about now. They didn't take him out, Trump did and sadly, there are people out there finding yet another thing to ***** about.
packgrad
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IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.
How many people do you have to be responsible for killing until Iran and Iraq consider you a terrorist? And to follow that up, who the **** cares what those animals consider a "terrorist"? I bet the families of the people he killed don't.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.


The UN designated him a terrorist in the late 2000's so for me, that's enough right there. Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of American men and women he is responsible for killing or having killed. If bush or obama had done their job, this wouldn't be talked about now. They didn't take him out, Trump did and sadly, there are people out there finding yet another thing to ***** about.

Neither Bush or Obama were unfamiliar with ordering drone killings. Obama even ordered a strike on an American citizen without judicial review. For whatever reason, both administration's determined that the killing wasn't worth potential escalations with Iran and others. As I've said, if he was plotting an imminent attack, we would have legal, international justification to strike, but the administration should provide that.

I can't believe I am even defending either Bush or Obama on foreign policy. Both were as bad as Trump. One thing I was hopeful for with Trump's win was that he'd actually get us out of the Middle East. Instead he's sucking us further in.
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IseWolf22 said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.


The UN designated him a terrorist in the late 2000's so for me, that's enough right there. Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of American men and women he is responsible for killing or having killed. If bush or obama had done their job, this wouldn't be talked about now. They didn't take him out, Trump did and sadly, there are people out there finding yet another thing to ***** about.

Neither Bush or Obama were unfamiliar with ordering drone killings. Obama even ordered a strike on an American citizen without judicial review. For whatever reason, both administration's determined that the killing wasn't worth potential escalations with Iran and others. As I've said, if he was plotting an imminent attack, we would have legal, international justification to strike, but the administration should provide that.

I can't believe I am even defending either Bush or Obama on foreign policy. Both were as bad as Trump. One thing I was hopeful for with Trump's win was that he'd actually get us out of the Middle East. Instead he's sucking us further in.


Another top terrorist killed without a single US service man or woman dieing and yet, people are still going to complain. As miserable a person Trump is, dude could cure cancer and people would still ***** about him not doing it soon enough. Next time we should just ignore the threat or just send them money. That seems to be ok for some.
IseWolf22
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.


The UN designated him a terrorist in the late 2000's so for me, that's enough right there. Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of American men and women he is responsible for killing or having killed. If bush or obama had done their job, this wouldn't be talked about now. They didn't take him out, Trump did and sadly, there are people out there finding yet another thing to ***** about.

Neither Bush or Obama were unfamiliar with ordering drone killings. Obama even ordered a strike on an American citizen without judicial review. For whatever reason, both administration's determined that the killing wasn't worth potential escalations with Iran and others. As I've said, if he was plotting an imminent attack, we would have legal, international justification to strike, but the administration should provide that.

I can't believe I am even defending either Bush or Obama on foreign policy. Both were as bad as Trump. One thing I was hopeful for with Trump's win was that he'd actually get us out of the Middle East. Instead he's sucking us further in.


Another top terrorist killed without a single US service man or woman dieing and yet, people are still going to complain. As miserable a person Trump is, dude could cure cancer and people would still ***** about him not doing it soon enough. Next time we should just ignore the threat or just send them money. That seems to be ok for some.

The guy wasn't hiding. Sending a missile at him is not something particularly impressive. As you said, Bush or Obama could have done it. But they didn't. Why? I'm just asking for more information. My opinion could change.

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IseWolf22 said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.


The UN designated him a terrorist in the late 2000's so for me, that's enough right there. Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of American men and women he is responsible for killing or having killed. If bush or obama had done their job, this wouldn't be talked about now. They didn't take him out, Trump did and sadly, there are people out there finding yet another thing to ***** about.

Neither Bush or Obama were unfamiliar with ordering drone killings. Obama even ordered a strike on an American citizen without judicial review. For whatever reason, both administration's determined that the killing wasn't worth potential escalations with Iran and others. As I've said, if he was plotting an imminent attack, we would have legal, international justification to strike, but the administration should provide that.

I can't believe I am even defending either Bush or Obama on foreign policy. Both were as bad as Trump. One thing I was hopeful for with Trump's win was that he'd actually get us out of the Middle East. Instead he's sucking us further in.


Another top terrorist killed without a single US service man or woman dieing and yet, people are still going to complain. As miserable a person Trump is, dude could cure cancer and people would still ***** about him not doing it soon enough. Next time we should just ignore the threat or just send them money. That seems to be ok for some.

The guy wasn't hiding. Sending a missile at him is not something particularly impressive. As you said, Bush or Obama could have done it. But they didn't. Why? I'm just asking for more information. My opinion could change.




I'm not trying to change your option. Bush and Obama both should have but didn't. Thank God Trump did. At least that ******* terrorist won't send anymore of our men and women home in flag drapped coffens. I hope he goes and kills another 10 more. At some point, these terrorist countries have to realize there is a true red line, not an Obama bull**** redline or a bush we won the war redline. Trump at least drew the redline and stuck to it. Bush and Obama damn sure didn't
packgrad
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The guy wasn't even supposed to be in Iraq, but he wasn't hiding. Lol!
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packgrad said:

The guy wasn't even supposed to be in Iraq, but he wasn't hiding. Lol!
According to the Iraqi PM in a speech to the Iraqi parliament, Soleimani was delivering a response from the supreme leader to Saudi initiative to defuse tension.

He was supposed to be there, He was invited and he was carrying out a diplomatic function.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.


The UN designated him a terrorist in the late 2000's so for me, that's enough right there. Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of American men and women he is responsible for killing or having killed. If bush or obama had done their job, this wouldn't be talked about now. They didn't take him out, Trump did and sadly, there are people out there finding yet another thing to ***** about.

I was looking for this but couldn't find it. I've where to US designated the Quds force was a terrorist organization in 2011 but I haven't seen anything on Soleimani.

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Ground_Chuck said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.


The UN designated him a terrorist in the late 2000's so for me, that's enough right there. Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of American men and women he is responsible for killing or having killed. If bush or obama had done their job, this wouldn't be talked about now. They didn't take him out, Trump did and sadly, there are people out there finding yet another thing to ***** about.

I was looking for this but couldn't find it. I've where to US designated the Quds force was a terrorist organization in 2011 but I haven't seen anything on Soleimani.




He was designated a terrorist along with the terrorist organization he was the leader of. For ****s sake people. The US just killed a man that has killed hundreds of Americans and y'all want to ***** about it. Had we not killed him and he organized another attack, y'all would be yelling from the mountain tops that Trump should be removed from office for not killing him. Never in my lifetime have I seen a country so divided. It's purely pathetic.
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You said the UN designated him a terrorist and that was good enough for you. Did they?

What terrorists acts was he linked too?
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Ground_Chuck said:

You said the UN designated him a terrorist and that was good enough for you. Did they?

What terrorists acts was he linked too?


Doing a little more research, the UN sanctioned him and his terrorist organization in 2007. I guess since he was the leader of a TERRORIST organization, I just assumed he was a terrorist. Anyone who openly kills or organizes killings on Americans is a terrorist in my book and worthy of being killed. With that said, you don't have to feel that way. Maybe you would rather cash be paid and no redline. Dude was a terrible human being, glad he is dead and glad Trump did it. I've stated my problems with trump many times but I've also given the guy credit when it's due. He gave the order to take out a person who lead a terrorist organization, organized the attacks and killings of hundreds of Americans and was ready to do it again. How is this even something people on the left even want to argue about? One thing I know for sure. If the left has their panties in a bunch, trump done something right and they've got them bunched up tighter then dicks hatband right now.
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ok, so we are clear, the US designated, not the UN. People keep saying hundreds of Americans but no one can provide a link to any specific event. Only that Iran help terrorist groups.

Should we attach/invade Iran to get all the military leaders? Don't they all have american blood on their hands?

The reason no US president had assassinated Soleimeni in past isn't that they thought he was a great guy, Its that his death would cause more US deaths than it prevents.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Ground_Chuck said:

You said the UN designated him a terrorist and that was good enough for you. Did they?

What terrorists acts was he linked too?


Doing a little more research, the UN sanctioned him and his terrorist organization in 2007. I guess since he was the leader of a TERRORIST organization, I just assumed he was a terrorist. Anyone who openly kills or organizes killings on Americans is a terrorist in my book and worthy of being killed. With that said, you don't have to feel that way. Maybe you would rather cash be paid and no redline. Dude was a terrible human being, glad he is dead and glad Trump did it. I've stated my problems with trump many times but I've also given the guy credit when it's due. He gave the order to take out a person who lead a terrorist organization, organized the attacks and killings of hundreds of Americans and was ready to do it again. How is this even something people on the left even want to argue about? One thing I know for sure. If the left has their panties in a bunch, trump done something right and they've got them bunched up tighter then dicks hatband right now.
Starting another war in the middle east to own the libs.
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ok, so we are clear, the US designated, not the UN. People keep saying hundreds of Americans but no one can provide a link to any specific event. Only that Iran help terrorist groups.

Should we attach/invade Iran to get all the military leaders? Don't they all have american blood on their hands?

The reason no US president had assassinated Soleimeni in past isn't that they thought he was a great guy, Its that his death would cause more US deaths than it prevents.


You're entitled to your opinion as well as I am entitled to mine. When a known leader of a terrorist organization is taken out, I consider that a good day. Maybe you don't and that's fine. Hopefully the others out there get the message. If not, I hope they are turned into dust as well. Sitting back on our ass and sending money and drawing bull**** redlines never worked. Going into a country and starting a war line we did under bush in Iraq doesn't work. Maybe strategic attacks against terrorist LEADERS will. What I will never understand is how this is even remotely viewed as a bad thing by the left. It's rather mindblowing.
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Ground_Chuck said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Ground_Chuck said:

You said the UN designated him a terrorist and that was good enough for you. Did they?

What terrorists acts was he linked too?


Doing a little more research, the UN sanctioned him and his terrorist organization in 2007. I guess since he was the leader of a TERRORIST organization, I just assumed he was a terrorist. Anyone who openly kills or organizes killings on Americans is a terrorist in my book and worthy of being killed. With that said, you don't have to feel that way. Maybe you would rather cash be paid and no redline. Dude was a terrible human being, glad he is dead and glad Trump did it. I've stated my problems with trump many times but I've also given the guy credit when it's due. He gave the order to take out a person who lead a terrorist organization, organized the attacks and killings of hundreds of Americans and was ready to do it again. How is this even something people on the left even want to argue about? One thing I know for sure. If the left has their panties in a bunch, trump done something right and they've got them bunched up tighter then dicks hatband right now.
Starting another war in the middle east to own the libs.


Mince my words however you are fit to make you feel better. Whatever works for you buddy.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Ground_Chuck said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Ground_Chuck said:

You said the UN designated him a terrorist and that was good enough for you. Did they?

What terrorists acts was he linked too?


Doing a little more research, the UN sanctioned him and his terrorist organization in 2007. I guess since he was the leader of a TERRORIST organization, I just assumed he was a terrorist. Anyone who openly kills or organizes killings on Americans is a terrorist in my book and worthy of being killed. With that said, you don't have to feel that way. Maybe you would rather cash be paid and no redline. Dude was a terrible human being, glad he is dead and glad Trump did it. I've stated my problems with trump many times but I've also given the guy credit when it's due. He gave the order to take out a person who lead a terrorist organization, organized the attacks and killings of hundreds of Americans and was ready to do it again. How is this even something people on the left even want to argue about? One thing I know for sure. If the left has their panties in a bunch, trump done something right and they've got them bunched up tighter then dicks hatband right now.
Starting another war in the middle east to own the libs.


Mince my words however you are fit to make you feel better. Whatever works for you buddy.
I quoted you, not sure how that's mincing words. Left hates it, it must be good. You said that.
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We assassinated a foreign leader, who was on a diplomatic mission, in a separate foreign country, where he was an invited guess.

It doesn't matter if he is a good guy or terrible guy. Its not about him. Its about us. We are supposed to better than that.
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Ground_Chuck said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Ground_Chuck said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Ground_Chuck said:

You said the UN designated him a terrorist and that was good enough for you. Did they?

What terrorists acts was he linked too?


Doing a little more research, the UN sanctioned him and his terrorist organization in 2007. I guess since he was the leader of a TERRORIST organization, I just assumed he was a terrorist. Anyone who openly kills or organizes killings on Americans is a terrorist in my book and worthy of being killed. With that said, you don't have to feel that way. Maybe you would rather cash be paid and no redline. Dude was a terrible human being, glad he is dead and glad Trump did it. I've stated my problems with trump many times but I've also given the guy credit when it's due. He gave the order to take out a person who lead a terrorist organization, organized the attacks and killings of hundreds of Americans and was ready to do it again. How is this even something people on the left even want to argue about? One thing I know for sure. If the left has their panties in a bunch, trump done something right and they've got them bunched up tighter then dicks hatband right now.
Starting another war in the middle east to own the libs.


Mince my words however you are fit to make you feel better. Whatever works for you buddy.
I quoted you, not sure how that's mincing words. Left hates it, it must be good. You said that.


Next time you quote me, make sure you show me where I said "Starting another war in the middle east to own the libs."
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Ground_Chuck
11:07a


"We assassinated a foreign leader, who was on a diplomatic mission, in a separate foreign country, where he was an invited guess.

It doesn't matter if he is a good guy or terrible guy. Its not about him. Its about us. We are supposed to better than that."


Sure - the guy who was responsible for killing hundreds
of US soldiers & helping provide funding & expertise to
terrorist groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. He was there
trying to do good for the world on his diplomatic mission while
traveling with the leader of the Popular Mobilization Forces who
was also responsible for many American deaths in Iraq.

Dream on dude.

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ok, so we are clear, the US designated, not the UN. People keep saying hundreds of Americans but no one can provide a link to any specific event. Only that Iran help terrorist groups.

Should we attach/invade Iran to get all the military leaders? Don't they all have american blood on their hands?

The reason no US president had assassinated Soleimeni in past isn't that they thought he was a great guy, Its that his death would cause more US deaths than it prevents.


Here's a link to some of the deaths he's responsible for? Does that change your mind? I bet not.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/qassem-soleimani-was-responsible-for-the-deaths-of-hundreds-of-american-soldiers%3f_amp=true

Can you provide a link to how many more deaths this is going to cause versus prevent? People keep saying that but can't provide a link to specifically how many it will cause versus prevent.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

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IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

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Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.


The UN designated him a terrorist in the late 2000's so for me, that's enough right there. Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of American men and women he is responsible for killing or having killed. If bush or obama had done their job, this wouldn't be talked about now. They didn't take him out, Trump did and sadly, there are people out there finding yet another thing to ***** about.

Neither Bush or Obama were unfamiliar with ordering drone killings. Obama even ordered a strike on an American citizen without judicial review. For whatever reason, both administration's determined that the killing wasn't worth potential escalations with Iran and others. As I've said, if he was plotting an imminent attack, we would have legal, international justification to strike, but the administration should provide that.

I can't believe I am even defending either Bush or Obama on foreign policy. Both were as bad as Trump. One thing I was hopeful for with Trump's win was that he'd actually get us out of the Middle East. Instead he's sucking us further in.


Another top terrorist killed without a single US service man or woman dieing and yet, people are still going to complain. As miserable a person Trump is, dude could cure cancer and people would still ***** about him not doing it soon enough. Next time we should just ignore the threat or just send them money. That seems to be ok for some.

The guy wasn't hiding. Sending a missile at him is not something particularly impressive. As you said, Bush or Obama could have done it. But they didn't. Why? I'm just asking for more information. My opinion could change.




I'm not trying to change your option. Bush and Obama both should have but didn't. Thank God Trump did. At least that ******* terrorist won't send anymore of our men and women home in flag drapped coffens. I hope he goes and kills another 10 more. At some point, these terrorist countries have to realize there is a true red line, not an Obama bull**** redline or a bush we won the war redline. Trump at least drew the redline and stuck to it. Bush and Obama damn sure didn't

Bush and Obama carried out thousands of strikes against terrorist operations. Obama dropped over 20,000 bombs in the middle East in 2016 alone. (I wonder how many terrorists were killed vs. created?)
Anyways, the difference here is an actual state actor. Your post is basically saying that we should begin an assasination campaign against Iranian leadership. They are the ones directing Solemani. Sounds like you want to go to war with Iran.
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IseWolf22 said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

IseWolf22 said:

packgrad said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Well Trump approved the killing of another terrorist. Guess he should be impeached for that as well. Will the Dems claim abuse of power on this one?


It's frightening how against this action so many liberals are on social media. The calling it illegal is downright hilarious.

Curious to see what evidence we produce that he was plotting an attack against Americans. Killing a foreign citizen who is not ackowledged as a terrorist in his home country, or the country where the assassination took place is a big deal


Are you saying he wasn't a terrorist? This seems like a lot of wordplay to get out of saying Trump did a good thing by killing a bad guy.

Neither his home country nor the country he was killed in considered him a terrorist. Internationally there is no consensus, like there was with Osama or Bagdhadi. Which is why it would be good for the government to present evidence he was planning an attack on Americans.
While he is a terrorist from the American perspective, this is a clear act of aggression in the eyes of Iran. they and many others will consider this a extra-judicial assassination. It will have ripple effects thought the region.
Basically I'm saying that I hope we thought this through or really did prevent an attack.


The UN designated him a terrorist in the late 2000's so for me, that's enough right there. Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of American men and women he is responsible for killing or having killed. If bush or obama had done their job, this wouldn't be talked about now. They didn't take him out, Trump did and sadly, there are people out there finding yet another thing to ***** about.

Neither Bush or Obama were unfamiliar with ordering drone killings. Obama even ordered a strike on an American citizen without judicial review. For whatever reason, both administration's determined that the killing wasn't worth potential escalations with Iran and others. As I've said, if he was plotting an imminent attack, we would have legal, international justification to strike, but the administration should provide that.

I can't believe I am even defending either Bush or Obama on foreign policy. Both were as bad as Trump. One thing I was hopeful for with Trump's win was that he'd actually get us out of the Middle East. Instead he's sucking us further in.


Another top terrorist killed without a single US service man or woman dieing and yet, people are still going to complain. As miserable a person Trump is, dude could cure cancer and people would still ***** about him not doing it soon enough. Next time we should just ignore the threat or just send them money. That seems to be ok for some.

The guy wasn't hiding. Sending a missile at him is not something particularly impressive. As you said, Bush or Obama could have done it. But they didn't. Why? I'm just asking for more information. My opinion could change.




I'm not trying to change your option. Bush and Obama both should have but didn't. Thank God Trump did. At least that ******* terrorist won't send anymore of our men and women home in flag drapped coffens. I hope he goes and kills another 10 more. At some point, these terrorist countries have to realize there is a true red line, not an Obama bull**** redline or a bush we won the war redline. Trump at least drew the redline and stuck to it. Bush and Obama damn sure didn't

Bush and Obama carried out thousands of strikes against terrorist operations. Obama dropped over 20,000 bombs in the middle East in 2016 alone. (I wonder how many terrorists were killed vs. created?)
Anyways, the difference here is an actual state actor. Your post is basically saying that we should begin an assasination campaign against Iranian leadership. They are the ones directing Solemani. Sounds like you want to go to war with Iran.


Not what my post is saying but please, continue to be upset over the death of a man who killed hundreds of Americans just because you don't like trump.
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And you can continue to ignore everything I've said. You clearly don't want to engage on a nuanced issue. The left are not the only people who are concerned about this action. I am pretty damn far away from being a liberal.
 
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