wolfbreath said:

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A Biden donor is having second thoughts...

This is the email I just sent to 28 Democrats -- 12 Senators, 15 House members and one governor (Wes Moore):

Dear [],

You may be surprised to hear that I am NOT writing to ask you to persuade President Biden to withdraw from the race.

Rather, I am asking you to tell him that…

— Whitney Tilson (@WhitneyTilson) June 30, 2024

Investor Whitney Tilson, a longtime donor to President Joe Biden, says he's reconsidering his support for Biden after his stumbling performance at last week's presidential debate.

"I feel deceived. For months my Republican friends have been sending me videos from Twitter and Fox 'News' that appear to show Biden's dementia," Tilson wrote in an X post on Saturday.

"Though I was concerned, I was mostly able to dismiss these often deceptively-edited videos as the usual Republican attack machine idiocy because I remember how they tried to do the same to Hillary in 2016," he continued. "But the debate changed all that."

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LOL at…

"The end of our democracy? Women and minorities see decades of progress erased? A larger, more radical conservative majority in the Supreme Court locked in for a generation? Abortion banned nationwide? Ukraine handed to Putin on a platter? More tax cuts for the rich? Free rein for polluters leading to soaring temperatures, rising seas and more violent weather? "

The above statement is ridiculous. TDS is strong. And relying on the very media (60 minutes, NY Times, liberal late night shows) that have protected Biden from the start of the 2020 campaign until last week, laughable.

Tapper doubling down…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tapper-blasts-democrats-orwellian-tactics-105639095.html

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Maher urges Democrats to hold open convention, throws support behind Newsom

https://www.yahoo.com/news/maher-urges-democrats-hold-open-191733284.html

Should Biden and the Democrats take up Maher's advice, the "Real Time with Bill Maher" host said he would support California Gov. Gavin Newsom, whose name has been repeatedly floated as a potential replacement.

"Watching him [Newsom] make the case against Mr. Trump in the pre-debate interviews, and defend Mr. Biden post-debate, reminded me: This guy is good at this," Maher said. "Yes, he has too much 'California baggage' some of which I myself don't love but the contrast to how he prosecutes the case against Mr. Trump and how Mr. Biden did couldn't be clearer. He's forceful, never at a loss for words or stats, never stumbles, never intimidated. He's un-bullyable, and that's important against Mr. Trump."
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Uhmm...No

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Newsome scares me, afraid he may talk his way into it.

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Nah, DeSantis made him look like a complete fool in their made for TV debate several months back...

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Newsom is a nut that runs a nut state. I'm not to worried about him.

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Hope you're right

jkpackfan said:

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jkpackfan said:

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wolfbreath said:

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Maher urges Democrats to hold open convention, throws support behind Newsom

https://www.yahoo.com/news/maher-urges-democrats-hold-open-191733284.html

Should Biden and the Democrats take up Maher's advice, the "Real Time with Bill Maher" host said he would support California Gov. Gavin Newsom, whose name has been repeatedly floated as a potential replacement.

"Watching him [Newsom] make the case against Mr. Trump in the pre-debate interviews, and defend Mr. Biden post-debate, reminded me: This guy is good at this," Maher said. "Yes, he has too much 'California baggage' some of which I myself don't love but the contrast to how he prosecutes the case against Mr. Trump and how Mr. Biden did couldn't be clearer. He's forceful, never at a loss for words or stats, never stumbles, never intimidated. He's un-bullyable, and that's important against Mr. Trump."
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Uhmm...No

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Newsome scares me, afraid he may talk his way into it.

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Nah, DeSantis made him look like a complete fool in their made for TV debate several months back...

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Newsom is a nut that runs a nut state. I'm not to worried about him.

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Hope you're right

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He has zero push back in California, that isn't going to work in the rest of the country. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to see him struggle in a debate, when has he ever had to really defend his policies?

ncsupack1 said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Maher urges Democrats to hold open convention, throws support behind Newsom

https://www.yahoo.com/news/maher-urges-democrats-hold-open-191733284.html

Should Biden and the Democrats take up Maher's advice, the "Real Time with Bill Maher" host said he would support California Gov. Gavin Newsom, whose name has been repeatedly floated as a potential replacement.

"Watching him [Newsom] make the case against Mr. Trump in the pre-debate interviews, and defend Mr. Biden post-debate, reminded me: This guy is good at this," Maher said. "Yes, he has too much 'California baggage' some of which I myself don't love but the contrast to how he prosecutes the case against Mr. Trump and how Mr. Biden did couldn't be clearer. He's forceful, never at a loss for words or stats, never stumbles, never intimidated. He's un-bullyable, and that's important against Mr. Trump."
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Uhmm...No

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Newsome scares me, afraid he may talk his way into it.

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Nah, DeSantis made him look like a complete fool in their made for TV debate several months back...

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Newsom is a nut that runs a nut state. I'm not to worried about him.

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Hope you're right

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He has zero push back in California, that isn't going to work in the rest of the country. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to see him struggle in a debate, when has he ever had to really defend his policies?

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Very true. I'm starting to think they may go to Whitmer if Michelle turns them down.

New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: 60% of Americans say Biden is not fit for another term as president after disastrous debate yet 2024 contest with Trump remains too close to call

https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-yahoo-newsyougov-poll-60-of-americans-say-biden-is-not-fit-for-another-term-as-president-after-disastrous-debate--yet-2024-contest-with-trump-remains-too-close-to-call-204915250.html

In short, Biden's vulnerability has never been more apparent but Trump remains too flawed to fully capitalize.

wolfbreath said:

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New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: 60% of Americans say Biden is not fit for another term as president after disastrous debate yet 2024 contest with Trump remains too close to call

https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-yahoo-newsyougov-poll-60-of-americans-say-biden-is-not-fit-for-another-term-as-president-after-disastrous-debate--yet-2024-contest-with-trump-remains-too-close-to-call-204915250.html

In short, Biden's vulnerability has never been more apparent but Trump remains too flawed to fully capitalize.

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Yet some on this thread keep saying it'll be 80/ 20 Trump. Trump may indeed win, but 80/ 20 is insane. You couldn't get 80/20 on if the sky is blue.

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The best America can do….

Two 80 year olds arguing about who can drive a golf ball the farthest. Wow

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New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: 60% of Americans say Biden is not fit for another term as president after disastrous debate yet 2024 contest with Trump remains too close to call

https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-yahoo-newsyougov-poll-60-of-americans-say-biden-is-not-fit-for-another-term-as-president-after-disastrous-debate--yet-2024-contest-with-trump-remains-too-close-to-call-204915250.html

In short, Biden's vulnerability has never been more apparent but Trump remains too flawed to fully capitalize.

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Yet some on this thread keep saying it'll be 80/ 20 Trump. Trump may indeed win, but 80/ 20 is insane. You couldn't get 80/20 on if the sky is blue.

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I said 80% of the American people would be anti-Biden. I didn't say the vote tally would be that. I have also said that the election will not occur on Nov 05th. The election will be stolen in November if it actually occurs....as not enough has been done to prevent the digital fraud.....at least not yet :-)

The 80% is in reference to the American population being in favor of Biden being removed from office, however it may be done. 80% being pro-Trump or MAGA won't happen.

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wolfbreath said:

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New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: 60% of Americans say Biden is not fit for another term as president after disastrous debate yet 2024 contest with Trump remains too close to call

https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-yahoo-newsyougov-poll-60-of-americans-say-biden-is-not-fit-for-another-term-as-president-after-disastrous-debate--yet-2024-contest-with-trump-remains-too-close-to-call-204915250.html

In short, Biden's vulnerability has never been more apparent but Trump remains too flawed to fully capitalize.

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Yet some on this thread keep saying it'll be 80/ 20 Trump. Trump may indeed win, but 80/ 20 is insane. You couldn't get 80/20 on if the sky is blue.

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I said 80% of the American people would be anti-Biden. I didn't say the vote tally would be that. I have also said that the election will not occur on Nov 05th. The election will be stolen in November if it actually occurs....as not enough has been done to prevent the digital fraud.....at least not yet :-)

The 80% is in reference to the American population being in favor of Biden being removed from office, however it may be done. 80% being pro-Trump or MAGA won't happen.

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Don't back track now my little doe. You also said Trump would/ will win something like 45+ states.

Trump will win 45 states if the election is actually held.........go back to my words on prior posts re the 80%. I think I saw where it was posted one poll has it at 75% now. Five more months, much more to be revealed, stay tuned young man.

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Trump will win 45 states if the election is actually held.........go back to my words on prior posts re the 80%. I think I saw where it was posted one poll has it at 75% now. Five more months, much more to be revealed, stay tuned young man.

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If the election is held on rumble, or whatever twitter pages you follow, then sure.

Real world, no.

Whatever, my friend. You're like a child with some of your retorts. Have a great 4th of July, no more of your nonsense.

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Whatever, my friend. You're like a child with some of your retorts. Have a great 4th of July, no more of your nonsense.

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Same to you my little doe

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Biden campaign says Biden's fundraising cash would go to Kamala Harris if he drops out as top donors waver

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-campaign-says-bidens-fundraising-135741617.html

A top campaign official held a phone call with Biden's top donors on Sunday and stated that if Biden were to drop out of the race, all his funds would go to Vice President Kamala Harris. Some of the donors went so far as to ask for refunds, according to NBC News.

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Wow, democrats racist much?

You'll give millions to a senile old white dude, but you want your money back of its an Indian woman.

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lol. There literally could be no better a person supporting Biden than this propagandist. Masks, social distancing, wet markets, stops the spread, to now it's just one 90 minute debate where Biden had a bad night. They truly believe, and rightfully so, that Democrat voters are sheep. I can't wait until the final decision is made as to the direction the Democrat party will go in. I expect the baaa's will be back.

Dr. Fauci says it’s unfair to judge Joe Biden’s health based on a 90 minute debate, says Biden may have just had a reaction to his cold medication. pic.twitter.com/QY4N8pxMVi

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) July 3, 2024

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The modern day version of Josef Mengele himself... do actual people with a brain still listen to anything this habitual liar even says anymore?!?

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lol. There literally could be no better a person supporting Biden than this propagandist. Masks, social distancing, wet markets, stops the spread, to now it's just one 90 minute debate where Biden had a bad night. They truly believe, and rightfully so, that Democrat voters are sheep. I can't wait until the final decision is made as to the direction the Democrat party will go in. I expect the baaa's will be back.

Dr. Fauci says it’s unfair to judge Joe Biden’s health based on a 90 minute debate, says Biden may have just had a reaction to his cold medication. pic.twitter.com/QY4N8pxMVi

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) July 3, 2024

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If they want to go that route: Cold Meds, Dementia Can Be A Dangerous Mix

https://www.kpbs.org/news/health/2017/01/30/cold-meds-and-dementia-can-be-dangerous-mix

Dr. Michael Plopper, chief medical officer for Sharp Behavioral Health Services, said people with dementia are more susceptible to negative effects of medications.

"And in particular the antihistamine medications, and can develop confusional states, short-term memory problems, problems with balance, and other potential side effects," Plopper explained.

Is this the same Dr. Fauci that Trump awarded a Presidential commendation to?

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Is this the same Dr. Fauci that Trump awarded a Presidential commendation to?

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Yes. The same one who encouraged you to take a worthless vaccine that you're so proud of.

Hope you get the likes from the lefties you're looking for, but they're not on this thread right now. Haven't been told what to think yet so it will be a while.

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Ok, so we're talking about the same Fauci.

I'm very proud I was able to work long enough to receive a pension from the government. The jab just happened to be something I had to do to ensure that. In that regard, damn right I'm proud.

I don't care who likes or doesn't like my posts. I'm not a lefty, but I damn sure don't like and won't vote for Trump for a third time. And no, that doesn't mean I'm voting for Mr. Dementia.

I for one won't criticize you for a second. I understand completely and I appreciate your service. I spent time with my retired 1st cuz Navy Seal and we chatted on the phone with a buddy of his that was still active in some capacity - I believe it was a Reserve. The guy was trying to conjure up some way to get out of the jabs and was faced with losing a bunch of pension money. He didn't want to take the jab and was trying every way he knew how to avoid the jab and to not lose the money. He ended up taking the jabs but - can't remember exactly - he might have gotten the 2nd one faked on paper somehow.

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Is this the same Dr. Fauci that Trump awarded a Presidential commendation to?

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Yes. The same one who encouraged you to take a worthless vaccine that you're so proud of.

Hope you get the likes from the lefties you're looking for, but they're not on this thread right now. Haven't been told what to think yet so it will be a while.

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Ok, so we're talking about the same Fauci.

I'm very proud I was able to work long enough to receive a pension from the government. The jab just happened to be something I had to do to ensure that. In that regard, damn right I'm proud.

I don't care who likes or doesn't like my posts. I'm not a lefty, but I damn sure don't like and won't vote for Trump for a third time. And no, that doesn't mean I'm voting for Mr. Dementia.

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Clearly you don't care about likes. That explains your bububut Trump reply to a Biden Fauci post. lol.

Come on lefties!!! Like that post!!!!

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Just calling out hypocrisy. If people like it, so be it.

And I'll keep posting what I want.

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lol. There literally could be no better a person supporting Biden than this propagandist. Masks, social distancing, wet markets, stops the spread, to now it's just one 90 minute debate where Biden had a bad night. They truly believe, and rightfully so, that Democrat voters are sheep. I can't wait until the final decision is made as to the direction the Democrat party will go in. I expect the baaa's will be back.

Dr. Fauci says it’s unfair to judge Joe Biden’s health based on a 90 minute debate, says Biden may have just had a reaction to his cold medication. pic.twitter.com/QY4N8pxMVi

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) July 3, 2024

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I thought I saw where KJP was asked if he took cold medicine and she said no he didn't.

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Is this the same Dr. Fauci that Trump awarded a Presidential commendation to?

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Yes. The same one who encouraged you to take a worthless vaccine that you're so proud of.

Hope you get the likes from the lefties you're looking for, but they're not on this thread right now. Haven't been told what to think yet so it will be a while.

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Ok, so we're talking about the same Fauci.

I'm very proud I was able to work long enough to receive a pension from the government. The jab just happened to be something I had to do to ensure that. In that regard, damn right I'm proud.

I don't care who likes or doesn't like my posts. I'm not a lefty, but I damn sure don't like and won't vote for Trump for a third time. And no, that doesn't mean I'm voting for Mr. Dementia.

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Clearly you don't care about likes. That explains your bububut Trump reply to a Biden Fauci post. lol.

Come on lefties!!! Like that post!!!!

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Just calling out hypocrisy. If people like it, so be it.

And I'll keep posting what I want.

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It's not hypocrisy at all. Maybe you should look up what that means.

Your bububut Trump was message board attention *****ing. I'll keep calling out what I want.

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Here's another one for you. Fauci comes in at 20 seconds. Trump loves some Fauci.