They could have gave Dixon Seabron's spot & have both MJ & Lecque end up in Raleigh.

FergusWolf said:

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Do you mean "against NCAA rules" better known as SOP at UN*? or real illegal

(Note, I'm not claiming that UN* gives academic scholarships to atheletes, but rather anything that's "against NCAA rules" is likely standard practice at UN*)

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Yes

If there was a loophole to go over the scholarship limit, teams would do it constantly. You can't give academic scholarships to basketball players.

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WolfpackSI said:

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So this means that our last scholarship is gonna be filled by either Cone Markell or Lecque?

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It means someone currently on the roster(Markell?, Lecque?, Seabron?, mystery transfer?) will not be here when the season starts.

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I'll post this again for those wondering about the scholarship situation.

I'm going with Seabron and Lecque will not be here and Markell comes back. That will leave us with one more scholarship to fill.

I think Seabron makes it. Lecque is the defector.

Just by MJ & Lecque talking about something on Instagram announcing on the 28th together I'm starting to believe both will be in Raleigh & Keatts already knows Seabron won't make the grade to get in, so his spot went to Dixon. That would be a really good team.

PF ANDREE/Hellems/Taylor
F BRYCE/Daniels/Taylor
C Funderburk/DIXON/Bates
PG JOHNSON/Harris
G Lecque/Beverly

CG Allen-RS

I feel like the Lecque ship sailed awhile back. He always striked me as a guy ready to get paid to play. I think getting Johnson back is bigger than anyone we can get to come in for this year.

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duran_duran said:

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So how do we know Dixon is? Seems a little hopeful to think we could just create another scholarship for a guy like that.

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Idk what his gpa is, but he was in some kind of national honor society out of Hs

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The highschool "National Honor Society" is not that impressive and would not alone have any indication that a player is deserving of an academic scholarship.

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nryanh94 said:

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duran_duran said:

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So how do we know Dixon is? Seems a little hopeful to think we could just create another scholarship for a guy like that.

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Idk what his gpa is, but he was in some kind of national honor society out of Hs

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The highschool "National Honor Society" is not that impressive and would not alone have any indication that a player is deserving of an academic scholarship.

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Never said he was. Was just posting the only thing academic related I could find on him

i don't know about anyone else but I'd really like seabron to get here. Keatts needs to build a steady base of experienced players and he needs to get and retain some freshmen in order to do so

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Just by MJ & Lecque talking about something on Instagram announcing on the 28th together I'm starting to believe both will be in Raleigh & Keatts already knows Seabron won't make the grade to get in, so his spot went to Dixon. That would be a really good team.

PF ANDREE/Hellems/Taylor
F BRYCE/Daniels/Taylor
C Funderburk/DIXON/Bates
PG JOHNSON/Harris
G Lecque/Beverly

CG Allen-RS

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wait what? they said they will announce something together? I missed this

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i don't know about anyone else but I'd really like seabron to get here. Keatts needs to build a steady base of experienced players and he needs to get and retain some freshmen in order to do so

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100% agree. If it's a choice, I'd rather get Seabron in than Lecque. Seabron's a talented kid that has the potential to stick around and develop in the program. A guy like him can add some long term stability to our team. He and Allen would look really good together for a couple of years. If Lecque comes, he'll still need time to develop before he could make a serious impact, but will be out the door long before that happens.

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Struttingwolf96 said:

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Just by MJ & Lecque talking about something on Instagram announcing on the 28th together I'm starting to believe both will be in Raleigh & Keatts already knows Seabron won't make the grade to get in, so his spot went to Dixon. That would be a really good team.

PF ANDREE/Hellems/Taylor
F BRYCE/Daniels/Taylor
C Funderburk/DIXON/Bates
PG JOHNSON/Harris
G Lecque/Beverly

CG Allen-RS

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wait what? they said they will announce something together? I missed this

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There was an instagram story posted by one of the two saying something like, "you know what we talked about". Implying that they'd play together. That was about a week ago.

Y'all gotta be careful reading into all of these social media posts lol

For those thinking about getting around the athletic scholarships limit by giving Dixon an academic scholarship, you can't do it.

There is something in the NCAA, it's called Bylaw 15.02.4.3. This rule states that any financial aid except that which is specifically exempted is going to count as athletic aid and make the student a "counter" in terms of scholarships.

Seems like back in the day there's was a different rule. I seem to remember Dean Smith got Rusty Clark a Morehead Scholarship, but that was so long ago I could be remembering wrong.

But think about it using common sense. If you could, we know who would stockpile kids like crazy about 20 miles west of Raleigh.

Law of the Wolf said:

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For those thinking about getting around the athletic scholarships limit by giving Dixon an academic scholarship, you can't do it.

There is something in the NCAA, it's called Bylaw 15.02.4.3. This rule states that any financial aid except that which is specifically exempted is going to count as athletic aid and make the student a "counter" in terms of scholarships.

Seems like back in the day there's was a different rule. I seem to remember Dean Smith got Rusty Clark a Morehead Scholarship, but that was so long ago I could be remembering wrong.

But think about it using common sense. If you could, we know who would stockpile kids like crazy about 20 miles west of Raleigh.

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So how would walk ons work then?

nryanh94 said:

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Law of the Wolf said:

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For those thinking about getting around the athletic scholarships limit by giving Dixon an academic scholarship, you can't do it.

There is something in the NCAA, it's called Bylaw 15.02.4.3. This rule states that any financial aid except that which is specifically exempted is going to count as athletic aid and make the student a "counter" in terms of scholarships.

Seems like back in the day there's was a different rule. I seem to remember Dean Smith got Rusty Clark a Morehead Scholarship, but that was so long ago I could be remembering wrong.

But think about it using common sense. If you could, we know who would stockpile kids like crazy about 20 miles west of Raleigh.

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So how would walk ons work then?

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I'm guessing they would have to pay their own way

Dunlow66 said:

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nryanh94 said:

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Law of the Wolf said:

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For those thinking about getting around the athletic scholarships limit by giving Dixon an academic scholarship, you can't do it.

There is something in the NCAA, it's called Bylaw 15.02.4.3. This rule states that any financial aid except that which is specifically exempted is going to count as athletic aid and make the student a "counter" in terms of scholarships.

Seems like back in the day there's was a different rule. I seem to remember Dean Smith got Rusty Clark a Morehead Scholarship, but that was so long ago I could be remembering wrong.

But think about it using common sense. If you could, we know who would stockpile kids like crazy about 20 miles west of Raleigh.

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So how would walk ons work then?

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I'm guessing they would have to pay their own way

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So walkons can't receive any type of academic scholarship? Even if they were going to receive it without being an athlete? That doesn't smell right

nryanh94 said:

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Dunlow66 said:

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nryanh94 said:

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Law of the Wolf said:

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For those thinking about getting around the athletic scholarships limit by giving Dixon an academic scholarship, you can't do it.

There is something in the NCAA, it's called Bylaw 15.02.4.3. This rule states that any financial aid except that which is specifically exempted is going to count as athletic aid and make the student a "counter" in terms of scholarships.

Seems like back in the day there's was a different rule. I seem to remember Dean Smith got Rusty Clark a Morehead Scholarship, but that was so long ago I could be remembering wrong.

But think about it using common sense. If you could, we know who would stockpile kids like crazy about 20 miles west of Raleigh.

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So how would walk ons work then?

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I'm guessing they would have to pay their own way

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So walkons can't receive any type of academic scholarship? Even if they were going to receive it without being an athlete? That doesn't smell right

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I'm sure they can receive some aid but I dont think it can be 'all expenses paid' .

Moot point anyway, this kid is gonna be on scholarship.

Jeremy roach has committed to Duke in 2020. I think we don't have to worry about duke offering Hayes now, just have to worry about the other ugly blue

I am pretty sure there is a hierarchy. If you have an academic scholarship and walk on you count. If you play football and basketball you count for football. Basketball is second If you play basketball and baseball you count for basketball. Thayer Thomas counts as football. Tim Stoddard counted s basketball. Blackman counted as basketball.

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Jeremy roach has committed to Duke in 2020. I think we don't have to worry about duke offering Hayes now, just have to worry about the other ugly blue

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Roach was also UNC's top PG target.

Dunlow66 said:

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Packfan8 said:

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Jeremy roach has committed to Duke in 2020. I think we don't have to worry about duke offering Hayes now, just have to worry about the other ugly blue

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Roach was also UNC's top PG target.

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Yeah, was gonna say. UNC will likley offer Hayes now. The though up here around Paul Vi was Roach was gonna follow Harris to UNC

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Dunlow66 said:

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Packfan8 said:

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Jeremy roach has committed to Duke in 2020. I think we don't have to worry about duke offering Hayes now, just have to worry about the other ugly blue

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Roach was also UNC's top PG target.

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Yeah, was gonna say. UNC will likley offer Hayes now. The though up here around Paul Vi was Roach was gonna follow Harris to UNC

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They did just offer combo guard Bryce Thompson

Are people still under the impression that Lecque is coming to State?

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Are people still under the impression that Lecque is coming to State?

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Yea? I think everyone here has the same understanding that its like 70/30 that he goes into the draft. Unless you have some info that says otherwise?

nryanh94 said:

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Well it could be viewed as a good sign that Markell is retweeting a post about Keatts' summer camps

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First, I appreciate the quality info you guys provide on this site-thank you. As someone who knows no one in the know, has no 'sources' and just reads everything I can to learn what's up, sometimes the tweeting updates (I appreciate them as well) seem a little like the scene in Rudolph where Clarice says he's cute. Maybe it will turn out the same-Rudolph had a huge vertical if I recall. :-) I wish I knew how to post that vid clip.

Dunlow66 said:

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Dunlow66 said:

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WolfpackSI said:

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So this means that our last scholarship is gonna be filled by either Cone Markell or Lecque?

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It means someone currently on the roster(Markell?, Lecque?, Seabron?, mystery transfer?) will not be here when the season starts.

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I'll post this again for those wondering about the scholarship situation.

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Again. Why is Dixon wearing the #4 in his picture when we already have a player on the team that wears that number currently?

WolfpackSI said:

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Ripper said:

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Are people still under the impression that Lecque is coming to State?

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Yea? I think everyone here has the same understanding that its like 70/30 that he goes into the draft. Unless you have some info that says otherwise?

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What happens if he stays in the draft but isn't actually drafted?

I thought the "new" rules still allowed him to remain eligible to "come back"? (is that where the rub lies? re: "come back"?)

He has until May 28th to withdraw

TheStorm said:

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Dunlow66 said:

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Dunlow66 said:

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WolfpackSI said:

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So this means that our last scholarship is gonna be filled by either Cone Markell or Lecque?

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It means someone currently on the roster(Markell?, Lecque?, Seabron?, mystery transfer?) will not be here when the season starts.

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I'll post this again for those wondering about the scholarship situation.

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Again. Why is Dixon wearing the #4 in his picture when we already have a player on the team that wears that number currently?

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Probably just the try on Jersey they had in his size those are old jerseys anyway. Pretty sure I've seen other recruits wear #4 as well.

TheStorm said:

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WolfpackSI said:

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Ripper said:

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Are people still under the impression that Lecque is coming to State?

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Yea? I think everyone here has the same understanding that its like 70/30 that he goes into the draft. Unless you have some info that says otherwise?

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What happens if he stays in the draft but isn't actually drafted?

I thought the "new" rules still allowed him to remain eligible to "come back"? (is that where the rub lies? re: "come back"?)

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I'm kinda confused by this as well, the ncaa has approved of this rule but players have to wait until the nbpa gets together and formally changes the rule for the nba. Right now in the nba you're not eligible to keep your name in the draft multiple times and that's the hold up from what I have read

https://www.aseaofblue.com/2019/4/5/18296225/nba-draft-2019-rules-agent-deadline

Here is a good explanation of the current rules.