hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
buddy, this has zero to do with the keystone pipeline. We should not be buying g Russian anything, period.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
Why? Because democrats canceled the Keystone pipeline, limit expropriation and drilling and close refineries around the country in hopes of forcing people to buy electric cars to save the western articulated spotted mouse.
.@POTUS: We told Zelensky, 'You can do whatever you want to Russia, but don't hit the refineries because that's a world problem.' And what does he do? He goes and hits the diesel fuel. He better damn well stop. pic.twitter.com/CdRlMcPlKr
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) October 10, 2026
hokiewolf said:buddy, this has zero to do with the keystone pipeline. We should not be buying g Russian anything, period.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
Why? Because democrats canceled the Keystone pipeline, limit expropriation and drilling and close refineries around the country in hopes of forcing people to buy electric cars to save the western articulated spotted mouse.
I know enough to know that the government is not the sole blame for diesel production in America. Why can't you just acknowledge this is a terrible idea?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:buddy, this has zero to do with the keystone pipeline. We should not be buying g Russian anything, period.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
Why? Because democrats canceled the Keystone pipeline, limit expropriation and drilling and close refineries around the country in hopes of forcing people to buy electric cars to save the western articulated spotted mouse.
If you say so. I forgot you are an expert on oil production, refineries, transportation, exploration and drilling, fracking anything Russia, etc.
hokiewolf said:I know enough to know that the government is not the sole blame for diesel production in America. Why can't you just acknowledge this is a terrible idea?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:buddy, this has zero to do with the keystone pipeline. We should not be buying g Russian anything, period.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
Why? Because democrats canceled the Keystone pipeline, limit expropriation and drilling and close refineries around the country in hopes of forcing people to buy electric cars to save the western articulated spotted mouse.
If you say so. I forgot you are an expert on oil production, refineries, transportation, exploration and drilling, fracking anything Russia, etc.
Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
Why? Because democrats canceled the Keystone pipeline, limit expropriation and drilling and close refineries around the country in hopes of forcing people to buy electric cars to save the western articulated spotted mouse.
buddy, this has zero to do with the keystone pipeline. We should not be buying g Russian anything, period.
If you say so. I forgot you are an expert on oil production, refineries, transportation, exploration and drilling, fracking anything Russia, etc.
SmaptyWolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
Why? Because democrats canceled the Keystone pipeline, limit expropriation and drilling and close refineries around the country in hopes of forcing people to buy electric cars to save the western articulated spotted mouse.
buddy, this has zero to do with the keystone pipeline. We should not be buying g Russian anything, period.
If you say so. I forgot you are an expert on oil production, refineries, transportation, exploration and drilling, fracking anything Russia, etc.
So you just herp de derped about diesel prices being all Dems' fault because you're an expert?
Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
Why? Because democrats canceled the Keystone pipeline, limit expropriation and drilling and close refineries around the country in hopes of forcing people to buy electric cars to save the western articulated spotted mouse.
buddy, this has zero to do with the keystone pipeline. We should not be buying g Russian anything, period.
If you say so. I forgot you are an expert on oil production, refineries, transportation, exploration and drilling, fracking anything Russia, etc.
So you just herp de derped about diesel prices being all Dems' fault because you're an expert?
Without being a condescending *****, just answer. Is there anything I mentioned that you voted against?
eljefe444 said:caryking said:eljefe444 said:caryking said:eljefe444 said:caryking said:eljefe444 said:caryking said:eljefe444 said:caryking said:eljefe444 said:
MAGA voting partners. Just one portion of the ilk that they personally have to align themselves with to win any elections going forward. Kind of like "normal" people in their party can't get it done anymore without?
That's what I thought.Trump fans in Oklahoma: "He's gonna fix it. Believe in him, stand strong ... all the abortion, it's evil. That's one thing that Trump stands for is us Christians. We're being killed everywhere. I want to see two people -- Trump and Jesus ... we do not want Muslims taking over ...… pic.twitter.com/OenNZZkbRa
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 1, 2026
I didn't watch that video. The comments regarding the video certainly paints a picture of a dumb Trump supporter. Now, let's take the premise of the Muslims taking over.
Really, all you need to do is look at England, I believe all their major cities now have a Muslim as the mayor. That happened because of their open door policy for migration. For me, when I think of England, I think of properness, the accent, and a sense of pride towards their country.
Now, I have no idea whether that same sense is real with these Muslim mayors and the constituents that voted them in. They may very well like the same England as the natives, I just don't know. I do read that Sharia Law does have a place in England, which, in my opinion, is a disaster for the country.
So, we can make fun of the video or look at it as a cry for our country. Again, I didn't watch it; however, we are seeing pockets of change across the country that should be alarming to everyone; yet, it isn't.
i guess it is what it is… you know… Orange Man Bad!!
So you admit you don't have any sense of the Muslim mayors you claim to have taken over the England you have in mind but... you know... Brown Man Bad!!
Are there any Muslim mayors other than Sadiq Khan in London? What specifically is your concern with Khan?
Are there any Muslim mayors other than Sadiq Khan in London? Yes
What specifically is your concern with Khan? Did I say I had a problem with him?
Can you name the other major cities with Muslim mayors aside from Khan in London?
Your entire post was regarding how you are concerned about Muslims taking over and changing England from what you picture when you envision it. And you are concerned about that happening in America. Sounds like it's a problem for you; not specifically Khan, but the general sense. I was just asking for you to explain your concern. Why are Muslim mayors a problem?
There is no evidence that Muslim mayors are causing English cities to come under Sharia law. The UK government explicitly says Sharia has no jurisdiction in England and Wales:
https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2026-03-11/119825
Are you Muslim?
How would that information help you explain your concern over Muslim mayors?
It might explain why you are responding like you do.
You're the one who brought up this Muslim invasion concern. I'm just trying to understand what it is. My responses should have no bearing on the concern you brought up.
You made the claim that most major British cities have Muslim mayors but can't list any outside of the one I mentioned. There seem to be private Sharia Law councils for people who choose to participate but no evidence that it is being enacted in government jurisdiction.
You say we live in different worlds. Please show me evidence of yours. I'm just trying to understand your claims.
Ok, I'll bite…
Yes, segments of areas with England do have these Sharia Law councils. Based on some of my readings they are not as private as you suggest. I also agree that they are not government enacted; however, they are not shut down by the government either. Regardless of whether they are private, what jurisdiction do they and/or should they have in England?
Regarding the two of us living in different worlds; I don't remember the context I may have used; however, I have been a volume speaker about having different world views with others in this thread. Yes, I do believe that to be true!
I see things from Christian World View first and I'm very strong in my belief. Now, when it comes to our governmental structure, I am a strict originalist! We have too many debates about court decisions, actually Civ uses that frequently by saying, "I don't think the courts will agree with you". A recent example of that circles around the media outlets access to the White House. Yes, you can site court decisions as precedence. That said, I've never been a believer in precedence (in fact I've had debates with our current Chief Justice in NC). He and I disagree on this issue. I had an opportunity to poke fun with him on the ruling that dictated Roe vs Wade and its overturning.
In summary, I don't frequent this thread anymore as it's very polarizing, very much like several of the Sports threads. Typically, I stay clear from the chaos anymore. I'm going to move on from you, ok?
Feel free to do whatever you like.
Can you provide evidence that the Sharia Law councils aren't private? You've obviously done a lot of reading about it so it should be easy to prove.
Why should the government shut them down? They are not courts, they are councils most commonly used to advise in Islamic marriages. I've already provided a link that the UK government explicitly states they have no jurisdiction or legal authority. Should government shut down ecclesiastical tribunals?
Curious if you have the same concern about Christian Nationalism?
Republicans: vote for us to stop Sharia Law from coming to America
— sean (@_sn_n) October 10, 2026
Also Republicans:
-public executions
-bans certain types of meat
-bans “immoral” books
-wants a state religion
-goes after LGBTQ people
-treats women like second class citizens
SmaptyWolf said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
Why? Because democrats canceled the Keystone pipeline, limit expropriation and drilling and close refineries around the country in hopes of forcing people to buy electric cars to save the western articulated spotted mouse.
buddy, this has zero to do with the keystone pipeline. We should not be buying g Russian anything, period.
If you say so. I forgot you are an expert on oil production, refineries, transportation, exploration and drilling, fracking anything Russia, etc.
So you just herp de derped about diesel prices being all Dems' fault because you're an expert?
Without being a condescending *****, just answer. Is there anything I mentioned that you voted against?
Again, you were literally just a condescending ***** with your "I forgot you are an expert" deflection. You really can't hear what comes out of your mouth?
Anyway, instead of immediately changing the subject to "but but Dems!" why not just respond to what Trump is doing for once? Obviously Trump is desperate to pretend he's doing something about diesel prices, since the midterms are coming up and everyone knows he's responsible for torching the Middle East and not stopping the Ukraine War on Day 1 (like he promised would be sooo easy).
So why does Trump never miss a chance to fellate Putin, especially considering that buying their diesel would have a negligible effect on prices anyway? Any idea what that's about?
President Trump’s decision to lift sanctions on Russian fuel amidst Putin’s ongoing and brutal attacks on civilian targets in Ukraine makes no sense and is a betrayal of the legacy and leadership of the late Senator Lindsey Graham.
— Mike Pence (@Mike_Pence) October 10, 2026
While Ukraine fights for its survival, Putin’s…
Trump: I could say the stupidest things and you'd clap pic.twitter.com/9LLyA30UzI
— Acyn (@Acyn) October 10, 2026
SmaptyWolf said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:
Why TF are we buying diesel fuel from Russia?
Why? Because democrats canceled the Keystone pipeline, limit expropriation and drilling and close refineries around the country in hopes of forcing people to buy electric cars to save the western articulated spotted mouse.
buddy, this has zero to do with the keystone pipeline. We should not be buying g Russian anything, period.
If you say so. I forgot you are an expert on oil production, refineries, transportation, exploration and drilling, fracking anything Russia, etc.
So you just herp de derped about diesel prices being all Dems' fault because you're an expert?
Without being a condescending *****, just answer. Is there anything I mentioned that you voted against?
Again, you were literally just a condescending ***** with your "I forgot you are an expert" deflection. You really can't hear what comes out of your mouth?
Anyway, instead of immediately changing the subject to "but but Dems!" why not just respond to what Trump is doing for once? Obviously Trump is desperate to pretend he's doing something about diesel prices, since the midterms are coming up and everyone knows he's responsible for torching the Middle East and not stopping the Ukraine War on Day 1 (like he promised would be sooo easy).
So why does Trump never miss a chance to fellate Putin, especially considering that buying their diesel would have a negligible effect on prices anyway? Any idea what that's about?
hokiewolf said:
Good. Blow them all up Ukraine.@POTUS: We told Zelensky, 'You can do whatever you want to Russia, but don't hit the refineries because that's a world problem.' And what does he do? He goes and hits the diesel fuel. He better damn well stop. pic.twitter.com/CdRlMcPlKr
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) October 10, 2026
Civilized said:Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Mamdani: This afternoon, a New Yorker was shot by ICE agents. ICE agents surrounded the man's vehicle before opening fire. They wore construction vests and masks that concealed their faces. There was no reasonable way to way to identify them as JCE agents. School had just gotten… pic.twitter.com/zmHYKCSFaC
— Acyn (@Acyn) October 9, 2026
https://www.foxnews.com/us/mamdani-demands-trump-release-illegal-immigrant-shot-ice-agent-protests-erupt-bronx.amp
DHS said the man, who was described as an illegal immigrant, had a prior grand larceny conviction and previous arrests involving assault, robbery, drug possession and weapons possession. The agency also alleged that he had ties to the Trinitarios gang.
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This is the kind of guy you are clutching pearls for?
We've heard so many BS lies from this administration immediately in the wake of mall cop shootings about the alleged misdeeds of the alleged perps that you can't believe anything they say without corroboration.
Also, as is always the case with these shootings, none of the charges on his alleged rap sheet merit instantaneous capital punishment.
eljefe444 said:Mamdani: This afternoon, a New Yorker was shot by ICE agents. ICE agents surrounded the man's vehicle before opening fire. They wore construction vests and masks that concealed their faces. There was no reasonable way to way to identify them as JCE agents. School had just gotten… pic.twitter.com/zmHYKCSFaC
— Acyn (@Acyn) October 9, 2026
SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
BREAKING: In a terribly embarrassing moment for Trump, Fox News has to cut away from his speech because he isn’t making any coherent sense. It’s beyond clear Trump is senile. Retweet so all Americans see this. pic.twitter.com/aT8K1L0Zyi
— John Fitzgerald Kennedy Jr. (@MrJohnJr21) October 10, 2026
Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
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Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
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Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
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Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
hokiewolf said:two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
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Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
do you think ICE should have planned better so they didn't kill someone with a 5 year old in the car?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
- - -
Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Sanctuary cities releasing criminals back on the street has a direct effect. Absolutely NONE of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and handed over to ICE. Why is that hard for you to understand?
hokiewolf said:do you think ICE should have planned better so they didn't kill someone with a 5 year old in the car?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
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Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Sanctuary cities releasing criminals back on the street has a direct effect. Absolutely NONE of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and handed over to ICE. Why is that hard for you to understand?
I believe he had his kid in the car when they tried to arrest him. Maybe don't do that.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:do you think ICE should have planned better so they didn't kill someone with a 5 year old in the car?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
- - -
Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Sanctuary cities releasing criminals back on the street has a direct effect. Absolutely NONE of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and handed over to ICE. Why is that hard for you to understand?
What the hell are you talking about?
hokiewolf said:I believe he had his kid in the car when they tried to arrest him. Maybe don't do that.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:do you think ICE should have planned better so they didn't kill someone with a 5 year old in the car?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
- - -
Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Sanctuary cities releasing criminals back on the street has a direct effect. Absolutely NONE of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and handed over to ICE. Why is that hard for you to understand?
What the hell are you talking about?
uhhhh yes. Plan your arrest to minimize risk. More often then not what has been seen by the public show a lack of give a ****Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:I believe he had his kid in the car when they tried to arrest him. Maybe don't do that.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:do you think ICE should have planned better so they didn't kill someone with a 5 year old in the car?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
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Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Sanctuary cities releasing criminals back on the street has a direct effect. Absolutely NONE of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and handed over to ICE. Why is that hard for you to understand?
What the hell are you talking about?
So don't arrest violent criminals because they have a kid with them?
And who got killed?
hokiewolf said:uhhhh yes. Plan your arrest to minimize risk. More often then not what has been seen by the public show a lack of give a ****Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:I believe he had his kid in the car when they tried to arrest him. Maybe don't do that.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:do you think ICE should have planned better so they didn't kill someone with a 5 year old in the car?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
- - -
Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Sanctuary cities releasing criminals back on the street has a direct effect. Absolutely NONE of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and handed over to ICE. Why is that hard for you to understand?
What the hell are you talking about?
So don't arrest violent criminals because they have a kid with them?
And who got killed?
Even the mafia didn't do hits when the target was with his family. Geez man
yes ICE is at fault when an arrest doesn't go smoothly. You know why? Because they're the ones carrying out the plan.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:uhhhh yes. Plan your arrest to minimize risk. More often then not what has been seen by the public show a lack of give a ****Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:I believe he had his kid in the car when they tried to arrest him. Maybe don't do that.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:do you think ICE should have planned better so they didn't kill someone with a 5 year old in the car?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
- - -
Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Sanctuary cities releasing criminals back on the street has a direct effect. Absolutely NONE of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and handed over to ICE. Why is that hard for you to understand?
What the hell are you talking about?
So don't arrest violent criminals because they have a kid with them?
And who got killed?
Even the mafia didn't do hits when the target was with his family. Geez man
The guy has fled arrest before. He has a rap sheet long as your arm. He tried to flee again with a kid in the back seat. He crashed in two different vehicles with a kid in the back seat. He then drove at ICE officers with a kid in the back seat. But in your mind ICE was wrong because he had a kid in the back seat? Are you drunk?
Again, none of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and then handed over to ICE. Where is your outrage with that? Why do you not rail against the release of a criminal in the first place?
hokiewolf said:yes ICE is at fault when an arrest doesn't go smoothly. You know why? Because they're the ones carrying out the plan.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:uhhhh yes. Plan your arrest to minimize risk. More often then not what has been seen by the public show a lack of give a ****Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:I believe he had his kid in the car when they tried to arrest him. Maybe don't do that.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:do you think ICE should have planned better so they didn't kill someone with a 5 year old in the car?Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
- - -
Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Sanctuary cities releasing criminals back on the street has a direct effect. Absolutely NONE of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and handed over to ICE. Why is that hard for you to understand?
What the hell are you talking about?
So don't arrest violent criminals because they have a kid with them?
And who got killed?
Even the mafia didn't do hits when the target was with his family. Geez man
The guy has fled arrest before. He has a rap sheet long as your arm. He tried to flee again with a kid in the back seat. He crashed in two different vehicles with a kid in the back seat. He then drove at ICE officers with a kid in the back seat. But in your mind ICE was wrong because he had a kid in the back seat? Are you drunk?
Again, none of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and then handed over to ICE. Where is your outrage with that? Why do you not rail against the release of a criminal in the first place?
Sanctuary cities releasing criminal immigrants are a reality we can't wish away. So you deal in that reality when you're planning your arrest
Like I said, the mafia planned better
Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
- - -
Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:Gulfstream4 said:eljefe444 said:Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:
I'd like to meet the person parked in the Bronx who wouldn't tear off the second two masked a**holes in civilian clothes ran up to their car with guns drawn.
Between this crap and public executions there is something seriously wrong with MAGA people. This is the country they want.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/10/09/dhs-debunks-new-york-sanctuary-politicians-lies-about-ice-shooting-illegal-alien
Bengal illegally entered the United States at an unknown date and location. This criminal illegal alien was previously arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on December 7, 2023, but was RELEASED into the community a few days later by reckless Democrat sanctuary policies that put American lives at risk.
- - -
Between illegals committing crimes and democrats releasing these same criminals back on to the streets, there is something seriously wrong with libtards. This is the country they want.
They fired into the back of a car with a 5 year old… who witnessed his father being shot with a bullet whizzing by his own head on a street with multiple other cars and pedestrians. Thank God nobody else (in this incident) was hurt by these untrained *******s like Cuni, the one standing with his rifle in the air after the arrest, who has a history of unlawful arrests and excessive force. At what point does "Man in the Arena" become a roid rage thug looking for violence?
Not sure if it's just your stated purpose of caring about nothing but liberal tears or you're just too dense to understand the point that ICE shouldn't put others in danger and stomp over fourth amendment rights. Nobody is arguing this man shouldn't have been detained.
https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-at-nyc-shooting-has-history-of-alleged-violence-and-illegal-arrests/
What if democrats had kept him in jail when he was arrested the first time and not released him on the streets? None of this would have happened, would it?
Are you too dense to understand this?
two wrongs make it justified is a solid argument.
Sanctuary cities releasing criminals back on the street has a direct effect. Absolutely NONE of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and handed over to ICE. Why is that hard for you to understand?
do you think ICE should have planned better so they didn't kill someone with a 5 year old in the car?
What the hell are you talking about?
I believe he had his kid in the car when they tried to arrest him. Maybe don't do that.
So don't arrest violent criminals because they have a kid with them?
And who got killed?
uhhhh yes. Plan your arrest to minimize risk. More often then not what has been seen by the public show a lack of give a ****
Even the mafia didn't do hits when the target was with his family. Geez man
The guy has fled arrest before. He has a rap sheet long as your arm. He tried to flee again with a kid in the back seat. He crashed in two different vehicles with a kid in the back seat. He then drove at ICE officers with a kid in the back seat. But in your mind ICE was wrong because he had a kid in the back seat? Are you drunk?
Again, none of this would have happened if he were kept in jail and then handed over to ICE. Where is your outrage with that? Why do you not rail against the release of a criminal in the first place?
yes ICE is at fault when an arrest doesn't go smoothly. You know why? Because they're the ones carrying out the plan.
Sanctuary cities releasing criminal immigrants are a reality we can't wish away. So you deal in that reality when you're planning your arrest
Like I said, the mafia planned better
You are okay sanctuary cities creating this mess to start with and you are okay with a violent criminal putting his kid and multiple law enforcement officers at risk but ICE needs to do better?
I don't understand where people like you come from.
