Basketball recruiting and transfers

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TheWhiteWolf
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Dunlow66 said:

Packfan8 said:

Dunlow66 said:

Packfan8 said:

"Lastly, Thomas has been an NC State lean for a while, but the longer things have gone, the less likely it seems he will end up in Raleigh. Look for UConn with Thomas, as the Huskies have picked up ground with him of late.
NC State will land two of the three mentioned above, with Hayes and Hall the likeliest. The Wolfpack are also heavily in the mix for Henry Coleman, John Hugley, Deivon Smith and Tristan Maxwell."
From Corey Evans
I think we get Moore.

Would we take two lead guards?
Possible
Dun, I know you've been really high on Thomas, how bad will missing out on him hurt? I know some thought he could be "the" recruit for Keatts. Got to feel for Keatts he's put in a lot of work and time there (but I'm sure he used to in this business)
Dunlow66
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TheWhiteWolf said:

Dunlow66 said:

Packfan8 said:

Dunlow66 said:

Packfan8 said:

"Lastly, Thomas has been an NC State lean for a while, but the longer things have gone, the less likely it seems he will end up in Raleigh. Look for UConn with Thomas, as the Huskies have picked up ground with him of late.
NC State will land two of the three mentioned above, with Hayes and Hall the likeliest. The Wolfpack are also heavily in the mix for Henry Coleman, John Hugley, Deivon Smith and Tristan Maxwell."
From Corey Evans
I think we get Moore.

Would we take two lead guards?
Possible
Dun, I know you've been really high on Thomas, how bad will missing out on him hurt? I know some thought he could be "the" recruit for Keatts. Got to feel for Keatts he's put in a lot of work and time there (but I'm sure he used to in this business)
If we land another potenial 5 star with skills to play outside like Josh Hall, not that much

If we miss on Hall and Coleman(as expected as of today).....a lot.
Packfan8
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In Moore's 14 games on the eybl circuit and peach jam he averaged 16.8 ppg 4.6 rebounds, 3.6 assists and 2.8 steals per game. Shot 35.7% from 3 and only 55% from the ft line. For a guy who is highly regarded as a defender he can still get it done on the offensive end.
Hayes on the same team averaged 13.6 ppg, 4.2 rebounds, 5.2 assists and 1.7 steals per game. Hayes was a streaky shooter and only shot 31.9 % from 3 while shooting 71% from the line.
Dunlow66
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Packfan8 said:

In Moore's 14 games on the eybl circuit and peach jam he averaged 16.8 ppg 4.6 rebounds, 3.6 assists and 2.8 steals per game. Shot 35.7% from 3 and only 55% from the ft line. For a guy who is highly regarded as a defender he can still get it done on the offensive end.
Hayes on the same team averaged 13.6 ppg, 4.2 rebounds, 5.2 assists and 1.7 steals per game. Hayes was a streaky shooter and only shot 31.9 % from 3 while shooting 71% from the line.
Moore is also tough as nails. That kid plays through a lot of contact. Get that freethrow percentage up to 70 or better and he will get his on the offensive end. Very solid finisher on the break and tough to stop once he beats the first defender.

Packfan8
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Dunlow66 said:

Packfan8 said:

In Moore's 14 games on the eybl circuit and peach jam he averaged 16.8 ppg 4.6 rebounds, 3.6 assists and 2.8 steals per game. Shot 35.7% from 3 and only 55% from the ft line. For a guy who is highly regarded as a defender he can still get it done on the offensive end.
Hayes on the same team averaged 13.6 ppg, 4.2 rebounds, 5.2 assists and 1.7 steals per game. Hayes was a streaky shooter and only shot 31.9 % from 3 while shooting 71% from the line.
Moore is also tough as nails. That kid plays through a lot of contact. Get that freethrow percentage up to 70 or better and he will get his on the offensive end. Very solid finisher on the break and tough to stop once he beats the first defender.



Fwiw maxpreps has him at 180 for 258 from the line in his 86 games at the varsity level which is 69.8%. Could have just been a bad 14 game stretch this summer. And this past season shot 78% at the line. I would love to have him on our squad even if he's not a top 100 player
PicklePacker
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count me in on Moore. i want tough kids. not sure hayes has that same fire.
Struttingwolf96
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So is Josh Hall visting State on Sept.10th?
PicklePacker
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josh hall on twitter confirming his recruitment is 110% open. wonder if rumors were floating around that he was about to commit.
ClePack
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PicklePacker said:

count me in on Moore. i want tough kids. not sure hayes has that same fire.
I'd take both. There's go to be a reason Hayes is ranked so highly. Don't get me wrong, i'd love both, but we need a severe influx of talent if we want to compete in the top 4 of the ACC. 100+ ranked kid's probably won't cut it (unless keatts can really develop kids). This is one of the reasons why I really wanted Cam Thomas.
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nryanh94 said:

Dunlow66 said:

nryanh94 said:

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Keatts retweeted his sons offer but since he is now a recruit and it's a no communication period (I believe) isn't that a violation. If so I hope it gets reported to compliance before it turns into something it shouldn't be


Special rules regarding children; that's why Keatts can go watch Garner Road whenever he wants and Gott could do the same with Broughton
still makes me wonder why Gott didnt see what Devonte Graham could do at the next level. I know he blew up as a Senior after siging with App State, but still, the talent was there. Others also missed on Graham.... they didnt have the opportunities and inside info Gott did....same could be said for Jerome Robinson.


I'm fairly certain Gott just went to scout or rivals and went down the list and offered everyone in the top 100.
Oh Gott was scouting the "talent" around Broughton for sure. Most of it was about 5'7" with long blonde hair though...
nryanh94
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ZAXPACK15 said:

nryanh94 said:

Dunlow66 said:

nryanh94 said:

Packfan8 said:

Keatts retweeted his sons offer but since he is now a recruit and it's a no communication period (I believe) isn't that a violation. If so I hope it gets reported to compliance before it turns into something it shouldn't be


Special rules regarding children; that's why Keatts can go watch Garner Road whenever he wants and Gott could do the same with Broughton
still makes me wonder why Gott didnt see what Devonte Graham could do at the next level. I know he blew up as a Senior after siging with App State, but still, the talent was there. Others also missed on Graham.... they didnt have the opportunities and inside info Gott did....same could be said for Jerome Robinson.


I'm fairly certain Gott just went to scout or rivals and went down the list and offered everyone in the top 100.
Oh Gott was scouting the "talent" around Broughton for sure. Most of it was about 5'7" with long blonde hair though...


We may not like Gott, but let's not start throwing around rumors that he was after underage girls, even if it is a joke
ZAXPACK15
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Moore and Hall would be great. Throw in one more HS recruit or Grad-transfer and I'll be very happy
ZAXPACK15
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nryanh94 said:

ZAXPACK15 said:

nryanh94 said:

Dunlow66 said:

nryanh94 said:

Packfan8 said:

Keatts retweeted his sons offer but since he is now a recruit and it's a no communication period (I believe) isn't that a violation. If so I hope it gets reported to compliance before it turns into something it shouldn't be


Special rules regarding children; that's why Keatts can go watch Garner Road whenever he wants and Gott could do the same with Broughton
still makes me wonder why Gott didnt see what Devonte Graham could do at the next level. I know he blew up as a Senior after siging with App State, but still, the talent was there. Others also missed on Graham.... they didnt have the opportunities and inside info Gott did....same could be said for Jerome Robinson.


I'm fairly certain Gott just went to scout or rivals and went down the list and offered everyone in the top 100.
Oh Gott was scouting the "talent" around Broughton for sure. Most of it was about 5'7" with long blonde hair though...


We may not like Gott, but let's not start throwing around rumors that he was after underage girls, even if it is a joke
Oh I shoulda been more clear, I was referring to the moms in my head haha
WolfpackSI
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Lock up Farrar/Moore/Hall/Calhoun
Struttingwolf96
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Like it. Don't believe State needs to sign a C until the 2021 class.
Struttingwolf96
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Is Calhoun ever gonna be put on the Watchlist? He's had an offer for a while & Springer is still on it even though when he made cut of schools State wasn't on it. Why is he still on it?
TheStorm
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Struttingwolf96 said:

Is Calhoun ever gonna be put on the Watchlist? He's had an offer for a while & Springer is still on it even though when he made cut of schools State wasn't on it. Why is he still on it?
You really, really, really get hung up on that Watchlist for some reason, don't you?
PicklePacker
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TheStorm said:

Struttingwolf96 said:

Is Calhoun ever gonna be put on the Watchlist? He's had an offer for a while & Springer is still on it even though when he made cut of schools State wasn't on it. Why is he still on it?
You really, really, really get hung up on that Watchlist for some reason, don't you?
It does seem to need an update.
Struttingwolf96
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Agree, thank you.
Struttingwolf96
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Just like you respond to all my post. It's like clock work.
Dunlow66
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Who cares about the watchlist?

Read this thread and you will be kept up to date. Most of those guys on that chart will head elsewhere anyway.

Dont think we get the JUCO kid rigth now. Not even sure we are still in it or ever were.
Dunlow66
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Va Tech looks like they will and another guard soon in Darrius Maddox. Already have Joe Bamisille for 2020 and Jalen Cone for 2019

Probably ends their recruitment of Shakeel Moore and Cam Thomas as it relates to NCSU recruiting.. They need to add some big guys.
Dunlow66
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Adam Miller looks like he is Illinois to lose. Arizona State in it with Kansas watching.
Dunlow66
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I'd put Shakeel Moore and Josh Hall abouve Cam Thomas right now, IMO, as far as our odds.
TheStorm
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Struttingwolf96 said:

Just like you respond to all my post. It's like clock work.
I'm just surprised that you don't post your own "watchlist" here on this thread and keep it updated for everyone... I'm sure that no one here would mind.
Dunlow66
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Coleman is Duke's, IMO, if they want him right now. He is still looking around and if a higher ranked guy takes a Duke scholarship, that could open Coleman up a bit.

Dad is a Va Tech alum and they need bigs so might consider them as runner up right now.
Dunlow66
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Tristan Maxwell likes the Pack more than I like him. Think he is a fall back option that could get some late attention if Thomas goes elsewhere.
Dunlow66
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No shot at Matt Murrell
Dunlow66
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Williams is likely going to Duke


Jalen Bridges is no longer listing us

Seymore's offer may be contigent on his rehab from ACL surgery. Va Tech may have the inside track on him assuming a full recovery
Dunlow66
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John Hugley should move up to maybe Top 5 on the Watchlist. Recruitment is still fluid....watch out for PItt
nryanh94
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So to sum it up:

1. Shakeel Moore
2. Josh Hall
3. Cam Hayes
4. Cam Thomas (starting to lean away from us)
5. John Hugley
6. Henry Coleman (contingent on if duke wants him)


Still in it with Williams (likely Duke); Smith (likely a GA team); Maxwell (fall back option)
Dunlow66
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nryanh94 said:

So to sum it up:

1. Shakeel Moore
2. Josh Hall
3. Cam Hayes
4. Cam Thomas (starting to lean away from us)
5. John Hugley
6. Henry Coleman (contingent on if duke wants him)


Still in it with Williams (likely Duke); Smith (likely a GA team); Maxwell (fall back option)
Seems about right to me.....any other opinions or info?

Feel free to share.
WolfpackSI
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2020/2021 NC State Basketball Scholarship tracker:

Seniors(4): Braxton Beverly, Derek Funderburk, Devon Daniels*, Blake Harris,

Juniors(3): Jericole Hellems, Atticus Taylor, Thomas Allen Jr*

Sophomores(2): Manny Bates*, Dereon Seabron

Freshman(1): Farrar

Scholarships available for 2019: 3

Departures: Markell Johnson, CJ Bryce, Pat Andrees, Danny Dixon
WolfpackSI
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WolfpackSI said:

2020/2021 NC State Basketball Scholarship tracker:

Seniors(4): Braxton Beverly, Derek Funderburk, Devon Daniels*, Blake Harris,

Juniors(3): Jericole Hellems, Atticus Taylor, Thomas Allen Jr*

Sophomores(2): Manny Bates*, Dereon Seabron

Freshman(1): Farrar

Scholarships available for 2019: 3

Departures: Markell Johnson, CJ Bryce, Pat Andrees, Danny Dixon
Heres a roster tracker I updated for anyone interested.

Big might be a bigger need than I originally thought. Depending on how comfortable you are with Farrar contributing as a big and if you view Hall is a big or a tall wing.
Dunlow66
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WolfpackSI said:

WolfpackSI said:

2020/2021 NC State Basketball Scholarship tracker:

Seniors(4): Braxton Beverly, Derek Funderburk, Devon Daniels*, Blake Harris,

Juniors(3): Jericole Hellems, Atticus Taylor, Thomas Allen Jr*

Sophomores(2): Manny Bates*, Dereon Seabron

Freshman(1): Farrar

Scholarships available for 2019: 3

Departures: Markell Johnson, CJ Bryce, Pat Andrees, Danny Dixon
Heres a roster tracker I updated for anyone interested.

Big might be a bigger need than I originally thought. Depending on how comfortable you are with Farrar contributing as a big and if you view Hall is a big or a tall wing.
Taylor may be a big by then.

If we dont get Hall(or Coleman), I do think a big man becomes more of a priority
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