Rob McLamb said:

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ClePack said:

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Nairo said:

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This is a very cynical take, but we're going to spend $15MM basically for half a turf field, a players lounge and a couple of picnic tables in th outfield, and still be in the bottom third of the league as far as facilities. I'm hopeful we're holding something back for the new coach, whenever that time comes. Otherwise it's going to be a tough job to fill and expect any better results than we've gotten.

ClePack said:

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WolfpackJack69 said:

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ClePack said:

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Nairo said:

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I don't know about y'all but I'm sick and tired of losing to UNC in baseball. Those pansy asses should not have a better program than NC State. It's a blue collar and analytical sport, which are two of our defining characteristics as a university.

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Agreed. Big time. NC state baseball is probably my favorite team on campus, and these last 2 hears have been pitiful. Aside from that 2021 sweep, UNC has absolutely owned us. I think the Preston palmiero team was the last to beat UNC in a series?

Has a lot to do with them actually caring about baseball though. Look at their stadium. Look at their facilities.

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Stadium and facilities are material things. Measurable things if you will. This team lacks the unmeasurable things. Heart, determination, will to win and passion. Just my .02

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We can't recruit with the big boys without those shiny toys.

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I see nothing wrong with your take. That's our future, as it stands.

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When Doak is completely renovated, who will NC State have better facilities than?

I can give two for sure, Duke and Notre Dame. The former won the 2021 ACC title. The latter had the best ACC regular season record in 2021 and reached the CWS in 2022.

Maybe Wake Forest too? They are absolutely loaded this season.

I would love to hear from folks here as to what other schools that they think will have a park worse than Doak. This is an honest question, especially for those who have traveled to see NC State play at some of those places.

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CLTWolf said:

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Brigand said:

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DecaturWolf said:

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You win with people and not facilities.

Sincerely,
Braden Holloway

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I don't care if we make a change or not, but facilities is always a fallback argument when we don't do well, not just in this sport.

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Doesn't make it not reality

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It is reality, unfortunately. Especially where it's related to pitching prospects. I don't think there's any coincidence that Wake has seen a huge jump in their pitching performance and recruiting since they partnered with Baptist hospital and opened their Pitching Lab in 2019. Top arms that go to college want stuff like this. We don't have it so we're not getting the top arms on campus. I'm not talking about the Landen Maroudis types that commit and have zero chance at coming to school. I'm talking about Rhett Lowder barely touching 90 out of HS and now he sit at 93-96. Seth Keener is a mid 90s guy now and wasn't that in HS. Their "Lab" helped them land two stud transfers as well in Massey and Sullivan. Their closer, Minacci, pumps 94-97. We need us one of them there "Labs". ha

I know we're supposed to be building our very own Pitching Lab, let's hope it's one of the first things we build.

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Daviewolf83 said:

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Rob McLamb said:

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ClePack said:

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Nairo said:

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This is a very cynical take, but we're going to spend $15MM basically for half a turf field, a players lounge and a couple of picnic tables in th outfield, and still be in the bottom third of the league as far as facilities. I'm hopeful we're holding something back for the new coach, whenever that time comes. Otherwise it's going to be a tough job to fill and expect any better results than we've gotten.

ClePack said:

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WolfpackJack69 said:

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ClePack said:

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Nairo said:

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I don't know about y'all but I'm sick and tired of losing to UNC in baseball. Those pansy asses should not have a better program than NC State. It's a blue collar and analytical sport, which are two of our defining characteristics as a university.

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Agreed. Big time. NC state baseball is probably my favorite team on campus, and these last 2 hears have been pitiful. Aside from that 2021 sweep, UNC has absolutely owned us. I think the Preston palmiero team was the last to beat UNC in a series?

Has a lot to do with them actually caring about baseball though. Look at their stadium. Look at their facilities.

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Stadium and facilities are material things. Measurable things if you will. This team lacks the unmeasurable things. Heart, determination, will to win and passion. Just my .02

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We can't recruit with the big boys without those shiny toys.

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I see nothing wrong with your take. That's our future, as it stands.

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When Doak is completely renovated, who will NC State have better facilities than?

I can give two for sure, Duke and Notre Dame. The former won the 2021 ACC title. The latter had the best ACC regular season record in 2021 and reached the CWS in 2022.

Maybe Wake Forest too? They are absolutely loaded this season.

I would love to hear from folks here as to what other schools that they think will have a park worse than Doak. This is an honest question, especially for those who have traveled to see NC State play at some of those places.

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After the renovations, Doak will still be above Duke and Notre Dame. I think all other stadiums are even or better. I have personally seen UVA, VaTech, Wake, UNC, FSU, Duke, Louisville, and Georgia Tech's stadiums.

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Rob McLamb said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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Rob McLamb said:

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ClePack said:

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Nairo said:

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This is a very cynical take, but we're going to spend $15MM basically for half a turf field, a players lounge and a couple of picnic tables in th outfield, and still be in the bottom third of the league as far as facilities. I'm hopeful we're holding something back for the new coach, whenever that time comes. Otherwise it's going to be a tough job to fill and expect any better results than we've gotten.

ClePack said:

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WolfpackJack69 said:

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ClePack said:

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Nairo said:

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I don't know about y'all but I'm sick and tired of losing to UNC in baseball. Those pansy asses should not have a better program than NC State. It's a blue collar and analytical sport, which are two of our defining characteristics as a university.

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Agreed. Big time. NC state baseball is probably my favorite team on campus, and these last 2 hears have been pitiful. Aside from that 2021 sweep, UNC has absolutely owned us. I think the Preston palmiero team was the last to beat UNC in a series?

Has a lot to do with them actually caring about baseball though. Look at their stadium. Look at their facilities.

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Stadium and facilities are material things. Measurable things if you will. This team lacks the unmeasurable things. Heart, determination, will to win and passion. Just my .02

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We can't recruit with the big boys without those shiny toys.

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I see nothing wrong with your take. That's our future, as it stands.

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When Doak is completely renovated, who will NC State have better facilities than?

I can give two for sure, Duke and Notre Dame. The former won the 2021 ACC title. The latter had the best ACC regular season record in 2021 and reached the CWS in 2022.

Maybe Wake Forest too? They are absolutely loaded this season.

I would love to hear from folks here as to what other schools that they think will have a park worse than Doak. This is an honest question, especially for those who have traveled to see NC State play at some of those places.

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After the renovations, Doak will still be above Duke and Notre Dame. I think all other stadiums are even or better. I have personally seen UVA, VaTech, Wake, UNC, FSU, Duke, Louisville, and Georgia Tech's stadiums.

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You rate Wake as having a better stadium? Even after renovations?

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Daviewolf83 said:

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Rob McLamb said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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Rob McLamb said:

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ClePack said:

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Nairo said:

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This is a very cynical take, but we're going to spend $15MM basically for half a turf field, a players lounge and a couple of picnic tables in th outfield, and still be in the bottom third of the league as far as facilities. I'm hopeful we're holding something back for the new coach, whenever that time comes. Otherwise it's going to be a tough job to fill and expect any better results than we've gotten.

ClePack said:

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WolfpackJack69 said:

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ClePack said:

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Nairo said:

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I don't know about y'all but I'm sick and tired of losing to UNC in baseball. Those pansy asses should not have a better program than NC State. It's a blue collar and analytical sport, which are two of our defining characteristics as a university.

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Agreed. Big time. NC state baseball is probably my favorite team on campus, and these last 2 hears have been pitiful. Aside from that 2021 sweep, UNC has absolutely owned us. I think the Preston palmiero team was the last to beat UNC in a series?

Has a lot to do with them actually caring about baseball though. Look at their stadium. Look at their facilities.

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Stadium and facilities are material things. Measurable things if you will. This team lacks the unmeasurable things. Heart, determination, will to win and passion. Just my .02

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We can't recruit with the big boys without those shiny toys.

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I see nothing wrong with your take. That's our future, as it stands.

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When Doak is completely renovated, who will NC State have better facilities than?

I can give two for sure, Duke and Notre Dame. The former won the 2021 ACC title. The latter had the best ACC regular season record in 2021 and reached the CWS in 2022.

Maybe Wake Forest too? They are absolutely loaded this season.

I would love to hear from folks here as to what other schools that they think will have a park worse than Doak. This is an honest question, especially for those who have traveled to see NC State play at some of those places.

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After the renovations, Doak will still be above Duke and Notre Dame. I think all other stadiums are even or better. I have personally seen UVA, VaTech, Wake, UNC, FSU, Duke, Louisville, and Georgia Tech's stadiums.

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You rate Wake as having a better stadium? Even after renovations?

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Yes I would. Unless something has changed, I have not seen State planning to cover any portion the fan seating area. This is just one example. Wake has other stadium improvements planned, as do several other ACC schools.

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