DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
tau06 said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
This. In general any bunt, in basically any situation is a terrible call. You should never bunt. Ever. It's just giving outs away
Kmcpack said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
We scored 2 in the first in the same situation same batter and everything. But you have to execute.
I don't like the strategy and never will like the strategy. Cozart is hitting over .340 let him hit. It wasn't a bad bunt, but you just give outs away. Yes it worked in the first inning so your 1 for 3 this weekend. Cozart is hitting better than that.Kmcpack said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
We scored 2 in the first in the same situation same batter and everything. But you have to execute.
Well, that's a stretch b/c if he moves the runners over with the bunt the entire situation changes so you can't (or you can, I guess) assume the same outcome happens when the entire situation is now different. Makes for a fun argument tho.kmb717 said:tau06 said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
This. In general any bunt, in basically any situation is a terrible call. You should never bunt. Ever. It's just giving outs away
Bunting while you are losing is just a terrible strategy. Outs are precious and you just willingly gave one away with your 3 hole hitter.
And guess what, even if it was a good bunt we still wouldn't have scored after a pop out and ground out.
Glasswolf said:
I have to agree with Andrew Sanders that we just seem to not have a sense of urgency to get a sweep
CLTWolf said:Well, that's a stretch b/c if he moves the runners over with the bunt the entire situation changes so you can't (or you can, I guess) assume the same outcome happens when the entire situation is now different. Makes for a fun argument tho.kmb717 said:tau06 said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
This. In general any bunt, in basically any situation is a terrible call. You should never bunt. Ever. It's just giving outs away
Bunting while you are losing is just a terrible strategy. Outs are precious and you just willingly gave one away with your 3 hole hitter.
And guess what, even if it was a good bunt we still wouldn't have scored after a pop out and ground out.
Cozart hasn't put good wood on anything today. He's also grounded out twice and in his last AB against that lil lefty, he looked silly on 3 straight breaking balls. Wasn't even close. I'm not a huge fan of bunting but it's a situational move and in that situation, I'm fine with it. Make the play and maybe it's a different outcome.kmb717 said:CLTWolf said:Well, that's a stretch b/c if he moves the runners over with the bunt the entire situation changes so you can't (or you can, I guess) assume the same outcome happens when the entire situation is now different. Makes for a fun argument tho.kmb717 said:tau06 said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
This. In general any bunt, in basically any situation is a terrible call. You should never bunt. Ever. It's just giving outs away
Bunting while you are losing is just a terrible strategy. Outs are precious and you just willingly gave one away with your 3 hole hitter.
And guess what, even if it was a good bunt we still wouldn't have scored after a pop out and ground out.
Of course you can't assume the same two plays would have happened after but I'd just rather have 3 chances to get a hit than 1 chance for a productive out.
CLTWolf said:Cozart hasn't put good wood on anything today. He's also grounded out twice and in his last AB against that lil lefty, he looked silly on 3 straight breaking balls. Wasn't even close. I'm not a huge fan of bunting but it's a situational move and in that situation, I'm fine with it. Make the play and maybe it's a different outcome.kmb717 said:CLTWolf said:Well, that's a stretch b/c if he moves the runners over with the bunt the entire situation changes so you can't (or you can, I guess) assume the same outcome happens when the entire situation is now different. Makes for a fun argument tho.kmb717 said:tau06 said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
This. In general any bunt, in basically any situation is a terrible call. You should never bunt. Ever. It's just giving outs away
Bunting while you are losing is just a terrible strategy. Outs are precious and you just willingly gave one away with your 3 hole hitter.
And guess what, even if it was a good bunt we still wouldn't have scored after a pop out and ground out.
Of course you can't assume the same two plays would have happened after but I'd just rather have 3 chances to get a hit than 1 chance for a productive out.
But who cares b/c Serrano set one flying! BOOM!
Exactly. It did not work for NC State in the first inning of the 2015 ACC Championship Game against FSU, and I know plenty of folks who are still upset about it,Alex Gee said:
The bunt vs no bunt is the same as the conversation after a failed 4th down conversion. "Should've thrown the ball" "Should've run a sneak" "Why were we in the shotgun" "Why were we under center"
If it works, it's cool. If it doesn't, it's easy to criticize.
Welcome to sports. This might be post of the dayAlex Gee said:
The bunt vs no bunt is the same as the conversation after a failed 4th down conversion. "Should've thrown the ball" "Should've run a sneak" "Why were we in the shotgun" "Why were we under center"
If it works, it's cool. If it doesn't, it's easy to criticize.
Alex Gee said:
The bunt vs no bunt is the same as the conversation after a failed 4th down conversion. "Should've thrown the ball" "Should've run a sneak" "Why were we in the shotgun" "Why were we under center"
If it works, it's cool. If it doesn't, it's easy to criticize.
He definitely fielded his position very well on that one. Too bad he wasn't a righty pitcher b/c bases would've been loaded, as a righty ain't making that play.kmb717 said:CLTWolf said:Cozart hasn't put good wood on anything today. He's also grounded out twice and in his last AB against that lil lefty, he looked silly on 3 straight breaking balls. Wasn't even close. I'm not a huge fan of bunting but it's a situational move and in that situation, I'm fine with it. Make the play and maybe it's a different outcome.kmb717 said:CLTWolf said:Well, that's a stretch b/c if he moves the runners over with the bunt the entire situation changes so you can't (or you can, I guess) assume the same outcome happens when the entire situation is now different. Makes for a fun argument tho.kmb717 said:tau06 said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Disagree. Let your number 3 hitter hit. You only have 9 outs left and you give them one. Two games in a row it has not worked.
This. In general any bunt, in basically any situation is a terrible call. You should never bunt. Ever. It's just giving outs away
Bunting while you are losing is just a terrible strategy. Outs are precious and you just willingly gave one away with your 3 hole hitter.
And guess what, even if it was a good bunt we still wouldn't have scored after a pop out and ground out.
Of course you can't assume the same two plays would have happened after but I'd just rather have 3 chances to get a hit than 1 chance for a productive out.
But who cares b/c Serrano set one flying! BOOM!
Definitely agree that Cozart looked pretty bad against Armstrong. Also gotta tip your cap to Armstrong on his fielding. If he doesn't make a perfect scoop and fire to 3rd then Marcy is gonna easily be safe at 3rd.
I think I was at that game. It was stupid then and it's still stupid.Rob McLamb said:Exactly. It did not work for NC State in the first inning of the 2015 ACC Championship Game against FSU, and I know plenty of folks who are still upset about it,Alex Gee said:
The bunt vs no bunt is the same as the conversation after a failed 4th down conversion. "Should've thrown the ball" "Should've run a sneak" "Why were we in the shotgun" "Why were we under center"
If it works, it's cool. If it doesn't, it's easy to criticize.
It was the 2015 ACC Championship in Durham. NC State curb-stomped Virginia en route to the final, and the Cavaliers would go on to win the national title. UVa went 15-15 in the ACC that season.DrummerboyWolf said:I think I was at that game. It was stupid then and it's still stupid.Rob McLamb said:Exactly. It did not work for NC State in the first inning of the 2015 ACC Championship Game against FSU, and I know plenty of folks who are still upset about it,Alex Gee said:
The bunt vs no bunt is the same as the conversation after a failed 4th down conversion. "Should've thrown the ball" "Should've run a sneak" "Why were we in the shotgun" "Why were we under center"
If it works, it's cool. If it doesn't, it's easy to criticize.
Totally different situation than it was two innings ago. You couldn't end the game in the 7th whereas you can now.Alex Gee said:
Just going to get out in front of this: A walk off after a sac bunt would be poetic after all the discourse today.
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