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SmaptyWolf said:

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Abdul El-Sayed Is garbage. He isn't fit for office

He thinks that Hamas and the Israeli government are both evil. I'd have assumed that the "both sides" thing would really appeal to you.

he had an event hosted by a known nazi

No, the host's grandfather was a German soldier in WW2 who she said "was one of the first people in my life that accepted me as gay" and described him as "a true testament that people can change and love indeed can win." She was trying to make a distinction that he was just a grunt and not one of the Nazi's close to Hitler, I'd assume because he was her f'ing grandfather.

Way too nuanced for an American politician to get in to, but saying she's a "known nazi" is the kind of stupidity that you usually have the good sense to rail against around here.

Of course Trump happily cheered on known nazis carrying tiki torches in Virginia and storming the Capitol in 6MWE shirts, and that didn't seem to factor into you voting for him at all, so why would you care anyway?

oh, my bad, Nazi sympathizer - he praised his grandfathers service in WWII in a Veterans Day post, you know, when he was fighting for the Fuhrer. So, just as unknowingly tattoo a Nazi symbol on your chest, or you celebrate your family's service to Nazi Germany, those should be things that don't allow you to be anywhere near politics.

I'm not going to debate your whataboutism point. I've already made my peace with the mistake I made and won't make it again.

Ok cool, but just so we're clear, you did vote for a nazi sympathiser and it wasn't a dealbreaker in deciding you'd vote for him. You knew what Trump was all about but you had other priorities. I imagine it's still not the reason you regret your vote.

You clearly hold Dems to a standard that you don't hold yourself to (regardless of the fact that calling that lady a nazi is a joke).
can you please send me the quotes where Trump praised Nazis? Or wore Nazi paraphernalia or has Nazi symbols tattooed on his body?
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


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Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.
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eljefe444 said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

I disagree with you on one point

The war ending against Hamas and Hezbollah can stop whenever they decide that 50 years of terrorism isn't working. They have chosen not to do that, so I have zero issue with Israel making sure that there are no attacks within their borders. I would argue international intervention in the past interfering with Israel wiping out Hamas and Hezbollah has cost many more lives than what has currently occurred over the last two years. The spilling of blood of many Palestinians is not just on the hands of Israel.

Additionally, yes Palestinians deserve better, but deserves don't happen in war, and Israel should not be expected to provide aid and comfort to those who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

You need to look more at Jordan, Syria, Egypt and Iran as to why Palestinians have suffered and continued to suffer in brutal conditions because they have been brainwashed into thinking their plight is because Israel exists.

That is a point that the Democratic Party leaders say in private but refuse to say in public, and that leaves the messaging to those who are within the party who actually do hate Israel.


I don't disagree at all with your premise, but I have zero belief Israel can end Hamas and Hezbollah militarily. They are not conventional military. They're not ever going to wave a white flag and sign a lasting peace agreement. They're decentralized guerrilla fighters, and insurgencies like this always survive even enormous military pressure. ISIS, the Taliban, IRA, the Viet Cong...examples abound of traditional military and police approaches being unable to exterminate terrorists. Also, civilian deaths like we've seen in Gaza just fuel hate towards Israel and the West, and this sort of conflict becomes self-perpetuating.

Where that belief leads, is the conclusion that Palestinian civilian deaths are for naught and that, at a minimum, there needs to be a plan to end the conflict that's something other than "kill every Hamas fighter."

The biggest value to a robust military response by Israel I believe, is deterrence against future attacks, but I don't think this is sufficiently persuasive to authorize and fund a forever-proxy-war in Gaza against Hamas.

I don't have an answer here, which is why militant Islamism is a massive problem. And I do wish the Dems would dive into that and actually put words to that. Stop dancing.

Confront the issue head-on, and the unfortunate reality that most Muslims are not militant, and do not want violence or war or to kill Jewish people or apostates or other non-believers, but that a pretty small but deadly proportion of jihadist Muslims do, and the the world community has to confront radical Islam head-on.

I do strongly believe that if we're going to fund the war and support Bibi spearheading the effort, we need to understand the plan better. Not to make public the nuanced military plan, of course, but just like in Iran, describe what the goals are and what's being done to achieve them.

What's the strategy? What are the anticipated benchmarks that indicate incremental success? What's the endgame?

You could literally replace Muslims with Democrats. Most Democrats are not Militant; however, the ones that show up everywhere are very similar in nature to this jihadist group you referenced.


You could literally replace Muslims and Democrats with Republicans (like any radicals in a group). Most Republicans are not Militant; however, the ones that show up everywhere are very similar in nature to this jihadist group you referenced.

A 2024 review by the National Institute of Justice (NIJ), drawing on the Extremist Crime Database (ECDB), found that from 1990 onward:

Far-right extremists committed 227 ideologically motivated homicide events, killing more than 520 people.

Far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated homicide events, killing 78 people.

https://archive.ph/2024.10.24-222147/https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism

ok, you won!
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hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Abdul El-Sayed Is garbage. He isn't fit for office

He thinks that Hamas and the Israeli government are both evil. I'd have assumed that the "both sides" thing would really appeal to you.

he had an event hosted by a known nazi

No, the host's grandfather was a German soldier in WW2 who she said "was one of the first people in my life that accepted me as gay" and described him as "a true testament that people can change and love indeed can win." She was trying to make a distinction that he was just a grunt and not one of the Nazi's close to Hitler, I'd assume because he was her f'ing grandfather.

Way too nuanced for an American politician to get in to, but saying she's a "known nazi" is the kind of stupidity that you usually have the good sense to rail against around here.

Of course Trump happily cheered on known nazis carrying tiki torches in Virginia and storming the Capitol in 6MWE shirts, and that didn't seem to factor into you voting for him at all, so why would you care anyway?

oh, my bad, Nazi sympathizer - he praised his grandfathers service in WWII in a Veterans Day post, you know, when he was fighting for the Fuhrer. So, just as unknowingly tattoo a Nazi symbol on your chest, or you celebrate your family's service to Nazi Germany, those should be things that don't allow you to be anywhere near politics.

I'm not going to debate your whataboutism point. I've already made my peace with the mistake I made and won't make it again.

Ok cool, but just so we're clear, you did vote for a nazi sympathiser and it wasn't a dealbreaker in deciding you'd vote for him. You knew what Trump was all about but you had other priorities. I imagine it's still not the reason you regret your vote.

You clearly hold Dems to a standard that you don't hold yourself to (regardless of the fact that calling that lady a nazi is a joke).

can you please send me the quotes where Trump praised Nazis? Or wore Nazi paraphernalia or has Nazi symbols tattooed on his body?

Off the top of my head:
  • An army of guys marched through Charlottesville at night with tiki torches chanting "blood and soil!" and "jews will not replace us!", and on national TV Trump told all of us that they were "very fine people". Is that "praise"?
  • He refused to condemn the Proud Boys (the "6 Million [Jews] Wasn't Enough t-shirt guys) and instead told them to "stand by". He even made it clear he would pardon them all if he was reelected, and he did.
  • His chief of staff John Kelly and other officials said he repeatedly expressed admiration for Hitler's generals.
  • He has literally pulled quotes out of Mein Kampf and put them in his speeches.
  • He's had a strange habit of nominating nazi sympathizers and white christian nationalists (complete with questionable tattoos) for posts in his administration.
  • He hosted what federal prosecutors identified as a Nazi sympathizer and white supremacist TWICE at Bedminster and let him give speeches.
I'm sure I forgot a bunch of things. Did I mention this guy was running for President of the United States? And you then voted for him?

Meanwhile, after this Dem fundraising host inartfully expressed love for her grandfather she tried to clarify and publicly disavowed nazis, but in your mind anyone associating with her is still garbage who isn't fit for office.

I dunno man, any possibility that your nazi sympathizer detector has a pretty massive partisan filter on it?
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Hey, you called it the "Democratic" Party. That's progress!
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Gulfstream4 said:




Hey, you called it the "Democratic" Party. That's progress!


Haha-only thing missing is a overweight white lady with purple hair and a pencil neck beta male cheering them on…you know what I mean?
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If someone could post this meme. It's a perfect description of the people on the left.

https://truthsocial.com/@Qanon76/posts/116957094094638444
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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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Gulfstream4 said:

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Hey, you called it the "Democratic" Party. That's progress!


Haha-only thing missing is a overweight white lady with purple hair and a pencil neck beta male cheering them on…you know what I mean?


Ha! Don't forget about me!
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.


1. Nothing is more expensive than it was before Trump. Biden had FOUR years to fck it up, why can't you give Trump four to fix it?

2.Obama had EIGHT years and Obamacare is a disaster, but Trump should fix it in two years?

3. Threaten to invade Greenland , OH NO! Did you die? The Great War with Venezuela….that lasted 24 hours and removed a narco dictator from power and Russia/China from the Western Hemisphere. OH NO!

4. Iran is the world's leading sponsor of State terrorism. It's about time someone did something…why didn't either of your two guys do anything besides sign a worthless piece of paper and look the other way while Iran continued to build? Feel free to google the Iranian people celebrating your great President Trump as well as the Cuban people begging for help.

None of the things you listed except affordability matters to the average American NOT consumed with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Most of those are just your opinions peddled as fact.

Everything I'm seeing is showing Republicans and Democrats pretty even in the midterms. What you and the MSM are doing and is driving a narrative so republicans say "it's going to be bad, why go vote"? It ain't working.

Now let's look at your party. Open borders, soft on crime, ghey pride and transformer ideology, corruption in every blue state, DEI, Wokeness BS, socialist taken hold more and more. Honestly, i understand why you can't stop talking about Trump because you sure as hell can't talk about your party.

Gulfstream4
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SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.


NOW elections can be rigged?
SmaptyWolf
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.


NOW elections can be rigged?

If it's possible I'm sure the biggest crook in American history will find a way.
caryking
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

As you usually do Civ, you gloss over the point I was making and turned it into an Alinskiest diatribe.
Gulfstream4
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.


NOW elections can be rigged?

If it's possible I'm sure the biggest crook in American history will find a way.


Is it possible to rig an election, yes or no?
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

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Civilized said:

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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.


1. Nothing is more expensive than it was before Trump. Biden had FOUR years to fck it up, why can't you give Trump four to fix it?

2.Obama had EIGHT years and Obamacare is a disaster, but Trump should fix it in two years?

3. Threaten to invade Greenland , OH NO! Did you die? The Great War with Venezuela….that lasted 24 hours and removed a narco dictator from power and Russia/China from the Western Hemisphere. OH NO!

4. Iran is the world's leading sponsor of State terrorism. It's about time someone did something…why didn't either of your two guys do anything besides sign a worthless piece of paper and look the other way while Iran continued to build? Feel free to google the Iranian people celebrating your great President Trump as well as the Cuban people begging for help.

None of the things you listed except affordability matters to the average American NOT consumed with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Most of those are just your opinions peddled as fact.

Everything I'm seeing is showing Republicans and Democrats pretty even in the midterms. What you and the MSM are doing and is driving a narrative so republicans say "it's going to be bad, why go vote"? It ain't working.

Now let's look at your party. Open borders, soft on crime, ghey pride and transformer ideology, corruption in every blue state, DEI, Wokeness BS, socialist taken hold more and more. Honestly, i understand why you can't stop talking about Trump because you sure as hell can't talk about your party.




Cool.

How are Republicans going to perform in November, and why?
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.


1. Nothing is more expensive than it was before Trump. Biden had FOUR years to fck it up, why can't you give Trump four to fix it?

2.Obama had EIGHT years and Obamacare is a disaster, but Trump should fix it in two years?

3. Threaten to invade Greenland , OH NO! Did you die? The Great War with Venezuela….that lasted 24 hours and removed a narco dictator from power and Russia/China from the Western Hemisphere. OH NO!

4. Iran is the world's leading sponsor of State terrorism. It's about time someone did something…why didn't either of your two guys do anything besides sign a worthless piece of paper and look the other way while Iran continued to build? Feel free to google the Iranian people celebrating your great President Trump as well as the Cuban people begging for help.

None of the things you listed except affordability matters to the average American NOT consumed with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Most of those are just your opinions peddled as fact.

Everything I'm seeing is showing Republicans and Democrats pretty even in the midterms. What you and the MSM are doing and is driving a narrative so republicans say "it's going to be bad, why go vote"? It ain't working.

Now let's look at your party. Open borders, soft on crime, ghey pride and transformer ideology, corruption in every blue state, DEI, Wokeness BS, socialist taken hold more and more. Honestly, i understand why you can't stop talking about Trump because you sure as hell can't talk about your party.




Cool.

How are Republicans going to perform in November, and why?


I'm seeing 16 toss up seats in the house. I'd give the democrats 10 out of those 16…that's hardly the bloodbath you keep hoping, wishing and praying for.

You turn. How do you see it, exactly?
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.


NOW elections can be rigged?

If it's possible I'm sure the biggest crook in American history will find a way.


Is it possible to rig an election, yes or no?


Rig it by having millions of ineligible voters vote? No.

Rig it by having the federal government usurp the power to administer elections? We've never confronted that before so we don't know.
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.


NOW elections can be rigged?

If it's possible I'm sure the biggest crook in American history will find a way.


Is it possible to rig an election, yes or no?


Rig it by having millions of ineligible voters vote? No.

Rig it by having the federal government usurp the power to administer elections? We've never confronted that before so we don't know.


New Jersey accidentally registered 6,600 noncitizens to vote years ago, governor says

https://abcnews.com/amp/US/new-jersey-accidentally-registered-6600-noncitizens-vote-governor/story?id=134959825
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"Last week I learned that a serious software error in New Jersey's Motor Vehicle System led to the registration of roughly 6,600 people who indicated that they were not U.S. citizens
- - -

NJ busted trying to pull a fast one. Is it out of the realm of possibility this could be happening in other states?

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I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.


NOW elections can be rigged?

If it's possible I'm sure the biggest crook in American history will find a way.


Is it possible to rig an election, yes or no?


Rig it by having millions of ineligible voters vote? No.

Rig it by having the federal government usurp the power to administer elections? We've never confronted that before so we don't know.

#Sieve, if the voting isn't rigged it will be a landslide unlike seen before.

You think Communism is going to sell outside of NY City, Chicago, Minneapolis, San Francisco?
California and Los Angeles aren't blue they've been stolen.


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hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.


NOW elections can be rigged?

If it's possible I'm sure the biggest crook in American history will find a way.


Is it possible to rig an election, yes or no?


Rig it by having millions of ineligible voters vote? No.

Rig it by having the federal government usurp the power to administer elections? We've never confronted that before so we don't know.


New Jersey accidentally registered 6,600 noncitizens to vote years ago, governor says

https://abcnews.com/amp/US/new-jersey-accidentally-registered-6600-noncitizens-vote-governor/story?id=134959825
- - -

"Last week I learned that a serious software error in New Jersey's Motor Vehicle System led to the registration of roughly 6,600 people who indicated that they were not U.S. citizens
- - -

NJ busted trying to pull a fast one. Is it out of the realm of possibility this could be happening in other states?




Wow! 6,600 voters. Scary.

It wasn't a "fast one." It was a software glitch. Nothing nefarious is even being suggested here.

Why would New Jersey need to rig an election? For who, Democrats? Democrats win by massive margins there. Harris had the worst showing by a Democrat there in decades and still won by a quarter-million votes That would be like North Dakota rigging elections for Republicans; it makes zero sense. If anyone is trying to rig an election, wouldn't it be the underdog party, in a state where they need the help and also actually have a chance of winning?

And how are they getting the massive, organized fraud past all the Republicans on their bipartisan election commission?

There are always abnormalities in elections. Always have been. Always will be. The scale is what matters, and they're never, ever close to being the scale necessary to tip elections.

Here's the context that y'all never try to find:

6,600 registered erroneously in NJ. Fewer than 400 of those people actually voted.

Do you know how many voters are registered in New Jersey? Nearly 6.7MM. 4.3MM of those voted in the last election.

Do the math. That's .009%. Nine one-thousandths of one percent of the votes cast in that state.

Harris won New Jersey by 250,000 votes and you're talking about 400 votes, and you don't even know who they voted for.

So yeah, that math doesn't math and it never does, but it doesn't stop y'all from gulping down Trump's firehose of election fraud lies.

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Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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hokiewolf said:

I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.


NOW elections can be rigged?

If it's possible I'm sure the biggest crook in American history will find a way.


Is it possible to rig an election, yes or no?


Rig it by having millions of ineligible voters vote? No.

Rig it by having the federal government usurp the power to administer elections? We've never confronted that before so we don't know.


New Jersey accidentally registered 6,600 noncitizens to vote years ago, governor says

https://abcnews.com/amp/US/new-jersey-accidentally-registered-6600-noncitizens-vote-governor/story?id=134959825
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"Last week I learned that a serious software error in New Jersey's Motor Vehicle System led to the registration of roughly 6,600 people who indicated that they were not U.S. citizens
- - -

NJ busted trying to pull a fast one. Is it out of the realm of possibility this could be happening in other states?




Wow! 6,600 voters. Scary.

It wasn't a "fast one." It was a software glitch. Nothing nefarious is even being suggested here.

Why would New Jersey need to rig an election? For who, Democrats? Democrats win by massive margins there. Harris had the worst showing by a Democrat there in decades and still won by a quarter-million votes That would be like North Dakota rigging elections for Republicans; it makes zero sense. If anyone is trying to rig an election, wouldn't it be the underdog party, in a state where they need the help and also actually have a chance of winning?

And how are they getting the massive, organized fraud past all the Republicans on their bipartisan election commission?

There are always abnormalities in elections. Always have been. Always will be. The scale is what matters, and they're never, ever close to being the scale necessary to tip elections.

Here's the context that y'all never try to find:

6,600 registered erroneously in NJ. Fewer than 400 of those people actually voted.

Do you know how many voters are registered in New Jersey? Nearly 6.7MM. 4.3MM of those voted in the last election.

Do the math. That's .009%. Nine one-thousandths of one percent of the votes cast in that state.

Harris won New Jersey by 250,000 votes and you're talking about 400 votes, and you don't even know who they voted for.

So yeah, that math doesn't math and it never does, but it doesn't stop y'all from gulping down Trump's firehose of election fraud lies.




Just to emphasize this statement from the article:

"The governor's statement said that the state's "preliminary analysis" found that less than 400 people who were erroneously registered to vote had voted in elections and were not tied to just one party; they were registered as Democrats, Republicans, or unaffiliated voters."
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I can't think of 2 normal Republicans so not sure that's a real winning argument


Rubio and Vance. Give me two normal Democrats that actually have a chance of winning the nomination.


Normal? LOLOLOL

Hilarious that anyone who voted for or still supports this clown show of an administration wants to talk about "normal."

Are they going to start totally unnecessary wars?
Are they going to impose illegal and economically harmful tariffs?
Are they going to fellate Putin and then turn around and threaten to invade or go to war with our NATO allies?
Are they going to bang porn stars and pay them off?
Are they going to run the government like a kleptocracy and treat the office like it's their and their family's own personal piggy bank?
Are they going to rape or sexually assault women?
Are they going to insult, browbeat, and demean the Supreme Court, the press, and anyone else that disagrees with them?
Are they going to lie like they breathe on a daily basis about all things big and small?

Because none of that is normal, and all of this is what we have now, and you seem to be totally fine with all that.

Newsom. AOC. Ossoff. Bashear. Shapiro. Pritzker. All these Democrats are normal by those standards, even though their levels of progressivism vary. You just don't like their politics.

Pritzker is my favorite, although it's unlikely he's gonna be the guy. We need a lot more humanist leaders like him who are fiscally pragmatic.

We've got an administration that has disrespected and flouted and defiled norms and laws for years, and you want to talk about other politicians being not-normal because of their laugh, or their stance on obscure culture war issues like trans stuff, or because they want to pay for more health care or child care or care about climate change.

It's a total joke of a double standard, and you know it.

I eagerly await your "Whoa, TDS bro!" response because no one on the right can respond constructively to any of this. The only response is to act like it's weird to object to it.


Newsom…with what he's done to California, no thanks. Far left AOC…lol. Ossoff and Bashear, are you even serious? Your party hates Israel but you think they vote for Shapiro? Billionaire Pritzker going to rail against billionaires and an economy for everyone? That would be height of hypocrisy.

We still have two more years. Just think how far left the democrats will be then.


The Republican Party has doused itself in gasoline and lit itself on fire by tethering its sinking ship to MAGA and a disaster of a president and human being.

And you're talking about the Democratic Party's shoes being untied.

LMAO at you criticizing an actually successful businessman that also looks out for people when you eagerly plugged in a bankrupted, fraudulent clown that's turned himself into a billionaire on a crypto scam that profits mightily for him while losing money for everyone else, and openly cares only about enriching himself and his family.

As usual you're all too eager to oversimplify a complicated issue in Israel. The left doesn't "hate Israel." If that was true where are all the Jewish democrats switching parties? You can clearly make the case that Bibi sucks and is leading Trump around by the nose; that the Palestinian people deserve more support; and that we need to take a pragmatic stance on not trusting Bibi with a blank check. Balancing the ability of Israel to defend itself in a region that wants to extinguish it, with the humanitarian need for that war to end, and the plight of the Palestinians (NOT Hamas) is obviously too complex for the current Administration, so they should probably let the adults take a hack at it.

Call me crazy, but maybe you should worry a little about Trump and this Republican Congress' actual failures, and Republicans getting destroyed in November because of it, instead of worrying about problems that may arise in the unlikely event far-left Dem candidates get elected to a boatload of seats around the country.




Bill Maher calls out Democrat Party


- - -

Bill Maher. Van Jones. James Carville are all telling you the same thing I'm telling you but all you can do is "something Trump".

Another thing, I don't think the midterms are going to be as bad for republicans as you are hoping, wishing and praying for. Feel free to disagree.


More boogeymen.

Carville and Jones and Maher are rightfully just saying that infighting on the left is going to hurt the party if they don't get their **** together and selectively ignore the far-left wing on issues like trans activism and Gaza.

But establishment Dems would be stupid not to pay attention to why DSA candidates are resonating, especially in high-cost-of-living locations, and regarding the issues that impact most Americans.

Which of these do you think are going to end America, if implemented reasonably:

Swinging balance of political and economic power back to working class and away from massive corporations
Quality public housing
Affordable health care
Cutting military spending
Being less interventionist abroad
Campaign finance reform

Discussing police reform, de-escalation training, reduction or elimination of cash bail, etc. is fine, but no one is getting elected to a major public office talking about abolishing the police or the Senate.


If the more moderate Dems are smart, they'll see and understand why DSA candidates are resonating, and double down on addressing these issues in their own campaigns without the scary "socialist" label, while openly rejecting the craziest ideas of the far left.

Spoken like a true DSA person...

LOL

Good luck in the midterms and in 28 railing against the working class, affordability, and health care.

Civ, the Communist Part started their platform a long time ago. In fact, if you read their platform from the early 60's, you will see they have accomplished a lot. They didn't have to win elections; rather, they had to influence the societal norms.

I agree that society has gobbled up the narrative that started 60+ years ago. Including yourself, you have bought into those Communist plans. Please feel free to look up their platform. You will see how much you've bought into the plan.

I'll give them their credit, they have succeeded in changing the minds of so many.


LOLOL

What narrative?

Trump ran on affordability and then illegally tariff'ed the world and drove up inflation and made everything more expensive for Americans (in addition to pissing the entire world off, with no identifiable endgame or benefit).

He said he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and/or cheaper. How's that going?

Even if he didn't run on cutting military spending, he ran on getting us out and keeping us out of foreign wars, and then promptly threatened to invade our allies in Greenland and militarily struck Venezuela and started a war with Iran with no discernible endgame and is threatening action in Cuba. Aside from the sheer stupidity of this, you think these wars and operations are cheap?

Our infrastructure quality is lower than most of the rest of the developed world. Our health care and child care are vastly more expensive.

Which of these issues are communist, again?

Pubs are going to get destroyed even worse in November (if that's even possible, which I'm doubting at this point) if they double down on Trump's "affordability is a made-up word" trope, and are now hammering "affordability is communist."

Y'all are trying to set some sort of record for tone-deafness and electoral unpopularity at this point. That's the only answer that makes sense.

The only answer that makes sense to me is that they're YOLO'ing like they're confident Trump will find a way to rig the election... or they just have no intention of accepting the results.


NOW elections can be rigged?

If it's possible I'm sure the biggest crook in American history will find a way.


Is it possible to rig an election, yes or no?


Rig it by having millions of ineligible voters vote? No.

Rig it by having the federal government usurp the power to administer elections? We've never confronted that before so we don't know.


New Jersey accidentally registered 6,600 noncitizens to vote years ago, governor says

https://abcnews.com/amp/US/new-jersey-accidentally-registered-6600-noncitizens-vote-governor/story?id=134959825
- - -

"Last week I learned that a serious software error in New Jersey's Motor Vehicle System led to the registration of roughly 6,600 people who indicated that they were not U.S. citizens
- - -

NJ busted trying to pull a fast one. Is it out of the realm of possibility this could be happening in other states?




Wow! 6,600 voters. Scary.

It wasn't a "fast one." It was a software glitch. Nothing nefarious is even being suggested here.

Why would New Jersey need to rig an election? For who, Democrats? Democrats win by massive margins there. Harris had the worst showing by a Democrat there in decades and still won by a quarter-million votes That would be like North Dakota rigging elections for Republicans; it makes zero sense. If anyone is trying to rig an election, wouldn't it be the underdog party, in a state where they need the help and also actually have a chance of winning?

And how are they getting the massive, organized fraud past all the Republicans on their bipartisan election commission?

There are always abnormalities in elections. Always have been. Always will be. The scale is what matters, and they're never, ever close to being the scale necessary to tip elections.

Here's the context that y'all never try to find:

6,600 registered erroneously in NJ. Fewer than 400 of those people actually voted.

Do you know how many voters are registered in New Jersey? Nearly 6.7MM. 4.3MM of those voted in the last election.

Do the math. That's .009%. Nine one-thousandths of one percent of the votes cast in that state.

Harris won New Jersey by 250,000 votes and you're talking about 400 votes, and you don't even know who they voted for.

So yeah, that math doesn't math and it never does, but it doesn't stop y'all from gulping down Trump's firehose of election fraud lies.




It's NJ. If they said 6,600 I bet we could add another 0 at the end and be closer to the real number.

Either way, something to think about.
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