Basketball recruiting and transfers

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warlords86
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Westwolf said:

^Good point about Keatts, but I was thinking more about Hayes wanting to leave.
Where does he get enough Wing minutes with Terquavion, Morsell, Allen, and the new guy Thomas coming in? Breon Pass is a better point guard, and then the stud is coming the next year at that spot anyway?
Hayes has nice lift on his floater in the lane, which is enough to score in high school, but otherwise he lacks the ball handling skills, passing skills, vision, and decision making to excel in the ACC. Plus, his attitude is straight garbage.
What has he demonstrated that shows he has a bad attitude? Are you reading his body language, or do you know him? Really just curious. I've seen what appears to be nonchalance, but that is me looking in from the outside. I don't really know what his attitude is.
Westwolf
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Valid points.
I would argue that nonchalance while your teammates are fighting tooth and nail to achieve their goals, ones they've had since childhood, is a relatively bad attitude.
Acb0110
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Westwolf said:

If we get hot from 3, then we look good for awhile. Otherwise we look like an AAU team.

We are 2-6 in a weak ACC, will not make the NCAAT, and could finish DFL in the conference. And we need to "rebuild" next year just to match this level of failure.

Could anyone confidently identify more than two starters on next year's team?

Do any of our recruiting gurus have any idea who we are looking at that might possibly match the impact of Hellems and Seabron? Anyone at all?

$100 to the first person to predict who our starting point guard will be next year?


We will be brining in atleast 5 transfers this off-season. Pass will play point. As will Smith. I know Seabron is on some draft boards as late first rounder, but unless he shows improvement shooting, he's a second round pick at best. There's a chance he's back but I bet it depends on what Keats can do in the portal. He will not come back unless he thinks they can win.
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Seabron is gone. At his age, it's time to go make some money, probably overseas.
Five (5) transfers, including Thomas, or in addition?
Also, other than Smith, who will be our second and third scoring options, capable of double-digit production against ACC defenses? Right now we have three: Smith, Seabron, and Hellems…and we are still one spot from DFL.
My overall point is this: if you are sold on Keatts, then you better be prepared to support him through another rough season next year. It may be worse than this year's team.
Acb0110
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Westwolf said:

Seabron is gone. At his age, it's time to go make some money, probably overseas.
Five (5) transfers, including Thomas, or in addition?
Also, other than Smith, who will be our second and third scoring options, capable of double-digit production against ACC defenses? Right now we have three: Smith, Seabron, and Hellems…and we are still one spot from DFL.
My overall point is this: if you are sold on Keatts, then you better be prepared to support him through another rough season next year. It may be worse than this year's team.


Or better depending upon portal recruiting
wolfpackjb
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Acb0110 said:

Westwolf said:

Seabron is gone. At his age, it's time to go make some money, probably overseas.
Five (5) transfers, including Thomas, or in addition?
Also, other than Smith, who will be our second and third scoring options, capable of double-digit production against ACC defenses? Right now we have three: Smith, Seabron, and Hellems…and we are still one spot from DFL.
My overall point is this: if you are sold on Keatts, then you better be prepared to support him through another rough season next year. It may be worse than this year's team.


Or better depending upon portal recruiting


I agree this is what it will come down to. Keatts has GOT to bring in talent via the portal this off-season. His job may depend on it
WolfpackSI
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Westwolf said:

Valid points.
I would argue that nonchalance while your teammates are fighting tooth and nail to achieve their goals, ones they've had since childhood, is a relatively bad attitude.
Then that would be a pretty dumb argument on your part because you literally have no idea what he's saying to his teammate, how he is in practice, etc. He could be an extremely supportive teammate in the background.

It's one thing to say he's not a good player at this level. There's clear objective evidence that he's got bad vision, ball-handling skills, low bball iq, etc. However, going after his character like this is extremely unfair. You're making him out to seem like he doesn't care about his teammates and you don't have any evidence of that outside of what you think you're seeing on TV.
ncsufan13
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Great team win today. I really hope Cam Hayes can get it together soon, having someone like him when he's feeling it could be great for this team
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I kinda wish they'd play Cam exclusively at the 2 now. He's got the size and a decent enough shot. It may get his game right, but who knows.
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OldTuffy said:

I kinda wish they'd play Cam exclusively at the 2 now. He's got the size and a decent enough shot. It may get his game right, but who knows.
Not a ton of minutes there though. Can't see him playing much over Baby T, Morsell, or even Thomas Allen at this point
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Man, this year is so frustrating because we are one Manny Bates away from being a tournament team. With how great Seabron is playing and Baby T has developed, we have 2 legit superstars and a great 3rd option in Hellems. The black hole that is our inside game is what's absolutely killing us.
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Mintz is incredibly good. Severely underranked, some people think he's a top 10 guy in the class
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Dennis Smith III said:



Mintz is incredibly good. Severely underranked, some people think he's a top 10 guy in the class


Love it, KK always recruits Virginia well
Westwolf
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Could you imagine a backcourt of Terquavion, Mintz, and Dillingham? Unstoppable . Though we still need some beef in the front court, a strong power toward.
As to this year's roster…if Bates was healthy, and we would be a tournament team. If we had added that guy from UVA we went after, we could have been Sweet 16.
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Westwolf said:

Could you imagine a backcourt of Terquavion, Mintz, and Dillingham? Unstoppable . Though we still need some beef in the front court, a strong power toward.
As to this year's roster…if Bates was healthy, and we would be a tournament team. If we had added that guy from UVA we went after, we could have been Sweet 16.


Add in Ross and Phillips plus a couple more legit recruits and transfers and this team could win something in a couple years. I worry the fanbase may be to impatient
Dennis Smith III
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I'm not *super* convinced T will be here past next year, and Mintz has a shot at being a one-and-done as well. But any combination of two of them would be an insane backcourt
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WolfpackSI said:

Dennis Smith III said:



Mintz is incredibly good. Severely underranked, some people think he's a top 10 guy in the class


Love it, KK always recruits Virginia well

Some think he's lottery pick material as a OAD
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Packfan8 said:

WolfpackSI said:

Dennis Smith III said:



Mintz is incredibly good. Severely underranked, some people think he's a top 10 guy in the class


Love it, KK always recruits Virginia well

Some think he's lottery pick material as a OAD


Not questioning you guys, but just wondering if you could share who is saying these things haha just would like to see what others are saying
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Yeah, if by some miracle Seabron stays next year, and we add a solid power forward from the portal, we'll be fine, a solid tourney team.
Otherwise some may get impatient, since it will be 5 years in a row without even making the tournament.
WolfpackSI
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Chris Mack apparently out at Lville tomorrow. This is absolutely mind blowing to me

Looking at you Roosevelt Wheeler, Jae'lyn Withers. I swear we were on half that rosters top-3
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WolfpackSI said:

Chris Mack apparently out at Lville tomorrow. This is absolutely mind blowing to me

Looking at you Roosevelt Wheeler, Jae'lyn Withers. I swear we were on half that rosters top-3

Does Wheeler even play? Withers is having a worse sophomore slump than Cam Hayes and we (fans) apparently want Hayes to leave. Is Withers any better than Gantt at this point?

About the only dude I'd want is Ellis and he's not exactly killing it either. There's also Mike James, 6'6 kid that's hurt and hasn't played. He's got the unknown on his side.

You're right tho, we did recruit a lot of that team.
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NCSU1995
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But with the turmoil, should we think that the players are giving 100%?
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I would still take Wheeler especially if Bates doesn't come back
Westwolf
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Like, really out, as in now, or speculation about the end of the year?
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NCSU1995 said:

But with the turmoil, should we think that the players are giving 100%?

If that's even remotely true, makes me want them less.
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Westwolf said:

Like, really out, as in now, or speculation about the end of the year?

As in tomorrow
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Terquavion Smith
Cam Hayes
Breon Pass
Casey Morsell
Manny Bates
Ebe Dowuana
Greg Gantt
Ernest Ross
Shawn Phillips
LJ Thomas
Judah Mintz
Transfer big

I'd love something like this for next season
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Westwolf said:

Could you imagine a backcourt of Terquavion, Mintz, and Dillingham? Unstoppable . Though we still need some beef in the front court, a strong power toward.
As to this year's roster…if Bates was healthy, and we would be a tournament team. If we had added that guy from UVA we went after, we could have been Sweet 16.
Will Terq and Dilly ever play together? Isn't Dilly 2023?
Dennis Smith III
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I would absolutely take Wheeler
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justinxxll said:

Terquavion Smith
Cam Hayes
Breon Pass
Casey Morsell
Manny Bates
Ebe Dowuana
Greg Gantt
Ernest Ross
Shawn Phillips
LJ Thomas
Judah Mintz
Transfer big

I'd love something like this for next season
Don't expect Manny back
Westwolf
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That roster fails to remotely replace the tile of Seabron and Hellems, I'm afraid.
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I'll take some of that
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RDUwolfpack said:

Westwolf said:

Could you imagine a backcourt of Terquavion, Mintz, and Dillingham? Unstoppable . Though we still need some beef in the front court, a strong power toward.
As to this year's roster…if Bates was healthy, and we would be a tournament team. If we had added that guy from UVA we went after, we could have been Sweet 16.
Will Terq and Dilly ever play together? Isn't Dilly 2023?
Dilly is 23'. Smith would be a Junior when he comes in.
WolfpackSI
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CLTWolf said:

WolfpackSI said:

Chris Mack apparently out at Lville tomorrow. This is absolutely mind blowing to me

Looking at you Roosevelt Wheeler, Jae'lyn Withers. I swear we were on half that rosters top-3

Does Wheeler even play? Withers is having a worse sophomore slump than Cam Hayes and we (fans) apparently want Hayes to leave. Is Withers any better than Gantt at this point?

About the only dude I'd want is Ellis and he's not exactly killing it either. There's also Mike James, 6'6 kid that's hurt and hasn't played. He's got the unknown on his side.

You're right tho, we did recruit a lot of that team.
If KK loves one thing its underperforming transfers lol. But yea, I was surprised to see that Withers and Roosevelt are playing so poorly. El Ellis would be a good fit here. Gabe Wiznitzer was a Hargrave kid but also barely plays.
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WolfpackSI said:

CLTWolf said:

WolfpackSI said:

Chris Mack apparently out at Lville tomorrow. This is absolutely mind blowing to me

Looking at you Roosevelt Wheeler, Jae'lyn Withers. I swear we were on half that rosters top-3

Does Wheeler even play? Withers is having a worse sophomore slump than Cam Hayes and we (fans) apparently want Hayes to leave. Is Withers any better than Gantt at this point?

About the only dude I'd want is Ellis and he's not exactly killing it either. There's also Mike James, 6'6 kid that's hurt and hasn't played. He's got the unknown on his side.

You're right tho, we did recruit a lot of that team.
If KK loves one thing its underperforming transfers lol. But yea, I was surprised to see that Withers and Roosevelt are playing so poorly. El Ellis would be a good fit here. Gabe Wiznitzer was a Hargrave kid but also barely plays.
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