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Ill also add that since I got into this business, the complaints about ATC funding, inadequate staffing, and lagging technology have never stopped.

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Thankfully Trump has already frozen ATC hiring, disbanded the Aviation Safety Advisory Committee, offered buyouts/retirements to all existing, experienced ATCs (as well as the TSA, etc), and of course tried to freeze research grants for things like, say, better ATC technology. That should help.

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Blatant lies from smapty. Not surprised the fake arbiters of truth have not corrected this due to their TDS. Federal air traffic controllers are exempt from the hiring freeze. More fake news/misinformation/gaslighting from the left.

This is why democrats are flailing in polls.

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yeah none of this matters relative to this accident.

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Yeah. I expected that to be when you'd police response, per usual. Feign outrage and judge, fake ass.

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um, I'm agreeing with you.

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LOLOL

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Ill also add that since I got into this business, the complaints about ATC funding, inadequate staffing, and lagging technology have never stopped.

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Thankfully Trump has already frozen ATC hiring, disbanded the Aviation Safety Advisory Committee, offered buyouts/retirements to all existing, experienced ATCs (as well as the TSA, etc), and of course tried to freeze research grants for things like, say, better ATC technology. That should help.

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Blatant lies from smapty. Not surprised the fake arbiters of truth have not corrected this due to their TDS. Federal air traffic controllers are exempt from the hiring freeze. More fake news/misinformation/gaslighting from the left.

This is why democrats are flailing in polls.

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yeah none of this matters relative to this accident.

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Of course it doesn't matter relative to this incident.

Anyway, Trump's orders have tended to be poorly written and confusing, so there is a lot of conflicting info going around, but it does look like ATCs were exempt from the hiring freeze. It's not clear if they were offered buyouts, though, along with huge swaths of the government. The TSA apparently was. Trump did disband the Aviation Safety Advisory Committee, and of course tried to freeze all research grants.

The point is that this plane crash was a perfectly timed metaphor for what these guys are about to do to this country. "Dismantle the gubmint" makes a great bumper sticker for folks who aren't good at thinking about things for more than 30 seconds, but it's going to have wide-ranging unintended negative consequences.

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3 edits-LOLOLOL. Must be hard for you to think more than 30 seconds?

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Since all you ever type is "herp de durp!" I can see why the edit button is funny to you.

Another one just crashed in Philadelphia, what is going on?

This is the precise moment when a plane just crashed in Philadelphia, with numerous casualties now reported.

What do you notice? pic.twitter.com/CuVjcKLrzq

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) January 31, 2025

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Another one just crashed in Philadelphia, what is going on?

This is the precise moment when a plane just crashed in Philadelphia, with numerous casualties now reported.

What do you notice? pic.twitter.com/CuVjcKLrzq

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) January 31, 2025

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Geez, that's terrible.

Just leaving State UNC. Is this real? I hope not.

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Just leaving State UNC. Is this real? I hope not.

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It's a small passenger plane, maybe 6 from Mexico here for an emergency medical procedure. Probably casualties on the ground too.

Yesterday we lost so many bright talents, among them thirteen year old Jinna Han. Every testimony about Jinna regards her as a selfless, positive, and extremely hard working person. Jinna would’ve turned junior next season and we honour her and her immense talent today 🕊️ pic.twitter.com/PbUTyo2Ivt

— jr skaters archive (@jrskating) January 30, 2025

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Just leaving State UNC. Is this real? I hope not.

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Unfortunately it is.

Michael Jaco, former Navy Seal Team 6 and CIA evaluates Blackhawk flight.
Michael Jaco Situation Update Jan 30: "Was It A False Flag Airline Jet And Military Helo Fiery Crash Into The Freezing Potomac River?"

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Just leaving State UNC. Is this real? I hope not.

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It's a small passenger plane, maybe 6 from Mexico here for an emergency medical procedure. Probably casualties on the ground too.

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She Just had "lifesaving" medical treatment in Philadelphia. Life is cruel.

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Just leaving State UNC. Is this real? I hope not.

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It's a small passenger plane, maybe 6 from Mexico here for an emergency medical procedure. Probably casualties on the ground too.

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She Just had "lifesaving" medical treatment in Philadelphia. Life is cruel.

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Wow that's absolutely horrible.

So sad to read. My condolensces

One of our best, US Senator Ron Johnson.

🚨Sen. Ron Johnson suggests the Blackhawk Helicopter INTENTIONALLY slammed into the airliner at Reagan International:

"It looked like that helicopter purposely ran into the airliner. Did the pilot close their eyes? How can you not see an airplane by International airport?" pic.twitter.com/fpCQsPQSli

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) January 31, 2025

Jaco talked about the Eagle and Philadelphia the morning after the DC mid-air collision .....before the Lear Jet crash. One helluva coincidence.

https://instagr.am/p/DFiB5L5AP3d

Another analysis finding the helicopter at fault:

The media doesn’t know what it’s getting into picking a fight with Trump over DEI in air travel.

Here’s the facts: The Obama Administration threw out ALL the results of a merit-based air traffic controller hiring test, wrecking the career plans of people who’d spent thousands of… pic.twitter.com/nsonwsVaPS

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 31, 2025

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FAA embroiled in lawsuit alleging it turned away 1,000 applicants based on race that contributed to staffing woes

https://nypost.com/2025/01/31/us-news/faa-embroiled-in-lawsuit-alleging-it-turned-away-1000-applicants-based-on-race/
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Something to watch as democrats have put millions of Americans in danger to check boxes.

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In the video I posted "Countdown to the Next Air Disaster," they interviewed a guy who got a perfect score on the controller test, but did not do well on the DEI test they also gave. There are many more that scored really high on the controller test but did not get jobs. This is what bloated and woke government gets you.

Damn. Blackhawk pilot was from Durham.

Third solider inside Black Hawk helicopter involved in DC midair collision identified https://t.co/IqvgaXVygJ

— Fox News (@FoxNews) February 1, 2025

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Damn. Blackhawk pilot was from Durham.

Third solider inside Black Hawk helicopter involved in DC midair collision identified https://t.co/IqvgaXVygJ

— Fox News (@FoxNews) February 1, 2025

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damn. They're a good family.

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Damn. Blackhawk pilot was from Durham.

Third solider inside Black Hawk helicopter involved in DC midair collision identified https://t.co/IqvgaXVygJ

— Fox News (@FoxNews) February 1, 2025

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Wait, no despicable comment about the pilot being a DEI hire?

This latest crash in Philly looks like it might have been spatial disorientation. Sad.

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FAA embroiled in lawsuit alleging it turned away 1,000 applicants based on race that contributed to staffing woes

https://nypost.com/2025/01/31/us-news/faa-embroiled-in-lawsuit-alleging-it-turned-away-1000-applicants-based-on-race/
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Something to watch as democrats have put millions of Americans in danger to check boxes.

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In the video I posted "Countdown to the Next Air Disaster," they interviewed a guy who got a perfect score on the controller test, but did not do well on the DEI test they also gave. There are many more that scored really high on the controller test but did not get jobs. This is what bloated and woke government gets you.

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This should be concerning to all Americans. I've been in aviation nearly 20 years and unfortunately I think we are just starting to see the damage done by democrats and their woke/DEI policies.

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The media doesn’t know what it’s getting into picking a fight with Trump over DEI in air travel.

Here’s the facts: The Obama Administration threw out ALL the results of a merit-based air traffic controller hiring test, wrecking the career plans of people who’d spent thousands of… pic.twitter.com/nsonwsVaPS

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 31, 2025

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Despite the hourly outrage from CNN and our liberal friends here it appears President Trump was correct again when he called out DEI hiring practices just after the accident.

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The media doesn’t know what it’s getting into picking a fight with Trump over DEI in air travel.

Here’s the facts: The Obama Administration threw out ALL the results of a merit-based air traffic controller hiring test, wrecking the career plans of people who’d spent thousands of… pic.twitter.com/nsonwsVaPS

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 31, 2025

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Despite the hourly outrage from CNN and our liberal friends here it appears President Trump was correct again when he called out DEI hiring practices just after the accident.

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We're not going to wait for the actual investigation, it's just DEI? What about the tower being understaffed because someone was sick so that one ATC was handling landings and helicopter traffic? That plays no part I suppose.

Look, I'm no fan of DEI policies, but events like this are rarely boiled down to one single thing that lead to an accident. It's just incredibly short sighted to declare that DEI is the only reason this accident occurred because the real reforms that may be needed will be ignored.

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The media doesn’t know what it’s getting into picking a fight with Trump over DEI in air travel.

Here’s the facts: The Obama Administration threw out ALL the results of a merit-based air traffic controller hiring test, wrecking the career plans of people who’d spent thousands of… pic.twitter.com/nsonwsVaPS

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 31, 2025

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Despite the hourly outrage from CNN and our liberal friends here it appears President Trump was correct again when he called out DEI hiring practices just after the accident.

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We're not going to wait for the actual investigation, it's just DEI? What about the tower being understaffed because someone was sick so that one ATC was handling landings and helicopter traffic? That plays no part I suppose.

Look, I'm no fan of DEI policies, but events like this are rarely boiled down to one single thing that lead to an accident. It's just incredibly short sighted to declare that DEI is the only reason this accident occurred because the real reforms that may be needed will be ignored.

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According to the lawsuit the FAA is facing, they have turned away 1000 qualified applicants in favor of DEI.

Do you not think that those 1000 applicants could have filled in across the nation. Would having 1000 MORE applicants not help?!

Why is this so hard to understand?

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Because we don't know what caused the accident.

Trump literally started spouting off about DEI when search and rescue/recovery operations were still underway. It was grossly inappropriate. There will be a time to research causes and lay blame, and that time ain't when bodies are still being recovered from the Potomac.

Why is this so hard to understand?

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The media doesn’t know what it’s getting into picking a fight with Trump over DEI in air travel.

Here’s the facts: The Obama Administration threw out ALL the results of a merit-based air traffic controller hiring test, wrecking the career plans of people who’d spent thousands of… pic.twitter.com/nsonwsVaPS

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 31, 2025

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Despite the hourly outrage from CNN and our liberal friends here it appears President Trump was correct again when he called out DEI hiring practices just after the accident.

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We're not going to wait for the actual investigation, it's just DEI? What about the tower being understaffed because someone was sick so that one ATC was handling landings and helicopter traffic? That plays no part I suppose.

Look, I'm no fan of DEI policies, but events like this are rarely boiled down to one single thing that lead to an accident. It's just incredibly short sighted to declare that DEI is the only reason this accident occurred because the real reforms that may be needed will be ignored.

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According to the lawsuit the FAA is facing, they have turned away 1000 qualified applicants in favor of DEI.

Do you not think that those 1000 applicants could have filled in across the nation. Would having 1000 MORE applicants not help?!

Why is this so hard to understand?

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why is it hard for you to understand that it's not the ONLY reason this accident occurred, and that the lessons learned from the other causes of this accident are most likely going to be more important than hiring practices.

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The media doesn’t know what it’s getting into picking a fight with Trump over DEI in air travel.

Here’s the facts: The Obama Administration threw out ALL the results of a merit-based air traffic controller hiring test, wrecking the career plans of people who’d spent thousands of… pic.twitter.com/nsonwsVaPS

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 31, 2025

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Despite the hourly outrage from CNN and our liberal friends here it appears President Trump was correct again when he called out DEI hiring practices just after the accident.

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We're not going to wait for the actual investigation, it's just DEI? What about the tower being understaffed because someone was sick so that one ATC was handling landings and helicopter traffic? That plays no part I suppose.

Look, I'm no fan of DEI policies, but events like this are rarely boiled down to one single thing that lead to an accident. It's just incredibly short sighted to declare that DEI is the only reason this accident occurred because the real reforms that may be needed will be ignored.

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According to the lawsuit the FAA is facing, they have turned away 1000 qualified applicants in favor of DEI.

Do you not think that those 1000 applicants could have filled in across the nation. Would having 1000 MORE applicants not help?!

Why is this so hard to understand?

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why is it hard for you to understand that it's not the ONLY reason this accident occurred, and that the lessons learned from the other causes of this accident are most likely going to be more important than hiring practices.

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I never said it was the only reason this accident happened. But would having 1000 MORE people, who the FAA turned away for DEI, be a bad thing?

Again you and Civ simply refuse to admit the democrats and their DEI policies have done tremendous damage to the FAA.

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The media doesn’t know what it’s getting into picking a fight with Trump over DEI in air travel.

Here’s the facts: The Obama Administration threw out ALL the results of a merit-based air traffic controller hiring test, wrecking the career plans of people who’d spent thousands of… pic.twitter.com/nsonwsVaPS

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 31, 2025

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Despite the hourly outrage from CNN and our liberal friends here it appears President Trump was correct again when he called out DEI hiring practices just after the accident.

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We're not going to wait for the actual investigation, it's just DEI? What about the tower being understaffed because someone was sick so that one ATC was handling landings and helicopter traffic? That plays no part I suppose.

Look, I'm no fan of DEI policies, but events like this are rarely boiled down to one single thing that lead to an accident. It's just incredibly short sighted to declare that DEI is the only reason this accident occurred because the real reforms that may be needed will be ignored.

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According to the lawsuit the FAA is facing, they have turned away 1000 qualified applicants in favor of DEI.

Do you not think that those 1000 applicants could have filled in across the nation. Would having 1000 MORE applicants not help?!

Why is this so hard to understand?

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why is it hard for you to understand that it's not the ONLY reason this accident occurred, and that the lessons learned from the other causes of this accident are most likely going to be more important than hiring practices.

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I never said it was the only reason this accident happened. But would having 1000 MORE people, who the FAA turned away for DEI, be a bad thing?

Again you and Civ simply refuse to admit the democrats and their DEI policies have done tremendous damage to the FAA.

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I nor you know what the staffing needs are for this particular tower nor do we know how people are scheduled for working at DCA. Let's figure that out and fix it before we decide that a policy is the issue. I think we'll find it was not as big as it's being made out to be