Charlie Kirk shot

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Werewolf
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I shared this as you asked to see what Charlie said... i don't think it's antisemitic either. He$$, the people in Gaza have been shown to have more semitic DNA than those residing in Israel. Google it.

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

caryking said:

GuerrillaPack said:

caryking said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Charlie Kirk was killed by Israel, because he started to express "anti-Semitic" views.

And now cry babies like you want to ban me for saying the same things Charlie did.

Ironic

GP, I'm a little late to this today…

I really don't see where Charlie Kirk was Anti-Semitic at all. Did he call out concerns with Israel's tactics in Gaza? Yes he did. That, in no way, makes him Anti-Semitic.

i am another person that had concerns with Israel's actions, especially in Iran, and now Qatar. Additionally, I believe Gaza became a cesspool of extremist Muslims; therefore, I get why Israel has done what they've done, generally speaking. I also think, based on my limited knowledge, that the people living in Gaza have had a hard time living recently. What needs to be done? I'm not sure.

My concerns, in now way, makes me Anti-Semitic. Am I Un-American, when I have issues with things the US does? No!


The term "anti-Semitic" is a loaded and subjective smear term, that could mean anything depending on who is using it, and what they mean by it.

My point is that opponents of Kirk could and were labeling many of Kirk's recently expressed views as "antisemitic" - such as him saying that Oct 7th was a stand down and that Israel is "trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza", or his statement (paraphrasing) that elite "Jewish donors are the driving force behind the cultural Marxist agenda in America".

If you would, please find those quotes in video (context as well). I would like to hear how Charlie said those things.



My opinion…

what Charlie said and the way GP framed the statements are misleading. Charlie didn't say that October 7th was a stand-down; rather, he is proposing the question, based on a correlation of events…. Now, I agree, he is saying that Gaza is an ethnic cleansing. To a degree, I understand why and how he's come to the conclusion. Additionally, he said that he's been told that Israel has a similar cultural Marxist side that pushes the agenda in Israel.

So, the comments GP has made have a sliver of truth; however, based on the video you posted, they are completely out of context.

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Civilized
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jkpackfan said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

packgrad said:

Civ rejoiced when his president Trump was banned from social media. Civ was silent when Biden admin was pressuring Twitter to silence viewpoints contrary to government positions on Covid. As per usual, Civ is a hypocrite.

Civ is upset that a fellow propagandist that did a horrible job on his late night tv show was silenced. Propaganda before truth. Hitler world be proud.

Exactly. Cry me a freaking river.

You agree that an administration asking a social media platform to better limit clear misinformation about vaccine safety in the midst of a global pandemic that was killing millions is a little different than an administration squelching speech that, in the worst possible light, was simply speech that was critical of their political party conduct?

Did the Biden Administration letter(s) threaten Facebook?

Where they coercive?

Would the Biden administration legally have been able to remove Facebook from the Internet?

Most importantly, you're aware that case has already been adjudicated by the Supreme Court, which found insufficient evidence of harm to Facebook, right?

Jesus dude are you serious? Lmao did they threaten Facebook? As packgrad pointed out Zuckerberg confirmed this. You claim to be this "independent" but all you do is parrot talking points straight from the minions of the left.


Really?

What did they threaten them with?

Everything I've read is that Facebook did not comply with many of their requests, so the public health officials wrote them letters expressing their disappointment.

Some threat.

And, the Supreme Court disagrees with you.
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Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

packgrad said:

Civ rejoiced when his president Trump was banned from social media. Civ was silent when Biden admin was pressuring Twitter to silence viewpoints contrary to government positions on Covid. As per usual, Civ is a hypocrite.

Civ is upset that a fellow propagandist that did a horrible job on his late night tv show was silenced. Propaganda before truth. Hitler world be proud.

Exactly. Cry me a freaking river.

You agree that an administration asking a social media platform to better limit clear misinformation about vaccine safety in the midst of a global pandemic that was killing millions is a little different than an administration squelching speech that, in the worst possible light, was simply speech that was critical of their political party conduct?

Did the Biden Administration letter(s) threaten Facebook?

Where they coercive?

Would the Biden administration legally have been able to remove Facebook from the Internet?

Most importantly, you're aware that case has already been adjudicated by the Supreme Court, which found insufficient evidence of harm to Facebook, right?

Jesus dude are you serious? Lmao did they threaten Facebook? As packgrad pointed out Zuckerberg confirmed this. You claim to be this "independent" but all you do is parrot talking points straight from the minions of the left.


Really?

What did they threaten them with?

Everything I've read is that Facebook did not comply with many of their requests, so the public health officials wrote them letters expressing their disappointment.

Some threat.

And, the Supreme Court disagrees with you.


You could just admit that you're wrong, or that you're a liar. Either one. And, America disagrees with you.
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jkpackfan said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:



"Does it make sense now!"

Not in the least.

"Multiple reports" = Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson etc.

Max Blumenthal!
Originator of the Tony Adams Scale
PackFan104
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I am a teacher and unfortunately have to keep my mouth shut about my views and beliefs. Should not be the world we live in.

Did choose this profession though...so I knew what I was getting myself into
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FlossyDFlynt said:



A couple notes -
1. It wasnt taken out of context
2. The fact he wasnt going to apologize is probably what pushed this whole thing over the ledge

Look, I think his show was a dead man walking regardless. I still dont like the FCC stepping in to pressure the networks, but I do think the end result would inevitably be the same.

What did Kimmel say?
PackFan104
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He basically said that MAGA was trying to make the shooter out to be anyone but themselves. Basically said the shooter was MAGA
El Lobo Loco
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I40Wolf said:

FlossyDFlynt said:



A couple notes -
1. It wasnt taken out of context
2. The fact he wasnt going to apologize is probably what pushed this whole thing over the ledge

Look, I think his show was a dead man walking regardless. I still dont like the FCC stepping in to pressure the networks, but I do think the end result would inevitably be the same.

What did Kimmel say?

https://nypost.com/2025/09/18/entertainment/jimmy-kimmels-full-controversial-comments-on-charlie-kirk-that-led-to-abc-pulling-jimmy-kimmel-live/

There's a video embedded in the article.
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I40Wolf said:

FlossyDFlynt said:



A couple notes -
1. It wasnt taken out of context
2. The fact he wasnt going to apologize is probably what pushed this whole thing over the ledge

Look, I think his show was a dead man walking regardless. I still dont like the FCC stepping in to pressure the networks, but I do think the end result would inevitably be the same.

What did Kimmel say?

You know how no matter who is murdered, MAGA across the board always immediately rushes to insist that it was a Librul that did it? Kimmel did that.

BURN THE WITCH!
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Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

packgrad said:

Civ rejoiced when his president Trump was banned from social media. Civ was silent when Biden admin was pressuring Twitter to silence viewpoints contrary to government positions on Covid. As per usual, Civ is a hypocrite.

Civ is upset that a fellow propagandist that did a horrible job on his late night tv show was silenced. Propaganda before truth. Hitler world be proud.

Exactly. Cry me a freaking river.

You agree that an administration asking a social media platform to better limit clear misinformation about vaccine safety in the midst of a global pandemic that was killing millions is a little different than an administration squelching speech that, in the worst possible light, was simply speech that was critical of their political party conduct?

Did the Biden Administration letter(s) threaten Facebook?

Where they coercive?

Would the Biden administration legally have been able to remove Facebook from the Internet?

Most importantly, you're aware that case has already been adjudicated by the Supreme Court, which found insufficient evidence of harm to Facebook, right?

Jesus dude are you serious? Lmao did they threaten Facebook? As packgrad pointed out Zuckerberg confirmed this. You claim to be this "independent" but all you do is parrot talking points straight from the minions of the left.


Really?

What did they threaten them with?

Everything I've read is that Facebook did not comply with many of their requests, so the public health officials wrote them letters expressing their disappointment.

Some threat.

And, the Supreme Court disagrees with you.


Lmfao I can't with you anymore. JC
jkpackfan
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So many on the right fell for it.

seapineswolf
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I don't often come over to this board very often, but reading this thread was a little disturbing, and fwiw im a conservative.

has anyone reported that one poster for some pretty hardcore anti Semitic views along with a few other forms of hate speech? I am just surprised that the owners of this site let that kind of stuff fly on their platform.

anyways, just curious....thanks,
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seapineswolf said:

I don't often come over to this board very often, but reading this thread was a little disturbing, and fwiw im a conservative.

has anyone reported that one poster for some pretty hardcore anti Semitic views along with a few other forms of hate speech? I am just surprised that the owners of this site let that kind of stuff fly on their platform.

anyways, just curious....thanks,

This is preposterous.

What EXACTLY have I said here that remotely warrants being censored and silenced? Be specific.

All I've done here is re-post statements by people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and even Charlie Kirk himself. And those views are part of the free and open debate going on all across the internet and all of social media - including Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube.

To repeat myself for the 3rd or 4th time, Charlie Kirk himself explicitly said that October 7th was a "stand down" by the Israelis and that they are "trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza" (direct quote). Charlie Kirk also said, paraphrasing, that "elite jewish donors are the driving force behind the cultural Marxist agenda in America".

Are you seriously saying that jews and Israel cannot be criticized in ANY way, and that anyone who does "deserves" to be censored, banned, and silenced from the internet? Is that what you mean by "anti-semitism"? No criticism of jews or Israel allowed at all?

If so, then you need to censor all of this exact debate that is going on on the entire internet.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
El Lobo Loco
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"don't often come over to this board very often"

Joined the site less than a month ago.

Hmmm.....
seapineswolf
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To be more on topic, I would like to say that I am pretty uncomfortable right now with how we are trying to censor free speech.

I may hate what they are saying, and most of it is disgusting, but as far as I am concerned, the left has the right to say what they want. I feel like we are going down the same path of cancel culture or whatever that we were subjected to for all those years from the other side.

As a fan of limited government, this seems to be some overreach, I just want to abide by the constitution.
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El Lobo Loco said:

"don't often come over to this board very often"

Joined the site less than a month ago.

Hmmm.....

Yeah im pretty new here, mainly stick to the sports boards, but I wanted to check this board out since there are a lot of topics that interest me.

loved reading the one just now about the sports card collecting...
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seapineswolf said:

I don't often come over to this board very often, but reading this thread was a little disturbing, and fwiw im a conservative.

has anyone reported that one poster for some pretty hardcore anti Semitic views along with a few other forms of hate speech? I am just surprised that the owners of this site let that kind of stuff fly on their platform.

anyways, just curious....thanks,

So-called "hate speech" is a politically-defined concept that is selectively targeted only to censor and silence conservative views.

What about all of the "hate speech" from the Left and Democrats that has been directed at conservatives and Christians and MAGA people for the past 8-9 years? Leftist celebrities, TV pundits, and even Democrat politicians have openly encouraged and called for violence against Trump supporters. Were you there condemning that "hate speech" and calling for censorship then?

An integral part of the Leftist and Democrat agenda is demonizing white people -- with constant propaganda, including "critical race theory" in schools and universities to essentially accuse all white people of being "racist" and guilty of "white supremacy" and "white privilege".

Do people like you ever condemn that "hate speech" against white people? Of course not. It's part of your official party platform and ideology.



"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
seapineswolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

seapineswolf said:

I don't often come over to this board very often, but reading this thread was a little disturbing, and fwiw im a conservative.

has anyone reported that one poster for some pretty hardcore anti Semitic views along with a few other forms of hate speech? I am just surprised that the owners of this site let that kind of stuff fly on their platform.

anyways, just curious....thanks,

This is preposterous.

What EXACTLY have I said here that remotely warrants being censored and silenced? Be specific.

All I've done here is re-post statements by people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and even Charlie Kirk himself. And those views are part of the free and open debate going on all across the internet and all of social media - including Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube.

To repeat myself for the 3rd or 4th time, Charlie Kirk himself explicitly said that October 7th was a "stand down" by the Israelis and that they are "trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza" (direct quote). Charlie Kirk also said, paraphrasing, that "elite jewish donors are the driving force behind the cultural Marxist agenda in America".

Are you seriously saying that jews and Israel cannot be criticized in ANY way, and that anyone who does "deserves" to be censored, banned, and silenced from the internet? Is that what you mean by "anti-semitism"? No criticism of jews or Israel allowed at all?

If so, then you need to censor all of this exact debate that is going on on the entire internet.

I never said what poster I was referring to...
packgrad
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What censorship of free speech are you speaking of that concerns you?
El Lobo Loco
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"Hate speech" is free speech. That just means the government can't make laws against it and prosecute you for what you're saying. Nothing in the 1st Amendment about not facing repercussions from other entities such as employers, customers, etc.
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seapineswolf said:

To be more on topic, I would like to say that I am pretty uncomfortable right now with how we are trying to censor free speech.

I may hate what they are saying, and most of it is disgusting, but as far as I am concerned, the left has the right to say what they want. I feel like we are going down the same path of cancel culture or whatever that we were subjected to for all those years from the other side.

As a fan of limited government, this seems to be some overreach, I just want to abide by the constitution.

I'm 100% against censoring ANYONE -- whether on the Left or Right or anywhere in between. I am a free speech absolutist.

Free speech is the anti-thesis of a free and open and "democratic" society. Censorship is used by tyrants, in order to force a certain ideology on the population (as in communist countries). And censorship must be used because their ideologies are fallacious and harmful, and if free speech is allowed the TRUTH will come out and expose their false and destructive ideology.

In order to advance the cause of truth on everything, absolute free speech and open debate should be allowed. Allow all ideas to compete in the "marketplace of ideas", and eventually the "cream will rise to the top" and the truth will prevail.

"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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El Lobo Loco said:

"Hate speech" is free speech. That just means the government can't make laws against it and prosecute you for what you're saying. Nothing in the 1st Amendment about not facing repercussions from other entities such as employers, customers, etc.

I agree with that completely, 100%.

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seapineswolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

seapineswolf said:

I don't often come over to this board very often, but reading this thread was a little disturbing, and fwiw im a conservative.

has anyone reported that one poster for some pretty hardcore anti Semitic views along with a few other forms of hate speech? I am just surprised that the owners of this site let that kind of stuff fly on their platform.

anyways, just curious....thanks,

This is preposterous.

What EXACTLY have I said here that remotely warrants being censored and silenced? Be specific.

All I've done here is re-post statements by people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and even Charlie Kirk himself. And those views are part of the free and open debate going on all across the internet and all of social media - including Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube.

To repeat myself for the 3rd or 4th time, Charlie Kirk himself explicitly said that October 7th was a "stand down" by the Israelis and that they are "trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza" (direct quote). Charlie Kirk also said, paraphrasing, that "elite jewish donors are the driving force behind the cultural Marxist agenda in America".

Are you seriously saying that jews and Israel cannot be criticized in ANY way, and that anyone who does "deserves" to be censored, banned, and silenced from the internet? Is that what you mean by "anti-semitism"? No criticism of jews or Israel allowed at all?

If so, then you need to censor all of this exact debate that is going on on the entire internet.

I never said what poster I was referring to...

Just ignore that guy. I can promise you that it's not worth your time even acknowledging him. Every once in a while, I forget to follow my own advice unfortunately... like yesterday.
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El Lobo Loco said:

"Hate speech" is free speech. That just means the government can't make laws against it and prosecute you for what you're saying. Nothing in the 1st Amendment about not facing repercussions from other entities such as employers, customers, message boards, etc.

FTFY
GuerrillaPack
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El Lobo Loco said:

"Hate speech" is free speech. That just means the government can't make laws against it and prosecute you for what you're saying. Nothing in the 1st Amendment about not facing repercussions from other entities such as employers, customers, etc.

I think what we are seeing now that really crosses the line (resulting in people getting fired from their jobs) is when people openly endorse and celebrate and encourage violence against other people -- such as millions of Leftists out here celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk.

Nothing remote to that is taking place in this thread or in the WC to my knowledge. I'm being critical of the state of Israel and the influence of the "Israeli lobby" over the US Government and society, such as pointing out that Epstein worked for Mossad and is blackmailing members of the US Government...as Charlie Kirk himself pointed out as well. But I absolutely have not been encouraging or advocating the use of violence against anyone. The same cannot be said for the Left, who have been openly calling for and encouraging the use of violence against conservatives for the past 8-9 years.

"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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seapineswolf said:

I don't often come over to this board very often, but reading this thread was a little disturbing, and fwiw im a conservative.

has anyone reported that one poster for some pretty hardcore anti Semitic views along with a few other forms of hate speech? I am just surprised that the owners of this site let that kind of stuff fly on their platform.

anyways, just curious....thanks,

Welcome to the fever swamps!

Yeah, a few of these guys have been reported many times. The site owners and moderator don't set foot in here, and their general attitude is that they don't want to get "Cracker Barreled", so if the loons stay in here it's a win.

Feel free to shoot James a message. Maybe if he hears it from even more people he'll eventually clean house.
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TheStorm said:

Just ignore that guy. I can promise you that it's not worth your time even acknowledging him. Every once in a while, I forget to follow my own advice unfortunately... like yesterday.

You are far, far from ignoring me. If you were ignoring me, you wouldn't be whining and crying for me to be censored constantly.

To the contrary, it seems you are obsessed with trying to silence me.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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SmaptyWolf said:

seapineswolf said:

I don't often come over to this board very often, but reading this thread was a little disturbing, and fwiw im a conservative.

has anyone reported that one poster for some pretty hardcore anti Semitic views along with a few other forms of hate speech? I am just surprised that the owners of this site let that kind of stuff fly on their platform.

anyways, just curious....thanks,

Welcome to the fever swamps!

Yeah, a few of these guys have been reported many times. The site owners and moderator don't set foot in here, and their general attitude is that they don't want to get "Cracker Barreled", so if the loons stay in here it's a win.

Feel free to shoot James a message. Maybe if he hears it from even more people he'll eventually clean house.

Give me one good reason why I should be silenced, banned, or censored. Name one.

Is your position that the nation of Israel and jews cannot be criticized in any way? If so, then the majority of your friends in the Democrat party (who support Palestine and Hamas) will need to be censored from the entire internet for the supposed thought "crime" of "anti-semitism".

You just want to selectively censor and ban conservatives and right-wing posters, on whatever pretext you can come up with.

But you are perfectly fine if Left-wing posters and activists are highly critical of Israel, or if they espouse all the "hate speech" in the world against white people, Christians -- including openly calling for and celebrating the use of violence against MAGA and Trump supporters.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
GuerrillaPack
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TheStorm said:

El Lobo Loco said:

"Hate speech" is free speech. That just means the government can't make laws against it and prosecute you for what you're saying. Nothing in the 1st Amendment about not facing repercussions from other entities such as employers, customers, message boards, etc.

FTFY

If ANYONE is going to be banned and censored from message boards, it should be anti free speech crybabies and whiners like you.

I can only imagine what a pain in the arse it must be for a message board moderator and owner to be constantly harassed and bothered by whining cry babies who are constantly screeching "Waaaah...daddy moderator please censor those bad men who are saying things I disagree with....Waaaaah"
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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I was almost banned on this board by a liberal leaning Mod because I said studies showed the Covid shot did not work .

packgrad
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Bas2020 said:

I was almost banned on this board by a liberal leaning Mod because I said studies showed the Covid shot did not work .




Same. glass even campaigned on the sports board to get me banned during Covid. Tried to fire up the lynch mob. I think that is the real reason they have stopped moderating this board. The guys that were "moderating" were trying to moderate like they did at Pack Pride.
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IF a conservative leaning comedian wore 'black face' they would've been cancelled and sent to a firing squad .

Yet when lying Jimmy Kimmel did it they didn't say a peep.

Funny how I can point to hundreds of examples of liberal hypocrisy.
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How pathetic do you have to be that the only way you can "win" an argument is silence the people you disagree with?

If any person's ideology is true, then they should have nothing to fear of what anyone will say. That's my position. Do you think I want to censor Leftists when they espouse anything -- such as transgender insanity, or all of their "hate speech" against white people and MAGA people? Absolutely not. I encourage them to have full freedom of speech and spew their insanity for all the world to see. I want them to freely speak their mind on what they really believe on everything. Because the more they speak their lies, the more they are fully exposed for how wrong they are....and the more it proves my own position to be the one that is good and true.

If you think anything I'm saying is "false", such as the power of the jewish and Israeli lobby in America...then counter that view with some logic or facts and your own argument. But no, what you are doing is to cry and whine for people like me to be silenced and censored. You are proving that you cannot counter this argument with logic or facts. Because what I'm saying is objectively true, and cannot be refuted with an argument. And so your only recourse is to shoot the messenger and try to silence those speaking those truths.

"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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packgrad said:

Bas2020 said:

I was almost banned on this board by a liberal leaning Mod because I said studies showed the Covid shot did not work .




Same. glass even campaigned on the sports board to get me banned during Covid. Tried to fire up the lynch mob. I think that is the real reason they have stopped moderating this board. The guys that were "moderating" were trying to moderate like they did at Pack Pride.


Bingo . That's what they called the liberal 'misinformation' phase where they cancelled anybody that disagreed with their propaganda. They called it misinformation.

Turns out we weee once again right in the end .
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packgrad said:

Bas2020 said:

I was almost banned on this board by a liberal leaning Mod because I said studies showed the Covid shot did not work .




Same. glass even campaigned on the sports board to get me banned during Covid. Tried to fire up the lynch mob. I think that is the real reason they have stopped moderating this board. The guys that were "moderating" were trying to moderate like they did at Pack Pride.

Yep. I felt the pressure of censorship too on covid, and other views I expressed in the WC from Glass. But that was many years ago, and things have gotten much better in the WC for about the past 4 years.

And I have a lot of respect for James and Steve for allowing the WC to function as it does now. It would be a BIG mistake to allow Leftist moderators to censor half or more of their users/customers, to advance a Left-leaning agenda...as apparently done on PP.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
 
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