2024 Elections

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packgrad
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Driving around Durham and Chapel Hill this morning. Crazy how there are hardly any Trump signs up now (honestly I haven't seen any, but I'm sure there are some somewhere.) and there are Harris signs everywhere Wasn't this way last week....
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packgrad said:

Driving around Durham and Chapel Hill this morning. Crazy how there are hardly any Trump signs up now (honestly I haven't seen any, but I'm sure there are some somewhere.) and there are Harris signs everywhere Wasn't this way last week....


They are being ripped out and stolen or knocked over by the intolerant, anti free speech, anti-democratic authoritarian commie libtards. I'm in Hillsborough, and have seen Trump signs in various spots on the roadside, and then a day later they have been stolen or knocked over.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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packgrad said:

Driving around Durham and Chapel Hill this morning. Crazy how there are hardly any Trump signs up now (honestly I haven't seen any, but I'm sure there are some somewhere.) and there are Harris signs everywhere Wasn't this way last week....
That's the darkest blue area of NC. Doesn't surprise me at all. Dems get a higher share of vote in those counties than even Mecklenburg or Wake and those are deep blue as well.
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Looks like we will need to keep a close eye on NH election night. Is looking more like a toss up state now. Consensus has been it's a lean to likely blue state since Biden won it pretty handily 4 years ago but people forget that there's a decent Trump base there and Trump lost to Clinton by a mere .3% or a few thousand votes. I don't necessarily feel good about NH for Trump. But the biggest reason I'm watching it is b/c if for some reason he pulled off an upset there then any kind of election fraud schemes being hatched in the rust belt will cease or be relevant. We can actually get a result potentially on Tues night or early Wed morning if NH breaks Trump. I hope for a blowout victory honestly to curb violence and uncertainty. There will be violence either way but should be much less if result is beyond contestation.
packgrad
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ncsualum05 said:

packgrad said:

Driving around Durham and Chapel Hill this morning. Crazy how there are hardly any Trump signs up now (honestly I haven't seen any, but I'm sure there are some somewhere.) and there are Harris signs everywhere Wasn't this way last week....
That's the darkest blue area of NC. Doesn't surprise me at all. Dems get a higher share of vote in those counties than even Mecklenburg or Wake and those are deep blue as well.


I don't disagree with that. My point was moreso that Trump signs are not there now, and Harris signs are. This was not the case last week.
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I drive around a lot with my business and there are more Blue signs than Red, especially in Orange and Durham Counties. I have seen plenty Republican signs in most places I travel to including in Wake County.
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packgrad
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DrummerboyWolf said:

I drive around a lot with my business and there are more Blue signs than Red, especially in Orange and Durham Counties. I have seen plenty Republican signs in most places I travel to including in Wake County.


Me too. Until today.

Edit to add. I think the blitz actually started Friday. We had one put up in front of our office in the late afternoon, that was promptly removed.
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Anybody been to any of the rallies in/around Raleigh? I think Trump was down east (Kinston?) yesterday.

I went to see Reagan in Reynolds when I was a kid, that was the last one I've been to.

Had some neighbors went to Harris rally last week, they said it was fun and well-done.

Trump at Dorton Arena this morning. Mom's next-door neighbor heading over for that one. This lady is a massive Trumper. She assembles her Trump crew at her house to watch his big events on TV and cook out and tailgate the same way we all do State games. It's wild.
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packgrad said:

Driving around Durham and Chapel Hill this morning. Crazy how there are hardly any Trump signs up now (honestly I haven't seen any, but I'm sure there are some somewhere.) and there are Harris signs everywhere Wasn't this way last week....
The only place I have seen Harris signs is in DT Raleigh on the same streets that proudly show rainbow flags.

Nothing but Trump in the suburbs around Wake County.
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packgrad said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

I drive around a lot with my business and there are more Blue signs than Red, especially in Orange and Durham Counties. I have seen plenty Republican signs in most places I travel to including in Wake County.


Me too. Until today.

Edit to add. I think the blitz actually started Friday. We had one put up in front of our office in the late afternoon, that was promptly removed.
One of the local Elems is a voting location. Last Friday there was no signs out in front of the school. Now it's all Harris signs.

Someone placed them over the weekend.
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Wufpack17 said:

packgrad said:

Driving around Durham and Chapel Hill this morning. Crazy how there are hardly any Trump signs up now (honestly I haven't seen any, but I'm sure there are some somewhere.) and there are Harris signs everywhere Wasn't this way last week....
The only place I have seen Harris signs is in DT Raleigh on the same streets that proudly show rainbow flags.

Nothing but Trump in the suburbs around Wake County.
In North Raleigh around the North Ridge area, been seeing plenty of both signs the last several weeks.
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Is there anyone on here who hasn't voted yet?

I'm genuinely curious.
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El Lobo Loco said:

Is there anyone on here who hasn't voted yet?

I'm genuinely curious.
I haven't, but it's not for lack of knowing who all I'm voting for, it's more family/work activities last week prevented me from getting in to early vote when I intended to.

I'll be in line tomorrow to get my "I Voted" sticker.
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whatever has happened over the last 72 hours, its feels like there has been a palpable shift towards harris over the wknd. the blue sign shift has been noticeable too, theyre stretching further into the rural areas than they have before.
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El Lobo Loco said:

Is there anyone on here who hasn't voted yet?

I'm genuinely curious.
I havent. My polling spot is all of 600 yards from my front door, so as long as I am in town, I just walk over first thing in the morning.
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El Lobo Loco said:

Is there anyone on here who hasn't voted yet?

I'm genuinely curious.

Yes.

I love the pageantry of Election Day so I always vote in person the day-of.
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Wlfpk81 said:

whatever has happened over the last 72 hours, its feels like there has been a palpable shift towards harris over the wknd. the blue sign shift has been noticeable too, theyre stretching further into the rural areas than they have before.

What happened was a disastrous MSG rally with a week left in the campaign where his campaign thought an insult comic that gave a giant middle finger to Puerto Ricans, Hispanics, black people, Jews, and by association the rest of us, was just what the doctor ordered.

Then following that up with a steady stream of unusually unhinged Trump behavior over the last week, including him stumbling into a Trump-branded garbage truck like a muni sanitation worker that started day-drinking at 10 AM to be driven in circles around the runway, and culminating late in the week with him fellating a mic stand in front of a worldwide audience.

This last week will certainly not be a shining example decades from now of a well-executed closing salvo of a Presidential campaign.
packgrad
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What happened is Democrats put up signs. That's it.

That and they murdered a squirrel because they are the party of hate.
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Final betting markets

Presidential betting odds as of 11/4

Bet 365

Donald Trump: -138
Kamala Harris: +120
via Covers.com

Bovada

Donald Trump: -140
Kamala Harris: +120


BetOnline

Donald Trump: -140
Kamala Harris: +120

Oddschecker

Donald Trump: -133
Kamala Harris: +150

Harris closed some.
packgrad
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I do love how clownfish likes to gaslight about Trump looking drunk knowing that Trump doesn't drink and his candidate is an alcoholic Coke head.

Zero integrity.
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Wlfpk81 said:

whatever has happened over the last 72 hours, its feels like there has been a palpable shift towards harris over the wknd. the blue sign shift has been noticeable too, theyre stretching further into the rural areas than they have before.
I heard a guy say over the weekend that it's more important to notice the signs in front yards than the signs on the side of the road. One activist can put up hundreds of signs along the road.
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Wlfpk81 said:

whatever has happened over the last 72 hours, its feels like there has been a palpable shift towards harris over the wknd. the blue sign shift has been noticeable too, theyre stretching further into the rural areas than they have before.
That's your state run propaganda media arm making you feel that way. In reality nothing has changed or moved. Blue signs are last ditch efforts to try to drum up enthusiasm. Signs don't matter, rallies really don't matter and I learned that the last couple cycles. The news media is the democrat party. Not biased, not like, but is. They are the Kamala campaign for the most part.

The numbers are where they are. Democrats are hoping to suppress the election day vote from republicans or make people think twice. If republicans show up on election day like expected then this will be a bigger win than 2016. Republicans make up 39% of the early vote NATIONALLY to Democrats 41%. That's unheard of. Election day vote breaks right historically and all signs point to that again. Kamala has given up on the sun belt states like NC, GA, AZ, etc. She is spending all her energy in JUST PA right now b/c it is her only and best shot. She has almost no path left except PA. Election day vote polling has Trump up around 11-12. Independents are breaking for Trump by around 6 pts nationally.

I look at Rich Baris, Rasmussen, Atlas Intel, and Trafalgar for the best polling. They are branded as "right wing" pollsters but they are actually trying do an accurate job and have been proven most accurate the last couple cycles.
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Wlfpk81 said:

whatever has happened over the last 72 hours, its feels like there has been a palpable shift towards harris over the wknd. the blue sign shift has been noticeable too, theyre stretching further into the rural areas than they have before.
The ebb and flow of both campaigns. Democrats have the money and they have spent enormous amounts of cash. As poster said, look at yards when looking at signs. Also, Pubs have done much better job of early voting which will be interesting to see how it plays out. Very few left who are undecided. Key for both parties will now be election day turnout. So many variables in this election that are hard to pin down. TBH, like a roller coaster, one day I feel good about Trump's chances and the next day not so good. We will know soon!
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Over the last week, I felt Trump had the momentum, but since that Iowa poll came out, seems Harris has it.

It may be that the media is all over that one poll and that Dem's are saying they don't expect her to win Iowa, but it does feel she is in control since about Saturday.

The NY Times has her ahead in all the swing states except AZ. That doesn't seem right.

Going to be a fun Tuesday night.
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Realsouthwolf said:


Over the last week, I felt Trump had the momentum, but since that Iowa poll came out, seems Harris has it.

It may be that the media is all over that one poll and that Dem's are saying they don't expect her to win Iowa, but it does feel she is in control since about Saturday.

The NY Times has her ahead in all the swing states except AZ. That doesn't seem right.

Going to be a fun Tuesday night.

Trafalgar shows Trump ahead in all seven swing states. Who knows what the reality is right now?
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packgrad said:

I do love how clownfish likes to gaslight about Trump looking drunk knowing that Trump doesn't drink and his candidate is an alcoholic Coke head.



Zero integrity.


The next time Civ talks about the person he's voting for will be the first.
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Realsouthwolf said:


Over the last week, I felt Trump had the momentum, but since that Iowa poll came out, seems Harris has it.

It may be that the media is all over that one poll and that Dem's are saying they don't expect her to win Iowa, but it does feel she is in control since about Saturday.

The NY Times has her ahead in all the swing states except AZ. That doesn't seem right.

Going to be a fun Tuesday night.
That poll was complete garbage and simply a propaganda tool. Whatever her track record is good or bad she put out some bull**** to drum up some drama.

Iowa had a statewide registration in 2020 of R +1. Trump won Iowa by 8 points in 2020. He also won it by over 8 points in 2016. The country largely moved left in 2020 and Iowa didn't move.

Now in 2024 the registration is R +10.4. You have to look at real data and do the math. Also look at trends around the country and in similar states. And look at all the other polling as well.

Once you pay attention long enough it's easier to spot bull***** Trump takes Iowa by at least 10.

Trump will win all the battleground states. They'll be close and they'll be some counting controversies but he should win them all. Even Michigan. I think the biggest question is how close do states like NH, MN, and VA really come to potentially a surprise flip. I don't think Trump wins any of them but I feel like some are going to be razor tight.
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ncsualum05 said:

Realsouthwolf said:


Over the last week, I felt Trump had the momentum, but since that Iowa poll came out, seems Harris has it.

It may be that the media is all over that one poll and that Dem's are saying they don't expect her to win Iowa, but it does feel she is in control since about Saturday.

The NY Times has her ahead in all the swing states except AZ. That doesn't seem right.

Going to be a fun Tuesday night.
That poll was complete garbage and simply a propaganda tool. Whatever her track record is good or bad she put out some bull**** to drum up some drama.

Iowa had a statewide registration in 2020 of R +1. Trump won Iowa by 8 points in 2020. He also won it by over 8 points in 2016. The country largely moved left in 2020 and Iowa didn't move.

Now in 2024 the registration is R +10.4. You have to look at real data and do the math. Also look at trends around the country and in similar states. And look at all the other polling as well.

Once you pay attention long enough it's easier to spot bull***** Trump takes Iowa by at least 10.

Trump will win all the battleground states. They'll be close and they'll be some counting controversies but he should win them all. Even Michigan. I think the biggest question is how close do states like NH, MN, and VA really come to potentially a surprise flip. I don't think Trump wins any of them but I feel like some are going to be razor tight.
100%. Before the election in 2016 and 2020, the bogus Lamestream media promoted "polls" were claiming that Trump was losing to Hillary and Biden nationally by roughly 8-10 points both times. Then, of course, with the actual election results Trump only lost the national popular vote by around 2 or 3 points.

The Leftist media promoted polls are a bunch of doctored/fabricated "push polls" which are designed to try to influence public opinion.

"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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ncsualum05 said:

Realsouthwolf said:


Over the last week, I felt Trump had the momentum, but since that Iowa poll came out, seems Harris has it.

It may be that the media is all over that one poll and that Dem's are saying they don't expect her to win Iowa, but it does feel she is in control since about Saturday.

The NY Times has her ahead in all the swing states except AZ. That doesn't seem right.

Going to be a fun Tuesday night.
That poll was complete garbage and simply a propaganda tool. Whatever her track record is good or bad she put out some bull**** to drum up some drama.

Iowa had a statewide registration in 2020 of R +1. Trump won Iowa by 8 points in 2020. He also won it by over 8 points in 2016. The country largely moved left in 2020 and Iowa didn't move.

Now in 2024 the registration is R +10.4. You have to look at real data and do the math. Also look at trends around the country and in similar states. And look at all the other polling as well.

Once you pay attention long enough it's easier to spot bull***** Trump takes Iowa by at least 10.

Trump will win all the battleground states. They'll be close and they'll be some counting controversies but he should win them all. Even Michigan. I think the biggest question is how close do states like NH, MN, and VA really come to potentially a surprise flip. I don't think Trump wins any of them but I feel like some are going to be razor tight.

What's the impetus for Selzer to fabricate Iowa poll results in a way that creates reputational harm for her firm if she's wrong?

I mean she may be wrong but her incentives aren't aligned with being wrong on purpose to "drum up drama."
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Civilized said:

ncsualum05 said:

Realsouthwolf said:


Over the last week, I felt Trump had the momentum, but since that Iowa poll came out, seems Harris has it.

It may be that the media is all over that one poll and that Dem's are saying they don't expect her to win Iowa, but it does feel she is in control since about Saturday.

The NY Times has her ahead in all the swing states except AZ. That doesn't seem right.

Going to be a fun Tuesday night.
That poll was complete garbage and simply a propaganda tool. Whatever her track record is good or bad she put out some bull**** to drum up some drama.

Iowa had a statewide registration in 2020 of R +1. Trump won Iowa by 8 points in 2020. He also won it by over 8 points in 2016. The country largely moved left in 2020 and Iowa didn't move.

Now in 2024 the registration is R +10.4. You have to look at real data and do the math. Also look at trends around the country and in similar states. And look at all the other polling as well.

Once you pay attention long enough it's easier to spot bull***** Trump takes Iowa by at least 10.

Trump will win all the battleground states. They'll be close and they'll be some counting controversies but he should win them all. Even Michigan. I think the biggest question is how close do states like NH, MN, and VA really come to potentially a surprise flip. I don't think Trump wins any of them but I feel like some are going to be razor tight.

What's the impetus for Selzer to fabricate Iowa poll results in a way that creates reputational harm for her firm if she's wrong?

I mean she may be wrong but her incentives aren't aligned with being wrong on purpose to "drum up drama."
I don't know and I don't care. If you poll a state with that clear of a voting trend, is not considered a battleground, and you're to the left of your fellow pollsters by 13 pts then you should be second guessing your efforts. You're pumping garbage at that point by releasing that and going onto the media. If there's no motivation behind it you're just embarrassing yourself for nothing. If some pollster came out with a Trump +3 in Colorado I would dismiss it as garbage and I'm sure the left would jump all over it as well. That's how bad that poll is.
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Oldsouljer said:

It's not apparently illegal in Virginia

Been in Va for 4 days with my 7-yr old grandson. Signs in yards from Waynesboro to Charlottesville to Fredricksburg to Richmond.......15 to 1 Trump.
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Pa, Mi, Wi, Az, Nv and Ga.......election fraud is their plan.
https://x.com/Hustle*****_/status/1852484663870423213
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ncsualum05 said:

Realsouthwolf said:


Over the last week, I felt Trump had the momentum, but since that Iowa poll came out, seems Harris has it.

It may be that the media is all over that one poll and that Dem's are saying they don't expect her to win Iowa, but it does feel she is in control since about Saturday.

The NY Times has her ahead in all the swing states except AZ. That doesn't seem right.

Going to be a fun Tuesday night.
That poll was complete garbage and simply a propaganda tool. Whatever her track record is good or bad she put out some bull**** to drum up some drama.

Iowa had a statewide registration in 2020 of R +1. Trump won Iowa by 8 points in 2020. He also won it by over 8 points in 2016. The country largely moved left in 2020 and Iowa didn't move.

Now in 2024 the registration is R +10.4. You have to look at real data and do the math. Also look at trends around the country and in similar states. And look at all the other polling as well.

Once you pay attention long enough it's easier to spot bull***** Trump takes Iowa by at least 10.

Trump will win all the battleground states. They'll be close and they'll be some counting controversies but he should win them all. Even Michigan. I think the biggest question is how close do states like NH, MN, and VA really come to potentially a surprise flip. I don't think Trump wins any of them but I feel like some are going to be razor tight.
If I had to put money on any of the rust belt states, it'd be Wisconsin. I'm basing that on a fair amount of gloom by certain Dems including Elissa Slotkin who has said that Harris is significantly underwater there. PA, I just don't know about because of Philadelphia, and Michigan is completely dominated at the state level by Dems so I'd have a hard time thinking Trump will take it.
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