Some team(s) get screwed every year regardless of sport. It's just getting old that seems to be us included every year. Baseball has been handed the big **** you twice within a 12 month period.James Henderson said:I agree, State was in by everyone who follows this but you when you have 8-10 teams cases can be made for someone ends up getting screwed.wirewolf said:James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
Brother, this is the equivalent of an 8 seed being left out of the basketball tournament. We were in by every person who follows this..
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James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
He can post mean tweets and pound his fist on his imaginary tweeter desk. That's what. Lol
Makes dudes like M_A and bagman feel better about themselves.
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James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
Milk the situation for positive press and marketing. It's simple. But you can't do that being quiet.
PKAwolfpacker said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
Milk the situation for positive press and marketing. It's simple. But you can't do that being quiet.
We're already getting that from the baseball community. He doesn't even have to come across as a crybaby at all.
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James Henderson said:Apparently we were.metcalfmafia said:James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
We weren't on the bubble.
And Bridgeport wasn't a draw we should be worried about lol
James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
He should be able to talk to the selection committees and get concrete data passed to the affected personnel on the rationale around the decision
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I agree, State definitely got screwed and this will go down as a non-NCAA appearance. A Joke.wilmwolf80 said:Glasswolf said:After I talked with Aaron Fitt and Kendal Rodgers this week they both assured me we weren't on the "bubble"James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
Exactly. We are all salty because we are fans and that's to be expected, but those guys don't have any vested interest in us being in the field. They are looking at the sport from 10,000 feet, and they think we got screwed. Outside of some UNC themed accounts, pretty much every one associated with college baseball thinks we got screwed here. Yeah, win more games and it doesn't matter, that's always the case, but what happened today was wrong.
James Henderson said:I agree, State was in by everyone who follows this but you when you have 8-10 teams cases can be made for someone ends up getting screwed.wirewolf said:James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
Brother, this is the equivalent of an 8 seed being left out of the basketball tournament. We were in by every person who follows this..
When there is no transparency to the process, groups of men can make nonsensical decisions without consequence. You can look at a single stat in a vacuum to make a justification, but looking at everything holistically, we were at the top of those last 10 in. They got it wrong, simple as that.
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Eh, I'm not touching that one. I know I'm in the minority in that one.Glasswolf said:Some team(s) get screwed every year regardless of sport. It's just getting old that seems to be us included every year. Baseball has been handed the big **** you twice within a 12 month period.James Henderson said:I agree, State was in by everyone who follows this but you when you have 8-10 teams cases can be made for someone ends up getting screwed.wirewolf said:James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
Brother, this is the equivalent of an 8 seed being left out of the basketball tournament. We were in by every person who follows this..
State def. got screwed today by all the metrics. Did the selection committee say why no for State?
James Henderson said:I agree, State definitely got screwed and this will go down as a non-NCAA appearance. A Joke.wilmwolf80 said:Glasswolf said:After I talked with Aaron Fitt and Kendal Rodgers this week they both assured me we weren't on the "bubble"James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
Exactly. We are all salty because we are fans and that's to be expected, but those guys don't have any vested interest in us being in the field. They are looking at the sport from 10,000 feet, and they think we got screwed. Outside of some UNC themed accounts, pretty much every one associated with college baseball thinks we got screwed here. Yeah, win more games and it doesn't matter, that's always the case, but what happened today was wrong.
And your usual suspects and "fans" will leach off of it to claim that Avent has never been successful and "didn't even" make the tournament in 2022. Tiring
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But what is that changing/impacting now?Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
He should be able to talk to the selection committees and get concrete data passed to the affected personnel on the rationale around the decision
PKAwolfpacker said:wilmwolf80 said:PKAwolfpacker said:wilmwolf80 said:CLTWolf said:
Oh look. The typical idiots turning this into a "Boo thing". Go figure.
I mean, I don't know what he's supposed to do. Is he going to send enough mean tweets that the committee is going to change their minds? The NCAA deserves one hundred percent of our anger here.
It's the optics of the situation. You should get in front of every camera and microphone you find, create the narrative, and market the **** out of this program and how "NC state fights".
But Boo won't do that. He will be silent and unheard/unseen and it will be another missed opportunity, making the situation even more disgraceful.
Nothing Boo does or doesn't do with regards to this snub will be disgraceful. It may not be the response you think you want, but it isn't disgraceful.
No, doing nothing would be disgraceful. You are just dumb and don't understand logic.
Man, that cut deep. I've dealt with a lot of adversity in my life, but being called dumb by a stranger on the internet might be too much to overcome. I'm gonna pour a tall one and reflect on this moment.
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James Henderson said:But what is that changing/impacting now?Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
He should be able to talk to the selection committees and get concrete data passed to the affected personnel on the rationale around the decision
Ideally, the future. Evidenty State, State fans, State admin, and the NCAA are on completely different wave lengths right now
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AgreeCloudPack said:James Henderson said:Apparently we were.metcalfmafia said:James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
We weren't on the bubble.
And Bridgeport wasn't a draw we should be worried about lol
wilmwolf80 said:PKAwolfpacker said:wilmwolf80 said:PKAwolfpacker said:wilmwolf80 said:CLTWolf said:
Oh look. The typical idiots turning this into a "Boo thing". Go figure.
I mean, I don't know what he's supposed to do. Is he going to send enough mean tweets that the committee is going to change their minds? The NCAA deserves one hundred percent of our anger here.
It's the optics of the situation. You should get in front of every camera and microphone you find, create the narrative, and market the **** out of this program and how "NC state fights".
But Boo won't do that. He will be silent and unheard/unseen and it will be another missed opportunity, making the situation even more disgraceful.
Nothing Boo does or doesn't do with regards to this snub will be disgraceful. It may not be the response you think you want, but it isn't disgraceful.
No, doing nothing would be disgraceful. You are just dumb and don't understand logic.
Man, that cut deep. I've dealt with a lot of adversity in my life, but being called dumb by a stranger on the internet might be too much to overcome. I'm gonna pour a tall one and reflect on this moment.
Rest assured Wilm that those PKA folks are known as top notch campus citizens
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Is this a new precedent? Have teams in the past been left out with a similar ACC record to NC State or a similar RPI?Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:But what is that changing/impacting now?Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
He should be able to talk to the selection committees and get concrete data passed to the affected personnel on the rationale around the decision
Ideally, the future. Evidenty State, State fans, State admin, and the NCAA are on completely different wave lengths right now
There actually isnt an excuse for this one. I do think Avent should schedule better but this isnt like that Keatts year where he disqualified himself by doing the one thing the Committee has proven they will punish year after year
The NCAA legitimately just screwed us over for a grudge. All that playing nice **** sure worked out I guess
The NCAA legitimately just screwed us over for a grudge. All that playing nice **** sure worked out I guess
"It's ACC Championship or bust, quite honestly"
James Henderson said:Eh, I'm not touching that one. I know I'm in the minority in that one.Glasswolf said:Some team(s) get screwed every year regardless of sport. It's just getting old that seems to be us included every year. Baseball has been handed the big **** you twice within a 12 month period.James Henderson said:I agree, State was in by everyone who follows this but you when you have 8-10 teams cases can be made for someone ends up getting screwed.wirewolf said:James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
Brother, this is the equivalent of an 8 seed being left out of the basketball tournament. We were in by every person who follows this..
State def. got screwed today by all the metrics. Did the selection committee say why no for State?
Yeah bc of our 4 series wins in the league, only two were in the field. Ole Miss also had four series victories and 2 were against LSU and one other team that's in the field of 64.
We also games games against Coastal and ND cancelled due to weather. Was the first question asked of the Buddie guy after the field was announced.
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wilmwolf80 said:Wolfpack said:NCAA Selection Chair Mike Buddie says the RPI is a good tool, but he prefers going much, much deeper into a team’s resume than just that.
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They don't even hide that they're intrinsically biasing, lol
Isn't RPI a tool specifically designed to go deeper into a team's resume? Like I said earlier, they use metrics to justify their decisions as they see fit. For every metic that showed we were below ole Miss, there were two that showed us above. I hate to link to another site, but they did good job breaking down a lot of metrics.
https://www.on3.com/teams/nc-state-wolfpack/news/nc-state-baseball-ncaa-tournament-snub/
Correct. They use RPI when it helps strengthen their argument, but then dismiss it as some random metric in situations they don't support their decisions.
Same **** with basketball. Remember when NET rankings were gonna solve all the controversy about bubble teams?? Then they basically threw it out the window in YEAR ONE and left us out of the tourney.
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"It's ACC Championship or bust, quite honestly"
He named two posters by name. Then called them idiots.Glasswolf said:Because he hasn't named a specific poster and he's also referring to social media in generalwaxhaw said:I will never understand why you are allowed to constantly attack other posters with no ramifications.CLTWolf said:
Oh look. The typical idiots turning this into a "Boo thing". Go figure.
Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:I agree, State definitely got screwed and this will go down as a non-NCAA appearance. A Joke.wilmwolf80 said:Glasswolf said:After I talked with Aaron Fitt and Kendal Rodgers this week they both assured me we weren't on the "bubble"James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
Exactly. We are all salty because we are fans and that's to be expected, but those guys don't have any vested interest in us being in the field. They are looking at the sport from 10,000 feet, and they think we got screwed. Outside of some UNC themed accounts, pretty much every one associated with college baseball thinks we got screwed here. Yeah, win more games and it doesn't matter, that's always the case, but what happened today was wrong.
And your usual suspects and "fans" will leach off of it to claim that Avent has never been successful and "didn't even" make the tournament in 2022. Tiring
So now we can count KK year that he should have got in…Just checking for scoring purposes..
James Henderson said:Is this a new precedent? Have teams in the past been left out with a similar ACC record to NC State or a similar RPI?Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:But what is that changing/impacting now?Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
He should be able to talk to the selection committees and get concrete data passed to the affected personnel on the rationale around the decision
Ideally, the future. Evidenty State, State fans, State admin, and the NCAA are on completely different wave lengths right now
I believe State's RPI may be the lowest to get turned away but I haven't dug through every single year of NCAA/RPI existence. it's actually this ambiguity I think the NCAA is responsible for answering for. Why are there no concrete rankings? What is the feel test? Situation in general is just silly bc the NCAA made it be silly
You know which 3 sides get relegated from the EPL? The bottom 3. Because they scored the least points. Not hard
waxhaw said:He named two posters by name. Then called them idiots.Glasswolf said:Because he hasn't named a specific poster and he's also referring to social media in generalwaxhaw said:I will never understand why you are allowed to constantly attack other posters with no ramifications.CLTWolf said:
Oh look. The typical idiots turning this into a "Boo thing". Go figure.
Do I need to go find your post where you called me a name? Let's not be hypocrites buddy. Lol
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SexualChocolate said:Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:I agree, State definitely got screwed and this will go down as a non-NCAA appearance. A Joke.wilmwolf80 said:Glasswolf said:After I talked with Aaron Fitt and Kendal Rodgers this week they both assured me we weren't on the "bubble"James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
Exactly. We are all salty because we are fans and that's to be expected, but those guys don't have any vested interest in us being in the field. They are looking at the sport from 10,000 feet, and they think we got screwed. Outside of some UNC themed accounts, pretty much every one associated with college baseball thinks we got screwed here. Yeah, win more games and it doesn't matter, that's always the case, but what happened today was wrong.
And your usual suspects and "fans" will leach off of it to claim that Avent has never been successful and "didn't even" make the tournament in 2022. Tiring
So now we can count KK year that he should have got in…Just checking for scoring purposes..
Just give me the data. Prove they weren't meant to be in. Then OK, we can all move on. These committees create biases
CLTWolf said:PKAwolfpacker said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
Milk the situation for positive press and marketing. It's simple. But you can't do that being quiet.
We're already getting that from the baseball community. He doesn't even have to come across as a crybaby at all.
Did Bob Knight come across as a crybaby or a legendary badass?
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I think what probably hurt State was ending the season losing 5 of 6 home games to Wake/UNC.CLTWolf said:James Henderson said:Eh, I'm not touching that one. I know I'm in the minority in that one.Glasswolf said:Some team(s) get screwed every year regardless of sport. It's just getting old that seems to be us included every year. Baseball has been handed the big **** you twice within a 12 month period.James Henderson said:I agree, State was in by everyone who follows this but you when you have 8-10 teams cases can be made for someone ends up getting screwed.wirewolf said:James Henderson said:
Brutal; but this is the crap that happens when you are on the bubble. You leave it in the hands of a committee where percentages come into play.
Brother, this is the equivalent of an 8 seed being left out of the basketball tournament. We were in by every person who follows this..
State def. got screwed today by all the metrics. Did the selection committee say why no for State?
Yeah bc of our 4 series wins in the league, only two were in the field. Ole Miss also had four series victories and 2 were against LSU and one other team that's in the field of 64.
We also games games against Coastal and ND cancelled due to weather. Was the first question asked of the Buddie guy after the field was announced.
CLTWolf said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
He can post mean tweets and pound his fist on his imaginary tweeter desk. That's what. Lol
Makes dudes like M_A and bagman feel better about themselves.
Honestly, it does get a little old to see every single thread on all the boards get turned into this. You tell other people to just block/ignore you so why don't you do the same? There's been plenty of times I've logged in and thought there was some big news because the number of new posts, but it's just a two page back and forth between you and someone else.
It's like you just see Henderson's takes (Boo, KK) and aggressively and obnoxiously defend them.
I will play devils advocate here real quick. We basically got no punishment for the DSJ stuff, however we squandered that with a terrible team on the court.
I'm still mad about this, just scrambling mentally to find instances where we weren't totally screwed over by the NCAA.
I'm still mad about this, just scrambling mentally to find instances where we weren't totally screwed over by the NCAA.
Criminal.
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PKAwolfpacker said:CLTWolf said:PKAwolfpacker said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
Milk the situation for positive press and marketing. It's simple. But you can't do that being quiet.
We're already getting that from the baseball community. He doesn't even have to come across as a crybaby at all.
Did Bob Knight come across as a crybaby or a legendary badass?
Bob Knight? History is not and will not be kind to that crazy man. Poor example, IMO.
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That's the nature of these committees and why IMO it is too subjective probably b/c you can't find one model to rely on and use to pick the teams.Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:Is this a new precedent? Have teams in the past been left out with a similar ACC record to NC State or a similar RPI?Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:But what is that changing/impacting now?Wolfpack said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
He should be able to talk to the selection committees and get concrete data passed to the affected personnel on the rationale around the decision
Ideally, the future. Evidenty State, State fans, State admin, and the NCAA are on completely different wave lengths right now
I believe State's RPI may be the lowest to get turned away but I haven't dug through every single year of NCAA/RPI existence. it's actually this ambiguity I think the NCAA is responsible for answering for. Why are there no concrete rankings? What is the feel test? Situation in general is just silly bc the NCAA made it be silly
You know which 3 sides get relegated from the EPL? The bottom 3. Because they scored the least points. Not hard
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Last year State was sent to Ruston. That was pretty good!Borowolf10 said:
I will play devils advocate here real quick. We basically got no punishment for the DSJ stuff, however we squandered that with a terrible team on the court.
I'm still mad about this, just scrambling mentally to find instances where we weren't totally screwed over by the NCAA.
NashvillePackFan said:CLTWolf said:James Henderson said:I never get this.SportManagementEngineer said:
I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.
It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
What can Boo do?
He can post mean tweets and pound his fist on his imaginary tweeter desk. That's what. Lol
Makes dudes like M_A and bagman feel better about themselves.
Honestly, it does get a little old to see every single thread on all the boards get turned into this. You tell other people to just block/ignore you so why don't you do the same? There's been plenty of times I've logged in and thought there was some big news because the number of new posts, but it's just a two page back and forth between you and someone else.
It's like you just see Henderson's takes (Boo, KK) and aggressively and obnoxiously defend them.
Lol. If you're so triggered, ignore me.
Also, Henderson and I completely disagree about Russ Wilson so, sorry buddy.
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